Petition: Re-Skin Endgame Armor

Fr_3_aK

Fr_3_aK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Australia

Consider all armors in EOTN to be "end game". You cant get them normally even if u do all the quests.

So after you beat the game (and are in the "end game") you think "ok, i'll get armors now. Ok, u have to grind for them. Hmm i'll look them up before i invest 12 hours of mindless grinding. Ok, they're all reskins... "

- RQ GWs and bitch on a forum about how shit it is cuz it's not worth playing -

Scary

Scary

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Uhmmmm??

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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Why cant they just make more hard to get Collector armors.
Wouldnt it be nice if there where full armors like the Chaos Gloves
or Destroyer Gauntlets or a dread mask.
And yes I agree that end game armor should be something special.

Sure there must be some basic armors but it would make the game a lot
more interesting if there where all kind of hard to get special skin armors all around the GW world.

Chiiya-Chiiya

Chiiya-Chiiya

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

A/

Yeah, the armours are pretty disappointing.

Mai

Mai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Needs Moar[DESU]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Day and Night
I'm not sure if this is 100% true as i don't play WoW, but...
i heard that World of Warcraft players don't like how some of WoW's high end armour look. Did they try a petitions to Blizzard? Has Blizzard change that armour? As i said i'm not 100% sure, but i think the answer is No. So even in game with monthly fee there were no such kind of changes? Yes it's happened, two classes had it changed,Hunter class and Paladin class end game armor to be exact. Players hated it and the vast majority of the players wanted it to be changed so a couple months later blizzard had redesigned it.

Curar Partida

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Halfway To Hell

Mo/

People jsut arn't getting it. This is an Expansion. Not a new campaign. Its the same old Tyria just new areas. There is no need for completly different looking armors. Its the same place. Im happy enough that they if put new armor in. Stop complaining about the reskins and enjoy them.

Factions armor looked completely different, right? Welll it was a different location with different culture. As with NF. Tyria is still the same continent area as Tyria. Once again, EXPANSION, not new game. GW2 will have way better seeing as its many years later. And expect a new part of the territories with different cultures.

CHunterX

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
The most you can say is, IMO, it sucks or its ugly. Which is fine.
Its not just me, its a great deal of people (or possibly a great deal of the same people, I haven't bothered to read the entire thread). And I'm not arguing that the Hero armor isn't great looking! It is great looking! Quite the contrary, we players should have gotten that high of quality for at least one set, not some heroes that no one could really give a rats ass of what they are wearing.

Quote: Originally Posted by lyra_song No i get it. Warrior Kurzick base model is used in: Kurzick, Elite Kurzick, Sunspear, Elite Sunpear and Asura. Its repetitive and you get used to seeing that silhouette.

But what if the person who bought GW:EOTN doesnt have Factions OR Nightfall? What then? Thats the thing, I think Areanet expected you to have the other Campaigns. See: Hall of Monuments, Baby Black Moa minipet, Norn Fighting Arena (which includes characters from all games).
Also, people have been running around in these armors regardless of what games you own, you are going to recognize them unless you spend minimal time in towns and with real players.

EDIT: Some more thoughts. I assume there would be less complaining if the armors had a decent requirement to achieve. As it is now, finishing a good majority of the quests for one race isn't nearly enough to even have the rank required to view the armor crafters. So you are forced to grind the title points to see the armor. (Whether this is a bad thing is an argument for another thread/time) I think after the dedication it takes to see the armor crafters, regardless how quickly you can farm the titles up (remember, not even half the players come to this site to look up the "best" farming locations, its going to take most players a lot longer than you or I), all players expected a little more than mismatched sets and reskins.

Also, this goes with the "resuse of armors no one liked"
The sets as it stands now don't even match themselves, I've heard complaints from Elementalists and Rangers for the most part, and could give you the example of the Warrior Monument armor; the top doesn't match the bottom. It looks like Elementalist Dwarven has this problem as well. I'd give you more examples but I'm only looking at the tiny thumbnails on the wiki, and spotting the two worst and viewing those. Running 56k and all.

