Hall of Monuments Thoughts

Crowell The Fallen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Australia

Know Your Enemy [PMS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by baggy
[*]Valor: Allow more than just EOTN weapons! I should be able to display my Tormented Staff!!![/LIST] I completely agree. When i got my Tormented Shield it was the same price as my FoW armor... o.O And i like my all my perfect fellblades. How hard would it be to implement these skins into GW2? Not very.

I assume Anet will make the changes, as this is only the preview (and the beta) :P

HyperLimited

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Nefarious Angels

A/Mo

I wasn't impressed by the hall of monuments much, and it really doesn't give me that feeling of wanting to show off my titles to anyone. I mean the armor displays are showing armor for different classes. Displaying minipets causes them to get customized, which will hurt to some. The weapons display might be good, depending on how uber-looking the destroyer weapons are (At first I thought this was for displaying rare-skinned weapons, so I wasted a tapestry on it. >_>). And you need to unlock a different armor before displaying a hero? O_o

But still, I'll wait to see if they plan on...improving it over the next few months... =/

jesusrunz

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

You blow

Mo/

I R disappointed

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

HoM = a total failure and a slap in the face

gg on alienating your best advertisers on the element that is supposed to keep us tied over through GW2

new management please

=HT=Ingram

=HT=Ingram

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

Yes its a preview. I 100% agree thats why the issue is being discussed NOW before it goes gold with this with Anet thinking everyone is all hunky dory with it... Cuase just about everyone I have talked to in game thus far have nothing but praise for the preview, but its almost a full 180 degree attitude on the HoM... And thats almost game population wide... I just think it needs some tweaks before it goes live, and having he fan base expressing that NOW means Anet will at least consider it...

As to the game itself. Fabulous Never seen the game look as good or as smooth... I love all the quests and rewards, I love the heroes and the new PvE skills, pets, Everything but the HoM... Even with it as is I would give the expansion a 5/5... Just with the Player advisory to avoid the HoM at all costs... Treat it like it is not even there at all and its a perfect expansion... Indeed if it was not there at all it would be perfect in my humble opinion. But it is, and it has issues for the players... So thats why its being discussed now... While they are actively working on the expansion for going gold, and before its too late to do anything about till 6 to 8 months later...

Lucifer PVP

Lucifer PVP

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Refuge From Exile [RFE] Refuge-From-Exile.com

W/Mo

HOM should be account based

* Honor: Little deer trophy Wolf Trophy etc for HA
All PVE titles max number of titles you can display
* Resilience: Leave how it is if HOM changes to account based
* Valor: I should be able to display my Tormented weapons, who cares about greens

Guildmaster Cain

Guildmaster Cain

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Guildmistress Eve [Me], Guildmistress Azura [N], Guildmistress Azumi [A], Guildmistress Jaina [D]

Guildmaster Aeron [Rt], Arthas Ironfist [W], Guild: The Tyrian Templars [TTT]

The problem is that peopl just expected too much from HoM, and they get disappointed.

Expect nothing and see what the future brings and u will never get disappointed.

Tifas Revenge Z

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

Methods of Pure Madness [HATE]

E/Me

One thing I don't like about the Hall of Monuments is that there is absolutely NO PVE title monuments at all whatsoever! I mean, Legendary Guardian and Legendary Vanquisher took countless hours for many players to achieve, and to not have a monument to those titles is just a BIG SHAME on ANET's part. Also, no Kurzick/Luxon Title recognition, no Skill Hunter recognition, no recognition for Legendary Defender of Ascalon, no recognition for grandmaster cartographer titles, NOTHING! Most of the monuments they showcased just seem like they would cost someone a lot of money to get, such as minipets, 15K/FOW Armor, and Hero Armor. Gamer title track level 9 I just have 3 letters: W T F. There is no way anyone can achieve that title at all who has started in this past year since games are limited to special events only such as the Dragon Festival.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain
The problem is that peopl just expected too much from HoM, and they get disappointed.

