Paragon females are not sexy barbie dolls!
Ysabeth Noirelune
This armor should suit your taste a little better, I think.
Shakkara
I really dont like that one.
Still uncovered belly and the fur is just ugly.
Still uncovered belly and the fur is just ugly.
Ysabeth Noirelune
I do agree with you, it's ugly. However, it's quite probably all we'll got in terms of coverage. I mean, look at this one. Makes me want to sing "Roxanne".
upier
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Originally Posted by Tijger
Oh I see.
So, what do you define as modest then? Wide fitting garment from head to toe which doesnt show any exposed skin? |
IF the player chooses to dress up in that - since we are talking about a GAME and NOT real life - fine with me.
Variety FTW!
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Originally Posted by acidic
the female players should be flattered that the dev cared so much to make those special sexy armors
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Yep girls - you should be flattered that you can look like the cheapest RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs in the game and that you don't need to worry about your big fat real life asses so that you can finally get a man and start throwing out kiddies!
(rolleyes emote anyone?)
So I once again fully support the option for various armours.
The game is offering a serious amount of customization - and looks are very important in terms of the whole RGP-immersion.
Options, options, options = good, good, good!
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Originally Posted by Shakkara
I really dont like that one.
Still uncovered belly and the fur is just ugly. |
If the thing you want most is a full body suit - then style comes second.
Sleeper Service
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Originally Posted by Aera
Okay, I'll try to put this the right way:
No-one really cares, pay attention to the game not to the armour. Or stop complaining here and play another character or make a male paragon. Problem solved, less of GWGuru's bandwidth wasted. |
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0187417&page=1
please, continue thinking you can read minds and tell people what to do. its funny.
Kashrlyyk
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Originally Posted by upier
Why not?
IF the player chooses to dress up in that - since we are talking about a GAME and NOT real life - fine with me. Variety FTW! That one is sweet! Yep girls - you should be flattered that you can look like the cheapest RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs in the game and that you don't need to worry about your big fat real life asses so that you can finally get a man and start throwing out kiddies! (rolleyes emote anyone?) So I once again fully support the option for various armours. The game is offering a serious amount of customization - and looks are very important in terms of the whole RGP-immersion. Options, options, options = good, good, good! |
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Originally Posted by upier
Now this might be a bit of a problem.
If the thing you want most is a full body suit - then style comes second. |
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Originally Posted by Tijger
Oh I see.
So, what do you define as modest then? Wide fitting garment from head to toe which doesnt show any exposed skin? |
Obey The Cat
a paragon male looks like a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing super gay.
females in reality are more sexy than males too. why not in a fantasy game too.
GREAT! <3
females in reality are more sexy than males too. why not in a fantasy game too.
GREAT! <3
Shakkara
I said it on the first post grrr, why ask again, tijger?
* Belly
* Area between and above the boobs, no clevage dammit!
* Neck
* Arms from elbow to wrist
* Feet and legs upto the knee
* Waist to knee
* Preferably shoulders and upper arms
* Belly
* Area between and above the boobs, no clevage dammit!
* Neck
* Arms from elbow to wrist
* Feet and legs upto the knee
* Waist to knee
* Preferably shoulders and upper arms
Kas
This topic is ridiculous.
I guess you're the folks that tell me in real-life to go and dress in something proper. Here is the shocking news: It's 2007, no longer 1200. I'm really sorry for you but times have changed.
What is the problem about revealing armor or clothes? Is it morales? Once again, wake up and enjoy the new Millenium. Is it for realism? Yeah, tell me about realism, but please wait until after i've had my sit in with that dragon over there and poked him with my flame spitting sword. Oppression from males? No really?
The whole reason we can finally wear something revealing is because the oppression is dwindling. It's not the evil drooling man that tells us to wear sexy dresses, we do wear them because we CAN. A funny thing is that I see mostly MEN complain about women showing too much (in Real-life too). Is it because you then can plainly see you're losing your control over the other gender? Oops.
So what else is there really? Any argument left that isn't based on morales from the middle-ages or something similiar silly?
I guess you're the folks that tell me in real-life to go and dress in something proper. Here is the shocking news: It's 2007, no longer 1200. I'm really sorry for you but times have changed.
What is the problem about revealing armor or clothes? Is it morales? Once again, wake up and enjoy the new Millenium. Is it for realism? Yeah, tell me about realism, but please wait until after i've had my sit in with that dragon over there and poked him with my flame spitting sword. Oppression from males? No really?
