Petition: Helms for our Paras!

Garadaz

Garadaz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

*Portugal*

N/

/signed , sick of that little elementalist gem

Bowstring Badass

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkobra
Uh huh. You're one of the people suing Microsoft, aren't you? Tell you what. We'll have you and someone else. You can choose this rock I found on the ground OR a cycling helmet. I'll get a hammer and smash it into your skull.

Next thing we lack is me doing the damage necessary to bring common sense back into the world.

Just ignore him he is an idiot.

/signed. Paras need helms....

Steboy93

Steboy93

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Feb 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] | Ex-Officer [TAM]

W/

/signed

would be a great addition

Dronte

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

/signed
I would make a paragon

Qual

Qual

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark, Karup.

[PuG]

W/E

/signed.... A-net is so sloppy, give my paragon a helm...

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Why does everyone want to look like a 300 character? The last thing the game needs is more people shouting "THIS IS SPARTA!" before every single mission or PvP battle. That stopped being tolerable after the trailer had been out a week, and it only got worse when the movie actually was released. We don't need those days revived. 300 had a worse effect on the GW community than when Superbad came out and everyone had a character with some disambiguation of "Mclovin" or everyone that has a name that resembles "Crank Soulja Boi"

Basically, the community needs more maturity or less 13 year olds to be able to handle the maturity level it takes to handle these Paragon helmets.

Turtle222

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

:D:D

D/W

/Signed!

this is the first thing that came into my head when i got NF....i was like: "duuuuuude where's the greek style helmet?! I think more and more people would buy Istani Armour that came with a kick ass greek helmet.

R.Shayne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

/Signed

Should have been done from the start.

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

If this happened the first thing I'd do is make a paragon named.

Odisous Maximus. Just to feel greek.

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

Sure, but I'd set it to always hide. And wasn't a similar thread like this already made and closed down?

Ama Seraphim

Ama Seraphim

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

War Torn [Torn] - Guild Leader

D/R

/signed... get rid of the floating eye

MrGuildBoi

MrGuildBoi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

A/

yes please /signed, we can be more like 300 now! :P

spyke136

spyke136

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

W/

i want this on my para:



edit ---- or this lol

Ama Seraphim

Ama Seraphim

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

War Torn [Torn] - Guild Leader

D/R

that would actually go well with a few of the para armor sets

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

nice finds spyke

Dronte

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
Why does everyone want to look like a 300 character? The last thing the game needs is more people shouting "THIS IS SPARTA!" before every single mission or PvP battle. That stopped being tolerable after the trailer had been out a week, and it only got worse when the movie actually was released. We don't need those days revived. 300 had a worse effect on the GW community than when Superbad came out and everyone had a character with some disambiguation of "Mclovin" or everyone that has a name that resembles "Crank Soulja Boi"

Basically, the community needs more maturity or less 13 year olds to be able to handle the maturity level it takes to handle these Paragon helmets.
Oh, I got it. You dont like 300.

So how does a floating eye fit into a spearman's 80 armor?

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dronte
Oh, I got it. You dont like 300.

So how does a floating eye fit into a spearman's 80 armor?
Ya thats what i wanna know...especially since:

and


have helmets... -.-

Hobbs

Hobbs

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Organised Spam [OS]

W/

/signed

I've been on the verge of making a para for quite some time and this addition would definately tip the scale and make me make one.

Crimso

Crimso

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

PCformatforums[PCFF]

Me/Mo

/Signed

I've about had enough of my paragon with a piece rock tacked to his head for protection. A helmet would be much better.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dronte
Oh, I got it. You dont like 300.

So how does a floating eye fit into a spearman's 80 armor?
WARNING! OFF TOPIC CONTENT:
It's not that I didn't "like" 300. It was a decent movie. It was definitely no Citizen Kane, and it was certainly not Movie of the Year material. Transformers, American Gangster, and Die Hard IV were much better films, imo.

But the one thing that really irked me about 300, was the age 15 following it had that ran around the mall shouting THIS IS SPARTA! and throwing a stick around or something. It was incredibly over-hyped beyond reason. The whole movie was basically CG, except the dialogue, neither of which were that great. Basically, everything 300 did, many other movies did better. The only thing it did great was realistic decapitations.

