Chromatic Drakes

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SotiCoto
SotiCoto
Banned
#1
To put it lightly.... and shortly.... they are overpowered.

I mean... they're only level 20 and yet they're easily more dangerous than a group of level 28 Torment Creatures.
I can't even get near them without getting splashed with every kind of elemental damage imaginable, knocked down by Mind Blast, pinned in place by Mind Freeze and then wailed to death with Sliver Armor and Fire Storm.

A group of 6 of them just wiped out my entire herohench party (same party I went through the whole of Nightfall with, sans trouble) without even breaking sweat.....

... And yet all the other creatures in the Battledepths are a walk in the park!



I'm strongly recommending to A-Net that the creatures be made more balanced.... as things are rather ridiculous as is.



[On the other hand, I don't recall encountering any Enchant removal in there (though I could be wrong)... Maybe this is a job for a 55 Monk, if she can avoid the knockdowns.]
Stolen Souls
Stolen Souls
Desert Nomad
#2
hmm, I really havent had much trouble against those guys (except when they use sliver armor and insta-pwn me...I play warrior >.> )


Edit: I DO have some trouble against those giants (forget their name). They must have some crazy defense. -_-
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CyberNigma
Jungle Guide
#3
my guess is that if the second poster is right, them using sliver armor is wiping out your party. I'm not there so I don't know, but check that and if that's the case then a new strategy would be required. it's probably payback for all the e/a and a/e's using sliver to solo bosses lol...
Sasuke The Betrayer
Sasuke The Betrayer
Wilds Pathfinder
#4
I really have no idea what you're talking about @ Op. I haven't been having problems, but those giants with huge staves/maces and stuff.... God... they have ALOT of damage ALOT of health ALOT of defense. Jesus -_-.
Stormlord Alex
Stormlord Alex
Grotto Attendant
#5
To be honest?
None of the enemies I've encountered in GW:EN have been at all challenging.

The Drakes I just mop the floor with, using a lot of Savannah Heat (pretty much... my strategy for everything and anything)
I actually quite like them, the element-changing thing is fairly interesting.

Best advice? Either kill 'em fast with mass AoE, or use a lot of Protection Prayers.
SotiCoto
SotiCoto
Banned
#6
Fair enough. I suppose if you're an elementalist yourself with superior spells then it shouldn't be a problem to deal with them. Can't say the same for my 2 elementalist heroes and 2 elementalist henchies though. They manage just fine to beat a team of nine of the drakes.... then wipe on a team of 6. ¬_¬

My character that I happen to be in the Far Shiverpeaks right now with is an Assassin however.... and those drakes are NOT assassin-friendly. I can't particularly imagine that most other classes would be too fond of them either though. As I said... they can switch between elementalisms at will, cause knockdown, reduce speed by 90%, set us on fire, make themselves nigh-on invincible .... and then of course there is Sliver Armor....
Getting near them is suicide.

I haven't even come across the giants yet.... but if they happen to be melee fighters then I doubt I'll have any problem at all with them. I have the build that can solo Shiro on my side.
SotiCoto
SotiCoto
Banned
#7
Ok....

NOW I have seen the giants...
And they're really no trouble at all.
Any of them.
They're nothing compared to the Chromatic Drakes.... at least for me. o_0;
I mean they die a bit slowly... but they definitely do die, and without heaps of elemental damage, knockdowns and speed reductions.

[Sorry for the double-post but I figured someone else would have posted here inbetween. Guess I was wrong.]
LONGA
LONGA
Krytan Explorer
#8
I think they can be handle like shiroken elementalist. KD them and have a Shatter enchantment.
The problem is heores and hench man AI doesn't not aganist AoE or any return damage stuff and end up killing them self a lot.
Evilsod
Evilsod
Banned
#9
You don't think these are overpowered? A mob of 3 of these attacked a mob of 3 Destroyers...... LEVEL 28 DESTROYERS and won! They may be defeatable in NM... but how the hell do you think they'll be in HM? A full blast of Mind Freeze, Mind Burn, Mind Shock, throw in some Firestorm, Incendiary Bonds and Arc Lightning... that would wipe an entire team with ease.

