They definately weren't the ones who worked on armors in previous GW campagins, and haven't done the models they tried to reskin - that's why about ~80% armors in GW:EN look like home-made amateur texmods...
this perfectly sums it up:
Petition: Re-Skin Endgame Armor
Yawgmoth
/signed for Anet firing those lame 'artists' that did those horrible reskins.
They definately weren't the ones who worked on armors in previous GW campagins, and haven't done the models they tried to reskin - that's why about ~80% armors in GW:EN look like home-made amateur texmods...
this perfectly sums it up:
They definately weren't the ones who worked on armors in previous GW campagins, and haven't done the models they tried to reskin - that's why about ~80% armors in GW:EN look like home-made amateur texmods...
this perfectly sums it up:
IslandHermet
FOR ALL THOSE PEOPLE DEFENDING ANET READ
why do you defend them it seems like you think their normal people with other jobs and are working on GW in their spare time(the argument that its hard or takes time or whatever to defend them is just plain dumb)
IT DOES NOT MATTER IF IT IS HARD THEIR GETTING PAID FOR THIS ITS THEIR JOBS PAYCHECK HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PUT IT THEIR (GETTIN PAID TO MAKE NEW CONTENT WHICH MEANS NO HALF ASSING ALLOWD)
I would understand if they were doing this on side time as a hobby but their not.
Their is a difference from hobby gameing like modding and what not but when your getting paid to release new content than it better be new if it is not than i will not pay you thats how the world works.
You dont pay a someone to remoddle your kitchen if all they do is move your table do you???????????????
dont think i put enough ????? DONT TRY TO DEFEND THEM ANY MORE ANET PAYS PEOPLE FOR THAT AS WELL
why do you defend them it seems like you think their normal people with other jobs and are working on GW in their spare time(the argument that its hard or takes time or whatever to defend them is just plain dumb)
IT DOES NOT MATTER IF IT IS HARD THEIR GETTING PAID FOR THIS ITS THEIR JOBS PAYCHECK HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PUT IT THEIR (GETTIN PAID TO MAKE NEW CONTENT WHICH MEANS NO HALF ASSING ALLOWD)
I would understand if they were doing this on side time as a hobby but their not.
Their is a difference from hobby gameing like modding and what not but when your getting paid to release new content than it better be new if it is not than i will not pay you thats how the world works.
You dont pay a someone to remoddle your kitchen if all they do is move your table do you???????????????
dont think i put enough ????? DONT TRY TO DEFEND THEM ANY MORE ANET PAYS PEOPLE FOR THAT AS WELL
lyra_song
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Originally Posted by IslandHermet
FOR ALL THOSE PEOPLE DEFENDING ANET READ
why do you defend them it seems like you think their normal people with other jobs and are working on GW in their spare time(the argument that its hard or takes time or whatever to defend them is just plain dumb)
IT DOES NOT MATTER IF IT IS HARD THEIR GETTING PAID FOR THIS ITS THEIR JOBS PAYCHECK HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PUT IT THEIR (GETTIN PAID TO MAKE NEW CONTENT WHICH MEANS NO HALF ASSING ALLOWD)
I would understand if they were doing this on side time as a hobby but their not.
Their is a difference from hobby gameing like modding and what not but when your getting paid to release new content than it better be new if it is not than i will not pay you thats how the world works.
You dont pay a someone to remoddle your kitchen if all they do is move your table do you???????????????
dont think i put enough ????? DONT TRY TO DEFEND THEM ANY MORE ANET PAYS PEOPLE FOR THAT AS WELL Any sort of meaningful arguments, intelligence or purpose in this thread is absolutely gone.
*eats popcorn and giggles in the corner*
why do you defend them it seems like you think their normal people with other jobs and are working on GW in their spare time(the argument that its hard or takes time or whatever to defend them is just plain dumb)
IT DOES NOT MATTER IF IT IS HARD THEIR GETTING PAID FOR THIS ITS THEIR JOBS PAYCHECK HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PUT IT THEIR (GETTIN PAID TO MAKE NEW CONTENT WHICH MEANS NO HALF ASSING ALLOWD)
I would understand if they were doing this on side time as a hobby but their not.
