Petition: Re-Skin Endgame Armor

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I agree that Anet made a poor decision with some of the armor.

I disagree it's a "half-ass" game. You can tell a lot of work went into this game, from the Heroes, to the skills, to the graphics, to the sound, to the voice work.

I can only think that Anet purposely did reskins to offer people armor from campaigns they do not have.

However, I agree that for those of use with all campaigns, there should be at least one set for each profession that is completely new. (like the Norn Ranger, Ritualist or Dervish for example).

Your right that they didn't do themselves any favors my not having really unique Warrior or Monk armor. We should have a poll. What armors are the best? What are the worst?

What profession made out the best? Which got screwed? That way we at least know where everyone stands, for all we know, people could be all talkign about different armors, so it sounds like all of them suck, when in fact, it could be less than half...

A lot of work did go into the game.

They also cut corners and half-assed some very in-your-face parts of the game, namely the armor crafters and copy-paste dungeon levels. Integrating previous work into new content is expected, and a vital part of putting out lots of content without incurring crazy costs. Incorporating old textures and models in ways that aren't obvious recycles at a glance takes a lot of talent, but is awesome when done right.

Low quality hackjobs on your armor models is a monumental failure on the part of your art management. If there is one set of models and textures that you want to be at the highest possible quality, it is those. A big part of the game for many players is avatar building and dressing up their character. Player armor models aren't one or two use models that get overlooked over the course of gameplay. They are heavily scrutinized and talked about models, whose main purpose is to occupy the very center of a player's screen 99% of the time.

When the graphics used to represent *your customers* look like rushed, slapped together rehashes, but the graphics used to represent their followers are gorgeous, displaying a lot of care and talent, it implies only one thing - the person in charge of allocating art resources failed spectacularly at understanding their product.

lol if you have not seen post #22 (kingkryton) on page 2, that is a really humorous way to look at this problem. kurzick kurzick, luxon luxon...gg.
it is really funny to see someone else feels the way i do about armor and has actually posted pictures to prove a point.

i also will agree with the skins on the endgame items. esPECIALLY the focus items. the image of the focus item looks slightly different than what i used my key on -.- (so this mistake forces me to take another char thru the game and get the axe instead, that is if the axe looks exactly like what it looks like in the picture, lmfao!)

but unfortunately, i take both sides to this issue.

true, a lot of the stuff is reskinned and seems to "lack thought," but we also have to remember that the deldrimor armor is not exactly endgame armor and should not be flashy, as endgame armor might be. the location of the armor is found at the end of the game, yes, as the dwarves are pretty much the entire story, BUT it is armor to look more like what a dwarf may look like if he/(she?) were "profession specific" in human form.

yes, i think it needs to all look a little more dwarf-ish, or unique i see nothing dwarf radiating from the female ele other than "15k elite air top and canthan mini skirt"...and hydro boots...

primeval warrior armor was a step in the right direction, and i do think this direction should have been the path to tread the entire time.

/signed/agreed, whatever.

In my opinion, Anet simply made a bad choice when choosing to reskin so many armor sets. Many people had very high expectations for GW:EN, it being the last installment to the Guild Wars 1 franchise, and many of those expectations of were met as well. People received many remarkably made landscapes to venture through, new dungeons to battle in, and chances to get to know many of the races making appearances in Guild Wars 2. People truly did receive a lot from this game, but many expectations which people held for this game were simply not met. Armors is one of those failed achievements by Anet in the minds of many, and this is very understandable. So many armors being reskinned is a vast disappointment. Many people were expecting originality, and new "need to get" armors from Anet, but I'm sure no one would have expected Anet deciding to reskin so many armor designs. I for one was expecting more from Anet as well. They have so much creative potential and it is wasted on reskinning. If Anet truly wanted to keep Guild Wars fans in awe of GW:EN till the release of Guild Wars 2, adding new armor skins would have been one more step taken forward to achieving that. When I first went to GW:EN I was amazed, the detail put into so many landscapes was amazing, but what seems to be lack of effort or ingenuity that started to appear throughout a few parts of the game was a disappointment. The title grind is something I truly hate. The reason why I liked Guild Wars so much in its' early days was due to the lack of grind it possessed, but it is becoming a much more reoccurring theme throughout the game. I hoped the armors would be amazing, but they really just turned out to be lack luster. The end game weapons gave me the same feeling. Most of them were just reskins reused and reused throughout multiple items.