Oh, and about the whole gem thing, don't expect sense out of video games. Play Resident Evil 2 or Killer 7, and tell me if that makes a lick of sense.

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
Oh, and about the whole gem thing, don't expect sense out of video games. Play Resident Evil 2 or Killer 7, and tell me if that makes a lick of sense.
Of course, i find medicinal herbs and ammunition lying around all the time.

Still, what makes you so against an extra headpiece for a profession. If you dont like the helmet option you could always stick with using a crest. This suggestion being implemented would in no way change any of your characters and the looks of other peoples characters is their choice not yours.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa
Still, what makes you so against an extra headpiece for a profession. If you dont like the helmet option you could always stick with using a crest. This suggestion being implemented would in no way change any of your characters and the looks of other peoples characters is their choice not yours.
Because I don't want to deal with 15 year olds running around thinking they're Leonidas shouting THIS IS SPARTA! or TONITE WE DINE IN HELL! before every pvp match or pve mission

and i know this will only increase the amount of people doing it.

Dronte

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
WARNING! OFF TOPIC CONTENT:
It's not that I didn't "like" 300. It was a decent movie. It was definitely no Citizen Kane, and it was certainly not Movie of the Year material. Transformers, American Gangster, and Die Hard IV were much better films, imo.

But the one thing that really irked me about 300, was the age 15 following it had that ran around the mall shouting THIS IS SPARTA! and throwing a stick around or something. It was incredibly over-hyped beyond reason. The whole movie was basically CG, except the dialogue, neither of which were that great. Basically, everything 300 did, many other movies did better. The only thing it did great was realistic decapitations.

Oh, and about the whole gem thing, don't expect sense out of video games. Play Resident Evil 2 or Killer 7, and tell me if that makes a lick of sense.
At least I felt good for that time (who cares that im not 15).

I cant find nice Paragons with leet helms in Resident Evil 2

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dronte
I cant find nice Paragons with leet helms in Resident Evil 2
I'm talking about how everyone thinks Guild Wars should make sense, and I'm saying, very few video games make sense.

I rarely find I can put something in a box, and then travel about a mile up the road, look in a similar box, and retrieve the item I put in the box a mile back the road

Woop Shotty

Woop Shotty

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ruthless Mafia [RM]

Mo/

Could you stop nagging about 300 and realize that this isn't about a movie or about children being childish? I can't stand the hearing teens act stupid either, but I don't go about it like you do. This kind of helm looks very cool, and it's not because of any movie.

If this was added to the game and children left and right made 300 references, so be it. If another hugely popular movie comes out with catchy lines, and it has something to do with the existing common armor, would you moan and groan again?

iriyabran

iriyabran

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

[Lord]

E/

/signed x100

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
Because I don't want to deal with 15 year olds running around thinking they're Leonidas shouting THIS IS SPARTA! or TONITE WE DINE IN HELL! before every pvp match or pve mission

and i know this will only increase the amount of people doing it.
Then don't play with them. Also in my experience the 15 year olds i have met in game have been more mature than a majority of the older players.

Wild Karrde

Wild Karrde

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

W/

/signed

Wouldnt mind seeing some helms for warriors like that, Woulda looke a million time better then the gay ass helm they added for the 15k Gladiator armor

{IceFire}

{IceFire}

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

I WANT PANTS AND HELMS

and this is for kanyatta

THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAA


/signed

Woop Shotty

Woop Shotty

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ruthless Mafia [RM]

Mo/

Joshthor

Joshthor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

Eternal Knights Alliance [RotK]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Woop Shotty
yes that is a paragon good job *clap clap clap* you can go get a sticker now!

anyway yeah, helmets would be awesome

Woop Shotty

Woop Shotty

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ruthless Mafia [RM]

Mo/

it's a happy paragon

Oblivious Moose

Oblivious Moose

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Sinister Swarm [Sin]

P/

complaints about people saying catch phrases is completely invalid.

you can easily set those people to your ignore list, or even more simple. turn off your chat dialog box.

complaints that its not realistic-- also invalid. it is a game, and doesn't need to make sense.

complaints that npc's can have things that players cannot -- valid, as of now in the relm of GW, there are only a few things that npc's have that the player cannot obtain. i.e. hero armour (upgraded), npc armor. all weapon skins can be obtained.

my opinion -- give paragons helmets!

