Petition: Re-Skin Endgame Armor

neooki

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/Me

Farcry Deathblade, you are a very angry person.

boko

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Farcry Deathblade
Creating something original is not hard. At all. Look at the thread concerning Destroyer armor. Boom. Something original...right there. This thread is for requesting a change (or additions) only. You want pictures? Start a new thread. Either /sign it, /notsign it, or leave. I'll even say it one more time: players want originality, they want something different, they want something that says "I grinded for 12 hours and spent 60k on this, and damn do I look good." And if Anet were to produce a mere 4 fresh sets per class...that's 4 chances that you'll find at least one thing you like for your new character. I already said /notsigned for now. As for leave, I would already have done so, if you could please stop quoting me . I dun't like leaving stuff behind. I was not planning to this much to the discussion. I thought my 1st post was clear already. It's only my opinion, no need to feel so defensive .

Mellyora Wylfre

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

I would love to see hero armor available to playes, not because it shows more skin, but because the level of detail is amazing. In addition, it really fits the concept of Guild Wars being a fantasy game.

That is why I would agree that comparing Guild Wars armor to real life just doesn't make sense to me. I play it to escape from real life and to wear outfits that would be outlandish for fighting in. Real world clothing is limited both by what is acceptable and practical in that world. Clothing in a game is not bound by such limits.

In addition, I have paid $40 dollars of my hard-earned money for this expansion. That doesn't mean I have to be rude to ANet and go on about how they suck, but it does mean that I have a right for my voice and my opinion to be heard. Disappointment may be part of life, but that doesn't mean that I have to roll over when I am not happy with something. I know that ANet can do an amazing job with armor and I love the rest of the expansion. This one issue is my only caveat.

Hong Kong Evil

Hong Kong Evil

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

Rt/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynx Of Ithorian
Hey ,

Just wanted to know the views of all you on this matter , I personally im very annoyed at the lack of effort put into the new armor sets , especially the end game armor that looks like badly retextured RECYCLED versions of older armor , my male monk deldimor armor does not even match - the pance look like there off another armor set to the top and i'd wear my sing jea set over it anyday. utterly dissapointed.

The game to me feel's rushed and recycled , even the end-game green weapons are pathetic - brohn healing staff skin ... just wow.

If your feeling as frustrated as me about the lack of effort put into this game , please share your thoughts and maybe , just maybe anet will pull there finger out and release some original armor skins for us to enjoy.

if anet designers are lazy in designing new armors, anet should at least let us wear the heroes armor.....the heroes armors are 100 times better than our armor.......

what a stupid decision to let heroes look 100 times better than players

Corwin_Andros

Corwin_Andros

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mellyora Wylfre
In addition, I have paid $40 dollars of my hard-earned money for this expansion. That doesn't mean I have to be rude to ANet and go on about how they suck, but it does mean that I have a right for my voice and my opinion to be heard. Disappointment may be part of life, but that doesn't mean that I have to roll over when I am not happy with something. I know that ANet can do an amazing job with armor and I love the rest of the expansion. This one issue is my only caveat. I agree that you, and all of us (lest you think I was taking a potshot at you in particular.. I wasn't) paid for the game and have a right to voice our opinions. The key here is what you said about not having to attack a-net in order to do that. If only others would take the same tact. There is a vast difference between constructive criticism and whining. Some folks just have yet to see that apparently, which is unfortunate.

As for me.. I spent the same $40.. actually $45.. my pre-release was $10 at Best Buy and $35 from the online store. That's less than three hours work.. and so far I've spent at least 20-30 hours playing GW:EN and will enjoy 100's more. All in all, pretty good bang for the buck for me. I've gotten a lot less satisfaction from spending a lot more at times. So while I might have a few minor issues, I think all in all GW:EN has been an outstanding investment.

Hopefully, while I'm sure Anet will take notice of the discontent from the players on the forum here, they won't dismiss the issue out of hand as being presented by a bunch of spoiled brats. I say this as a parent of three, at times rather boisterous teens. I know personally that I tend to tune them out unless they don't at least make an effort to sound reasonable and sane, rather than simply ranting about whatever their gripe of the moment is. Same goes for the customers that call into the Tech Support Center I work at. The ones that have reasoned complaints get much better support than the ones just calling to moan and whine.

