Hall of Monuments Thoughts

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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One thing is for sure.
It's broken. And I'm not using it until they fix it.
The only good thing there is Gwen and the replay of cinematics.

murasamenobunaga

murasamenobunaga

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Vermont

Lords of Cat [CAT]

A/

Considering GW:EN is a pve expansion, it should display, o idk, PVE TITLES! I mean cmon, use some logic there. The ppl that are really going to delve into gwen are probably not going to be the super hard core pvpers with near max titles. It should at least allow maxed pve title to be shown. I was really looking forward to showing my Saviour of the Kurzicks...

baggy

baggy

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

Flobbitown

Siege Turtles

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by baggy
The rearrange buttons on the monuments are completely unacceptable. We should have more choice in how our monuments are displayed. Here are my recommended changes for the Monuments...Devotion: Either make minipets customized to the account, or all the pet to be "stored" frozen in the monument. Fellowship: Allow which hero/pet to be displayed as well as which armor set will be displayed on the hero. Honor: Clean it up and adjust PvP related listings. Resilience: Either use the primary class or allow which class is to be displayed for each set of ascended armor. Valor: Allow more than just EOTN weapons! I should be able to display my Tormented Staff!!! Few extra notes based on trips in HoM with pals... It seems to me that the leader of the party should be the Hall that is displayed. Currently, its a pop-shot as to who's Hall gets displayed. Please consider beefing up the support of the HoM to make it worth being a place to show off your "accomplishments". Giving the owner more control as to what and how stuff is displayed is key!

Tarun

Tarun

Technician's Corner Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2006

The TARDIS

http://www.lunarsoft.net/ http://forums.lunarsoft.net/

With the minis/heroes/armors/weapons, they really need to let you drag and drop order for all of those instead of the click/arrange method.

Caine

Caine

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2005

Oklahoma

The Spirits of Veangeance

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Meat Axe
I would also prefer my own armour to be displayed, but I can understand why Anet wanted to do it this way. 202 different displays is quite a lot to create. Same goes for non-maxed titles. How much time do you guys think Anet wants to spend making benefits for GW2? Because there has to be a different benefit for each rank in a title. I'm sorry but if ANET has the ability to put your character into a cutscene complete with face weapons armor color etc. Then they should be able to put a copy of that image into your armor display thats a no brainer people. as far as the minis go thats fine if they customize to the account to the char is pretty stupid.

PVP titles in a PVE monument? WTF??? not only no but H*** NO!!!!! This is not the way to give your loyal 2+year players the snub. I mena come on are u actually serious about rewqarding your loyal players or do u just wanna pat yourselves on the back.

And as far as EYE weapons only no way in h*** am i going to put nay weapons into the monument except what i spent all this time getting. If i wanna put my storm bow or my dragon scythes into MY CHARACTERS monument then that should be up to me. As far as putting the skin into GW2 that shouldnt be that big a deal considering that anything already existing doesnt really require any more programming now does it...

Gameplay is AWESOME!!! Graphics are better than ever!!!!! NORN ROCK!!!!

HoM id rather have my son hit me in the nuts with a hammer!!!! NUFF SAID!!!

maraxusofk

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

International District [id多], In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP], LOL at [eF]

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yeah i think everyone agrees that the HoM is massive fail. as it stands, the titles, wepaons, and minipet feature is severly flawed. its best if they make 1 huge HoM for all ur chars, ie display the highest tier in any title u have for title and display the names of the chars that acquired it. weapons should be wutever items u customzied should be allowed to put up into display. dont tell me the eotn weapons are rarer than tyrian 15>50 dwraven, crystalliens, and req 7. i enjoy using my minis in towns when im on differnt chars. the character customization is stupid. if anet has any eyes to read forums, they shoudl be able to figure wut needs to be chagned and fast.

Draccor The Great

Draccor The Great

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Archons Of Elona [AoE]

W/

I feel that HoM is fine except......


I spent 3879 hours maxing out PvE titles (i dont pvp much).
Im NOT saying pvp titles dont need to be displayed but I think that Legendary PvE titles should be an option also. There is no way I am going to spend that much time to get rank 9 in any pvp title.

I like my titles that I worked for and woul like to display them as well.

Nothing wrong with pvp just I just prefer pve.

The weapons as of right now if you read it its not Just EotN weapons but Destroyer weapons only. Needs to be fixed to any weapons that are of higher end finds.