Their is a difference from hobby gameing like modding and what not but when your getting paid to release new content than it better be new if it is not than i will not pay you thats how the world works.
You dont pay a someone to remoddle your kitchen if all they do is move your table do you???????????????
dont think i put enough ????? DONT TRY TO DEFEND THEM ANY MORE ANET PAYS PEOPLE FOR THAT AS WELL Any sort of meaningful arguments, intelligence or purpose in this thread is absolutely gone.
*eats popcorn and giggles in the corner*
Winterclaw
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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
this perfectly sums it up:
GWEN: $39.99
New Armor: 50plat
Dyes: 4plat
Headache medicine when you realized you got a cheap reskinned suit of armor: $19.95
Seeing Captain Picard's reaction to GWEN: Priceless.
GWEN: $39.99New Armor: 50plat
Dyes: 4plat
Headache medicine when you realized you got a cheap reskinned suit of armor: $19.95
Seeing Captain Picard's reaction to GWEN: Priceless.
Gattocheese
I want this thread to stay alive please. A-net needs to keep hearing how much they screwed up. Also an interview i read a while back said new "sexy dances" and this at ign
"New lighting and AA effects have been built into the game, and it still looks quite pretty, in large part thanks to always impressive art direction. The game will have 40 new armor sets, including an Elementalist set with flaming gloves and a fearsome Assassin set adorned with spikes."
http://pc.ign.com/articles/804/804845p1.html
Did they scrap the new armor and decide to reskin everything? There is no stand alone piece for flaming gloves, nor a ele armor with flaming gloves.
"New lighting and AA effects have been built into the game, and it still looks quite pretty, in large part thanks to always impressive art direction. The game will have 40 new armor sets, including an Elementalist set with flaming gloves and a fearsome Assassin set adorned with spikes."
http://pc.ign.com/articles/804/804845p1.html
Did they scrap the new armor and decide to reskin everything? There is no stand alone piece for flaming gloves, nor a ele armor with flaming gloves.
Kos Luftar
Male Warrior Dwarven armour has got to be the UGLIEST thing in the world.
Nevin
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Originally Posted by Winterclaw
GWEN: $39.99
New Armor: 50plat
Dyes: 4plat
Headache medicine when you realized you got a cheap reskinned suit of armor: $19.95
Seeing Captain Picard's reaction to GWEN: Priceless.
Hahaha I actually smirked to that.
New Armor: 50plat
Dyes: 4plat
Headache medicine when you realized you got a cheap reskinned suit of armor: $19.95
Seeing Captain Picard's reaction to GWEN: Priceless.
Hahaha I actually smirked to that.
A11Eur0
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Originally Posted by natuxatu
I disagree and think it's fine that that some are recycled.. it's just a little expansion and you don't need the armor unless you want it. It's better than nothing... I don't mind have two similar variations.. i still want them... i'll still be happy.. they are different enough. I might have been a little dissapointed but I'm over it already.
You dont need it unless you want it? Better than nothing? What kind of fanboi service is this? 40 NEW armor sets were advertised...I think we got 3. The rest...blah reskins and blah EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE ORIGINAL.
Since some of the GWEN reskins look better than the originals, I'd ask to remodel the originals, or make these GWEN armors available as the originals, and remodel the EOTN armors.
Since some of the GWEN reskins look better than the originals, I'd ask to remodel the originals, or make these GWEN armors available as the originals, and remodel the EOTN armors.
gabazieute
The flaming gloves are probably the magma ones that you can get in exchange of 250 destroyer cores (if I remember correctly)
I really doubt there gonna be any change in the armor design.
It's obvious the whole creative team is working on GW² now (after all they've armors to do for 5 different races instead of 1 ).
Unless * evil grin * it's a master plan like this one :
1/ Release GW:EN with cheap reskinned armors
2/ Make statement that those armors are fine and final as you're busy with GW².
3/ 8-9 months after add "Guild Wars : Armor Pack" to Online Store
"Get exclusive new armors for you characters at [insert name of a mysterious grotto added to game 2 weeks before GW:AP press release] for just $14.95 !
