Sorry but I just had to make this thread!
For the reason why I'm making this go here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10189648
Right now if you wanna put a mini-pet, item, weapon etc... in the HoM it becomes CUSTOMIZED to that character!! Why ANet? Why would you?
I understand your doing this to keep people from giving items to others just to make the monument and then give it back to the original person.
Lets make HoM... Account Based!!!
/SIGNED
PETITION to change HoM monuments to Account Based!
AngeloM3
Onarik Amrak
WTF... That has got to be the stupidest decision.
So in theory you'd need multiples of the minipets you've already earned for your different characters. Great.
...wtb duping.
So in theory you'd need multiples of the minipets you've already earned for your different characters. Great.
...wtb duping.
Curse You
/signed
Me and my 10 PvE characters don't like the idea of it being character based. The customization just makes it seem pointless.
Me and my 10 PvE characters don't like the idea of it being character based. The customization just makes it seem pointless.
Onarik Amrak
To elaborate.
Factions CE came with ONE minipet. Kuunavang.
Nightfall CE came with ONE minipet. Varesh.
Your account can only obtain for you ONE Gray Giant and ONE Asura.
Why does Anet want us to have 1 for each character? WTF?
Factions CE came with ONE minipet. Kuunavang.
Nightfall CE came with ONE minipet. Varesh.
Your account can only obtain for you ONE Gray Giant and ONE Asura.
Why does Anet want us to have 1 for each character? WTF?
dargon
It's a Hall of Monuments. How monumental is it if the day EotN starts, everyone has a completed hall?
MithranArkanere
Ok, some things are to be character based, but not miniatures!
MercenaryKnight
Miniatures should be customized to your own account, so they can't be traded and used for others by passing them around. But don't make it on 1 char. Others like to move minis around and use them on all their chars.
Also I hope in guild wars 2 your able to put all the titles you want on to 1 character as "inheritance" Instead of making 1 char get 1 title (or however many you had on one char). You should get to put every title and use it all on one.
Also I hope in guild wars 2 your able to put all the titles you want on to 1 character as "inheritance" Instead of making 1 char get 1 title (or however many you had on one char). You should get to put every title and use it all on one.
dawnmist
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Ok, some things are to be character based, but not miniatures!
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http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...47&postcount=1
Rhys
It's not a very elegant solution to trading miniatures... surely, Anet could come up with something better.
jesusrunz
/signed
I approve.
I approve.
Curse You
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Originally Posted by dawnmist
No - Gaile Gray has actually confirmed that as things are at the moment, minis WILL be customised to the character that put them in the HoM, and are character-based.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...47&postcount=1 |
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Originally Posted by dargon
It's a Hall of Monuments. How monumental is it if the day EotN starts, everyone has a completed hall?
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MithranArkanere
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Originally Posted by dawnmist
No - Gaile Gray has actually confirmed that as things are at the moment, minis WILL be customised to the character that put them in the HoM, and are character-based.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...47&postcount=1 |
But most people use all ministures with all their characters.
It's completely ilogical and unfair to mkae them only usable with one of your characters.
Gucio
/signed
I was hoping that the Hall would only let me transfer the stuff from GW to GW2 without any restrictions... I was wrong. GG Anet.
I was hoping that the Hall would only let me transfer the stuff from GW to GW2 without any restrictions... I was wrong. GG Anet.
mazey vorstagg
/signed
Do I really need to explain
Do I really need to explain
Witchblade
/signed but especially about titles, minis are worthless they can be overcustomized or removed from game for all i care ^^
Darkobra
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Originally Posted by Gucio
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I was hoping that the Hall would only let me transfer the stuff from GW to GW2 without any restrictions... I was wrong. GG Anet. |
Porkchop Sandwhiches
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Originally Posted by Witchblade
/signed but especially about titles, minis are worthless they can be overcustomized or removed from game for all i care ^^
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I VERY MUCH HOPE that the hall of monuments is not nearly complete at all and over the next week they will tweak it a lot.
-malachi-
/sign
pets should be account based
armor should actually show the right proffession.
pets should be account based
armor should actually show the right proffession.