The GweN Preview wasnt all that bad had fun in it.
I got me a new skin sword that umm Auerate Sword


C ya in the mix......

Queen of the Sand

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Must add my dissapointment too.

was hoping HOM was my launch pad,My new home,

I customised my mini gwen, Gutted now I cant show it on other characters I wasnt bothered with customisation it was the locking to character suks?

Devs please rethink the HOM settings as the suck big time

/Signed

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

I find it ironic that they pull PvE and PvP a little further apart (finally) by changing the way favour of the gods works...and then only allow PvP titles in the monument.

Articubone

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Venatio Illuminata [VEIL]

Mo/

I'm extremely bugged not just about things like minipets not being account-wide (I'm never going to be able to get one of the rarer ones, so who gives a stuff which character I customise my whiptail to), but mainly about things like titles. For me, each of my characters is different - I have one getting wisdom, one getting sweet tooth, one getting survivor and so on. Do all of these achievements count for NOTHING whatsoever just because they're all across different characters, and are PvE? And if they're getting transferred to GW2, does having them on separate characters mean that when I'm creating characters later I have to choose whether I get benefits from my monk OR my ranger OR my dervish OR my warrior, rather than getting the benefit from my time spent across all of them?
If I don't have to choose (and think about it, being forced to choose between things like that is absurd - I earned all the benefits, why shouldn't I be able to access all of them?), then why isn't HoM account-wide already?


Frankly, the current state of HoM reminds me of a steaming pile of bullcrap in a field of the wonderful GW:EotN flowers, with the added horrible smell and the excess nutrients killing the flowers in its general vicinity. I haven't even obtained a tapestry from an npc at this current point - I simply don't see the use at the moment since I'll never use it in the state it is now.

Thermoblaze

Thermoblaze

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Croatia

New Dragons[NDR]

Mo/

Anet pls fix the Title monument!Ty

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Question: How do Ranger Pets work? Can you unlock every Pet in the game?

Is there a list of all the Ranger Pets you can unlock anywhere?

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

No secret I'm a huge ANet fan and rarely find fault with the things they do, be it skill changes, loot scaling, etc.

However... the HoM really disappointed me. My mesmer has KoaBD through the Sunspear title, Protector of Elona, Vanquisher of Elona, Elonan GM Cartographer and Elonan Skill Hunter... plus I'm at rank five so far on the Luxon track. But the titles I've worked so hard for... nothing. Outside Abs I don't PvP... not my cup of chowder.

Funny... the HoM was the thing I was most excited about seeing yet it became the only thing in the preview to disappoint. Everything outside the HoM... brilliant. Stunning. Very very well done.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

My only issues with the HOM were...

1) I put Vabbian armor up and it showed a male and female model and neither were even elementals, let alone showing the right armor.

2) I wasnt able to put Ragos Flame Staff onto my weapons section.

3) I wasnt able to then change my mind and put an alternative armor set on.

If they sort those out, im happy! Otherwise I have no complaints.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Queen of the Sand
Must add my dissapointment too.

was hoping HOM was my launch pad,My new home,

I customised my mini gwen, Gutted now I cant show it on other characters I wasnt bothered with customisation it was the locking to character suks?

Devs please rethink the HOM settings as the suck big time

/Signed you actually used a mini gwen as a guina pig in a preview event of a completely untested possibly buggy small time feature?

i didnt even risk one of my herd of mini pigs on the preview

White knight lord

White knight lord

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ka-Tet Of Gilead

Well My complaints are like many of these fine folks on this topic.
1. Minis costomized to that one char? (what a waste)
2. The Armor Monument Displayed the aincient Derv(male) and war(female) armors when I put my Monks armor in...
3. PvP titles in a PvE only feature.....(what a big mistake, Imo)

My last complaint is kinda off topic but, the Grinding for Armor,IMO that is a bunch of BS if they keep it that way.

I personally thought this would have been more of an account based feature added to the PvE element. I hope they fix these things and meet the expectations of many people...

sabriel warmonger

sabriel warmonger

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

dragon academy

N/R

well actual halls would b nice
a hall for titles for example tapestry's for the cartographer title hanging from the walls, a dwarf holding a keg of beer for the drunkard title, a statue of a guy with his foot on a dead monster (different monsters for each campaign)

for the heros statues of them in the alcoves standing like pillars
hall for minis lyk the heros

wel it just a cuple of thorts

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

It does give me some hope, not much but some, that Anet didn't just lock the door to HoM and state that it was not to be released untill the final release date.