Quote: Originally Posted by Curar Partida
People jsut arn't getting it. This is an Expansion. Not a new campaign. So the difference between 90% reskins of armor and weapons, and the apparent "copy paste" of dungeons I've been hearing (and lets face it, is a huge part of content for PvE players, which this expansion is geared towards) and 90% unique weapons, armor and area textures is $10?

EDIT AGAIN: (I promise I'll stop eventually)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
Case in point: 15k Aeromancer. It's the favorite set of quite a few, and it's only reskinned Krytan armor. You know, the armor set you can acquire in Pre? Took me awhile to notice it, at least. Which is the point I was trying to get across to lyra. Reskins are fine if you can do them right. 15k Aeromancer is the best, hands down reskin throughout the entire game. Thats how you reskin an armor, not by hashing together mismatched sets and slapping a fresh coat of paint on them.

Scary

Scary

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Uhmmmm??

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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People jsut arn't getting it. This is an Expansion. Not a new campaign. Its the same old Tyria just new areas. There is no need for completly different looking armors. Its the same place. Im happy enough that they if put new armor in. Stop complaining about the reskins and enjoy them. Arnt people just getting it ??? Its you that arnt getting it by mine opinion.

As the game says.. 40 NEW armor sets, the most players who bought GWen
where aspecting al lot more from it than we are getting now.
No, your right it isnt a new campain. But! There is a new story line, there are
new npc's etc. etc. So why not totaly differnt armors.
An as we all know, Arena Net did a great job at the End Game armors in
Nightfall, so they could surely put some more insperation in the armor design
in the expansion that is mented for al tose players that play GuildWars for such a long time.
No I realy dont care if the are extremely hard to get by getting titles.
But if they make it hard to get, let make it wurth al the time you have to
put in to it. Couse if the mijority of players dont like the armors, or when they
aspect more of it, than the expansion itself is half what it should be.

Its not tha case if you need new armor or not, its that those things give
these games that bit of extra to hold on to it.

Zunzun

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curar Partida
People jsut arn't getting it. This is an Expansion. Not a new campaign. Its the same old Tyria just new areas. There is no need for completly different looking armors. Its the same place. Im happy enough that they if put new armor in. Stop complaining about the reskins and enjoy them. GWEN is introducing new races, with totally different cultures. Same place, but not same people. I expected that norn armors look like actual norn armors (those norn are wearing), but they look like many human armors.

And many of the "new" armors are reskins of armors from factions and nightfall.

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scary
Arnt people just getting it ??? Its you that arnt getting it by mine opinion.

As the game says.. 40 NEW armor sets, the most players who bought GWen
where aspecting al lot more from it than we are getting now.
So basically what you are saying is that you expected something (based on nothing) and now you are whining that you didnt get what was never promised. Makes sense...

Quote:
No, your right it isnt a new campain. But! There is a new story line, there are
new npc's etc. etc. So why not totaly differnt armors.
I dont know, maybe they liked this better.

Quote: An as we all know, Arena Net did a great job at the End Game armors in
Nightfall, so they could surely put some more insperation in the armor design
in the expansion that is mented for al tose players that play GuildWars for such a long time. Umm..I have warrior Primeval armor and I am extremely disappointed by it, it looks like crap imho, funny enough I didnt start a petition to change Nightfall endgame armor.

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No I realy dont care if they are extremely hard to get, by getting titles.
But if they make it hard to get, let make it wurth al the time you have to
put in to it. Couse if the mijority of players dont like the armors, or when they
aspect more of it, than the expansion itself is half what it should be. The majority of posters in this topic maybe and thats not even an overwhelming majority, please provide some proof that its the majority of players? Just because people had expectations that werent met doesnt mean the expansion isnt finished..but then, who knows what Anet has planned for the future.
In EVERY chapter before EN there have been crap, mediocre and great looking armors, EN is no exception.