The whole reason we can finally wear something revealing is because the oppression is dwindling. It's not the evil drooling man that tells us to wear sexy dresses, we do wear them because we CAN. A funny thing is that I see mostly MEN complain about women showing too much (in Real-life too). Is it because you then can plainly see you're losing your control over the other gender? Oops.
So what else is there really? Any argument left that isn't based on morales from the middle-ages or something similiar silly?
Xanthar
Let me begin by saying that I fully appreciate your wish for more coverage from the paragon armour - Choice is a beautiful thing.
Indeed, this is completely true. However...
(more examples)
http://imagesource5d.allposters.com/...7-FT3BD00Z.jpg
http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/Steril...es/hoplite.jpg
...practical does not always indicate that is "decent" by todays standards
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The Greeks actually wore metal or leather breastplates during those times. [SNIP] So the Greek actually DID wear practical armor.
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(more examples)
http://imagesource5d.allposters.com/...7-FT3BD00Z.jpg
http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/Steril...es/hoplite.jpg
...practical does not always indicate that is "decent" by todays standards
Alex Silverfox
you can ask for nuns in Gw2... this class may fit you. I hope they dont implement any sexy guepierre! :P
arcanemacabre
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Originally Posted by Xanthar
Pics
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(male and female, to be fair)
Shakkara
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Originally Posted by Kas
This topic is ridiculous.
I guess you're the folks that tell me in real-life to go and dress in something proper. Here is the shocking news: It's 2007, no longer 1200. I'm really sorry for you but times have changed. What is the problem about revealing armor or clothes? Is it morales? Once again, wake up and enjoy the new Millenium. Is it for realism? Yeah, tell me about realism, but please wait until after i've had my sit in with that dragon over there and poked him with my flame spitting sword. Oppression from males? No really? The whole reason we can finally wear something revealing is because the oppression is dwindling. It's not the evil drooling man that tells us to wear sexy dresses, we do wear them because we CAN. A funny thing is that I see mostly MEN complain about women showing too much (in Real-life too). Is it because you then can plainly see you're losing your control over the other gender? Oops. So what else is there really? Any argument left that isn't based on morales from the middle-ages or something similiar silly? |
Kas
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Originally Posted by Shakkara
it offends me
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ZenRgy
1) It's a game.
2) It's the internet.
Why do you take it so seriously?
2) It's the internet.
Why do you take it so seriously?
Diddy bow
Male paras need somthing other than skirts too
Tijger
Good lord, has GW been invaded by fundamentalists or something?
WTF is wrong with people?
No, really, its nothing to do with age, I'm 43 and I have no issues with bare bellies and cleavage in bloody fantasy game which is rated at 13+
WTF is wrong with people?
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Originally Posted by Kas
Yep. Definitely a case of middle age morales.
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netniwk
paragon=mostly in Elona
Elona=hot
hot=Clothes that cool off=revealing
TADAAA.
Elona=hot
hot=Clothes that cool off=revealing
TADAAA.
Tijger
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Originally Posted by Shakkara
No, the problem is CHOICE. If you want to wear this stuff, fine, no problem. I don't care what you want to wear. You can do that, you can even go to a nudist camp, I don't care. I DONT want to wear this stuff, it doesn't fit me, it offends me, but I can't wear anything else. Then it becomes a problem, right?
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Shadis
If you want to get technical, they actually are sexy barbie dolls in digital form.
c0c0c0
Those of you with the "get over it" attitude need to pull your elbows in and learn to make room for people with different definitions of fun. The availability of more modest armor would take nothing away from those of you who list strip naked and dance in AC Dist 1, while allowing others to play characters they don't find embarrassing.
I can definitely sympathize. I simply can not play a male paragon for similar reasons: the face and armor choices make them look like ... well, lets just say it's not the way men where I'm from like to look. I don't think it would hurt too much add some more "functional" armor choices to the fantasy armors already available.
/signed
I can definitely sympathize. I simply can not play a male paragon for similar reasons: the face and armor choices make them look like ... well, lets just say it's not the way men where I'm from like to look. I don't think it would hurt too much add some more "functional" armor choices to the fantasy armors already available.
/signed
upier
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Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk
I said, there is no armor covering the complete belly! Which means an armor similar to what we have now, but covering the belly would be completly enough, like they did for the male paragon.
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There might be an armour that will cover up everything - BUT it might be considered ugly. That was my problem - if the player wants a full body suit while ALL other armour options are just stretched bikinis - then style might be out of the question IF the body suit happens. Just because it would be the ONLY option.