Expect nothing and see what the future brings and u will never get disappointed. QFT

I honestly thought it was going to be a kind of "personal outpost" kinda like the Command Post - where various quests can build onto it with NPCs and stuff. That was all entirely in my head, true, but I seemed to get that impression somehow. I think I also along the line got the impression that we'd be able to have all of our achievements "recorded." Neither of these things are true, which pretty much makes the entire hall useless to me.

I don't PvP often enough to even have one level of any titles, so the only things I can in my HoM do is record my heroes/pets (big deal), record my minipets (at the loss of ever being able to use them on any other character again - yeah, dumb), and record my "elite" armor sets (which I get in pieces because I like to mix 'n match - creativity bad, apparently). I don't think I'll be going back the the hall anytime soon. Waste of the developers time to make that thing, if you ask me.

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

when the early movie showed HoM with tons of mini pets and armor sets of different professions, that was a clear message that it was account-wide

thats why we have 300 posts of mainly outrage

Ben-A-BoO

Ben-A-BoO

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Europe

Like those other ~130 fellow gurus posted before me I am rather disappointed by the current state of the Hall of Monuments.

But I just relax a bit and enjoy the new scenery ...
Meanwhile i post my little rant as well to get it of my soul:

Honor: pvp titles only and then at outrageous tier levels?
(rank 12 hero = that is 21,600 fame, guyz LOL)
I was looking forward to see my first level drunkard there and not only max titles ("oh btw, if you read the small print someone might actually notice you are kind of a big deal ..." erhm, yeah right)

Sidenote: To include in the preview only pvp titles was a rather stupid move for a mainly pve focused expansion...

Resilience: Armor display for the wrong profession?
(what i enjoyed the most was mixing up different armors not bothering to have the full piece and look like 90% of the other players - I have many 15k's but never of one certain type ... shame it is ... and in this current state not interesting at all for me)

Valour: Only including EotN weapons?
Clear for me that should be fixed - expected to at least see all the greens up there.

Fellowship: Need to upgrade armor to unlock a hero?
erhm, why is that? can someone at Anet please explain me what kind of logic I should look for?

Devotion: Costumizing mini pets per character?
I can see the problem they faced to implement that (same problem btw goes for the unique shields that might be displayed in the Valour monument, because they aren't customized as well). But hey, most of the players use their minis account wide for ages ... forcing them not to do so is a very harsh step.



I am pretty sure (which means full of hope) that they fix most what the complaints are about... since its a pre-view isn't it?

Anyhow, enjoy your weekend - I have seen enough for now.

Thanks for your time and heads up,
Timebandit

Tarus From Taros

Tarus From Taros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Ya know, I really like Eye of the North. This expansion has the nicest scenery out of anywhere else in the game, the textures are amazing. But then there is the Hall of Monuments, the thing that was promoted the heaviest for purchasing EOTN. For all those who don't understand how most of us are dissappointed it's because we were lead to believe the HoM was going to be this fantastic place where all of your accomplishments were going to be shown. Every single one of the monuments has a major issue with it that I do not like but apparently the rest of the community isn't too fond of either.

This being a preview event doesn't justify it. What, is it a preview of crap? I have been waiting for nearly a year now for great content and know that both team's have been working on this for the past year, and this is the best they could come up with? GW2 isn't an excuse here either. Arenanet has said over and over again in interviews that EoTN has been their focus and not GW2. I really hope that isn't true. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy the rest of the game... but again HoM was the big selling point for this product and out of everything they shouldn't have got wrong this is it. Arenanet, this isn't up to your standards. You could do a whole lot better then this.

plasmasword

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

how do u get a 2nd tapestry thing?

Drew Almighty ll

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Ronse, Belgium

Blade Of Soulds[DVDF]

Mo/

Complete Northern Allies(Primary) to get a second 1 !