Kris
/signed
Havn't had the chance to try it personally yet, but from what I gather this thing is far too much char-based. Already we are too much char-based on titles, and this just adds to the frustration.
Havn't had the chance to try it personally yet, but from what I gather this thing is far too much char-based. Already we are too much char-based on titles, and this just adds to the frustration.
sheepush
/signed
I want all my chars to enjoy a full and rewarding HoM !
I want all my chars to enjoy a full and rewarding HoM !
Masterr
i agree, stop making GW a grinding game, also i wont get all titles in all my chars and all the armors for all my chars.
w00t!
/signed
First, I'm all for gold sinks in GW, but the mini-pet implementation in GW doesn't make sense. One reason; supply and demand.
I am all for making weapons, shields (yes shields!), and certain other items character-based, as the supply of those items aren't restricted. Since the supply of mini-pets is naturally restricted, making them character-based does not make economic sense. The price of mini-pets will naturally rise (restricted supply), so the only way to obtain them will be to grind or eBay gold. This is an unintended consequence, and goes completely against Anet's stated purpose of GW.
Making minis account-based makes perfect sense, and seems to be an oversight on Anet's part. I know that it will be more difficult to program, but the programmers who are capable of doing such wonders with GW are certainly capable of pulling this off.
First, I'm all for gold sinks in GW, but the mini-pet implementation in GW doesn't make sense. One reason; supply and demand.
I am all for making weapons, shields (yes shields!), and certain other items character-based, as the supply of those items aren't restricted. Since the supply of mini-pets is naturally restricted, making them character-based does not make economic sense. The price of mini-pets will naturally rise (restricted supply), so the only way to obtain them will be to grind or eBay gold. This is an unintended consequence, and goes completely against Anet's stated purpose of GW.
Making minis account-based makes perfect sense, and seems to be an oversight on Anet's part. I know that it will be more difficult to program, but the programmers who are capable of doing such wonders with GW are certainly capable of pulling this off.
Etta
how can you say no to this?
/signed x 1000
/signed x 1000
Mitchel
/signed for above reasons.
jkyarr
Mini-pets are not a compelling enough reason for me to agree to this petition.
Everything else is more or less character-based already. And please consider this from Gaile
The only concern of mine is actually Hero weapons. Will they become customized to the player character to whom the hero "belongs" if we put them in the HoM? Having to provide a full repetiore of weapons for each Hero is much more taxing than swapping weapons around between duplicate heroes with the same player account or even duplicate professions with a single character's hero set.
Everything else is more or less character-based already. And please consider this from Gaile
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0&postcount=12
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I'm confused. I think that some of you are suggesting that everything you acquire, on any character, should apply to all characters in Guild Wars 2. Is that right? If so, why? When I get most titles on my GW character, I get the title on... my GW character. Not all my chars; just one. So why would you expect that it would be merged, and that every char you make in the next game would benefit from what perhaps 6 or 8 or even more characters acquired in the current generation? Would you suggest that if a player has five chars, and each has explored 20% of Tyria, then every char in GW2 should have an explorer title, because after all, 20% x 5 = 100%? Please help me understand why some of you are making such dramatic, negative comments about this. I don't get to add up my bowling scores until I have a perfect 300. (Dang, that'd only take me 5 games if I could! ) But by the same token, I don't expect my Rangers, Necromancers, Elementalists, Warriors, etc., to be able to contribute to every profession I make in the future -- it just doesn't make sense! |
thunderai
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Originally Posted by jkyarr
Mini-pets are not a compelling enough reason for me to agree to this petition.
Everything else is more or less character-based already. And please consider this from Gaile The only concern of mine is actually Hero weapons. Will they become customized to the player character to whom the hero "belongs" if we put them in the HoM? Having to provide a full repetiore of weapons for each Hero is much more taxing than swapping weapons around between duplicate heroes with the same player account or even duplicate professions with a single character's hero set. |
Now none of this really matters if titles like cartographer wont be added to the HoM.
In all I think the HoM is a complete wast of programming time now. I thought it would be the best thing ever, it isn't. There are no PvE titles stored, The armor display is pathedic, and the rest is ok.
I agree with the limit on displaying heros, the problem being that the heros displayed have their initial armor on and not the armor which earned them the spot.