Just so that we don't get: "Okily, THIS covers up everything BUT is beyond ugly so I refuse to buy it! ARGGGGHH!! There still is nothing good to wear!"
That was the part I had a problem with - the covering up the belly IS variety so it's most definitely fine by me.
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Originally Posted by netniwk
paragon=mostly in Elona
Elona=hot hot=Clothes that cool off=revealing TADAAA. |
You don't see the nomad tribes in the desert trying to get a tan by going around almost topless. People there wear some heavy stuff to protect from the sun.
Shakkara
And the 'ugly' argument came second, the argument which came first was that it STILL didnt cover the belly. And not the area above the breasts either by the way.
Like I said, I rather wear a burka then any of the stuff currently around. Cover first, style second.
Like I said, I rather wear a burka then any of the stuff currently around. Cover first, style second.
netniwk
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Originally Posted by upier
And no. You don't see the nomad tribes in the desert trying to get a tan by going around almost topless. People there wear some heavy stuff to protect from the sun. |
Destro Maniak
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Originally Posted by Shakkara
I'm seriously considering to delete my female paragon and start over as male. The female armor is just atrocious. If those swimsuits can be called armor at all. I can understand that some people prefer to have sexy armor on females, but unlike warriors, there simply isn't a choice to wear anything modest at all for paragons. That's what I'm asking for, a choice to put on something modest. Kormir is wearing full armor, why can't I?
I love the male vabbi armor, nice heavy breastplate and ornaments. But once put on a female, the beautiful platemail suddenly turns into a horribly ugly and humilitating bra, even female elemental armor is more covering then this... thing. Being a female in real life, I find these armors detestable and insulting. It's supposed to be platemail, and leaves all the important parts uncovered. There is no armor at all that covers the entire torso, NONE! Most don't even come half way. The only one slightly acceptable in my book is Obsidian Armor as it manages to cover quite a bit, but I don't feel like ebaying some gold to be able to afford that huge price tag. So can I please have a female paragon armor that covers: * Belly * Area between and above the boobs, no clevage dammit! * Neck * Arms from elbow to wrist * Feet and legs upto the knee * Waist to knee * Preferably shoulders and upper arms With cover, I mean cover with solid platemail, not the semi-transparant white cloth stuff that surely looks 'great' when wet. Or simply has an undersuit, like the grey suit seen at the knees and waist of the female templar armor. For comparison: Warrior female sunspear, krytan, tyrian, shing jea, ancient, canthan, kurzick armor is GOOD Warrior female luxon, vabbian, ascalon, charr hide, gladiator, platemail, templar/elite templar is BAD Thank you. |
Shakkara
I dont like them either but females are worse.
netniwk
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Originally Posted by Shakkara
I dont like them either but females are worse.
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Vermilion
I'm going to reply directly to the title and say:
Yes, yes they are.
Yes, yes they are.
Kakumei
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Originally Posted by Shakkara
Warrior female sunspear, krytan, tyrian, shing jea, ancient, canthan, kurzick armor is GOOD
Warrior female luxon, vabbian, ascalon, charr hide, gladiator, platemail, templar/elite templar is BAD Thank you. |
Winterclaw
Two points
1. There should be modest, skimpy, and naughty armors for every class.
2. @ the OP: why didn't you just wiki the classes and armors to begin with? Paragons have that greek/roman thing going on so they aren't going to be as armored. BTW, full plate didn't come about until the end of the era of knights in europe so if you ask me, any class having full plate seems a little unrealistic, especially if there isn't a gun toting class in GW2.
1. There should be modest, skimpy, and naughty armors for every class.
2. @ the OP: why didn't you just wiki the classes and armors to begin with? Paragons have that greek/roman thing going on so they aren't going to be as armored. BTW, full plate didn't come about until the end of the era of knights in europe so if you ask me, any class having full plate seems a little unrealistic, especially if there isn't a gun toting class in GW2.
Artisan Archer
If you want too look modest, be a dervish, you can wear a carpet and look like a table when you sit.
No seriously, what's with the belly thing? I mean most of the time you're looking at the back of your character. So unless you find bare lowerback offensing (??) what's the problem?
ANet has plenty of variety and people still complaining they don't have armor that has this or that, are a bunch of ........ fill in the blanks.
No seriously, what's with the belly thing? I mean most of the time you're looking at the back of your character. So unless you find bare lowerback offensing (??) what's the problem?
