Petition: Helms for our Paras!

ahem.

ahem.

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quebec, Canada

R/

/signed

A helm would fit much more this class than a floatig rock

Patrick Smit

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

NiTe

if at least the rock was installed on a nice crown it would be ok, but the suggested para helms look good.

/signed therefore

wetsparks

wetsparks

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

I expected to see a helmet on them that looked like in those pictures, and though the gem on the forehead was incredibly stupid. The only class where I have the head gear hidden so definitely...
/signed

haggus71

haggus71

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

FotS

the North Africa argument blows. If you are using that, it would be Zulu themed, for the short broad headed Sunburst spear. The only Bronze-age North African warriors were Phoenicians(Carthage) and Egyptians, who wore similar armor, with helmets. If you want to use that sub-Saharan argument, however, why aren't they wearing loincloths? The Zulu even fought the British in those.

The armor is Mediterranean in design, very much stylized after the Spartan/Corinthian style mentioned before. The helm makes much more sense.

As to the Angel argument....the only portrayal I've seen of Angels is naked or in flowing robes. A few of the archangel Michael were similar to the paragon......but with a HELM.

And Anet? Big, poofie, tied-back dreadlocks aren't a helm.

FenrirOfSleipnir

FenrirOfSleipnir

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Netherlands

Exclusive Club

W/

/signed

I want a helm for them Paragons right NOW >=O
(even though I deleted my paragon in fear of that ugly rocky thing that should have been a helm)

HKSdivision

HKSdivision

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

/signed. Paragons would definitely look a lot better with some sort of Corinthian helm.

KlutzySpy

KlutzySpy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Denmark

Venatus Una

N/Rt

yeah they should have roman helmets
/signed

Paul Mahdi

Paul Mahdi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Fort Worth, Texas

[HS]

N/Me

/signed. I could live without it but it would be cool

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

N/

/SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED and /SIGNED.... I already have Paragon FoW armor and yes I got the crest too... even though i hate it. I would spend the 150k to rebuy the centurion helmet. Perhaps don't give all armors new helms (as it would be time consuming to model them and frankly they would all end up looking extremely similar... BUT PLEASE MAKE IT FOR FOW ARMOR AT THE VERY LEAST ANET!

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

N/

Also while we are on it... How do 6-8 floating glowing stones giving me 80 base armor.... also how the hell are the crests that give Paragons 80 armor only giving Elementalists 60 armor... I can tank as well as a warrior or a dervish... give me a helmet.

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

N/

Anet... please read this entire thread and take it to heart.

wajir0

wajir0

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

miami

Illustrious Knights

Mo/

best idea since HM/NM


yes please anet read this... some helms for paragons..

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

Oh, these helmets are very nice for the assassins. With these helmets, they can attack and sweep the floor at the same time. It's amazing!

Surena

Surena

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by haggus71
the North Africa argument blows. If you are using that, it would be Zulu themed, for the short broad headed Sunburst spear. The only Bronze-age North African warriors were Phoenicians(Carthage) and Egyptians, who wore similar armor, with helmets. If you want to use that sub-Saharan argument, however, why aren't they wearing loincloths? The Zulu even fought the British in those.
Zulu? Sub-Saharan Argument? Are you on drugs? What does this have to do with North Africa? Carthaginians had medit. weaponry/designs anyway, not to forget famous greek commanders.

Quote:
The armor is Mediterranean in design, very much stylized after the Spartan/Corinthian style mentioned before. The helm makes much more sense.
No, Paragons resemble more skirmishers than Hoplites/Phalangites, that's why a Corinthian Helmet seems retarded while a pilos seems more appropriate (while it outclassed the Corinthian helmet by miles anyway - thus marking its decline).

Elisa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

Crystal Gladiators

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Surena
Zulu? Sub-Saharan Argument? Are you on drugs? What does this have to do with North Africa? Carthaginians had medit. weaponry/designs anyway, not to forget famous greek commanders.



No, Paragons resemble more skirmishers than Hoplites/Phalangites, that's why a Corinthian Helmet seems retarded while a pilos seems more appropriate (while it outclassed the Corinthian helmet by miles anyway - thus marking its decline).
The thing is, we are talking about looks here. Bringing up the "how-it-would-work-in-real-life" point is entirely moot, as I'm pretty confident sticking three stones to my forehead in real life won't increase my fiery aptitude in any way. The Paragons just seem cut out to wearing a Corinthian helmet, as most people in this thread seem to agree with.

Yes, I get your point entirely. They would, in real life, be much better suited to wearing helmets similar to Roman Velites, but then the rest of your argument doesn't stand either, because javelin throwers were never as heavily armoured as our Paragons in-game are.

To keep in line with the rest of their armoured appearance, a Corinthian-style helmet would be awesome.

Mitchel

Mitchel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Almkerk, The Netherlands

P/W

/signed because some scrubby Sunspear Scout can have it and we can't.

Folken ~oOo~

Folken ~oOo~

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

France

DEBS

R/

/signed

"yay, showy Greek Spartian helmet !" (Cuz it would make us showy happy and have fun ... like with dragon masks)

Elisa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

Crystal Gladiators

W/Me

It'd make our Paragons look that much more awesome, and seeing as hardly anyone plays them, they need a small boost in their popularity.

NecroticChanter

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

Toronto

Real Eyes Realize Real Lies[Tree]

P/

/signed very nice idea

BUT...I'm 100 percent sure Anet will ignore this...

Woop Shotty

Woop Shotty

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ruthless Mafia [RM]

Mo/

Red gore engines galore YES! Oh.. I think it's fair to say we'd all really appreciate it if they took it seriously instead of putting in a couple ugly elite templar helm reskins.

