Runic Blades drop in EotN? can anyone confirm this?
Malice Black
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Originally Posted by Abnaxus
In my opinion, it's wrong to think that A.net introduces rare skins.
Players decide which skins are desirable and rare, and worth hundreds of ectos.
And sometimes is not even related to the rarity.
Proof? I think you can find at least 3-4 gold perfect inscribable crystallines normally on sale in high end forum, same for runic blades and stygian reavers, because they drop in HoH and every day people wins HoH.
Now, find me a perfect r9 curses raven staff 20/20, tyrian because so far I haven't seen an inscribable one. Maybe some old collector can have one, but I've been looking for one year or more and never seen one for sale.
Probably there are hundreds of perfect crystallines around, and maybe 2-3 of such raven staves, if there really are.
Now, how much a could even a collector pay for such unique item?
Even 200k would sound really a crazy price, despite the fact that such raven staff would be 100 times rarer than a perfect crystalline, so a correct price should be 150-200 million gold.
Collectors decide arbitrarily what is rare and desirable, not A.net.
I had one of those
cost me half mill if I remember correctly. Got it off Moses King who got banned for either buying gold or running bots. Prob still floatng around in-game, somewhere, would cost a lot less then I paid for it...5k maybe
Players decide which skins are desirable and rare, and worth hundreds of ectos.
And sometimes is not even related to the rarity.
Proof? I think you can find at least 3-4 gold perfect inscribable crystallines normally on sale in high end forum, same for runic blades and stygian reavers, because they drop in HoH and every day people wins HoH.
Now, find me a perfect r9 curses raven staff 20/20, tyrian because so far I haven't seen an inscribable one. Maybe some old collector can have one, but I've been looking for one year or more and never seen one for sale.
Probably there are hundreds of perfect crystallines around, and maybe 2-3 of such raven staves, if there really are.
Now, how much a could even a collector pay for such unique item?
Even 200k would sound really a crazy price, despite the fact that such raven staff would be 100 times rarer than a perfect crystalline, so a correct price should be 150-200 million gold.
Collectors decide arbitrarily what is rare and desirable, not A.net.
I had one of those
cost me half mill if I remember correctly. Got it off Moses King who got banned for either buying gold or running bots. Prob still floatng around in-game, somewhere, would cost a lot less then I paid for it...5k maybe
kerpall
idk if its just me. But i never thought a Raven staff was that rare. I've had plenty good ones i've never bothered to post on guru. Everyone makes big deals about crystallines, so thats why you'd see more of em.
The Herbalizer
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Originally Posted by Abnaxus
Players decide which skins are desirable and rare, and worth hundreds of ectos.
And sometimes is not even related to the rarity.
Proof? I think you can find at least 3-4 gold perfect inscribable crystallines normally on sale in high end forum, same for runic blades and stygian reavers, because they drop in HoH and every day people wins HoH.
Now, find me a perfect r9 curses raven staff 20/20, tyrian because so far I haven't seen an inscribable one. Maybe some old collector can have one, but I've been looking for one year or more and never seen one for sale.
Probably there are hundreds of perfect crystallines around, and maybe 2-3 of such raven staves, if there really are.
Now, how much a could even a collector pay for such unique item?
Even 200k would sound really a crazy price, despite the fact that such raven staff would be 100 times rarer than a perfect crystalline, so a correct price should be 150-200 million gold.
Collectors decide arbitrarily what is rare and desirable, not A.net.
Rare skin + But ugly skin = Not so high price
Some dude in my guild is maybe paying a stack of ecto for r9 15>50 swamp club. There are like barely any of them. Only reason it not worth more is it has same skin as rams hammer.
Most of the people who appreciate true rarity dont play now. Hence why so many rare items dont sell for what they do.