[insert a tiny bit of lore here]
[insert Pack description here]
I really doubt there gonna be any change in the armor design.
It's obvious the whole creative team is working on GW² now (after all they've armors to do for 5 different races instead of 1 ).
Unless * evil grin * it's a master plan like this one :
1/ Release GW:EN with cheap reskinned armors
2/ Make statement that those armors are fine and final as you're busy with GW².
3/ 8-9 months after add "Guild Wars : Armor Pack" to Online Store
"Get exclusive new armors for you characters at [insert name of a mysterious grotto added to game 2 weeks before GW:AP press release] for just $14.95 !
[insert a tiny bit of lore here]
[insert Pack description here]
A11Eur0
If that happens I'm deleting all characters including all gold and inventory, uninstalling and selling the game(s) to someone. I'll move on to something else.
X Cytherea X
the endgame assassin armor is so RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing ugly
genofreek
Fork your goods over to me before you to, A11! XD
Icey
I have been playing GW since the beta a couple years ago, and was VERY impressed by GW back then. I still remember how happy and exciting everyone was when creating PUG's for the rotscale mission, and how good it felt when we defeated him. Everything about that game back then was awesome!
I don't know what happened, maybe people left or lost talent, but GW:EN is a SERIOUS let-down and disappointment. It's obvious that the only people that like it are the extreme fanboys.
I TOTALLY hate how UGLY and plain the weapons look, specially the end game (green item) weapons... If those are the end-game weapons, they should have put some nice skins on them to make them worth carrying and to show off etc. I would much rather carry other nice looking weapons than those end game pos's.....I hate almost everything about GW:EN, the grind required to talk to NPC's, having to talk to NPC's to begin the grind (I noticed how many people forgot to talk to the NPC's after trying to grind during quests etc, having to switch titles back and forth, LONG ANNOYING CONFUSING quests that are EASILY distracted and sidetracked...just to name a few disasters......I seriously hope GW2 is not like this or else I'll look for another game to spend my free time with...an actual enjoyable game, GW:EN seems more like hard boring work than fun....
I don't know what happened, maybe people left or lost talent, but GW:EN is a SERIOUS let-down and disappointment. It's obvious that the only people that like it are the extreme fanboys.
I TOTALLY hate how UGLY and plain the weapons look, specially the end game (green item) weapons... If those are the end-game weapons, they should have put some nice skins on them to make them worth carrying and to show off etc. I would much rather carry other nice looking weapons than those end game pos's.....I hate almost everything about GW:EN, the grind required to talk to NPC's, having to talk to NPC's to begin the grind (I noticed how many people forgot to talk to the NPC's after trying to grind during quests etc, having to switch titles back and forth, LONG ANNOYING CONFUSING quests that are EASILY distracted and sidetracked...just to name a few disasters......I seriously hope GW2 is not like this or else I'll look for another game to spend my free time with...an actual enjoyable game, GW:EN seems more like hard boring work than fun....
Yawgmoth
For some reason they went Cheap-Way on a couple things in GW:EN and the armors are by far the most visible example. There's NOTHING else in any GW release that stands out that much from the quality standards as those miserable reskinned armors...
GW:EN has top quality level design, lots of new great models and skins of mobs, npcs, items, heroes with their new armors... the artists did a great job and exceeded what previous campagins offered. But who did the armors? Certainly not the real artists that did all of the other awesome stuff.
Remember this site? :: http://s183.photobucket.com/albums/x...ens/?start=all
The infamous armors screens from a private server, which look so bad that nobody believed they're real. And now we know they're 100% real, looking like an amateur texmod, crappier than anything else in GW but we just bought them as "new"!
Anet! We are not blind! Do not ever do such lame and cheap tricks on us.
GW:EN has top quality level design, lots of new great models and skins of mobs, npcs, items, heroes with their new armors... the artists did a great job and exceeded what previous campagins offered. But who did the armors? Certainly not the real artists that did all of the other awesome stuff.
Remember this site? :: http://s183.photobucket.com/albums/x...ens/?start=all
The infamous armors screens from a private server, which look so bad that nobody believed they're real. And now we know they're 100% real, looking like an amateur texmod, crappier than anything else in GW but we just bought them as "new"!