NoXiFy

NoXiFy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

★☆٭Ńēŵ~ŶờЯК٭☆★

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/Me

all the games armor was HALF-A55ED

Sujoy

Sujoy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

In Livia's Cleavage (.)ME(.)

The Early Monk Heals The Worm [EMHW]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by neooki
Farcry Deathblade, you are a very angry person. stupid people tend to make others angry

Lynx Of Ithorian

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

British Bulldogs [DOGS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by boko
/notsigned

Instead of complaining, and making a petition for changing the armor, how about people try to be helpful instead of just whining? Instead of changing, how about adding new armor skins?

Submit your own designs and help Anet make something "original" coz apparently, the armor that they make is not good enough... btw, love the new ranger armor...

I would love to see other people's designs coz apparently it is very easy to be original. And it would be nice to have see armor made by the fans. Comeon, i am sure there are loads of people with lots of imagination!

Side-note : Loved those weapons designed by fans!
yes thats good reasoning, what about the people that bought these terrible armor sets , there not cheap to the casual gamer.

That is totally the wrong way to go - adding new armor sets will only add fuel to the fire they need to redesign the armor sets they've already released.

I think people are misunderstanding the bigger picture here , I have no problem with the armor sets being recyled verisions of older sets , the problem is anyone with a creative eye can clearly see these armor sets are broken, rushed, not very well thought out and so painfully unoriginal with the exception of a very FEW sets. I also respect that fact that they are focusing on gw2 and this expansion is just something to keep things ticking untill its released BUT that doesnt excuse the fact we have paid for a product that is so clearly rushed with very little content.

Dungeons you say ? lets see how motivated you are too grind these areas in a few weeks when destroyer weapons are common as muck (only weapons worth squat in gwen) - these weapons hold little prestige as it is since they can be attained quite easily.

Polymock you say ? very nice idea , shame they rushed this aswell giving it a life span of 6 very easy quests , the trading of polymocks could of been a nice gold sink but who the hell cares about collecting these things to win 50 at the most ausra faction for a 3-5 minute battle.

So before you jump on anets you know what , take a look at the bigger picture - once the dust settles and everyone has compeleted the very short storyline and grinded for a few weeks you'll realise just how badly thought out this expansion was.

Loki Seiguro

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

IGN: Scarlet Test Ace

We play Isketch in [HoH]

E/

hell....i find female asuran armor sexy...those glass are just to die for ...and that armor piece in it self makes up for all the short commings

whose with me!?

Fr_3_aK

Fr_3_aK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Australia

I wont be happy until u can get the proper Ebon Vanguard armor, so you look like the Ebon Vanguard. And when you get Norn armor u actually look like a Norn.

evilkingsky

evilkingsky

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

California

Resurrect Me [Help]

N/Mo

one problem i see about redesigning the current armor is that what if someone actually bought the asura/norn/monument/dwarf armor because they liked how it looked. Then when it gets redesigned and they dont' like it, it wouldn't be fair for them lol. Adding a new set seems easier.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by evilkingsky
one problem i see about redesigning the current armor is that what if someone actually bought the asura/norn/monument/dwarf armor because they liked how it looked. Then when it gets redesigned and they dont' like it, it wouldn't be fair for them lol. Adding a new set seems easier. Indeed, people seem to be under the assumption that EVERYONE dislikes it, completely reskinning it would piss those off those who have it who actually like it.

Maybe Anet needs to add "Elite" versions of these already expensive armors?

Corwin_Andros

Corwin_Andros

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by evilkingsky
one problem i see about redesigning the current armor is that what if someone actually bought the asura/norn/monument/dwarf armor because they liked how it looked. Then when it gets redesigned and they dont' like it, it wouldn't be fair for them lol. Adding a new set seems easier. I honestly don't see them redoing the existing armor for just that reason. The only reason the Glads armor was redone in Prophesies was because it was identical to the 1.5k set.

What would be nice is if they actually did have some "endgame" armors added.. ala Factions where you end up in an area only after fighting the last boss and putting a new "original" set for each class there. I think perhaps that would satisfy most.