ANet has plenty of variety and people still complaining they don't have armor that has this or that, are a bunch of ........ fill in the blanks.
free_fall
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paragon=mostly in Elona
Elona=hot hot=Clothes that cool off=revealing TADAAA. |
- back OT -
I agree that players should have the option of more modest attire.
We've all witnessed male warriors running up to female toons and doing their little hump dance. Some female players find this unwanted attention objectionable and the devs would certainly be doing these players a favor by making less revealing outfits available to them.
Other profs have armor sets ranging from pasties/g-strings to sackcloth (well, except dervs - they're pretty much stuck with sackcloth), why shouldn't paras?
/signed
netniwk
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Originally Posted by free_fall
So, um, where do dervishes (the other NF prof) fit into that equation?
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Kakumei
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We've all witnessed male warriors running up to female toons and doing their little hump dance.
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ValaOfTheFens
As a female GW player I can honestly say that female Paragon armor doesn't bother me. I love the way my Paragon looks. She has this short bob haircut, she's the tallest I could make her, and her armor shows off her slender yet shapely figure. Why should she hide her body? Most people don't care about how revealing their toons armor is and so ANet isn't likely to make more modest armor. If you don't like it make a female W/Mo. They're as covered up as it gets! Honestly...I'd expect people to complain more about female Elementalist armor. They walk around in lingerie for Dwayna's sake. *shrug* I guess halter tops and mini shirts are worse.
Why should she hide her body? Most people don't care about how revealing their toons armor is and so ANet isn't likely to make more modest armor. If you don't like it make a female W/Mo. They're as covered up as it gets! Honestly...I'd expect people to complain more about female Elementalist armor. They walk around in lingerie for Dwayna's sake. *shrug* I guess halter tops and mini shirts are worse.
spellsword
The OP's complains are valid, even though I don't see revealing armor as a problem myself. Some of you people are really inconsiderate. She is just expressing her wish for more plain armor, she isn't saying that everyone should have to cover themselves, or wear said armor.
As it stands, paragon armor is one of the most unimaginative armors avaliable, they all look more or less the same. More variety wouldn't hurt things imho.
As it stands, paragon armor is one of the most unimaginative armors avaliable, they all look more or less the same. More variety wouldn't hurt things imho.
Onarik Amrak
How the hell are you going to be flexible enough to throw spears if you're covered head to toe with heavy plates?
Look at real life, spear throwers are generally skirmishers wearing light armor, not heavy plates and chain.
Look at real life, spear throwers are generally skirmishers wearing light armor, not heavy plates and chain.
Onarik Amrak
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As a female GW player I can honestly say that female Paragon armor doesn't bother me. I love the way my Paragon looks. She has this short bob haircut, she's the tallest I could make her, and her armor shows off her slender yet shapely figure.
Why should she hide her body? Most people don't care about how revealing their toons armor is and so ANet isn't likely to make more modest armor. If you don't like it make a female W/Mo. They're as covered up as it gets! Honestly...I'd expect people to complain more about female Elementalist armor. They walk around in lingerie for Dwayna's sake. *shrug* I guess halter tops and mini shirts are worse. |
NinjaKai
Most female clothing in GW is anything but modest.
creelie
First of all, to the posters bashing the OP for being a prude: tolerance of diversity begins at home. Also, oppression is about being made to do what you don't want to do; being forced into pantyhose and heels is just as oppressive as being forced into a burka.
Second, this is an RPG. Some players really get into the development of their characters, to the point of thinking about armor design in practical terms. I can sympathize; I worked hard to get my assassin into Kurzick 1.5k armor because I thought it was ludicrous for a dagger user to leave her abdomen and thighs exposed. How exactly does such behaviour harm any other player?
Third, paragons do suffer from a serious lack of variety in their clothing options. Every single female armour consists of a croptop and miniskirt, without exception. To me this boring uniformity smacks not of sexist objectification but of neglect. Why waste a design team's time on a class that has been all but disowned?
Second, this is an RPG. Some players really get into the development of their characters, to the point of thinking about armor design in practical terms. I can sympathize; I worked hard to get my assassin into Kurzick 1.5k armor because I thought it was ludicrous for a dagger user to leave her abdomen and thighs exposed. How exactly does such behaviour harm any other player?
Third, paragons do suffer from a serious lack of variety in their clothing options. Every single female armour consists of a croptop and miniskirt, without exception. To me this boring uniformity smacks not of sexist objectification but of neglect. Why waste a design team's time on a class that has been all but disowned?