Hall of Monuments Thoughts
wonderwyrm
im actually pretty miffed about the heroes and titles monument, i dont pvp at all and i have a decent amount of pve titles
HostileKostal
/flamesuitOn
I like the idea of mini pets that my characters have received as 1st & 2nd Birthday gifts will be customized to that respective character.
I like the idea of mini pets that my characters have received as 1st & 2nd Birthday gifts will be customized to that respective character.
natuxatu
I said this before but if you are dissapointed by the HoM do not worry too much... it is mainly a connection between guild wars and guild wars 2... and it is very rare that a game would let you connect between the two so you could pretty much just act as though there is no connection.
Also, having maxed titles like that seems like a lot... but keep in mind you still have over a year to work on your hall.
Also, having maxed titles like that seems like a lot... but keep in mind you still have over a year to work on your hall.
wonderwyrm
i just displayed the statue for acolyte sousuke and it doesnt even display him with the upgraded armor
Anphobia
Yeah it sucks big time. I'm pretty annoyed at another blunder.
I was looking forward to displaying my necro's 15k luxon armor next to my rangers 15 kurzick
And on that note, MY ARMOR, not armor of the same "range"
Right now : Anet FTL.
I hope they change this, really.
I was looking forward to displaying my necro's 15k luxon armor next to my rangers 15 kurzick
And on that note, MY ARMOR, not armor of the same "range"
Right now : Anet FTL.
I hope they change this, really.
darted
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Originally Posted by =HT=Ingram
no no.. I was never expecting them to be tradable once in the HoM. But I did expect to be able to store them there and have access to them on my whole account... ATM I'm literally wasting 10 spots with minis... I never sell them nor do I give them out. I earned them over time with presents Keys and ect... as we all should..
I 100% agree once a Mini is in the HoM it should be locked into your ACCOUNT; and not tradable anymore.
BUT they should NOT take up storage space anymore either,
and Any character on that account should be able to have access to them in some way from there.
That is what we were all hoping for with that function in HoM. I can't say that what we were promised cause anet was always very fugue on that aspect of it... BUT lets just say it was Implied that it was how we would be able to use it. And what all the hype was about over it... I totally agree. However, the only things on an ACCOUNT lock right now are certain titles, skill unlocks and bonus items. Customization has always been by character and this may be a limitation that can't get around - Much as I don't like it either. I agree on locking them to the account, but character. Not so much.
I 100% agree once a Mini is in the HoM it should be locked into your ACCOUNT; and not tradable anymore.
BUT they should NOT take up storage space anymore either,
and Any character on that account should be able to have access to them in some way from there.
That is what we were all hoping for with that function in HoM. I can't say that what we were promised cause anet was always very fugue on that aspect of it... BUT lets just say it was Implied that it was how we would be able to use it. And what all the hype was about over it... I totally agree. However, the only things on an ACCOUNT lock right now are certain titles, skill unlocks and bonus items. Customization has always been by character and this may be a limitation that can't get around - Much as I don't like it either. I agree on locking them to the account, but character. Not so much.
darted
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Originally Posted by wonderwyrm
im actually pretty miffed about the heroes and titles monument, i dont pvp at all and i have a decent amount of pve titles
Again, not including PVE titles is VERY disappointing to me! I was hoping it would be more PVE not PVP title based. After all some of the PVP titles already get special emotes.
darted
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Originally Posted by zanntos
I'm dumbfounded at the people complaining about needing to upgrade thier heros and be max rank PvP for the HoM. The whole point of the thing is to remember the BIGGEST accomplishments. I'd feel a bit let down if i could immediately practically fill my hero monument upon reaching the Hall.
The miniature thing i agree needs some extra loving to bind to account, maybe flag as untradable after they're in the monument.
The Title Monument felt incomplete as it started with just the PvP titles. However the interviews and review indicated other accomplishments going in like completing a campaign. So perhaps additional titles need to be unlocked with the tapestry? Has anyone tried taking their Tapestry Shred from Pre-Sear to the HoM yet? No I discarded that during the original storage woes. Now.... New presearing character will bring one forward for my highest character .
The miniature thing i agree needs some extra loving to bind to account, maybe flag as untradable after they're in the monument.
The Title Monument felt incomplete as it started with just the PvP titles. However the interviews and review indicated other accomplishments going in like completing a campaign. So perhaps additional titles need to be unlocked with the tapestry? Has anyone tried taking their Tapestry Shred from Pre-Sear to the HoM yet? No I discarded that during the original storage woes. Now.... New presearing character will bring one forward for my highest character .
