Petition: Re-Skin Endgame Armor

Farcry Deathblade

Farcry Deathblade

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/Me

Here's a shoutout to the level designers at Anet...good job, I like the scenery. As for the rest of you, GET OFF YOUR ASSES AND DO SOMETHING INNOVATIVE. I spent the whole summer gathering up cash and materials so that all I could find for my monk was a bunch of crap? Even my ele, who is still toting around prophecies armor...I thought at least they could come up with something extravagant without being over the top. Here's an idea, hire some kids right out of college just to do a bit of concept art, or hold a competition...don't just mix and match a couple of armors and throw a paint job that's ever so slightly reminiscient of asuran or dwarven design. Make this armor something I actually want to stay up till midnight to get my hands on, or does it not matter now that you've got my money? Way to be a bunch of douchebags...

Omniclasm

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guild Hall

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Offtopic, but I want to agree with Farcry Deathblade....the scenery is amazing.

oxuultae

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Misanthropy Ad Nauseam [Miso]

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Reskinning the Ranger FoW Hands and Boots for Monument = a big no-no.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by oxuultae
Reskinning the Ranger FoW Hands and Boots for Monument = a big no-no. It's a biiiiiiig no no!

samifly

samifly

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Girl Power [GP]

Mo/Me

Armor is one of my favorite things to buy in the game - its where all my money goes. But it looks like almost everything is a reskin, which is greatly disappointing to me. Add to that that they require a bit of grind even to get the armor, makes the 40 "new" armors a bit of an exaggeration

I'm not trying to complain, I think GWEN (so far as I have played) Anet's most polished product yet, but in this one area it falls completely on its face.

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

I really wonder where the dedication with anet went. They really went above and beyond in all aspects of gaming with each campaign, but they seem to have half assed the armors in this one.

Fox Reeveheart

Fox Reeveheart

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Michigan

none q.q

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lol and I remember all the people saying during the preview


"THIS IS JUST THE PREVIEW, THIS IS ALL BOUND TO CHANGE IN LOOKS SO DON'T GET WORKED UP ABOUT IT BEING RESKINS"

I just spent 40 bucks on pretty scenery (which i can't see too much with my crappy comp) and some weapons... the armor is just.... wow :\ i mean one warrior armor is the result of 3 different reskins...

now I will at least say the male warrior silver eagle is "ok" (except the helm) but really its all just utter crap. I been looking at all the armors on the wiki... HORRIBLE

the got it nicely with the common armor stuff (though stuff like chaos arms wont be a common sight) but those are single armor pieces. that couldnt have taken away from them making nice AUTHENTICALLY NEW sets of armor.

Where is Gaile Grey to comment about this?

androidgeoff

androidgeoff

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

FISHERMEN HAVIN

Ugly Ducklings [ugly]

Mo/

hiding in her room going "puh-lease we make u new game lol"

Phoenix_

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

I have to agree the armors are pretty bad, and what about some of the weapons? Lesser Jagged Reaver, Jagged Reaver, Greater Jagged Reaver? Same weapons just different sizes what is this McDonalds? Small medium large, i even got one of each clearing out one zone. Yikes

Omniclasm

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guild Hall

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix_
I have to agree the armors are pretty bad, and what about some of the weapons? Lesser Jagged Reaver, Jagged Reaver, Greater Jagged Reaver? Same weapons just different sizes what is this McDonalds? Small medium large, i even got one of each clearing out one zone. Yikes I think the different tiers of weapons are pretty cool like that.

jaspersureshot

jaspersureshot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Damage Radius [dr] officer, Braveheart World Xi [any] alliance

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I can understand everyone's opinions on this matter. I agree that it is acceptable to use some old concepts in creating new armor arts. But i must say that this can only go so far, i swear on the warriors part ever since Obsidian armor was made waaaay back in Prophecies before factions was even thought of in every campaign since its art has been redesigned sooo many times. In all seriousness ANETs originality is going down the toilet. I seen alot of the armor an its just pathetic. I'm mainly a ranger an the new armors are pathetic in the original sense. The asuran armor is a revised drakescale set, Vanguard is prophacies collectors, and dwarf is Ancient. Seriously ANET has had a bunch of design weapons contests, why can't they have a design armor contest? Since their own designing ability and originality is beyond slipping.

evil hambone

evil hambone

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2007

None

N/

This "new" armor baffles me. 99% of the Prophecies, Factions, and Nightfall armors were unique on the necromancer. Then things like this come along.
I purchased the "Monument" Necromancer armor.
The armor is 4 different pieces *the scar is the Ancient Scar Pattern* The chest is a re-skin of an armor found both in Prophecies and Factions, the gloves come from Nightfall's Elite Sunspear armor, the pants are a re-skin of the Elite Cultist, and the shoes appear to have come from a Canthan starter armor.
Aside from this random mix of armor pieces, which I dyed black, there are red spots in several areas, as if they did not take the time to even make sure the armor can dye correctly. If i wanted random pieces of armor, I would have purchased random pieces of armor.

Doucet

Doucet

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

League of Commanders[LoC]

If nobody remembers, this "expansion" was a rushjob.

