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Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

28 Aug 2007 at 12:28 - 81

Ok, um. I thought the first post in this thread was less about vulgarity and having people cuss but having people cuss *at* you and telling you to phluck your mom.

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Originally Posted by =HT=Ingram

But it certainly should have a AO rating in my opinion with the stuff that goes on in this game from time to time...

Well it's not really part of the game, so the rating can't be based off of that. Neither ANet or ESRB can't be held responsible for the actions of others. That's why the rating on the back says "game experience may change during online play".

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Originally Posted by eightyfour-onesevenfive

Ok, that much is pretty obvious, but why the hell "GO RED ENGINE"? What is the reason for choosing those particular words? What is the meaning?

I think somewhere in the GWG Q&A that it said it was from some Austrailian show. The link in the wiki for it was pretty confusing, though...I dunno if it was the host or someone in the audience yell "Go you little red engine!"

/shrug

Sir Green Aluminum

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

28 Aug 2007 at 17:19 - 82

Steps to fixing this situation for the op and people against swearing:
1. Turn on common sense and then swear filter
2. Step out of real world and return to Christian/Amish town and resume sheltered life.
3. If you want to stay on the net without seeing swear words, join one of those "Mature Adult Guilds, NO TEENS!" you see advertising in towner. *cough* Then proceed to turn of local, emote (just incase someone starts dancing, and trade.

To be fair there are some people who just swear alot to try to be kewl in teh skewl, but those people are usually by themselves trying to figure why their build is so bad. I don't see why you people against swearing just can't laugh at someone swearing stupidly or doing something stupid/funny in local instead of saying I m gonna report u!! Yeah if they try to get past the swear filter it's reportable but not that big of a deal, I think they just don't want CHILDREN to see the swear words when they are playing. Do you gasp when you go to the movie theartre and see that they are swearing?!
Dear Anet, after you fix HoM and start posting in forums again, please add PK to Guild Wars 2. The community needs to fix things it self.

Relambrien

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Delaware, USA

Error Seven Operators [Call]

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28 Aug 2007 at 17:21 - 83

Quote:

Originally Posted by =HT=Ingram

It does not change my personal opinion that the actions of the community should be considered in the rating for the game... and as it deteriorates it should loose some ratings with the gaming standards board. That would encourage the makers to maintain a good and strong filter list. and put automatic system in place to deal with the extra crude people in game.

Did you somehow miss the following part of the ratings box?

"Game experience may change during online play." This means that people aren't all going to see the same things as everyone else, and that peope will have varying experiences within the game. That's something the devs can't control (though this also describes how updates to the game occur as needed).

The ESRB (and other ratings agencies around the world) can't look at a game and know what people are going to say and do. All they can do is look at a game, determine what age the content within the game is sutiable for, and slap the game with the rating they decide.

In fact, since every online game with chat is going to experience people saying disgusting, offensive, or vulgar things, then -every singe online game- would have to be rated M or AO.

EDIT: Oh, and about the whole RED ENGINE thing, I don't really know the origin, but when someone sees you typing such a ridiculous phrase repeatedly, it really creates a disincentive to swear, doesn't it? I think that's why it was chosen.

doglar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

real men like unicorns

Mo/Me

28 Aug 2007 at 20:39 - 84

Quote:

Originally Posted by pork soldier

I cry inside when people say mean things to me on the internet. WHY MOMMY, WHY?

LMAO me too!!!!

it jsut makes me wanna commit suicide.
But some u say that kids not curse right? you are VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY wrong.
I myself am 14, and u cant beleive how much i curse, msot likely once every 5-7 sentences(AVERAGE for TEENS, GOOGLE it if u dont beleive me)
First if u think that, then u are VERY dumb, because kids are the people who swear the most.

Just wanted to get that of my chest, have, and trust me u DONT know ur kids if u think that they dont swear

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

28 Aug 2007 at 20:42 - 85

You're only 14 and you think you can speak for every culture? I'd like to say you're far smarter than I am, but I think I'd like to stop myself dying with laughter for another 3 or 4 years.

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

28 Aug 2007 at 20:51 - 86

Quote:

Originally Posted by pork soldier

I cry inside when people say mean things to me on the internet. WHY MOMMY, WHY?