Crystalline sword has a unique and highly knoticable (sp) skin. Inscribable ones are common as hell. Non inscribable are the 1337 ones. Not many R8-9 15>50 ones and only a few R10 ones. Hence why r10 used to sell for 1000 ecto (when ecto alot more expensive), r10 inscribable now is like somewhere around 170e (i think) which is like 850k.
if crystalline swords were an even more common drops like chaos axe then they would be waaaay less. anything rare will get a high price. rarity with desirable skin will cause an even higher price. crystalline sword was always going to be desirable when it had one of the most unique skins in gw.
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Originally Posted by Malice Black
I had one of those
cost me half mill if I remember correctly. Got it off Moses King who got banned for either buying gold or running bots. Prob still floatng around in-game, somewhere, would cost a lot less then I paid for it...5k maybe
I thought it was a spam bot. Sucks he got banned as he had like the most godly stuff. 10/20 Orrish Staff, x2 +30-2s R10 Magmas, +30-2s R8 Magmas etc.
Rambo'
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Originally Posted by Abnaxus
Now, find me a perfect r9 curses raven staff 20/20, tyrian because so far I haven't seen an inscribable one. Maybe some old collector can have one, but I've been looking for one year or more and never seen one for sale.
Probably there are hundreds of perfect crystallines around, and maybe 2-3 of such raven staves, if there really are. Now, how much a could even a collector pay for such unique item? Even 200k would sound really a crazy price, despite the fact that such raven staff would be 100 times rarer than a perfect crystalline, so a correct price should be 150-200 million gold. Collectors decide arbitrarily what is rare and desirable, not A.net. Hang on a minute....Are raven staffs actually quite rare? I've got a tyrian req9 divine favor on my monk, never gave it much thought Icy DS
Only thing in this game worth investing large amounts of money in are items that are no longer obtainable and req 7 swords/shields/axes/hammers
Mordakai
It's all a matter of opinion. Personally, if it doesn't carry over into GW2, than it's not worth investing in.
Hyper Cutter
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Originally Posted by Kushiels_Scion
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Hang on a minute....Are raven staffs actually quite rare? I've got a tyrian req9 divine favor on my monk, never gave it much thought 
only kept it cause it reminded me of the omen films + i liked the look of them
I don't think it's that raven staffs are rare, it's that ones that don't suck are extremely rare due to the idiotic way the Tyrian/Canthan system works...
Retribution X
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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer
Most of the people who appreciate true rarity dont play now. Hence why so many rare items dont sell for what they do.
Crystalline sword has a unique and highly noticable skin. Inscribable ones are common as hell. Non inscribable are the 1337 ones. Not many R8-9 15>50 ones and only a few R10 ones. Hence why r10 used to sell for 1000 ecto (when ecto alot more expensive), r10 inscribable now is like somewhere around 170e (i think) which is like 850k.
if crystalline swords were an even more common drops like chaos axe then they would be waaaay less. anything rare will get a high price. rarity with desirable skin will cause an even higher price. crystalline sword was always going to be desirable when it had one of the most unique skins in gw.
/applaude
Bingo. nail on the head. beat in the face.
Whatever. you just made one helluva point. People don't pay 100K+ for a 15>50 req 9 White scythe because they like the skin. they pay that for it because the name is friggen rare. (Like, old-skool Sickle rarity...)
Crystalline sword has a unique and highly noticable skin. Inscribable ones are common as hell. Non inscribable are the 1337 ones. Not many R8-9 15>50 ones and only a few R10 ones. Hence why r10 used to sell for 1000 ecto (when ecto alot more expensive), r10 inscribable now is like somewhere around 170e (i think) which is like 850k.
if crystalline swords were an even more common drops like chaos axe then they would be waaaay less. anything rare will get a high price. rarity with desirable skin will cause an even higher price. crystalline sword was always going to be desirable when it had one of the most unique skins in gw.
/applaude
Bingo. nail on the head. beat in the face.
Whatever. you just made one helluva point. People don't pay 100K+ for a 15>50 req 9 White scythe because they like the skin. they pay that for it because the name is friggen rare. (Like, old-skool Sickle rarity...)