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Its not tha case if you need new armor or not, its that those things give
these games that bit of extra to hold on to it. I've seen 2 armors I've looked in EN...I only liked one in all of Factions, I only liked one in NF. For me, EN is therefore better then the other two.

fripple

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tijger
I've seen 2 armors I've looked in EN...I only liked one in all of Factions, I only liked one in NF. For me, EN is therefore better then the other two. Well, you're a known troll and blind Anet sycophant who can't tolerate anyone who doesn't spend their days blowing the devs, so who gives a shit what you think? Anyone who has it in their heads that there isn't an atypically strong negative response to player character options for this expansion is in denial. Period.

After a certain point anecdotal evidence becomes very hard to refute, and just because Anet are too bloody lazy to actually survey players themselves rather than relying on threads like these for their feedback is not our problem. In fact, the multiple official posts from Anet itself describing the importance of feedback threads should silence anyone who questions the representativeness of online commentary for an ONLINE GAME. This is not some TV show, you idiot. Every single person who plays this game has access to the internet, and a statistically significant number of them do visit online communities and websites devoted to it.

DrD

DrD

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Behind you

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fr_3_aK
They need to REDESIGN all the EOTN armors. They're all shit reskins. If this is the level of quality to expect for GW2, im not buying it. Agreed........

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

I think all Anet needs to do is add 10 unique, new complete sets of end game armor to GWEN and people will be happy.

Yes, this is "only" an expansion. But Anet said that the content would actually be more than a regular chapter, becuase they wouldn't have to spend time on "beginner areas" and new professions. The PvE skills dont have to be balanced as much, so that's less time. Reskin some old monsters and armor, use an existing Prophecy map, and you've saved yourselves some time. All this is acceptable to me: I like GWEN, I think the graphics, skills, Heros, voice-acting are the best ever in the Guild Wars series.

But I just don't get the lack of time spent on the armor. For many, it could just be the most important part of the game. Obviously, Anet spent some serious time working on GWEN, but they couldn't even fullfill their own promise of 40 new sets of armor? (Dwarven is not considered a set, not even by Anet).

I just don't get it. Anet dropped the ball on this one. I can't think of an easier thing that would please people. Just 10 new sets... 9 if they allow Eagle to be in HoM.

I MP I

I MP I

Hustler

Join Date: Nov 2006

in between GW2 servers

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by KingKryton
excuse the poor quality







edit first ones leggings are luxon 1.5 not canthan

This is exactly what I was thinking. Well more plat to blow on some nice new weapons and shields.

Farcry Deathblade

Farcry Deathblade

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curar Partida
Stop complaining about the reskins and enjoy them. How the hell do you enjoy crap???

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by I MP I
This is exactly what I was thinking. Well more plat to blow on some nice new weapons and shields. Besides the face of the helmet, the rest of the Silver Eagle armor is completetly new, even though it does have a similar shape (mainly in the shoulders and skirt) as the 15k Luxon armor.

Curar Partida

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Halfway To Hell

Mo/

Reskinning makes plenty of sense. I mean, I can 8understand clearly how some of you, err most of you, are comlpaining about the armor, but think about for a sec. The continent is the same place, basically Tyria, right? Okay so there jsut reskinned.

I MP I - Well done with that iamge. But you have to admit it looks better in GW:EN than they did from the other other campaigns.

But, i have to agree with the some of the parts about them not being too great looking. I was depressed by the Monk armors. But they look better than most Prophecies ones. And i guessing they skipped the Tat's. But overall they arn't THAT bad of reskins. If it was a completely different region i could understand completely different armors. But, its not. Same place. They just changed them up a little. The Main endgame armors are really should be the different ones.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Farcry Deathblade
How the hell do you enjoy crap??? If ya dont like them then dont buy them? Then you dont have to worry about trying to enjoy them.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Farcry Deathblade
How the hell do you enjoy crap??? Probably for the same reason some people like 15k Monk Kurzick (yuck).

Its called personal preference and tastes.