Thats a bit of an immature response, dont you think?

Anyways, the EULA is pretty clear on the whole thing, it is a bannable offence and if Anet chooses to take action over the use of any particular swear word they're full entitled to do so.

Sure, there's a filter and sure, there's an ignore option or you can just turn off local chat but the point is that you shouldnt have to but unfortunately the GIF principle holds true in GW as well.

Personally I dont have a problem with someone saying 'd*mn' or 'f*ck*, I do have a problem with people spouting racist remarks and abusive behavior, if you dont then you're part of the problem.

doglar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

real men like unicorns

Mo/Me

28 Aug 2007 at 20:59 - 87

actaully im REALLY international, im form a different couintry, have friends from spain, mexico, japan, china, germany, and france and they ALL were born theire.and obvouisly they go to their countries and they tell me kids there swear too. So i dont know what your talking about

AND YEEEEESSSSS they swear TONS, trust me man i dont get my words out of nowhere, i know what im saying is true, im jsut trying to pass the information so u can become smarter and knwo more thing, but tis your choice to believe me or not

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

28 Aug 2007 at 21:04 - 88

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tijger

Thats a bit of an immature response, dont you think?

Meh, he's just a troll.

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

28 Aug 2007 at 21:13 - 89

/ishappythatthemajorityofgurupostersaresocialoutcas tsanddonotrepresentsociety

ONCE AGAIN, Anet is not your personal army.

doglar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

real men like unicorns

Mo/Me

28 Aug 2007 at 21:18 - 90

and once again crying about people swearing= being a 2 year old.

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

28 Aug 2007 at 21:20 - 91

Quote:

Originally Posted by doglar

and once again crying about people swearing= being a 2 year old.

Or the mother of one. Mothers don't like that stuff.

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

28 Aug 2007 at 21:21 - 92

Some people have to stop being ignorant about the world. It's the internet, there are people from point A to Z. Learn to live with it, or go play Mario on your gamecube and gtfo.

Mad Punisher

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

29 Aug 2007 at 17:18 - 93

I was on vacations for a while...that's why i didn't reply. First of all sorry about my spelling i saw someone complaining about it...lol. Most suggested turning on the Filter, well ye it doesn't annoy me for some friends or ppl i know through the internet to tell me RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO you or anything like that. I mean it's the word that annoys me, plus there are many ways to overpass the filters come on lol. I put the filter to maximum and i typed F*ck you B*tch moth...... etc and guess what filter didnt do anything...i think the recipient got the point :P
The reason i made this post is because i got pretty angry with the fact that someone i don't know from anywhere starts telling me to go RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO my mother and laughs...and when i report this to anet they dont give a crap...I play lots of pvp and many times ppl start swearing...i never rly mind, they probably got angry with losing or something. But this... completely violates the EULA agreement...and believe me the story is as i described (some said i didnt say the full story..y would i make a post if i just had a fight with a guy, y would i even report him.)
P.S. Some rly mature guys said it's the internet bla bla bla... cry baby etc well
if i walk on the street and someone tells me to go RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO my mother im gonne start a fight...i guess you will say oh come on it's the real life lol @ u.
RED ENGINE etc= swears the filter of guru stopped for those who don't know

wilebill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mt Vernon, Ohio

Band of the Hawk

W/Mo

29 Aug 2007 at 17:29 - 94

Guess I'm lucky. Haven't seen any profanity or rudeness in GW lately.

Report, ignore list. These people show up in WoW, in EVE Online, and probably everything else.

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

29 Aug 2007 at 21:02 - 95

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryant Again

To a maximum of ten.

And they can't see if you take them off the list. A day at maximum is all you need to take care of 99.99% of all idiots you pm you constantly. Then take him off, repeat with the next moron.

Njaiguni Blaze

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB]

Me/

29 Aug 2007 at 21:50 - 96

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyy High

And they can't see if you take them off the list. A day at maximum is all you need to take care of 99.99% of all idiots you pm you constantly. Then take him off, repeat with the next moron.

QFT
Actually, I said that myself already a few posts ago, but what the heck.