Winterclaw
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Originally Posted by vergerefosh
Quote: Originally Posted by SotiCoto
Face it guys... we're Beta-Testing GW:EN.
If we complain and moan enough about things being horribly wrong with it.... it is quite likely that A-Net will do something to change it. No guarantee that it will be fixed... but things will definitely change before GW:EN official release.... and even then there will be many changes immediately after the release.
I forsee changes to the Hall of Monuments in particular. That's what Anet should have been doing these past months.
If we complain and moan enough about things being horribly wrong with it.... it is quite likely that A-Net will do something to change it. No guarantee that it will be fixed... but things will definitely change before GW:EN official release.... and even then there will be many changes immediately after the release.
I forsee changes to the Hall of Monuments in particular. That's what Anet should have been doing these past months.
SetsunaSamurai
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Originally Posted by seut
anet: scrap it and go back to the drawing boards, the current HoM is complete nonsense and only shows that you lost touch with you playerbase..
QFT.
I think the most obvious example of this is the Resilience Monument. If I go into the Hall of Monuments with my Warrior, I want to see MY armor because it's a hall of MY Monuments. Ranger and Elementalist armor? What the hell... I got the Armor monument for a reason, I wanted to see my Warriors 15k armor displayed, not this trash.
I think the most obvious example of this is the Resilience Monument. If I go into the Hall of Monuments with my Warrior, I want to see MY armor because it's a hall of MY Monuments. Ranger and Elementalist armor? What the hell... I got the Armor monument for a reason, I wanted to see my Warriors 15k armor displayed, not this trash.
=HT=Ingram
Simple solution: Birthday Mini NPC similar to the Festive masks NPC in the HoM town area.
Reason. The generated minis would NOT be able to be put back into another characters HoM. But allow them to still use what they have been able to use all along.
I do understand only 1 character getting the rewards in GW2, I 100% understand that. but that is no reason to slap a player in the face for putting them all in one main account. Is it? Those minis should still be able to be used as normal on the account, they just can not be sold or traded any longer... Nor added to another characters HoM... Lets face it Even when GW2 goes live I highly doubt many people will want a fully equipped HoM for every character they have... I will prob only make 1 character to begin with and that character will have the works... Character 2 will be somewhat less in prestige. Thats the way it is now thats the way it will be then.
Please make our Mini pets usable across your account as it always has been in the past. If the HoM can not be used for storage, then at least give us that ability since we are forced to carry them around still. I have all mine in storage and I just click to display them from there when in towns... Now I still have them all in the same place but only 1 character can display them anymore. ;( Frustrating... It would have been 1 thing if these minis were like this from the beginning and only usable on THAT character that got it, but they were not. We can not just erase that from or memory. Right now at this point no one knows or cares what it gives you in GW2... If that means we only get the benefits on 1 character there. great. So let it be written, So let it be done. But what we are talking about right NOW is not something a year or more away in GW2, but something that will effect us right now, and in 2 weeks... The way things are in the HoM atm, I don't think most players will be interested in it at all... I know Anet staff is trying to think ahead. Way ahead... BUT... GW matters to us too?
We are very much like a dog being thrown a bone... If its a dried up old fossil, we will be happy with it for a sec or two, but upon realizing it has no flavor, it will be quickly discarded.
Reason. The generated minis would NOT be able to be put back into another characters HoM. But allow them to still use what they have been able to use all along.
I do understand only 1 character getting the rewards in GW2, I 100% understand that. but that is no reason to slap a player in the face for putting them all in one main account. Is it? Those minis should still be able to be used as normal on the account, they just can not be sold or traded any longer... Nor added to another characters HoM... Lets face it Even when GW2 goes live I highly doubt many people will want a fully equipped HoM for every character they have... I will prob only make 1 character to begin with and that character will have the works... Character 2 will be somewhat less in prestige. Thats the way it is now thats the way it will be then.
Please make our Mini pets usable across your account as it always has been in the past. If the HoM can not be used for storage, then at least give us that ability since we are forced to carry them around still. I have all mine in storage and I just click to display them from there when in towns... Now I still have them all in the same place but only 1 character can display them anymore. ;( Frustrating... It would have been 1 thing if these minis were like this from the beginning and only usable on THAT character that got it, but they were not. We can not just erase that from or memory. Right now at this point no one knows or cares what it gives you in GW2... If that means we only get the benefits on 1 character there. great. So let it be written, So let it be done. But what we are talking about right NOW is not something a year or more away in GW2, but something that will effect us right now, and in 2 weeks... The way things are in the HoM atm, I don't think most players will be interested in it at all... I know Anet staff is trying to think ahead. Way ahead... BUT... GW matters to us too?