As I said though.. personally I tend to mix match almost every set I use on any character to come up with something I actually like as a whole. So my personal request would be to allow us to put any set of ascended armor in the Hom, regardless of which actual set the individual parts come from originally.

CHunterX

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

/signed
But look at it this way, you don't have to grind for hours on end to get the gold to buy the armors! They removed that element of grinding, by making no one want the armors, so they could make way for their new element of grinding: the titles to even see the armor crafters! (I do, however, LOVE the glasses.)

I agree with some of the posters earlier in the thread. The scenery is top-notch, and blows every other campaign out of the water. Nightfall was hideous, its nice to see that at least some of the art department isn't half-assing it.

EDIT: Just saw the Hero armors for the first time in a thread linked from here. God damn... If we got anything near to that on actual characters, I think everyone would be happy. I haven't seen a single class of the elite Hero armor I haven't liked.

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

Get the GW:Factions team to make a new set for each profession.
The factions armour sets totally rock.
Factions is my favourite campaign for armour.

Omniclasm

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guild Hall

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by boko
/notsigned

Instead of complaining, and making a petition for changing the armor, how about people try to be helpful instead of just whining? Instead of changing, how about adding new armor skins?

Submit your own designs and help Anet make something "original" coz apparently, the armor that they make is not good enough... btw, love the new ranger armor...

I would love to see other people's designs coz apparently it is very easy to be original. And it would be nice to have see armor made by the fans. Comeon, i am sure there are loads of people with lots of imagination!

Side-note : Loved those weapons designed by fans! And I present....



Magma Armor

Aint She Fancy

Aint She Fancy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

The Incuebation [iNc]

Mo/

Yeah, I agree, some of the reskins are pretty bad, but that just cuts down the grind I have to do to get them.

Some of the armor I REALLY like, like the female ranger Norn...and the whole spectacle thing made me giggle.

I really don't care if they change it or not, because I'm the kind of person where if I don't like the armor, I don't get it.

And I do not feel cheated on the money my husband and I spent on GWEN. There is so much more to the game than the armor IMHO, and I'm out there enjoying it, while grinding my Norn and Asura titles for the armor that I do like.

I Is Special

I Is Special

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

NJ

To Gain Extra Mobility We Play [NUDE]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by KingKryton
excuse the poor quality





GJ anet, we know you ate your brain food when you created THOSE masterpieces!

Paying $50 for 1/4 the content and reskinned armors is Bull Sh!t.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
Maybe Anet needs to add "Elite" versions of these already expensive armors? Agreed. When I saw these armors I was like "oh lol these are the 1.5k each armors, eh? No biggie", and then they ended up being the "prestige" sets...

So as it stands, they make good cheap armor. Not elite.

Gattocheese

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

New Mexico

GWEN

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omniclasm
And I present....



Magma Armor nice job trying to photoshop your elite sunspear armor there, but lets keep this forum real here plz.

Omniclasm

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guild Hall

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gattocheese
nice job trying to photoshop your elite sunspear armor there, but lets keep this forum real here plz. You forgot to read the quote in my post? You win.

I Is Special

I Is Special

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

NJ

To Gain Extra Mobility We Play [NUDE]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gattocheese
nice job trying to photoshop your elite sunspear armor there, but lets keep this forum real here plz. You fail.

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

So, I was gonna spend my cash on a GW:EN armor set for my ele.. until I saw them.. so I am gonna go with luxon 15k now



VS



Hmm...

Fr_3_aK

Fr_3_aK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Australia

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gattocheese
nice job trying to photoshop your elite sunspear armor there, but lets keep this forum real here plz. Come on anet give this man a job, he demonstrates the same lvl of skill your current armor "designers" have

Mangione

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

/signed

Make new models, not just reskins...

Rhys

Rhys

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

MA

D/W

I don't really mind that much but yes, I was underwhelmed by the armor (due to a nostalgic feeling?). It's quite suprising if anything, because Anet have had a good track record with unique armor sets.

evilkingsky

evilkingsky

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

California

Resurrect Me [Help]

N/Mo

/signed, add new armor sets..... the new hero ones look awesome. They put player armor to shame. Overall GW:EN is a great game though, this is the only disappointment to me.