Anet! We are not blind! Do not ever do such lame and cheap tricks on us.
Talonz
I detest almost all the Dervish armor. Was hoping for something at LEAST as nice as Elite Sunspear of Vabbian Dervish armor. Nothing in GWEN even came close.
/signed
/signed
Safer Saviour
Are you only playing for armour? Is that all you people wanted from this game? Sure, the end game weapons are reskins too but there are loads and loads of new skins to be foud elsewhere, enough to keep me happy on that front certainly. I think the stand-alone pieces are awesome though, if that counts for anything and the scenery's the best it's ever been.
As for the monsters looking the same... you were expecting something else? It's not like that's different from what we've had already and again, I'm fine with that because in GWEN, the monsters are more of a challenge, their AI has improved and no matter what they look like, the gameplay is better.
Dungeons are awesome. In previous campaigns, people have flocked (and still do in most cases) to the elite dungeon-like areas (FoW/UW/Sorrow's/Urgoz/The Deep/DoA) and so Anet gives us 18 dungeons, all with different difficulty levels and I'm having great fun exploring them. I hope these carry over some way into GW2.
For me, the scenery and gameplay pros outweigh the con of not having new armour.
As for the monsters looking the same... you were expecting something else? It's not like that's different from what we've had already and again, I'm fine with that because in GWEN, the monsters are more of a challenge, their AI has improved and no matter what they look like, the gameplay is better.
Dungeons are awesome. In previous campaigns, people have flocked (and still do in most cases) to the elite dungeon-like areas (FoW/UW/Sorrow's/Urgoz/The Deep/DoA) and so Anet gives us 18 dungeons, all with different difficulty levels and I'm having great fun exploring them. I hope these carry over some way into GW2.
For me, the scenery and gameplay pros outweigh the con of not having new armour.
wingzro
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Originally Posted by Safer Saviour
Are you only playing for armour? Is that all you people wanted from this game? Sure, the end game weapons are reskins too but there are loads and loads of new skins to be foud elsewhere, enough to keep me happy on that front certainly. I think the stand-alone pieces are awesome though, if that counts for anything and the scenery's the best it's ever been.
As for the monsters looking the same... you were expecting something else? It's not like that's different from what we've had already and again, I'm fine with that because in GWEN, the monsters are more of a challenge, their AI has improved and no matter what they look like, the gameplay is better.
Dungeons are awesome. In previous campaigns, people have flocked (and still do in most cases) to the elite dungeon-like areas (FoW/UW/Sorrow's/Urgoz/The Deep/DoA) and so Anet gives us 18 dungeons, all with different difficulty levels and I'm having great fun exploring them. I hope these carry over some way into GW2.
For me, the scenery and gameplay pros outweigh the con of not having new armour. Or perhaps play the game while looking good?
As for the monsters looking the same... you were expecting something else? It's not like that's different from what we've had already and again, I'm fine with that because in GWEN, the monsters are more of a challenge, their AI has improved and no matter what they look like, the gameplay is better.
Dungeons are awesome. In previous campaigns, people have flocked (and still do in most cases) to the elite dungeon-like areas (FoW/UW/Sorrow's/Urgoz/The Deep/DoA) and so Anet gives us 18 dungeons, all with different difficulty levels and I'm having great fun exploring them. I hope these carry over some way into GW2.
For me, the scenery and gameplay pros outweigh the con of not having new armour. Or perhaps play the game while looking good?
Gattocheese
You forget scenary and gameplay are nice, but content is what makes a game. You can have the most beautiful, nice looking game in the world that handles good, but if it lacks content, its gonna start sucking really fast. Armor has always been a way to add content or improve upon yourself, as well as weapons and other things. Now that they have stripped away a main aspect in many peoples eyes (as well as mine), what do we do in gwen? We beat the game, the dungeons, then what? Grind a title for a crappy reskin, hell no. How do they justify people playing this for the next year and a half?
Tijger
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Originally Posted by lyra_song
Any sort of meaningful arguments, intelligence or purpose in this thread is absolutely gone.