And yeah , Anet just lost a lot of costumers again with their JOKE(HoM)

Only PvP titles in the PvE section of the game? OMG ROFL xD

BUT... GW:EN is cool , the items/quests/decor look cool! So I don't complain that lot yet...

littlejay

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Ascolan Lords [tal]

D/E

make the game only show off rit armor for everyone, problem solved

Ben-A-BoO

Ben-A-BoO

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Europe



This is what an old friendship looks like in the new HoM ... just sad ...
(Tiger made a yellow puddle there after the picture was taken and whistling we went hunting again)

And oh hey, you need to have this nice Armor to unlock Olias and then it displays him in that tight suit I wanted so dearly to get rid off

Anet ... Please fix this flaws

Sincerely,
Timebandit

Vanessa Dwager

Vanessa Dwager

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/R

If the Hall was supposed to keep track of what we did so our ancestor can benefit from it why does the hall not mention that I'm a Legendary Spearmarshal? Not everyone went out of their way to max that title.

Also, I hero'd a lot of missions, but because I could not get them their elite armor they are forgotten to history? Not cool

I haven't gotten to the minis, weapon, or armor things yet but from what i have read it's not good.

yuna of spira

yuna of spira

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Perfectly Normal Beasts [MEAT]

Mo/Me

Im with many others on this that HoM should be upgraded, as i expect it will be.
I understand this was kind of a beta weekend, but they told us that stuff we did this weekend would be kept-aka skills, items, outposts, quests....blah blah blah. So I just get a lil worried when anet says somethin like that, of how permanent some components are....

So, for my specific problems with HoM, everyone is talking about the r12 hero, but what about the r9 champ, r9 glad....etc. there are definitely ppl with r12, but as far as I know, there is absolutely no one even close to those others......
I mean, is ANET expecting there to be a TON of leveling of those titles between now and gw2? are those titles specifically designed to give 1-5 ppl in the whole game huge notoriety and sense of personal accomplishment? And how could this stuff not have been obvious enough to the developers? like, it seems just common sense to see that a r12 hero, r9 champ and r9 glad are near to none in presence. Like, if we all found these huge problems with the title part, the miniatures, etc. so quickly after it coming out.....how in the world did they miss that? I just feel kinda slighted, like they didnt really work much on this campaign when stuff like this happens.

but hey, lookin forward to the 31st when i can see what (if any) changes were made

Sparda

Sparda

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Netherlands

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by timebandit
Like those other ~130 fellow gurus posted before me I am rather disappointed by the current state of the Hall of Monuments.

But I just relax a bit and enjoy the new scenery ...
Meanwhile i post my little rant as well to get it of my soul:

Honor: pvp titles only and then at outrageous tier levels?
(rank 12 hero = that is 21,600 fame, guyz LOL)
I was looking forward to see my first level drunkard there and not only max titles ("oh btw, if you read the small print someone might actually notice you are kind of a big deal ..." erhm, yeah right)

Sidenote: To include in the preview only pvp titles was a rather stupid move for a mainly pve focused expansion...

Resilience: Armor display for the wrong profession?
(what i enjoyed the most was mixing up different armors not bothering to have the full piece and look like 90% of the other players - I have many 15k's but never of one certain type ... shame it is ... and in this current state not interesting at all for me)

Valour: Only including EotN weapons?
Clear for me that should be fixed - expected to at least see all the greens up there.

Fellowship: Need to upgrade armor to unlock a hero?
erhm, why is that? can someone at Anet please explain me what kind of logic I should look for?

Devotion: Costumizing mini pets per character?
I can see the problem they faced to implement that (same problem btw goes for the unique shields that might be displayed in the Valour monument, because they aren't customized as well). But hey, most of the players use their minis account wide for ages ... forcing them not to do so is a very harsh step.



I am pretty sure (which means full of hope) that they fix most what the complaints are about... since its a pre-view isn't it?

Anyhow, enjoy your weekend - I have seen enough for now.

Thanks for your time and heads up,
Timebandit All the things said by this chap i agree wrong armor display im a freaking ele what does that warrior and dervish in my hall.

Why do i need to upgrade my hero's they just stand there in their basic armor.

Why only PvP titels.

And for weapons i'll keep my mouth shut for my own good.

plasmasword

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drew Almighty ll
Complete Northern Allies(Primary) to get a second 1 !

And yeah , Anet just lost a lot of costumers again with their JOKE(HoM)

Only PvP titles in the PvE section of the game? OMG ROFL xD

BUT... GW:EN is cool , the items/quests/decor look cool! So I don't complain that lot yet... I got that one first, where is the one before that?