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

29 Aug 2007 at 22:07 - 97

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyy High

And they can't see if you take them off the list. A day at maximum is all you need to take care of 99.99% of all idiots you pm you constantly. Then take him off, repeat with the next moron.

Well not for my old guild leader. He placed that guy on the ignore list many times, and each time he took him off (after about a week or so I think) the guy would be right back to messaging him. He did this for some time, until my guild leader just left him on ignore haha.

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

29 Aug 2007 at 22:16 - 98

Im pretty sure I was introduced to even the most rude of swear words before I hit the age of ten. Anyone child playing on GW would have heard it all before unless they live a sheltered existance or something. Anyway if parents get so worked up over it they really shouldnt be letting there kids into any mmorpg as bad language is used in all games and so is other undesirable stuff.

Words dont really harm people especially over the interwebz.

reverse_oreo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Scars Meadows [SmS] Officer (not recruiting)

29 Aug 2007 at 22:23 - 99

Quit your RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing crying and deal with it. Swears are a part of life. Use the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing swear filter and move on. RED engine lololol

People like you are the people who need to be banned from this game, reporting everything "WRONG" that people do. People like you are the reason my very first gw char got banned, i hate you. Because something is offensive to you, does not mean you should go and ruin their gameplay.

savage vapor 33

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Regems Basement

The Malevolent Wolfpack [tMw]

29 Aug 2007 at 23:12 - 100

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

Im pretty sure I was introduced to even the most rude of swear words before I hit the age of ten. Anyone child playing on GW would have heard it all before unless they live a sheltered existance or something. Anyway if parents get so worked up over it they really shouldnt be letting there kids into any mmorpg as bad language is used in all games and so is other undesirable stuff.

Words dont really harm people especially over the interwebz.

Should have been the only post here, close please? Herb hit the nail on the coffin, if your old enough to be on the game let alone the internet, you should be old enough to handle some cuss words now and then.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

29 Aug 2007 at 23:17 - 101

Quote:

Originally Posted by savage vapor 33

Should have been the only post here, close please? Herb hit the nail on the coffin, if your old enough to be on the game let alone the internet, you should be old enough to handle some cuss words now and then.

You missed it. Even though the OP may've presented it wrong, it's not about vulgar language, it's about being called rude and vulgar things. Totally different than "just sum cus words lol".

Tachyon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Stoke, England

The Godless [GOD]

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29 Aug 2007 at 23:17 - 102

Well, being an Anglo-Saxon guy myself I feel it is my right to use the Earthy language of my forefathers!

Smile Like Umean It

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/Rt

29 Aug 2007 at 23:33 - 103

Quote:

Originally Posted by reverse_oreo

Quit your RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing crying and deal with it. Swears are a part of life. Use the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing swear filter and move on. RED engine lololol

People like you are the people who need to be banned from this game, reporting everything "WRONG" that people do. People like you are the reason my very first gw char got banned, i hate you. Because something is offensive to you, does not mean you should go and ruin their gameplay.

I'm sorry, but have you read through the thread? Or even the OP?
The guy was harassing him. It doesn't matter whether he used perfect grammar, spelling, and punctuation or had vulgarity coming out of his rear. He blatantly broke the rules and wasn't punished. Insulting someone and suggesting they do things with their mother that a decent part of the world deems illegal is just not the done thing to do.

I have zero problems cursing you*, your mom, your dog, your best friend, your best friend's cousin on his step-father's side or anyone else out, but I'm not going to whisper someone like that because I think they may have done something.
He was in the wrong and deserves to be punished.

*You in general, not specifically you.

zen321u

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Knights of the Dragons Pyre

W/Mo

30 Aug 2007 at 00:07 - 104

I am of the opinion of, why bother. Anet makes the rules, threatens punishment but does nothing. The only time Anet does ANYTHING in reguards to banning is if it hinders the game economy.

The EAU clearly states that you are not to swear, and so forth, yet I see people in towns acting like sailors. Actually, I know a few sailors who would be offended by that language.

Acting like the offenders isn't the right thing to do, but neither is Anet.
They get their money, and deal with the economy, Frell the rest of the EUA. Just as long as they get the cash and all.

That's my 3 cents. This is Walter Cronkite, saying good night and god bless!