*eats popcorn and giggles in the corner* *steals some of lyra_song's popcorn and watches the proceedings shaking his head, laughing at the amount of people who fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down*
*eats popcorn and giggles in the corner* *steals some of lyra_song's popcorn and watches the proceedings shaking his head, laughing at the amount of people who fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down*
doomqueen
Reskin...
luilui
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Originally Posted by Tijger
*steals some of lyra_song's popcorn and watches the proceedings shaking his head, laughing at the amount of people who fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down*
People like you two really annoy me, pretending to be smart, posting irresponsible comment, flaming other 200 people without any argument.
If you want to flame someone at least give an argument.
*shaking his head because of the lack of decency in some people*
If you want to flame someone at least give an argument.
*shaking his head because of the lack of decency in some people*
ayame ftw
*Writing something between stars because it makes me look interesting*
haggus71
Lyra_song, Tijger. There is some constructive criticism in here between the flames. You're like the gang at MST 3K, only with no redeeming humor. You want to keep looking like ass hats, keep up the smarmy posts to amuse yourselves. *f-off. does that look elitist enough for you 2?*
Personally, I think the problem is the armor is a glaring reminder that, for what is according to Anet their last big addition to the game for two years, until GW2, the game looks like a cheap retread they tossed at us. Instead of taking time and thought in the design and focus, they threw in a bunch of title grinds and repetitive dungeon crawls to keep the maze rats busy for a while. If they were coming out with GW2 in 6 months, or even next fall, this might pass. 2009? This is a slap in the face.
Each new game had something significant to offer. Factions gave us the split storyline and faction titles, and added to the PvP experience. Nightfall gave us heroes. For ten bucks less than that, we get dungeon crawls(Undercity? The Deep?) and a four-way version of faction/sunspear, plus four badly-designed reskins (with the possible exception the ranger Norn). Oh, and they feed the grind. Easy way to keep farmers/title grinders satisfied, but judging from all those who took the time to think through a decent complaint about the game, they have pissed off a lot of people.
Me, I look at this and think, "Do I want to wait around, plucking along at this game for another 2 years; or should I just take my money somewhere else?" Don't forget. For every bad comment, it takes 10 good ones to equal it out. That's Business 101. There are plenty of good MMOs coming out, or already out there, with excellent storylines, that they should do everything possible to keep as many people playing as they can over the next few years.
Personally, I think the problem is the armor is a glaring reminder that, for what is according to Anet their last big addition to the game for two years, until GW2, the game looks like a cheap retread they tossed at us. Instead of taking time and thought in the design and focus, they threw in a bunch of title grinds and repetitive dungeon crawls to keep the maze rats busy for a while. If they were coming out with GW2 in 6 months, or even next fall, this might pass. 2009? This is a slap in the face.
Each new game had something significant to offer. Factions gave us the split storyline and faction titles, and added to the PvP experience. Nightfall gave us heroes. For ten bucks less than that, we get dungeon crawls(Undercity? The Deep?) and a four-way version of faction/sunspear, plus four badly-designed reskins (with the possible exception the ranger Norn). Oh, and they feed the grind. Easy way to keep farmers/title grinders satisfied, but judging from all those who took the time to think through a decent complaint about the game, they have pissed off a lot of people.
Me, I look at this and think, "Do I want to wait around, plucking along at this game for another 2 years; or should I just take my money somewhere else?" Don't forget. For every bad comment, it takes 10 good ones to equal it out. That's Business 101. There are plenty of good MMOs coming out, or already out there, with excellent storylines, that they should do everything possible to keep as many people playing as they can over the next few years.
Tijger
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Originally Posted by haggus71
Oh, and f*ck you too, its exactly the elitists who cry the loudest here but then, they usually are the whiners anyway
Quote: Personally, I think the problem is the armor is a glaring reminder that, for what is according to Anet their last big addition to the game for two years, until GW2, the game looks like a cheap retread they tossed at us. Instead of taking time and thought in the design and focus, they threw in a bunch of title grinds and repetitive dungeon crawls to keep the maze rats busy for a while. If they were coming out with GW2 in 6 months, or even next fall, this might pass. 2009? This is a slap in the face. Thats your opinion, mine differs, I wont sway you with any argument, now will I? So what again is the point of offering said argumentation?