LONGA, they have 4 choices of elites, thats the main problem. Mind Freeze, Shock and Burn. And as if that isn't enough, they get Obsidian Flesh! They can have up at any 1 time Obsidian Flesh, Frigid Armour and Stoneflesh Aura. They should have 1 elite... an Energy Storage based elite. For example... Elemental Attunement! Why does a foe that can change between all 4 elements not have that and somehow never runs out of energy?
HydroX
HydroX
Frost Gate Guardian
#10
Everyone cries "nerf nerf nerf" when their cookie cutter build won't cut the mustard.

It's called evolution. Change your bar, go back out there, and "pwn some face". Period.
LONGA
LONGA
Krytan Explorer
#11
I can see mind shock,mind freeze a trouble some stuff.Maybe you can Put a spell breaker on your tank on your tank and aggro them first.They will likely to spam the spell on your tank.Ai arn't smart enough to deal with exhausting spell.
I used this trick in Domain of Fear(The one before the tone down) and work grate.

Unless like Evilsod said enemy cheat with energy.
Evilsod
Evilsod
Banned
#12
How exactly do you suggest you counter eles that can block physical attacks, gain 40 armour, gain lots of damage reduction, become immune to spells and load up with a variety of elemental spells, along with ones that cause blind and 'miss'. Well obviously you can... but how exactly do you intend to combat everything else that you come across effectively? You can't even Power Block them
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Incandecree
Frost Gate Guardian
#13
Interrupts.

I used a smite/interrupt build and I usually bring a mesmer. It used to be Norgu but I have switched to Gwen. I have no problem shutting most of it down. Yes they hit hard at the start.
moriz
moriz
??ber t??k-n??sh'??n
#14
i've only met them once, and i managed to beat them. granted, i was under the spirit of the raven at the time, which made me mostly invincible.

i also have gwen loaded with interrupts and warmonger's weapon/splinter weapon (and shatter enchant. that one really hurts). that with me + 3 melee heros/henchies, i just waltz in and lay down the big hurt.
MelechRic
MelechRic
Desert Nomad
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by Evilsod
How exactly do you suggest you counter eles that can block physical attacks, gain 40 armour, gain lots of damage reduction, become immune to spells and load up with a variety of elemental spells, along with ones that cause blind and 'miss'. Well obviously you can... but how exactly do you intend to combat everything else that you come across effectively? You can't even Power Block them Choking Gas ranger?
Arkantos
Arkantos
The Greatest
#16
PvE monsters...overpowered?! I've never heard that before.
Sasuke The Betrayer
Sasuke The Betrayer
Wilds Pathfinder
#17
TBh, the only nerf I want is the Destroyers xD. I was battling a boss in the dungeon... omfg... he has like 250 armor does 250 damage and has 2500 health. Lol. Cracked Armor and I still did 4 damage to him on my normal attack. (Warrior here)
tuna-fish_sushi
tuna-fish_sushi
Desert Nomad
#18
I also believe they are overpowered I saw one go use obsidiand flesh + stoneflesh + ward of melee add in Mind Shock + Mind Freeze + Mind Burn +Firestorm

Although they are takin out pretty fast and theres no way you can interrupt a group of 6 of them.

Also, Never heard of Overpowered Monsters look at argo in the boreas seabed mission Instant casting Meteor shower and Double the damage = 300 damage Meteor show + 400 damage Fireball.
That is in Normal Mode, wouldnt dare fight him in hard.
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Hexum
Lion's Arch Merchant
#19
Didn't have any problems with the drakes at all. But then again I had 3 protection monks with me.
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vergerefosh
Wilds Pathfinder
#20
They are quite powerful. I find myself struggling to beat them, and with 60% DP, not fun. Though those big things are too