EinherjarMx

EinherjarMx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Mexico

La Legion del Dragon [LD]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
In the end, all I really can say is that I'm sorry to hear that some of you don't like the new armors, tell you that the dev team is actually quite proud of the GW:EN armor sets, and let you know that there are absolutely no plans to rework any existing armor in the game --Gaile taken from here: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_...y/GW:EN_Armors

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

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Well of course the dev team likes it. They slapped some new textures on existing meshes and called it a day. Nice job if you can get it, I guess. :-\

If every class had just one new set of armor, not a tired-looking reskin, well... it'd still be 1/4 of what we were promised, but I'd be happy enough with that. The sad offerings in GW:EN just look like the dev team phoned in one of the areas of the game with the highest demand in variation and quality. Ensign put it best:

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Low quality hackjobs on your armor models is a monumental failure on the part of your art management. If there is one set of models and textures that you want to be at the highest possible quality, it is those. A big part of the game for many players is avatar building and dressing up their character. Player armor models aren't one or two use models that get overlooked over the course of gameplay. They are heavily scrutinized and talked about models, whose main purpose is to occupy the very center of a player's screen 99% of the time.

When the graphics used to represent *your customers* look like rushed, slapped together rehashes, but the graphics used to represent their followers are gorgeous, displaying a lot of care and talent, it implies only one thing - the person in charge of allocating art resources failed spectacularly at understanding their product.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by EinherjarMx

Gattocheese

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

New Mexico

GWEN

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curar Partida
Reskinning makes plenty of sense. I mean, I can 8understand clearly how some of you, err most of you, are comlpaining about the armor, but think about for a sec. The continent is the same place, basically Tyria, right? Okay so there jsut reskinned.

I MP I - Well done with that iamge. But you have to admit it looks better in GW:EN than they did from the other other campaigns.

But, i have to agree with the some of the parts about them not being too great looking. I was depressed by the Monk armors. But they look better than most Prophecies ones. And i guessing they skipped the Tat's. But overall they arn't THAT bad of reskins. If it was a completely different region i could understand completely different armors. But, its not. Same place. They just changed them up a little. The Main endgame armors are really should be the different ones.


If ya dont like them then dont buy them? Then you dont have to worry about trying to enjoy them. So your saying the reskins of Faction and Nightfall armors in GWEN make sense because its in Tyria? Your saying the Norn or Asura are not new races offering new items and armors? Dont give me that crap that Gaile Grey does. She said it makes sense because its the "lore of the land". Thats utter bull crap. She has to make everything sound all nice and cheery. Sure some of the reskins are beautiful looking, even better than the original, but why would i want to work or grind my butt off for reused armor. Even alot of the armor is mix and not match like the warrior Monument armor.

Everyone who is enjoying the reskinned armor, more power to you. But you are few and far between. My entire alliance, and other guilds and alliances i know of, plus the majority of the guild wars guru community are greatly dissappointed. Reskinning armor and weapons makes no sense because it limits or eliminates alot of the content after beating the game and beating the dungeons.

And my opinion about the dissappointing armor is a majority view. Yes tastes are different when it comes to armor, but when ALL the armor is crappy reskins, everyones tastes get stale.

TabascoSauce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Virginia, US

TFgt

W/Me

Okay, this is not normal for me to "defend" ANet. I have been very critical of them about nerf after nerf, specifically the Soul Reaping nerf. I am bashing them up and down over in the Grind threads for all the grind in GW:EN. I firmly believe that without the voice of criticism that we find in the forums, this game would not be what it is. Without the 2800 post longest thread ever in Guru history about the SR nerf, we would still be at the nerf hell of once every 5 seconds. Grenth unionized, great. No, criticism is good.

But for pete's sake, you folks are talking about art. If I got a book of Van Gogh and showed them all to you, then you're not going to like all of them! In fact, look at any artist and you'll see that their styles change as time goes by, and that early Van Gogh is not like later Van Gogh!

It looks like the style of art direction in ANet has changed. Who knows, maybe someone got hired or fired for GW:EN, and they have different tastes. I'll wager money that the art staff at ANet are not a bunch of total california surfer hippie slackers, well maybe they are but they do good work - look at the landscapes and other art in the game, its nice!