Geko

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

/signed... gwen sets = crap

Dorvan919

Dorvan919

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

My chair

Droknars Arena Dogs [DAD]

D/

Im really dissapointed with the GWEN armor now. the derv armor looks exactly the same as all the other ones like derv monument armor looks like primeval. the warrior monument armor looks like templar armor with primeval gloves.

Ahiko

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

Guildless D;

Mo/


Asuran Armor = Krytan Armor


Monument Armor = Censor/15k Judge Armor chest, Shing Jea legs


Dwarven Armor = Woven/15k Woven chest, Canthan/15k Canthan legs

The Monk GWEN sets are probably the most reskinned of all the professions, minus the Norn armor. You almost never see people (other than bots[lol if they haven't been wiped out yet] or non-main Monks) running around Prophecies with Censor or Krytan armor.. I don't understand why they'd want to reskin them in GWEN.

As for all Monk tattoo armor being reskinned, the Labyrinthine set is probably the only nice one. (Who actually looks at the armor past the coconut bra and the loin cloth to see the tattoo design?) At least in the Labyrinthine set they gave the girl a skirt (the guy too, lol) instead of a coconut bra and a loin cloth. x_x I'll stick with Labyrinthine for now since Obsidian armor's design isn't enough for me to want to farm 1mil+ to get it..

I might end up just seeing how Dwarven armor and the Asuran glasses work together, but the little flame designs are keeping me away. I'll keep farming to earn the titles and hope that ANet comes out with new sets. :]

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

Im sticking with the fluffy armor its soo cool

Roguey000

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

D/Mo

/signed .. disappointed with the choice of armour. I thought GW:EN would offer my dervish a different armour mix than boob-tube, long skirt etc. Maybe a mini or trousers etc. Rather than reskin armours, offer more choice in designs (which would allow us to mix more),

Ahiko

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

Guildless D;

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmithyBen
Im sticking with the fluffy armor its soo cool Yeah, that might be the other armor I'll work on, but I think it'd be funny to wear it in the Ring of Fire Islands, hehe. (I go there to help ppl on the mish when I'm bored.. x_x)

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

/signed
Vanguard = Arms from Rouge 15k, legs from Courtly 1k, Hose from 15k canthan.
Asuran = Reskinned 15k Noble.. You can look at the skirt and it's all clear.
Norn = Reskin of 1k Kurzick. The skirt, the top is unique.
Dwarven = 1k Kurzick too, some parts are unique.
Too many reskins for Mesmer too -.-
edit: No, wait, just noticed. The top of Norn is a reskined Ancient... Damn you, A.net, even I can tell where and what was reskinned -.-

bart

bart

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

I think Jeff should lure more designers from Blizzard or if they want to go the cheap way, sub the artwork to design companies in South East Asia where ppl work for dirt cheap. The salary of 1 highly paid designer working on reskinning can be used to pay 5 Asian designers.

Squirl

Squirl

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Slayers Players

A/N

Sins reskins are almost just as bad.







The Dwarven set did modify the shoulder blades shown on the Kurzick body but you can definitely tell that that's what it's a reskin of.

Nightfall only gave Sins two new armors, not ones I particularly liked but at least they were original. I'd prefer 20 new sets that are actually new over 40 sets with a majority of reskins thrown in. The Norn armor for Sins though does look like it is an original model.

Ahiko

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

Guildless D;

Mo/

I really like the look of the Dwarven set even if it is a reskin. D: Looks really nice... but they copied all the way down to the dagger on the waist of her skirt! xD

Crash Teh Almeighty

Crash Teh Almeighty

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Netherlands

W/

I personally feel really sorry for Anet, most of the armors might be a sucky reskin (i love the dragon gloves and male dwarf warr armor). but seriously, instead of wining about it and making Anet feel bad because the reskins are bad and such, give them suggestions, seriously, i think Anet is like almost crying, if not i am because i feel so sorry for them, and i might sound gay now, but i aint, this is just too pathetic that everyone is bitching about Anet.

ForgeWhelp

ForgeWhelp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

TGW

N/Mo

I don't really care, but I was underwhelmed with the new female Ele armor. I like amny others, but most of the female ele stank. Glad to see the male ele is finally getting some armor worth having.

Farcry Deathblade

Farcry Deathblade

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/Me

so....why haven't we gotten a response from anet yet?