We are very much like a dog being thrown a bone... If its a dried up old fossil, we will be happy with it for a sec or two, but upon realizing it has no flavor, it will be quickly discarded.
Hexum
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I got a tapestry up for armor. How do you get it to display your armors? I have a couple sets of elites in my inventory but nothing. Sorry if I missed it in an earlier post.
I got a tapestry up for armor. How do you get it to display your armors? I have a couple sets of elites in my inventory but nothing. Sorry if I missed it in an earlier post.
Gucio
I think you need them in your inventory when in the HoM.
Sarevok Thordin
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Originally Posted by Hexum
Question:
I got a tapestry up for armor. How do you get it to display your armors? I have a couple sets of elites in my inventory but nothing. Sorry if I missed it in an earlier post. For me I was wearing the entire set.
I got a tapestry up for armor. How do you get it to display your armors? I have a couple sets of elites in my inventory but nothing. Sorry if I missed it in an earlier post. For me I was wearing the entire set.
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by =HT=Ingram
So here is my first one.
I used it on the Miniature monument to see it first, and was slightly disappointed in that the miniatures are customized to the character NOT the account. I knew they would be customized, but I really was under the impression it would be a place to STORE my miniatures and then have access to them on my account from there. Now they are only good on 1 character and 1 character alone and I STILL have to tote them around in storage someplace...
by character not account has been mentioned long before you went there
it has been officially posted not once but many times that nothing is stored in there.
NOT ARMOR
NOT WEAPONS
NOT MINIPETS
it was stated flatly that those hoping to use it for extra storage were wrong.
now you know so you wont be surprised that you cant dump your armor/weapons there either
Kool Pajamas
The requirements for pvp titles are a joke. They should display all titles pvp and pve no matter what rank you have. It's a monument for me not everyone else.
Saraphim
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Originally Posted by Hexum
Question:
I got a tapestry up for armor. How do you get it to display your armors? I have a couple sets of elites in my inventory but nothing. Sorry if I missed it in an earlier post. You need to be wearing them. When I had my Primeval/Ancient/Canthan combo on it asked me if I wanted to place those sets on, then told me to take a hike because none of them were complete. So I changed into the full Vabbi (minus headpiece) and was allowed to put that on. It didn't register it while it was my inventory.
I have a question also. I haven't been able to use any of the other monuments, is this because you need tapestries? If so, where from?
I was kinda hoping that the HoM being at the beginning would mean I could stash my other toon's gear for GW2 - not as extra storage. I'm aware it doesn't work like that - without dragging all of them through the whole expansion...
I got a tapestry up for armor. How do you get it to display your armors? I have a couple sets of elites in my inventory but nothing. Sorry if I missed it in an earlier post. You need to be wearing them. When I had my Primeval/Ancient/Canthan combo on it asked me if I wanted to place those sets on, then told me to take a hike because none of them were complete. So I changed into the full Vabbi (minus headpiece) and was allowed to put that on. It didn't register it while it was my inventory.
I have a question also. I haven't been able to use any of the other monuments, is this because you need tapestries? If so, where from?
I was kinda hoping that the HoM being at the beginning would mean I could stash my other toon's gear for GW2 - not as extra storage. I'm aware it doesn't work like that - without dragging all of them through the whole expansion...
wolfwing
What I was thinking was allow titles to show up at level one, but they get more extravagent the higher the rank.
Starsky-sama
Anyone displayed anything on their weapons monument yet? It just says it needs to be "worthy" in order to display....meaning GWEN specific stuff. haha.
personally, im ok w/ the minipets thing (as I already put in more than 11 atm.
), it's the weapons that I want some answers on....like in wiki is it just speculation of these quest specific items that can be displayed in the weps monuments. pics would be appreciated if anyones able to put in something there. /thx.
personally, im ok w/ the minipets thing (as I already put in more than 11 atm.
), it's the weapons that I want some answers on....like in wiki is it just speculation of these quest specific items that can be displayed in the weps monuments. pics would be appreciated if anyones able to put in something there. /thx.
calis_masker
I was about to ask about the weapons. I tried gold and green and both didn't work
counciler132
I think this is the first time that a new addition to the game (not including nerfs) has been so flatly disapproved of by the players. I'm shocked and surprised at everything that's going down here.
baggy
The rearrange buttons on the monuments are completely unacceptable. We should have more choice in how our monuments are displayed. Here are my recommended changes for the Monuments...Devotion: Either make minipets customized to the account, or all the pet to be "stored" frozen in the monument.
Fellowship: Allow which hero/pet to be displayed as well as which armor set will be displayed on the hero.