Drew Almighty ll

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Ronse, Belgium

Blade Of Soulds[DVDF]

Mo/

Look into the Pool in your HoM (Clip: The First Vision) and after this you'll get 1 when you talk to Gwen

Happy Gaming!

And btw, if HoM stays like it is now, it's a shame to show it to your friends, nothing beatyful at it

Nero_Fayth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

A very large, cozy virtual world.

IMO quit bizzitching, get over it. THIS IS BETA GWEN. People complain too early when Anet makes a mistake. Remember this is a PREVIEW weekend. Quit crying.

Just like millions of scrubs cried for hours when glad title was bugged, people are doing the same now. FFS I can't stress it enough, be patient.

acidic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nero_Fayth
IMO quit bizzitching, get over it. THIS IS BETA GWEN. People complain too early when Anet makes a mistake. Remember this is a PREVIEW weekend. Quit crying.

Just like millions of scrubs cried for hours when glad title was bugged, people are doing the same now. FFS I can't stress it enough, be patient. Beta gwen? The release is in a week and all the hard copies are already shipped to retailers. I did not pay them to release a beta, I paid for a final polished version and not a half-assed attempt at HoM.

Fog Accomplice

Fog Accomplice

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Lords of Midnight [oOo Alliance]

I heard from a super-PvE obsessed guildie of mine that PvE titles are also really sucky to look at in the HoM and only PvP titles will truly add anything to the place. This really sucks too because he's a legendary cartographer, legendary skill hunter, etc.

Can anyone agree/disagree with this? I don't have the EotN expansion yet so I'm kind of in the dark...

Sarevok Thordin

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

The main thing I want from the HoM is for PvP titles of ANY rank to have an affect. Obviously, upgradable after being set and they get more flash after you rank up and goto reset it.

Otherwise it kinda screws you.

Takeko Nakano

Takeko Nakano

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Great Britain

W/P

Yeah, HoM seriously needs to be sorted out. And, no, this is NOT Beta. We've got a week until full release. If we don't raise hell to get this sorted out then nothing will change.

What I want to see:

1. Armour and weapons sorted out. Specifically show armour pieces bought, not only if sets are bought. And actually show them!

2. Heroes that you get, not just one with upgraded armour.

3. Ranks shown REGARDLESS of what level they're at.

savage vapor 33

savage vapor 33

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Regems Basement

The Malevolent Wolfpack [tMw]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Takeko Nakano
Yeah, HoM seriously needs to be sorted out. And, no, this is NOT Beta. We've got a week until full release. If we don't raise hell to get this sorted out then nothing will change.

What I want to see:

1. Armour and weapons sorted out. Specifically show armour pieces bought, not only if sets are bought. And actually show them!

2. Heroes that you get, not just one with upgraded armour.

3. Ranks shown REGARDLESS of what level they're at. Agreed with all three. Especially number 3. Some people might only have a bambi, but those people might also be the ones that earned that bambi when it was challenging back during prophecies only, we worked just as hard.

This will be a rough week at the Anet office. :P

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bicuspid
Does this mean I rerolled 5 times and spend 2 months getting legendary survivor for nothing? You did so you could display it in the HoM without knowing whether you'd be able to display it all...wow...thats...not very clever?

darted

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Braveheart IV

E/Mo

So far after playing most of yesterday and a bit today.

I really didn't know what to expect from the HOM.
I am disappointed in the Hall of Monuments extremely.
I have eight level 20 characters two of which have finished at least one game.
I have two more I am working up to level 20.
Why do I not get recognition for this? Because I don't really play PVP much!
I love this game in PVE. Can I get some love in the HOM since my understanding is that for GW2 it is for PVE only equipment!

I love the GWEN PVE game, The boxing is fun and LOL.
I am so impressed with the look and feel of the game and play.
Much fun has been had.

Great job on the game Anet. HOM needs work IMHO (and oh so many posted here).

SightlessBlind

SightlessBlind

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

Kentucky

Servants Of The Shard

R/E

So far I am for thinking that I will just not activate the pet monument when I get the game on the 1st. I didnt get the pre release because i work on weekends.