I personally think EN is their best yet with better quests, better rewards, tighter storyline without having to going from A to B to C and personally, some of the armors are great, some are ugly, some are so-so. No different from Prophecies, Factions or Nightfall imho.
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Large % = Most. What's your complaint again?
When i work on anything, you can criticize that you dont like it. Or you think its UGLY. Thats fine. But dont tell me i half-assed anything, because thats insulting to me, and not a critique of the work in question. I give my everything into my work and im very proud of that. I doubt Anet is any different.
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Each new game had something significant to offer. Factions gave us the split storyline and faction titles, and added to the PvP experience. Nightfall gave us heroes. For ten bucks less than that, we get dungeon crawls(Undercity? The Deep?) and a four-way version of faction/sunspear, plus four badly-designed reskins (with the possible exception the ranger Norn). Oh, and they feed the grind. Easy way to keep farmers/title grinders satisfied, but judging from all those who took the time to think through a decent complaint about the game, they have pissed off a lot of people.
Factions sucked according to hundreds of posters here and the PvP never took off as intended AFAIK. Nightfall? That too incurred endless 'petitions' to change x or y and "I want Z or else..." topics. 4 reskins? Um...so there's only 4 armors? Or do you mean 4 per class (actually x2 if you count male and female which differ quite a bit in most cases)? As for reskins, all armor in GW is a 'reskin' since the basic character meshes are all human with similar features over which 'armor' is laid, GW has ALWAYS been comprised of reskins from prophecies onwards. Quote:
Ive been posting meaningfully on this thread.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...7&postcount=13 http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...9&postcount=28 http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...4&postcount=95 http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...8&postcount=97 http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=172 http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=202 http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=233 and this post i still stand by: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...2&postcount=85 But after page 12 or this turned into a off topic lynch mob thread with no real purpose than to bash Anet. Its kinda pointless to try and reason with some people here. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=243 After I received PMs from people telling me to stop posting my arguments, trying to bully me (without any sort of proper counter-argument to negate my arguments or render them moot), i pretty much gave up on the lot of you. Im gonna make this VERY VERY simple and clear. Just because YOU dont like the look of something doesn't mean you can demand a manufacturer to change the whole product line Just because YOU dont like the look of something doesn't mean the person who made it did it half-assed or did less work. A LOT of work went into GW:EoTN. And armors are no exception. Just because YOU dont like it doesnt mean some people aren't allowed to like it. There is nothing wrong with NOT LIKING IT. Thats your personal preference. Thats your taste. That is FINE! But dont go on telling me they lied to you, or they did a half ass job, or that you deserve better cause thats all bullshit and fallacious. Removing ANY armors would severely penalize those who LIKE IT and already OWN IT and are ENJOYING IT. Draikin
This not a matter of "I like or don't like the armor", it's a matter of Anet promising us 40 new armors where "new" of course implies they'd be made from scratch. New does not mean mixing old armor pieces together and giving them a simple re-skin. There's no excuse for this, if they couldn't give us 40 new armors then they should have been honest with us and tell us that, instead of new armor, we were going to get re-skins.
Proteus Summer
/signed
Lyra_song This thread was never about complaining to you about the lack of originality with the armors. This was a way for players to express "To Anet" that alot of people were disappointed and felt "ripped off". We as a consumer have the right to express this. As far as being lied to by anet we sort of were 40 reskins does not equal 40 NEW ARMORS IMO. I'm sure the community would have accepted a large percentage to be reskins, but to have most of them be reskins is just bad business. Hopefully they can update some of the armors like they did for the 15k tyrian Gladiators at a later date. Maybe anet could swap some of our crappy reskins for some of the hero armors??
lyra_song
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Originally Posted by Draikin
You can't make a petition based on a semantic argument. Prove to me that the armors in Eye of the North are the same armors as the previous game? Do they have the same mesh? Same UV map? Same textures? Same dye pattern? Theres only 1 place where armors from the previous game are available and thats in FACTIONS. Where you can craft Krytan armor, an armor thats available from PROPHECIES. Would you be as brazen to say that Fanatic and Cultist armor are the same exact armor? They share the same mesh, but one is quite different from the other. None of the armors are the same as the old. They dont have the same requirement, mesh, dye pattern, UV maps, or textures. Theres a big difference between being ripped off/scammed VS being disappointed in your purchase. One is for lawsuits, the other is for customer support.