Now Anet....you've got our feed back....ACT ON IT!

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Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

I don't think anet will change their minds too much on HoM being more character based, and I really would not expect them to change that aspect of it because they have an agenda for GW2 in relation to it. BUT I would expect them to take some of he information to heart on the consequences that the user base are unhappy with by making use of this "feature".

I:
Definitely Minis should be customized and not allowed to be sold, but the minis should be allowed to be shared with the other characters on that account for regular display purposes... (this is the festive hat concept suggested)

II:
Armors defiantly need to represent the elite armor that they put in. A warrior putting in a elite armor into their HoM and getting a Mesmer armor displayed??? no that's not cool...

III:
Achievements need to represent some PvE titles not just PvP... Cartographer, Luxon/kuzick, heck even things like lucky and drunken (will be very popular due to new Dwarven skills)

Treasure hunter, Wisdom, Skill hunter, and vanquishing.. all worthy titles that should be included.

But above all that the protector titles absolutely should be there. that's what PvE is all about after all...

One that deserves a special place for sure... Legendary Survivor!

Anyone that has achieved any of these titles can tell you its no easy thing to do. and often takes a very long time to achieve. So when such titles are not considered worthy of being put in a Hall of Monuments in your honor... well its just insulting to the people that play your game...

IV:
The heroes is not too big a deal... its sad that we have to grind for elite armor in challenge missions, but its not like that is impossible either... so I think most are ok with that if not a little disappointed... I just think the way it is people will just not use it much... But the Pets was disappointing. I mean I put in a black moa and ended up with a generic bear wolf lynx statue?? Seems odd to me...

V:
The Weapons monument not much is known about yet. we know its destroyer weapons (ie Reds) and that they will transfer to GW2 in some way once put into the HoM... But I think everyone was disappointed that they could not at least display some of their weapon achievements they have earned so far. greens for instance... We are not saying to pass that on to GW2, but it could at least display what you choose to display for now, and eventually put a Destroyer weapon in its place that will survive the ravages of time till GW2 goes live. We know a weapon will be customized, we expect this considering what happened with minis. But we do not want to only have what everyone else has in our HoM... we would like to display a variety of things we earned... and it does not seem unjust to allow it but to say the only thing that survives till GW2 Era is the destroyer weapons...


I hope Anet takes these things to heart and consider making some minor revisions to HoM or rather the consequences to using the HoM. In order to keep the current experience a pleasant and rewarding one for everyone in game.

kerusso

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2007

Hm how do I say this...

Ya all are a bunch of whiners.

Please quit the game, or if you don't understand anything but your "leet" speak try this, "QFT".

The dev's did the best and they made a wonderful story for both the casual and power-gamer.

Sides, they got your money so now you feel like you got the shaft.

Refer back to the third sentence here if you're still with me.

If you're still reading this to this point read the second line.

Truly, STFU and get lost.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by kerusso
STFU and get lost. Back at you.

You resurrect a dead thread just to flame?

I can't think of a better definition of troll.

(FYI, this was written before GWEN went live, when the HoM was totally broken.)

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Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

Percisely Mordakai... ty... many of the things that people suggested, Armor, more titles, harder to get pets, have been fixed in HoM. Others are still being considered...

No One considered that Anet would make huge fixes overnight or even within the week from preview to launch. but wanted it on the list of things to consider for future updates... So yea. this was all Prior to going gold and launching... a good 1/2 of it has been addressed to some extent already. I expect eventually the another 1/4 of the suggested things will develop over time. That pretty much how Anet does things.

Hell it took almost a year for previous suggestions to make it into the game, others still did not make it... It does not change the fact that it informs the designers of some of our wants and desires for them to look at when they get some time. And for the most part, they have always been receptive of such feedback...

baggy

baggy

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

Flobbitown

Siege Turtles

Mo/

Here we are a week later and there have been changes to HoM. I was a little surprised when all my armor was displayed black, then later this week they where undyed. This was pretty disappointing since some of my armor was black and others looked better another color. I hope that this will be changed to be bronzed like the hero statues (which is how I think it should be) or the color it was when we placed it on the monument!

Also, I would like to see the heroes display their elite armor rather than the standard set.

Finally, I still think we need more display options for our monuments. Being restricted to the crazy method that "reorganize" provides is very much lacking. Being able to set which statues are display is much preferred.