I'd think that armor is entirely cosmetic, and if anything would get players such as yourselves fired up it is gameplay! Why are you forming a pitchfork mob about art, when the game has gameplay flaws like excessive grind?

Just my 2 copper.

Thanks!
TabascoSauce

Hyper Cutter

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by genofreek
If every class had just one new set of armor, not a tired-looking reskin, well... it'd still be 1/4 of what we were promised, but I'd be happy enough with that. What about Norn armor? With the possible exception of the mesmer armor, it looks new to me...

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo



Personally need to get this one....Ancient + FoW = <3

I really think the petition should be this:

DROP THE COST AND TITLE REQUIREMENT OF THESE ARMORS ANET

Its not worth 10k + materials + the grind. Armors thats easier to get looks much much better.

CHunterX

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

I find it a tad depressing that they reskinned parts of THE Elite armor (FoW) for Ranger. It cheapens the idea of FoW armor for me, at least, if not for anyone who bought it. Why even buy FoW leggings and hands for Ranger now, when you can get a poorly done reskin which looks basically the same, for 1/8th of the cost? Could it be that they found no players actually bought FoW for Rangers, because it was so ugly to begin with?

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHunterX
I find it a tad depressing that they reskinned parts of THE Elite armor (FoW) for Ranger. It cheapens the idea of FoW armor for me, at least, if not for anyone who bought it. Why even buy FoW leggings and hands for Ranger now, when you can get a poorly done reskin which looks basically the same, for 1/8th of the cost? Could it be that they found no players actually bought FoW for Rangers, because it was so ugly to begin with? Well I was actually going to make this combo with FoW + Ancient, but this set matches together better ;P

I actually like Ranger FoW a lot, its very "soldier-like".

Curar Partida

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Halfway To Hell

Mo/

@ Gattocheese - As for you saying that over half the community is dissappointed with the armor, your saying you know the entire community? Or are u jsut saying half the people you know dont like it? Did u buy the game just toget new armor? I didn't think so. But, I can bet your still gonna get some of the armor. Can't wait till hear how u hate GW2.

@ Tobasco Sauce - I agree with what your saying about the change in art. They did hire new people to work on the creation of GW:EN as they did for GW2.

Gattocheese

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

New Mexico

GWEN

I myself will probaly be done with Guild Wars. Theres only one title i want and no armor worth a dang right now imo. There is no end game content in GWEN. Nothing left for me to do. Yes i love to collect or work for armor and weapons for my character. Its a shame that GWEN didnt have what it promised. I wish Anet and Gaile Gray would realize that the majority of the GW community is disappointed in the armors, and not a small amount. Maybe they do, and not wish to acknowledge it because they have our money. Maybe they cant add additional armor to please everyone because thier team is working on GW2. Who knows. I believe GWEN is worth maybe $20. I hope people who have not bought GWEN have read the thousands of posts of upset or disappointed people.

Gattocheese

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

New Mexico

GWEN

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curar Partida
@ Gattocheese - As for you saying that over half the community is dissappointed with the armor, your saying you know the entire community? Or are u jsut saying half the people you know dont like it? Did u buy the game just toget new armor? I didn't think so. But, I can bet your still gonna get some of the armor. Can't wait till hear how u hate GW2.

@ Tobasco Sauce - I agree with what your saying about the change in art. They did hire new people to work on the creation of GW:EN as they did for GW2. Well about an alliance full of people, thats 100 members, for 10 guilds, plus every outside guild i talk to is disappointed. Its not half, its the majority. I do not have plans on buying armor, nor GW2 at the moment. I know some people like the armors, and like i said, more power to them. ENJOY! But when you read the post Gaile started herself, to the this post, to other posts about the price of GWEN, EVERYTHING! You know something is wrong. I dont know the entire community, but i can say the voice is clear, everyone had high hopes, and most people were disappointed in the final product.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curar Partida
@ Gattocheese - As for you saying that over half the community is dissappointed with the armor, your saying you know the entire community? Or are u jsut saying half the people you know dont like it? Did u buy the game just toget new armor? I didn't think so. But, I can bet your still gonna get some of the armor. Can't wait till hear how u hate GW2.
I've never seen this much of an uproar about an issue like this. We were fine with Factions, fine with NF, but this...Even some of the most respectable people - who's opinions have always been logical and that I've always admired - agree that these armors suck. That says something.