Good job anet...you stink.
Cowboy
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vergerefosh
/signed, Other wise my characters monuments will look so cool won't they? 1 set of armour, no weapons, 1 mini, possibly an animal companion and no titles.
Aethon
/signed
I never liked character-based grind in any form, but it just keeps popping up. I finished doing these things on one character, what makes them think that I wouldn't be able to do the same on every other character, given enough time? My time is worth more than this.
I never liked character-based grind in any form, but it just keeps popping up. I finished doing these things on one character, what makes them think that I wouldn't be able to do the same on every other character, given enough time? My time is worth more than this.
=HT=Ingram
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As to titles. I only care about titles that cross all Characters on the account... of which there are several... Sure fine some Titles may be character based, OK fine. no problem. but common. Minis? You know what that tells me honestly? HoM don't bother with it.. Its 100% a waste. Am I sorry I did it with 10 minis already. yea. I knew it was a mistake to do them all... At least I had the foresight to do it on my Primary character that I know I will never give up on. But lets face it, the other 11 characters on my account I could care less about... It does not lessen their achievements, but I just do not play the game to grind up a dozen characters to all be equal...
In GW2 we should take the 1 character from GW1 that has all you want to show off and there you go. but in GW1 the fundamentals that have been established already should not be forced to change just cause of an inconvenience in GW2 which is a long way off at this point and the current players just do not care till then.
I just want my minis to work on my account. I don't care where they are placed. If I could take them back off the HoM I would in 1 sec flat. it was the biggest mistake I ever did as far as I am concerned. And that's from a guy that mistakenly deleted a character with about a dozen ecto and 80,000 gold on it once a long time ago. Yea... Minis should have ALWAYS been customized to the Account. OR Always customized to the character... their functionality was equivalent to customized to account because all your accounts characters could use them from the beginning, so that should not change. You have to sacrifice storage for them across all characters anyway, So why not just make the monument for the 1 character fine, but the mini should be functionally the same as it was originally. But not allowed to be traded to another account.
As to titles. I only care about titles that cross all Characters on the account... of which there are several... Sure fine some Titles may be character based, OK fine. no problem. but common. Minis? You know what that tells me honestly? HoM don't bother with it.. Its 100% a waste. Am I sorry I did it with 10 minis already. yea. I knew it was a mistake to do them all... At least I had the foresight to do it on my Primary character that I know I will never give up on. But lets face it, the other 11 characters on my account I could care less about... It does not lessen their achievements, but I just do not play the game to grind up a dozen characters to all be equal...
In GW2 we should take the 1 character from GW1 that has all you want to show off and there you go. but in GW1 the fundamentals that have been established already should not be forced to change just cause of an inconvenience in GW2 which is a long way off at this point and the current players just do not care till then.
I just want my minis to work on my account. I don't care where they are placed. If I could take them back off the HoM I would in 1 sec flat. it was the biggest mistake I ever did as far as I am concerned. And that's from a guy that mistakenly deleted a character with about a dozen ecto and 80,000 gold on it once a long time ago. Yea... Minis should have ALWAYS been customized to the Account. OR Always customized to the character... their functionality was equivalent to customized to account because all your accounts characters could use them from the beginning, so that should not change. You have to sacrifice storage for them across all characters anyway, So why not just make the monument for the 1 character fine, but the mini should be functionally the same as it was originally. But not allowed to be traded to another account.
Farrell-Zander
/signed
I have 10 characters and getting titles for them all would be so boring....
I have 10 characters and getting titles for them all would be so boring....
Snow Bunny
Lame.
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Mangione
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Please, if you want to make minipets customized, make them account based, not character based.
Please, if you want to make minipets customized, make them account based, not character based.
razor39999
/signed
Completely agree with the author of the thread.
Completely agree with the author of the thread.
Solas
/signed not sure if i signed it already, im sleepy....
but yeah,
HoM should be account based overall imo.
armour: choose the 10 sets your'd like displayed in your HoM From any of your existing chars,and the model is of that of your char, ie if male char male model.