/signed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitchel
/signed because some scrubby Sunspear Scout can have it and we can't.
You're jealous about that ugly helm?

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Surena
You 300 nerds, the Corinthian helmet is overrated and just looks "badass". It limited vision and hearing and it doesn't fit in the "North African" Theme anyway - not to forget that no skirmisher would wear such a thing at all.

Next thing we lack is thrustable spears and slow-motion PvP.
Uh huh. You're one of the people suing Microsoft, aren't you? Tell you what. We'll have you and someone else. You can choose this rock I found on the ground OR a cycling helmet. I'll get a hammer and smash it into your skull.

Next thing we lack is me doing the damage necessary to bring common sense back into the world.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

/signed

I want to see Roman Legionnaire-style Paragons wandering around Guild Wars...

So that I can outfit my Warrior to look like one of the Vandals and sack Rome.

In all seriousness, though, it is a really good idea.

Winter Lady

Winter Lady

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fused Source

Mo/Me

In terms of giving paragon a helmet, I hope it leaves the option out for those who choose to stick with the crest instead.

I personally don't like helmets unless it has wings on them (pretty ones with nice designs of course)... otherwise, gems are normally a girl's best friend

leoknight

leoknight

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

/Sign

Some of you were saying helms do not fit paragon armors then what about a bandana? a bandana does not fit for any armors, actually it doesn't even belong to the time of Guild Wars. Most stand-alone headgears do not fit with most armors anyway, so I don't see any reason paragon do not have helms due to that matter.

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

Bandana's are just for fun. I'm against giving Paragons helmets, hell, I'm against them existing, though if the helmet has wings then I think it would be cool.

leoknight

leoknight

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
Bandana's are just for fun. I'm against giving Paragons helmets, hell, I'm against them existing, though if the helmet has wings then I think it would be cool.
If what you said about bandanas are for fun is true then I don't think bandanas should have max armor to each profession at all instead armor rating should be set to 0 just like any festival hats. As for paragon's helm should look fairly nice for most armors.

the Puppeteer

the Puppeteer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007

meh - just wear a freezie hat or the jesters hat and say it's a roman helm

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by leoknight
If what you said about bandanas are for fun is true then I don't think bandanas should have max armor to each profession at all instead armor rating should be set to 0 just like any festival hats. As for paragon's helm should look fairly nice for most armors.
Festival hats are generally only supposed to be worn at a certain time of the year; e.g. Santa hats at Christmas. The PvE accessories, however, are not bound to any time of the year and so it seems more logical to give them an armour level, thus allowing you to use them in PvE/P. As for the helmets, I doubt ANet will be implementing such a trivial thing when most of their efforts are on GW2.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by the Puppeteer
meh - just wear a freezie hat or the jesters hat and say it's a roman helm





The pictures in the OP are interesting. Not sure if I'm 100% sold on the poncy feathery bits though. I still like the Crests Paragons wear, but "/signed" because variety in playing the game is always good.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
Festival hats are generally only supposed to be worn at a certain time of the year; e.g. Santa hats at Christmas.
What about the Demon hat? Personally I feel it should act as "Camouflage" in the Realm of Torment

XiaoTheBlade

XiaoTheBlade

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Southern England

Reign Of Shadows

P/W

I wear a crown on my para, would love a helmet <3

Mitchel

Mitchel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Almkerk, The Netherlands

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Woop Shotty

You're jealous about that ugly helm?
Helm > No Helm



Edited by Celestial Beaver: Sardelac Sanitarium tolerates bumping older threads, or "thread necros", as you put it, since starting a new thread in order to discuss an already established topic is against the guidelines.

Shadow Spirit

Shadow Spirit

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Chicago

your cat eats dog food [pup]

N/E

/signed

Would love to have the option of a Helm.

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

/Signed if female para's get a tiara

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

Can't believe I didn't sign this when it was first made.

/Signed x100

Gregslot

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Surena
Zulu? Sub-Saharan Argument? Are you on drugs? What does this have to do with North Africa? Carthaginians had medit. weaponry/designs anyway, not to forget famous greek commanders.



No, Paragons resemble more skirmishers than Hoplites/Phalangites, that's why a Corinthian Helmet seems retarded while a pilos seems more appropriate (while it outclassed the Corinthian helmet by miles anyway - thus marking its decline).
You are just forgetting one thing... this is a game, not real life.
Inside the game story, the Sunspears use helms, thats a fact.
But i wouldnt use a full-helm with someone who is shouting and singing at the battle, it might block the sound-wave? So i see no point of using it with a character that is BASED on it.
But also, i find stupid to wear a little gem to protect my head if i am going to the middle of the battle and see arrows and enemies pass by me.

At the end... i really dont care, i play as a mesmer anyways =]

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Really looks like people just want to run around crying "THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!1!11!!!"

/signed

wu is me

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

this is madness!
this is sparta!

lol seeing another bunch of half nude male strippers wearing nothing but capes, hot pants, and centurion helms?

/Signed!

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

I lol'd hard core at the pics and imagining them on a paragon.

It would make me laugh every time i saw a paragon with a big ass feathered helmet

/signed

DoubleHHelix

DoubleHHelix

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

OR, USA

Digital Tactics / [DT]

R/

/Signed

I want a pirate hat to go on my ranger, hell maybe even a hook too! Let us turn Guild Wars in to Maple Story!

leoknight

leoknight

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Yeah, we saw Sunspear NPCs wearing helms so Sunspear armor for paragon should have helm as well as it should goes the same for the Monument armor.