Honor: Clean it up and adjust PvP related listings.
Resilience: Either use the primary class or allow which class is to be displayed for each set of ascended armor.
Valor: Allow more than just EOTN weapons! I should be able to display my Tormented Staff!!!
silvershock
Ok I really like the idea of the hall of monuments but from what I've been reading and experiencing myself, Anet really made some mistakes this time.
Mistake number 1: pvp titles only. (and to make things worse, they are set to high)
Mistake number 2: Customise minipets to character when u add them to the minipet shrine. What if someone wants to display them on another char? Ok so you guys wanna prevent that people 'duplicate' their minipets shrines to other characters, but I'm sure there is a different, BETTER way.
Mistake number 3: Heroes can only be displayed with upgraded armor. What if people like the original armor?
Mistake number 4:
Only high end gwen weapons that can be added. So all those beautifull golden weapons, perfected for what? to be forgotten when we start playing guild wars 2?
Mistake number 5: They didn't include a free beer coupon with the GW:EN Prerelease bonus pack.
All very serious mistakes Anet, better start thinking what to do, Most players are really happy with your work, and this might screw things up for you guys.. :/
Mistake number 1: pvp titles only. (and to make things worse, they are set to high)
Mistake number 2: Customise minipets to character when u add them to the minipet shrine. What if someone wants to display them on another char? Ok so you guys wanna prevent that people 'duplicate' their minipets shrines to other characters, but I'm sure there is a different, BETTER way.
Mistake number 3: Heroes can only be displayed with upgraded armor. What if people like the original armor?
Mistake number 4:
Only high end gwen weapons that can be added. So all those beautifull golden weapons, perfected for what? to be forgotten when we start playing guild wars 2?
Mistake number 5: They didn't include a free beer coupon with the GW:EN Prerelease bonus pack.
All very serious mistakes Anet, better start thinking what to do, Most players are really happy with your work, and this might screw things up for you guys.. :/
SetsunaSamurai
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Originally Posted by silvershock
Mistake number 5: The Resilience Monument is a giant piece of trash
Fixed number 5 for you.
Also, there are a thousand different threads on this already. Was a new one really necessary?
Also, there are a thousand different threads on this already. Was a new one really necessary?
BenjZee
1-4 pissed me off but when i read 5 i became furious
The Great Al
I think it's somewhat fair that only GWEN weapons can be added. For over a year and a half, people bought and sold weapons with no idea that they could one day be stored in a HoM. I'm sure people would be kicking themselves if they sold a high end weapon, because they would have kept it had they known about this.
Ruby Lightheart
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Originally Posted by Vermilion Okeanos
I think "ALL" of the display are bogus. None of them benefit us a single bit at this moment, and what would tell what can it do for us in the future? Don't expect customer to see the future.
Probably will just ignore HoM until GW2 or something as it currently stand.
(when I display armor, it doesn't display "MY" armor... it just display some random armor crafted from that area) yup and its only for ascended armor...i happen to like the 1k armor much better than the 15k...so gues thats another spot in my hall that will be empty
Probably will just ignore HoM until GW2 or something as it currently stand.
(when I display armor, it doesn't display "MY" armor... it just display some random armor crafted from that area) yup and its only for ascended armor...i happen to like the 1k armor much better than the 15k...so gues thats another spot in my hall that will be empty
Ruby Lightheart
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Originally Posted by baggy
Geeze...here i thought savign all my stuff from pve was gonna let me have a nice HoM..but all i got is a generic armor set now...what a shame
Lord Feathers
They also need to get rid of the names on the mini's as they are displayed. This just makes that part of the HOM look aweful. It would be a neat display but all you see is wording.
Pkest
Just because you get upgraded hero armor doesn't mean your heroes have to use it. You can switch them to any unlocked armor. I think this is Anet's way of saying 'if you really love your heroes, you'll get them some new duds'. A little odd but I can live with it.
dubiel005
wow pvp titles only, guess i got r5 wisdom title for nothing. i also feel for those who spent alot of time getting sweet tooth and drunkard title.
Feminist Terrorist
Considering the requirement of the HOM, I feel a little disappointed. Just because I don't care to grind for upgraded hero armor I can't put my heros in the monument? I think that's kinda lame.
If I customize my mini pet, does that mean I can no longer sell it?
If I customize my mini pet, does that mean I can no longer sell it?
Red-Tide
I'm seriously annoyed that I can only display 11 minis at once. I have 25 and want to see them all up there... Also, the minis names being like they are ruins the monument. The name should only be viasble when hovering over it.
Armor monument is also a bit disappointing, doesn't show my armor, just generic sets from the outpost from which it was purchased. Lame...