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

30 Aug 2007 at 01:02 - 105

Quote:

Originally Posted by doglar

actaully im REALLY international, im form a different couintry, have friends from spain, mexico, japan, china, germany, and france and they ALL were born theire.and obvouisly they go to their countries and they tell me kids there swear too. So i dont know what your talking about

AND YEEEEESSSSS they swear TONS, trust me man i dont get my words out of nowhere, i know what im saying is true, im jsut trying to pass the information so u can become smarter and knwo more thing, but tis your choice to believe me or not

I'm from Scotland and I'm already smarter than you could even comprehend. It's funny how you look at one end of the scale yet disregard the other end as "children". Some religions won't let you swear and truly intelligent people can talk WITHOUT SWEARING! WOW! LEGENDS OF MYTH! Once again, idiots who think swearing is acceptable at any time and any environment = immature. Still, it's your choice to believe me now before you get a metaphorical or literal backhander.

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

30 Aug 2007 at 02:44 - 106

Quote:

Originally Posted by KANE OG

Wikipedia describes this guy as an idiot.

KANE

Edit: That other idiot above me is another one. Keep reporting. Fight the good fight.

Hm. This will get things done. Flame a flamer, then add your signiture, and then edit to flame another person. That very much amuses me. I see little reason that you should have an account on these forums, the way you post in many threads.

ANYWAY

To get on topic. Yes, the chat system filter, and the ignore list are there for reasons. Since people these days, especially young children see the need to act older (which decodes to using what some people take as offensive language to a disgusting point of a vulgar word every three words) you will find often the situation of a flame war going on in local chat or provate messaging. Arenanet cannot stop said ignorant people from playing the game, however.

Use your ignore list and your chat filter if mere words offend you. That's all there is to it.

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

12 Nov 2007 at 16:17 - 107

Hmmm, well I managed to get myself banned for inapropriate language for 71 hours. But I was being very very bad on purpose anyway.

Although is it really fair that I actually got banned for replying to people calling me a noob for my skill bar in RA? All insults were thrown back at people whispering me in the first place, so meh, back to Oblivion for 3 days.

reverse_oreo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Scars Meadows [SmS] Officer (not recruiting)

12 Nov 2007 at 16:22 - 108

i think if you get offended by swears you need to get off the internet. thank you.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

12 Nov 2007 at 16:26 - 109

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhavv

Although is it really fair that I actually got banned for replying to people calling me a noob for my skill bar in RA?

Most would probably say that you should've been more mature or ignored them in the first place.

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

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12 Nov 2007 at 16:51 - 110

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryant Again

To a maximum of ten.

A change that was too much to be accepted.

It was today that we lost a game in RA. The mesmer in our team decided to flame us all. I whisped him asking how i was expected to save him from an SP spike while i was sitting on the floor thanks to 2 signet spikers. He kept flaming me and everytime i /ignored he proceeded to change between FOUR accounts.

The cap is an issue, no doubt.

It seems to me that the OP's issue was not so much the language but the fact he got this abuse for no good reason.

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

12 Nov 2007 at 17:05 - 111

Quote:

Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

A change that was too much to be accepted.

It was today that we lost a game in RA. The mesmer in our team decided to flame us all. I whisped him asking how i was expected to save him from an SP spike while i was sitting on the floor thanks to 2 signet spikers. He kept flaming me and everytime i /ignored he proceeded to change between FOUR accounts.

The cap is an issue, no doubt.

It seems to me that the OP's issue was not so much the language but the fact he got this abuse for no good reason.

Wow, that's a dedicated Griefer...

Trub

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Sitting in the guildhall, watching the wallows frolic.

Trinity of the ascended [SMS]+[Koss]+[TAM]=[ToA]

12 Nov 2007 at 17:13 - 112

Rahja The Thief wrote:
LOL, little black kettle calling the cauldron black if anything. goochie goochie goo! Who's mommy's wittle boy? Goooood wilil' boy. Yesss!

LOL..omg I lol'd too hard on that one!!

I just have to ask the original OP,
Why the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing you PM the SAME 'abuser' back?

*sigh* Get over it guys...there's more to worry about out there than some humans using creative ways to piss you off.