*sigh*

This is how it is for me with every nice weekend event.

Meat Axe

Meat Axe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Brisbane, Australia

R/

On the whole, I loved the pre release weekend (would play more, but over here it's 1:20 am and I have to be up in 5 hours time). I was a bit disappointed when I went to put titles into my HoM and found that I could only display PvP ones (which I don't have). But I got over it. I realised that chances are that PvE titles are going to be added with the full release.

I would also prefer my own armour to be displayed, but I can understand why Anet wanted to do it this way. 202 different displays is quite a lot to create. Same goes for non-maxed titles. How much time do you guys think Anet wants to spend making benefits for GW2? Because there has to be a different benefit for each rank in a title.

So I enjoyed myself this weekend (I wish I could have found those damn reindeer and tried to charm one, but I went to the spots where there were reported sightings, and none appeared. So I'll just have to wait a week). Chin up, people. It was just a preview event. Not everything is fully working yet. And for that stuff that is fully working, constructive criticism is always good (Note the keyword there: constructive).

3D House of Beef

3D House of Beef

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Not knowing what kinda of rewards our hall will hand down to our GW2 characters, I have another red flag on Character Based halls. When GW first came out, we had 4 character slots... 3 if you wanted to do any PvP. My first character was a Mesmer that completed the game, like everyone else, but as time dragged on and I made more characters, someone had to go, so she was deleted. (sorry...)

If in GW2 you get some kind of title (for example) passed down to a single character, and then must delete or remake them for some reason, is there then no indication available for my account that I used to be Kind of a Big Deal?

SlippyJack

SlippyJack

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nero_Fayth
IMO quit bizzitching, get over it. THIS IS BETA GWEN. People complain too early when Anet makes a mistake. Remember this is a PREVIEW weekend. Quit crying.

Just like millions of scrubs cried for hours when glad title was bugged, people are doing the same now. FFS I can't stress it enough, be patient. I put a few thousand hours into titles. And for it to say I've only achieved "People Know Me of the Kind of a Big Deal" Title Track instead of listing them individually hurts the Slip. Glad I didn't finish vanquishing areas!!!

Arthos

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

We All Hail To The Pumpkin [Song]

honestly who wants to show off some random professions armor sets..
really hope this is changed

Ice Of Dragons

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2007

E/

they should maka HoM acount based , all titles , herose whitout req a
2nd armor , ........ but so far GW:EN is a great GW expansion

bigroach

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

R/Rt

only allowing pvp titles makes sense.

since HOM will transfer benefits to gw2, pve titles will have no bearing in gw2. they are completely different pve games.

whereas pvp is more generic and the titles are vague and could apply to gw2.

the main thing about HOM that doesn't make sense to me is the monument of valor--I don't understand why it is EOTN weapons only.

motionless

motionless

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

A/

A few days ago i jus brough my mini bone dragon and i put it in hall of mournment........i didnt know it will customized my bone dragon and its stuck with one of character that i don play often....


any way to reverse it or something T.T if not i have to buy one more ....

sad....

Shanaeri Rynale

Shanaeri Rynale

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

DVDF(Forums)

Me/N

I was kinda hoping to see a statue of my Shan, in her armor like a proper monument. It all seems too impersonal atm. Like a collection of Gw 1 stuff in a shiny room..

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by motionless
A few days ago i jus brough my mini bone dragon and i put it in hall of mournment........i didnt know it will customized my bone dragon and its stuck with one of character that i don play often....


any way to reverse it or something T.T if not i have to buy one more ....

sad.... Ouch. Wasn't there a warning about the customisation? I haven't put any in yet but not really that bothered about it tbh, all my chars have a particular mini pet that they carry. Kuunie stays with Saraphim and always will.

That said, I do think customisation per account or a pet NPC would have been better, it would be a nice gesture from A.net if they un-customised those who have inadvertantly done it in the preview weekend.

Clone

Clone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

My suggestion to Anet per minis:

Create a Toymaker NPC, somewhat akin to the festival hat makers. If you show him a customized mini, he "learns" how to make that toy for the 10g fee. He won't "learn" anything that isn't customized, and all minis he recreates will be customized.