Overall, I still do like GW:EN, much of it was remarkable; the story was great and I do really like the landscapes, but the direction Guild Wars is starting to go as a whole is a large disappointment. It is going slowly from fun and many creative aspects throughout the game to grind and a growing use of old skins. I do believe it's okay to reuse old skins, it is necessary if we expect to get expansions in a reasonable amount of time, but some new skins should make appearances as well. And as much as I would like to see some truly new armor skins added to the game now it is a unrealistic request. I do not think Anet will just drop everything to make new armors for GW:EN because people were disappointed with the current ones available. In respects to the way the game is going as a whole, hopefully the good parts of Guild Wars will stay and many of the dull and disappointing parts of the game will go away with the coming Guild Wars 2.

When I saw it advertised as 40 *New* Armor Sets, I thought "Great; I don't like most of the assassin armor, so maybe I will find something that I like." What we got was mostly reskins with the same blades and knives sticking out all over. For you folks who like blades and knives, that's A-ok; enjoy! There's just no variety in terms of sets lacking pointy things protruding from limbs or other locations. There aren't any. It's too bad we can't opt to buy the same version of an armor, without the Ginsu Knives on the shoulders.

I would not have minded if one or two sets from each profession were reskins inclusive of combining parts from one or more other sets. That is to be expected.

I read the link to Gaile's comments about it being "too hard" to design new armor models. Respectfully, isn't that what we're paying them to do? If the new heroes got nice armor, why didn't the bell didn't go off that - just maybe - the players would want something that appeared similar to that?

There are some very nice artistic elements (such as the landscapes), but I don't think nearly enough of that "extra time" (from not having to design another starter area) went into armor development for the players. Considering your character is the one thing you will always see, no matter where you go in the game, that's a pretty big "Oops...".

If the art department is having their own "writer's block", the company should hire a few folks to do some piecework, to spark things up.


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The (female) Dwarven Monk armor doesn't look so bad after getting it... It's actually pretty nice. I did spend a fortune to dye it though, lol.

But I still won't buy the other sets except maybe the Asura glasses. Just the glasses.

I don't think you people understand the focus of Guild Wars.

This game was never about the players, it was about all the cool NPCs. Think about it. Duke Barradin swags around in his pretty villa pre-Ascalon in an armor fit for a God, that you warriors will never get your hands on. Olias' Primeval armor set makes your Vabbian look like a joke. The list goes on...

In Nightfall you had to defeat a monster one hundred feet tall just so that Kormir could freeload along and take all the credit.

The NPCs have personalities. They have love affairs, they have interests. We are only players, so we have no personalities. People with no personalities have no need for pretty armor

It's so much easier now that I've figured it out!

Ok, i posted this again and again and again. Alot of people need to get this through their head. This is supposed to be "END GAME!" armor. It was announced end game armor, it was announced to better the content for your lvl 20 characters. Yes some of the reskins are beautiful, some of them dont even match each other at all (ex Warrior Monument Armor). None the less they are beautiful reskins of the armor. But expecting to wear high end 15k armor when gwen comes out, and then getting something totally different is very dissappointing. I will knock the anet team for doing a poor job on the armor, not because they didnt reskin it beautifully, because they also mixed and try to match other parts of armor that dont fit well. Because they didnt give us the time of day to create something new. You cant say that the armor is bound by rules and cant create any more, hero armor is amazing and use the same models as us.