ShadowbaneX
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Quote: I dont own a Runic Blade and never had. Not sure why you think I own one :S Because you made it sound like you did, or at least there was an impression there. You started talking about you buying PS2s and CD players or whatever. I was extending upon that scenario, but you could easily have been replaced with 'someone'. This little thing isn't part of the larger debate, so I'll be continuing on.
Quote: Anet dont need to make protection plans. They shouldnt introduce skins when they think they will make them common months later. Dont make a skin so rare that it can be only expensive then decide to make it a skin worth a few k. Surely they must have had some idea of what skins they were going to add in GWEN around the time the Runic Blade was added to HoH. Why not? Why can't ANet change their minds? Why can't they just introduce it as a rare, high end item like so many others? Why can't the Runic Blade skin drop in high end GW:EN areas, just like Mursaat Bows and Hammers drop in Prophecies. Like Celestials, Zodiacs or whatever in Factions. Like Dead or Elemental Sword, etc in Nightfall? Would it really kill things if this happened? In mentioning the Dead Sword, I know it became rather common due to the Ungrateful Slaves quest and over-farming, much like the Dead Bows and Sephis Axes from the farming outside Bergen Hot Springs. If they were to impliment it I would hope that it wouldn't be put in a similar, easily over-farmed location.
ANet just seperated the PvP aspect from Favour, something that is solely PvE. Rare-skined items are something that is solely PvE. Why then should it only be accessible in PvP? To keep it rare? Why keep it so impossibly rare?
Quote: Yes, because I am the biggest jerk in GW. If you can provide a scrap of proof that I have ever said anything along those lines I would love to see it. I mean my e-peen must be sooo big what with my main char, my warrior using 1.5k/collectors armour and everything... Those 1.5k/collectors armours sure do increase that e-peen. I never said anything about your character. You might infer that but where did I actually say that I was mentioning you specifically? You say that you're not that way, and I'm inclined to accept that, but there are others out there, that are exactly like this. People that want rare-skins and titles to stay very difficult because they went to insane lengths to get them and don't want others to get it easier. They don't want to see what they've done become common because this diminishes their 'achievements'.
Quote: Not sure why you listed like everything you own. Most of my characters have like 1.5k armour bar two who have fow
Quote: Yeah nothing wrong with Anet changing their minds all the time. Adding rare skins all the time and then making them common is wrong. They keep on doing it so they are totally aware that when they add rare skins they could make them common.
Would you have a problem with inscribable gold Crystalline and Dwarven axes dropping in pve a common drop? I mean is it unfair on those who owned them? What with them being a hoh only drop for 2 years and being a rare drop aswell. Is it the owners faults? Did they buy too soon? No, actually, there isn't much wrong with it. Personally, I'm not fond of either skin, but that's just me. It's they're game, they're intellectual property. If they decide to change how it functions, it's their perogative. Granted, as I've said before, I don't want the skin to be a common skin, I'm fine with it being a rare skin. I just want it to be a rare skin that drops in PvE in addition to PvP.
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Its not too hard to work out whether you want a skin to be common or rare. If rare skins keep on being made common one could only presume that Anet prefer for skins to be common over rare. So why keep adding rare skins and changing their mind? Hundreds of ecto are being lost and to get those ecto usually alot of time is needed. Anet are causing uncertainty amoung item collectos and those who want certain skins. Noone knows what is going to be devalued drastically next. And players wonder why some item collectors wont touch anything other than Tyrian items...
It's not too hard to work out that you've got no idea what I want, despite me saying, repeatedly what I want. Right now there's common, rare and 'only drops in HoH'. I think that last one should go away and that the items that drop there should drop in high end areas of PvE as rare drops. Perhaps along the lines of the Tormented Weapons, or perhaps just rare drops in the Fire Islands, the Deep/Urgoz or the Realm of Torment. Quote:
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