They were working on Campaign 4, and they dropped it when the idea of GW2 came up, and made GW:EN to transition between the 2 games. yes GW:EN was a rushed project, alot if not all of the armor are reskins and it was tragically short. It's the price we all pay for GW2 to have enough time to be designed properly so we have a nice game to play. Really all the nagging that ArenaNet has to go through because people aren't happy is unbelievable. Because honestly I'd like to see any one of you do a better job that they did in the time GW:EN was built.

Wolf_Lone

Wolf_Lone

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Hong Kong

Lost N Found

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I seriously doubt I would buy GW2 after seeing so many reskins of weapons and armors. I don't mind if they provided half the amount of weapons and armors but I can't stand it while they promised 40 new armors, half of them were actually reskins.

evil hambone

evil hambone

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2007

None

N/

If, in fact this game was a "rush job" wouldn't it make sense for them to fix armors and add content? This game is great in some points, but as bad, or worse, than factions in others; but i would rate factions higher than this, solely because of the armors. Armor matters to a lot of people, it's customization, which people want, people are happy when they have good options for customizing their characters.

Morgenstern

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

New Zealand

W/R

I don't really care if they are recycled, all I know is that the Norn Male Warrior armour is teh sex!!

Saupht

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Okay, I saw all the armors too on the Wiki and I must say I'm really really disappointed, kinda disgusted, they really did a nasty job in assorting those pieces of armor together, for the Monk for example, they took for the Dwarven armor some pieces of the 15 kurzick which is really different than the other armors and put it together with chest of the saintly, and oh well, it sucks...

Xitoahc

Xitoahc

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

NYC

Kingdom of the Sixth Aspect [KSA]

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Please take the time to post your input on Gaile's Talk page started a Topic Discussion on this same issue, with more people putting their input, giving suggestions and comments, I strongly believe Anet will hear us out.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_...y#GW:EN_Armors

acidic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

The price of this game does NOT match the value of this game.

Gio

Gio

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

I think they need to put more effort into their creations instead of recycling. I love GW, but anet needs to get more creative. I bet this community can do a better job in armors than anet. Just my opinion ^-^.

Vahn Roi

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

I'm more concerned with the fact that warriors seem to get 2 different sets of dwarven armor while every other class gets one.

How is this fair?

evil hambone

evil hambone

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2007

None

N/

Here are those red spots on the front:
http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gw203bn5.jpg

Here are those red spots on the backside:
http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gw202og1.jpg

X Ice Man X

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

England

Why do people moan so much about things being reskinned?

If they made everything brand new from scratch without copying anything from anywhere previously then we'd still be back waiting for Night Fall to come out.

Do you buy a new car and go - Damn! This car is just a reskinned version of my last one! With the 4 wheels and the seats and the doors! It just looks and drives a little different! How dare they rip me off?!

Or when you go on holiday to another country? Are you standing there going - Holy Sh*t! These guys have reskinning our animals! Looks theres a dog! They should be unquie to our country! What the hell are they doing here?!

Get over it, it happens in life, it happens in games. It happens everywhere. When will you stop be surpised by it and getting up set by it?

AydenV2

AydenV2

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

[TCD]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by X Ice Man X
Why do people moan so much about things being reskinned?

If they made everything brand new from scratch without copying anything from anywhere previously then we'd still be back waiting for Night Fall to come out.

Do you lot buy a new car and go - Damn! This car is just a reskinned version of my last one! With the 4 wheels and the seats and the doors! It just looks and drives a little different! How dare they rip me off?!

Or when you go on holiday to another country? Are you standing there going - Holy Sh*t! These guys are reskinning out animals! Looks theres a dog! They should be unquie to out country! What the hell are they doing here?!

Get over it, it happens in live, it happens in games. It happens everywhere. When will you stop be surpised by it and getting up set by it? So I take it your fine with your 40$ worth of reskinned models from previous games we bought? Here is a better analogy...

Version 2 of a new item is out, wow, its going to be cool right?
*purchases item*
What? It's just Version 1 with a new color/design? WHAT A WASTE OH MY HARD EARNED CASH.

pixiLated

pixiLated

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Resident Gutter Dweller

Shards of the Silver Moon [MooN]

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/unsigned

Whilst I may well be thoroughly disappointed with the armours for certain of my chars; ele and warrior specifically, and still sitting here wondering wtf certain people at Anet were thinking. I do not believe that a reskin would be in order.

And I certainly do not think, as others do, that my disappointment in the armours means that I have wasted my money - far from it; I'm really enjoying playing GW:EN and adoring the scenery. Worth every penny my husband and I spent imo.

myst1k

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

do you think Anet is looking thru this lol ??

i bet they are celebrating the millions of dollars they just made with GW:EN
rip off

Avoc

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

They cannot reskin because they have a "concern for the players". What I do hope is that we will get some new armor crafters in a few months time that will actually bring some NEW armor.

Here's for hoping that the armor dep. at Anet looks through the forums, take a quick glance across their desks and say, "Shit... we really messed up guys, sorry."

Because we all know that they are capable of making amazing armors, just take a look at the hero armors.