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Originally Posted by lyra_song
Personally need to get this one....Ancient + FoW = <3 Reskinning FoW is FTL x 10^103201958 power. Like seriouzly.


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Originally Posted by Glitched
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:A...ArmorFront.jpg Just like to say that the Asuran armor, reskin of the 15k Imperial for the Assassin, is probably the best armor makeover they've done. This is the only set that I truly have my heart set on at the moment.

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

@ ANET

Fire whoever made those armors seriously. My HERO's should NEVER EVER Look better than me the real HERO. Also reduce the cost of those pathetic skins to 1.5k plus materials. They are not worth the platinum or grid required for them.

Furthermore WHERE ARE MY GREEK ROMAN TYPE PARAGON HELMS! The community has only been looking / requesting these since Nightfall release almost one year ago. This was the last chapter of GW1..

What a way to go down in flames ANET.

Cherng Butter

Cherng Butter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Maryland

The Mirror Of Reason [SNOW]

E/Mo

At least I don't have to title grind for armor that I don't want...though I'd much rather work towards a nice set of armor I CAN blow all my cash on...

Canthan is great, Elite Kurzick is great, Vabbian and Primevil is great (on female warrior, I mean). There are 5 armor sets for warriors in GW:EN, and all of them are pretty dull / downright icky.

I awknowledge that there is little to no chance of REPLACING the already existing armors many people are wearing; there'd be a lot of backlash from the...few...I'm assuming, that like their current armor, but making NEW armor sets would make lots of people happy? Just a thought.

If not, I could always get run to Grotto and get 15k Glads, haha...

EDIT:
And the hero armor for the Assassin hero looks [email protected], it's friggin AWESOME. If the sins had that armor, I might actually consider making one!

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
I've never seen this much of an uproar about an issue like this. We were fine with Factions, fine with NF, but this...Even some of the most respectable people - who's opinions have always been logical and that I've always admired - agree that these armors suck. That says something.

Exactly. The fact is, even if we can't get a poll or truely know the "majority of the community" (just because its IMPOSSIBLE) doesn't mean we can't get a general concensus from what we see here on the forums.
When even the dedicated fanboys like me (I'll admit it) start to get dishearted, you know a.net did something wrong.

Lucien Beaumont

Lucien Beaumont

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Dominus Mysteri

Me/N

These armors are so obviously lazy cop-outs. The spin Gaile has been putting on this situation to make it seem like it is anything less than a lazy cop-out is sickening to me as a customer.

Gattocheese

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

New Mexico

GWEN

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucien Beaumont
These armors are so obviously lazy cop-outs. The spin Gaile has been putting on this situation to make it seem like it is anything less than a lazy cop-out is sickening to me as a customer. I totally agree! Gaile started one of the first threads asking what people thought about the reskinned armor, and she got so much negative feed back she tried stopping the thread. Then she had the nerve to say its a great job and that they prided them selfs on it. Why did she even start a thread about it if there was nothing wrong with it?

Sorry was thinking of something different. It was actually Gailes talk thread and she didnt actually start the conversation.

CHunterX

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter
What about Norn armor? With the possible exception of the mesmer armor, it looks new to me... Yes, actually it does appear that Norn, for the most part, is not reskins, (or at least well done ones) although some of the armor is a tad boring. (Assasin female in particular).

Funny, wasn't Norn armor the only one available during the preview? Catch my drift?

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHunterX
Funny, wasn't Norn armor the only one available during the preview? Catch my drift? The armors have been leaked since around July. People thought they were fakes.

Even if Anet didnt allow us to have armors during the previews, those pics were out.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

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Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

r1- cosumables
r2-weapons
r3- armors.

All i ask.