2 thumbs down....
Armor monument is also a bit disappointing, doesn't show my armor, just generic sets from the outpost from which it was purchased. Lame...
2 thumbs down....
Hyper.nl
Hm, I placed all my minipets in Hall of Monuments and now my other chars cannot activate them anymore. This disappoints me a little since I expected that adding them would only disallow me from trading them with other players.
zamial
This is a "PREVEIW" weekend,a taste of what is to come.I would put huge money on the devs actually knowing the "I'm so disapointed thread" was comming, so they didn't apply all the effects in the hall on purpose or what would ya look forward too?
I am sure the devs know what they are doing, look at all the rabble the HoM has caused already.I say play and enjoy it. Logic dictates that the devs are not going to put up a max pvp title only monument,there will be more added.
Just think how you would have reacted when you got to the HoM and saw all your titles there,you'd have said,"sweet, but now what????? Oh YA, GIMME SOMTHIG MORE!!!!!"
Unless the dev team have all recently had labotomies...................
RELAX
I do feel a bit of sympathy for the people that customized a bunch of mini pets to the HoM.I think that they should have a gold border around any window veiwing the icon to signify that they were "shown" to the HoM and that they can't be traded,but still used by any charecter on the acount.
Armor and weapons this is gonna upset people with tormented/high end weapons if the system stays the way it is.I personally think you should be able to show/store any customized weapon/armor from any campaign to the HoM.THAT WOULD MEAN CUSTOMIZING OFFHANDS AND SHEILDS......(but this may be a graphical issue with GW2)
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Now onto the POSITIVE:
Totally awsome story from what I have seen so far......best yet
Graphics..........OMG......KILLER
NPC'S THAT ACTUALLY TALK
Heros with a story that actually isnt dumb...... (soz I burned out on NF 2 months ago and havent really been back)
Multiclass monsters.....we can, why not them?
Cool weapons so far(I'm sure it only gets better)
I truly hope they can implement some of this game wide and not just leave it for EN.I cant wait to buy/play GW:EN
TY A-Net for wetting my palate.
I am sure the devs know what they are doing, look at all the rabble the HoM has caused already.I say play and enjoy it. Logic dictates that the devs are not going to put up a max pvp title only monument,there will be more added.
Just think how you would have reacted when you got to the HoM and saw all your titles there,you'd have said,"sweet, but now what????? Oh YA, GIMME SOMTHIG MORE!!!!!"
Unless the dev team have all recently had labotomies...................
RELAX
I do feel a bit of sympathy for the people that customized a bunch of mini pets to the HoM.I think that they should have a gold border around any window veiwing the icon to signify that they were "shown" to the HoM and that they can't be traded,but still used by any charecter on the acount.
Armor and weapons this is gonna upset people with tormented/high end weapons if the system stays the way it is.I personally think you should be able to show/store any customized weapon/armor from any campaign to the HoM.THAT WOULD MEAN CUSTOMIZING OFFHANDS AND SHEILDS......(but this may be a graphical issue with GW2)
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Now onto the POSITIVE:
Totally awsome story from what I have seen so far......best yet
Graphics..........OMG......KILLER
NPC'S THAT ACTUALLY TALK
Heros with a story that actually isnt dumb...... (soz I burned out on NF 2 months ago and havent really been back)
Multiclass monsters.....we can, why not them?
Cool weapons so far(I'm sure it only gets better)
I truly hope they can implement some of this game wide and not just leave it for EN.I cant wait to buy/play GW:EN
TY A-Net for wetting my palate.
Plague on a Stick
the thing i hate about the HoM is resilance and valor, you should be able to choose which profession, gender, and armor gets put in there. im a monk and none of the ascended armors i have r displayed as a monk let alone the ascened armor i have (eg granite citedal judgement) you should be able to choose everythin and customize it for your character. and for valor why should it be only weapons in EoTN, i have plenty of high end items from other campaigns i would loike to see up there. and for those with tormented weapons that cant display them i feel bad for ya lol. changes need to be made to every single monument
HoM=fail until they make updates which will better suit everyone
HoM=fail until they make updates which will better suit everyone
Bicuspid
Does this mean I rerolled 5 times and spend 2 months getting legendary survivor for nothing?
Porkchop Sandwhiches
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Sir Green Aluminum
Lazy job anet... I hope this is like the Sunspear grind at nightfall and you don't make us grind to get max titles/hero upgrades/everything in the hall of monuments. Also fix the garphics error for the dells and imbed chipsets please, me friends went insane trying to figure out why they were getting errors with their graphics cards and downloading updates from Intel is a pain.