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avoc
Because we all know that they are capable of making amazing armors, just take a look at the hero armors. Anton's armor almost made me cry. Give me the chance to earn that, and I won't whine once until GW2 is out. D:

...But really, why did they put so much work on our heroes, but not ourselves?

julien

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

At Guild wars

Mo/

/notsigned, Go buy a another armor if your not happy

Anoyying Spirit

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

WOZ

W/Mo

/signed

I just browsed through the armor on wiki for my ranger and they are all pretty terrible but that wouldnt bother me so much if i didnt have to grind for them it that you have to reach at least rank 5 in any title track to get them and im sorry but there not worth it. also what were anet thinking with these random gauntlets they should have made a whole set not just gauntlets and the chaos gauntlets just look like your character washed their hands in white paints

crunch666

crunch666

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Montreal

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevin
I really wonder where the dedication with anet went. They really went above and beyond in all aspects of gaming with each campaign, but they seem to have half assed the armors in this one. I heard the most dedication went to PvP

/signed

kradens

kradens

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

:P guess.

R/

i never thought i'd have to complain about anets design ..........

yes im complaining - call me a complainer i dont care! XD

...just that im shocked that complaining about design ?/?/??

Farcry Deathblade

Farcry Deathblade

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by pixiLated
/unsigned

Whilst I may well be thoroughly disappointed with the armours for certain of my chars; ele and warrior specifically, and still sitting here wondering wtf certain people at Anet were thinking. I do not believe that a reskin would be in order.

And I certainly do not think, as others do, that my disappointment in the armours means that I have wasted my money - far from it; I'm really enjoying playing GW:EN and adoring the scenery. Worth every penny my husband and I spent imo.
This has nothing to do with scenery (read my post at the top of page 3...I in fact think that it's great)...the sole topic here is reskins: armor, weapons, and (though I'm not too concerned because many, many new ones were created) monsters. This project was not a rushed job, they had nearly an entire year (or more, since they have different project teams)

Quote: Originally Posted by Doucet Because honestly I'd like to see any one of you do a better job that they did in the time GW:EN was built Honestly, did you not even read my post too? If I were in charge of the department that does armor(or concepts for armor...w/e), and all I was seeing was QUARTER-assed reskins, it would just be as simple as bringing in new, fresh people to come up with something new that people would actually feel like they didn't waste their money on.

Quote:
Originally Posted by julien
/notsigned, Go buy a another armor if your not happy ...or, I could just not buy GW:EN. Better yet, I could buy another game and quit wasting my time with this repetitive crap. Or, I could jump all over Anet in the hopes that maybe, just maybe...they might realize, "o crap, we really screwed up." ...and they won't repeat the same mistake again...EVER.

Flippy_Skreem

Flippy_Skreem

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Sheffield, UK

GWEN - Search for Gwen Foundation

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Farcry Deathblade
Or, I could jump all over Anet in the hopes that maybe, just maybe...they might realize, "o crap, we really screwed up." ...and they won't repeat the same mistake again...EVER. /Signed

Think that Farcry Deathblade says it all....

malevolence

malevolence

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

well, I did complain already about this, so /Signed

Winstar

Winstar

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

London

/signed

While I've enjoyed the gameplay and environments, I have to agree the armor and skins look a bit lackluster. Nothing makes me want to do the grinding required to get them. I know this is a transitional game before GW2, but there are 2 years before that comes about. Thats a long time and if this is what we are left with it will be fairly disappointing.

abyssil parad0x

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

Well it's too late now, we can since people got the armor. Anet JUst cant change it refund the money any crating material for the people who bought it.

This is the thing, if ANET acctually showed us the new armor before the preview weekend, at least they would be able to find out our input.

That just my 2cents

Omniclasm

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guild Hall

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by abyssil parad0x
Well it's too late now, we can since people got the armor. Anet JUst cant change it refund the money any crating material for the people who bought it.

This is the thing, if ANET acctually showed us the new armor before the preview weekend, at least they would be able to find out our input.

That just my 2cents No, but they can add another set. Look how Warriors have two sets from the Dwarfs, while other professions only have one. They could add a second set for other professions.

Takeko Nakano

Takeko Nakano

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Great Britain

W/P

I don't think all the EOTN armour need to be reskinned, as Fr_3_aK does. However the Female Warrior Norn and Dwarvern armour needs to be re-skinned in my opinion - the latter definitely does not look like prestige armour. Haven't seen the Asuran stuff yet.

Gattocheese

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

New Mexico

GWEN

I said it in a different forum..

Can i kick A-net in the balls....cause they kicked the hell out of my balls. 40 new armor sets my ars. I will admit the stand alone pieces are rather cool. but...what you people who are defending the reskins dont understand is that we invested way too many hours and saved up alot of materials and plat for new cool looking armor. This is supposed to be for level 20 or higher characters, so the armor is supposed to be leet. Its not, half of the armor doesnt even match each other. Most of it is stupid looking. If they cant think of any new armor ideas, they can have a design an armor contest, just like they did the weapons. I could blow away every single piece of crap gwen armor.