Minis: account based cusomised, same should be account based
Titles: Account based, it shows your maxed titles only on account wide
weapons: Account based pick the weapons that you have currently unlcoked( ie cusomised)
a rough idea,
maybe these itmes in HoM will affect your GW2 account and not char, ie as many cusomized special minis you want, same title,same special item if any.
but yeah,
HoM should be account based overall imo.
armour: choose the 10 sets your'd like displayed in your HoM From any of your existing chars,and the model is of that of your char, ie if male char male model.
Minis: account based cusomised, same should be account based
Titles: Account based, it shows your maxed titles only on account wide
weapons: Account based pick the weapons that you have currently unlcoked( ie cusomised)
a rough idea,
maybe these itmes in HoM will affect your GW2 account and not char, ie as many cusomized special minis you want, same title,same special item if any.
Cherrie
/signed
HoM was a good idea, but it's executed terribly, it's just so flawed in design. And I don't mean those temporary bugs.
Customizing Minis to character taht sets them in HoM? Biggest joke so far....
Showing only one character's achievements? I can do it in town in 5 mins, switching armors, heroes in party etc. Excuse me, but it sux.
...and so on.
/signed
HoM was a good idea, but it's executed terribly, it's just so flawed in design. And I don't mean those temporary bugs.
Customizing Minis to character taht sets them in HoM? Biggest joke so far....
Showing only one character's achievements? I can do it in town in 5 mins, switching armors, heroes in party etc. Excuse me, but it sux.
...and so on.
/signed
Eldin
/signed
Never will I accomplish a ridiculous amount of titles on one character. I'd rather have a collective.
Gaile, please please please read this:
Our decisions on what the HoM should be based on COMPLETELY OPERATE AND REVOLVE AROUND THIS CONCEPT:
In GW2, do you get to choose which character to inherit things from (I guess so)? If so, can that same GW1 character's things be inherited more than once, or is it like, one char can inherit my ranger's things, and then, that's it, case closed? And if THAT is the case, then if I delete said char, will I be able to inherit from my ranger again?
Never will I accomplish a ridiculous amount of titles on one character. I'd rather have a collective.
Gaile, please please please read this:
Our decisions on what the HoM should be based on COMPLETELY OPERATE AND REVOLVE AROUND THIS CONCEPT:
In GW2, do you get to choose which character to inherit things from (I guess so)? If so, can that same GW1 character's things be inherited more than once, or is it like, one char can inherit my ranger's things, and then, that's it, case closed? And if THAT is the case, then if I delete said char, will I be able to inherit from my ranger again?
kiloae
/signed
and change the armors to our actual sets
and change the armors to our actual sets
FelixTheBang
I totally agree with Gaile, I would never expect that achievements on 1 character should be 'transferable' to ALL my GW2 characters.
As for minis, I couldn't care less, I don't think they have a place in HoM, owning a rare mini isn't an achievement when it is quite likely you just got a lucky bithday pressie.
What REALLY annoys me is that the Title monument only seems to have spots for the major PvP titles! I have maxed many PvE titles since the HoM was announced and now it seems I can't even register my KoaBD title track in the HoM... That sucks
Why are stupid things like minis, that can be obtained through no effort (recieved as a gift) transferrable to GW2 when PvE titles that require a huge effort not?
As for minis, I couldn't care less, I don't think they have a place in HoM, owning a rare mini isn't an achievement when it is quite likely you just got a lucky bithday pressie.
What REALLY annoys me is that the Title monument only seems to have spots for the major PvP titles! I have maxed many PvE titles since the HoM was announced and now it seems I can't even register my KoaBD title track in the HoM... That sucks
Why are stupid things like minis, that can be obtained through no effort (recieved as a gift) transferrable to GW2 when PvE titles that require a huge effort not?
Mangione
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Originally Posted by FelixTheBang
What REALLY annoys me is that the Title monument only seems to have spots for the major PvP titles! I have maxed many PvE titles since the HoM was announced and now it seems I can't even register my KoaBD title track in the HoM... That sucks
Why are stupid things like minis, that can be obtained through no effort (recieved as a gift) transferrable to GW2 when PvE titles that require a huge effort not? |
What about vanquisher titles, legendary cartographer and the likes?