people say they are sick of the lame crest, i agree!

others say they shouldnt do this, because it will alter their appearance of their personal character.(invalid, you can choose not to wear the new armor *GASP!!!*)

for me, in the relm of guild wars. having a floating crest should mainly be kept for the elementalists, as its only a lame reskin. the other casters actually have something that you can see, and not get annoyed by..

necromancers. -- scar patterns (deathlike appearance)
monks -- tattoos (religious)
mesmers -- facemask (drama outfits)
elementalists -- floating crest (floating element thingy?)
rangers -- mouth covering mask (nature-esk style)
assassins --mouth covering mask (face-hiding stealthlike)
ritualist -- headwrapping (religious with spirits)
dervish -- hood (religious cloths *again?*)
warriors -- helmets ( duh...?)
paragon -- floating crest (WTF!!)

for gw, all the headgears (linked) to their profession, actually fits the theme of that character.(see list above) with the exception of the paragon..

if anything the theme of a paragon can be argued with real life scenarios, or with the gw theme, to be angel-like... so maybe something with wings on it, kinda like the FoW armor..

if anyone wants to make the helmet themselves, and post it up as a mod, it will most likely have a better chnce for anet to impliment the design, like with the frustrated people and their broken monk armor, having their tattoo cut short with different armor sets. (which anet thankfully fixed)

that pretty much sums up everybody's arguement, and put it my own..

if it wasnt obvious enough.. /Signed.

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Woop Shotty
Nice concept, how ever I would've incorporated more white. Probably have fully white helmet with the green metallic trim on nose plate and frontal area, wing designs going along the sides at eye height.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oblivious Moose
complaints about people saying catch phrases is completely invalid.

you can easily set those people to your ignore list, or even more simple. turn off your chat dialog box.
Your ignore list can only take so much.... Maybe they should make that infinite? Then I could just ignore every player I see that says something ludicrous or half-assed in all chat, then my ignore list could be in the 60,000s.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oblivious Moose
complaints that its not realistic-- also invalid. it is a game, and doesn't need to make sense.
This is basically contradicting yourself. The entire reason this thread exists is that "the floating crest makes no sense"

And no one on the negative side of the issue ever said it was unrealistic (as far as i know)

Master Sword Keeper

Master Sword Keeper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dead Isle

Farmers Of Woe [FoW]

W/

Yea can I plz have a helm for my Paragon....I still understand why that little armour designer in Anet and she knows i'm talking about her.

Heh heh. I think she's kinda cute but her last armour designs have made me go hmmm and *sigh.

A pretty little helm for the female para and a sturdy beefed up helm for the males would give the paragon something to really grab a hold of.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
Because I don't want to deal with 15 year olds running around thinking they're Leonidas shouting THIS IS SPARTA! or TONITE WE DINE IN HELL! before every pvp match or pve mission

and i know this will only increase the amount of people doing it.
People do that already. It's not like adding a single helm is suddenly going to make everyone act like a total moron whenever they see a paragon.

Knight Othin Of War

Knight Othin Of War

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Spartan Warrior Elite

W/Mo

/Signed
i hate those floating stones aswell, they look stupid on them

as for the idiots spamming the 300 lines, it won't really change anything with them

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
This is basically contradicting yourself. The entire reason this thread exists is that "the floating crest makes no sense"

And no one on the negative side of the issue ever said it was unrealistic (as far as i know)
Its call consistency of design.

Forehead Gems have been....since Prophecies and Factions established as headgear for Elementalists. It continues to be headgear for elementalists in Nightfall and Eotn.

Paragons wearing a very similar gem takes away from the class' individuality and creates a poor design.

Female paragons ALREADY share a lot of the same basic animations as female Elementalists. The sharing of silhouettes blurrs the class identity.

Its poor character and armor design to have headgear that doesn't match the armor. This ALONE should be enough to demand a helmet.

Lets look at the 15k Gladiator Armor for warriors. It took forever to get a helmet for this set. It never had a matching helm. Now it does. I think its a bit ugly, but its more consistent and creates a better thematic set than any paragon armor ever has.

sterbenx2

sterbenx2

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

New England

Lunatic Legion

N/

wow, good argument, lots of examples, lots of good points. I love the para, I just don't have time to play one. I'd like to see em get head gear.

/signed