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Proteus Summer
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Originally Posted by Proteus Summer
Hopefully they can update some of the armors like they did for the 15k tyrian Gladiators at a later date. Maybe anet could swap some of our crappy reskins for some of the hero armors??
Maybe. It's funny, all the voice acting, graphic overhaul, pretty decent plot, nice PvE skills, new heroes, etc...
and all people complain about is the armor. Lesson for Anet: Next time, worry less about the game, and focus more on the armor. That's all people seem to care about!
Gattocheese
Ok, what you need to understand is this is my opinion. Alot of people share the same. I am a grinder, not a title grinder. My main purpose in guildwars, lets say my main objective that really gets me to play is bettering my character with the best possible wears and items. I posted this before. I like to get the most elite weapons and armor Guild Wars has to offer. Now i worked my ass off playing the game for several months in anticipation for 40 brand new armor sets that were supposed to be "end game armors". When i found out most were reskins of previous armors (as well as weapons) it was the biggest let down for me. I did mainly buy the expansion to get the so called armor and so called end game content. The story is short and there is no content beyond finishing the dungeons and game. So i would of really liked to work for some new models of armor.
This alone has been a let down for a huge amount of people. More so than any other campaign i have ever seen. Dont judge people for what they do in the game. I like to get armor sets and weapons, different models and cool skins. I am proud of that. Emanuel Zorg
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Originally Posted by lyra_song
I think what's being said is that we've seen amazing new armors for all professions in past campaigns. We've seen some quality reworkings of existing armors (such as Warrior Kurzick -> Warrior Sunspear -- it would be wrong to call sunspear a "reskin" because there are differences in the model -- a sign that the time and care was taken to make sure the model and skin worked well together). The quality of work on armors in past campaigns has been consistently high, and even those that I can't stand (assassin ancient armor comes to mind) are well-designed and nicely skinned, and show that a lot of time and creativity went into them. So it's pretty shocking to see that in GW:EN, the vast majority of armors are obvious reskins of past models. The textures in many cases are quite nice, but the overall look of the armors are all reminiscent of things we've seen before. On top of that, the armors require farming for reputation and cost 10k per piece. So if we consider 1. ArenaNet's past work, 2. the fact that GW:EN is likely the last expansion for GW1, and 3. That these armors are all elite armors and require grinding for reputation, a lot of players were expecting that ArenaNet would pull out all the stops and give us the best work they're capable of. Player expectations were extremely high, so the level of disappointment is correspondingly high. I don't think any of these armors are hideous when you look at them on their own, but when you compare them to past work and consider the 3 points I mentioned, they don't compare favorably.
lyra_song
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Originally Posted by Emanuel Zorg
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When i work on anything, you can criticize that you dont like it. Or you think its UGLY. Thats fine. But dont tell me i half-assed anything, because thats insulting to me, and not a critique of the work in question. I give my everything into my work and im very proud of that. I doubt Anet is any different.
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I think what's being said is that we've seen amazing new armors for all professions in past campaigns. We've seen some quality reworkings of existing armors (such as Warrior Kurzick -> Warrior Sunspear -- it would be wrong to call sunspear a "reskin" because there are differences in the model -- a sign that the time and care was taken to make sure the model and skin worked well together). The quality of work on armors in past campaigns has been consistently high, and even those that I can't stand (assassin ancient armor comes to mind) are well-designed and nicely skinned, and show that a lot of time and creativity went into them. So it's pretty shocking to see that in GW:EN, the vast majority of armors are obvious reskins of past models. The textures in many cases are quite nice, but the overall look of the armors are all reminiscent of things we've seen before. On top of that, the armors require farming for reputation and cost 10k per piece. So if we consider 1. ArenaNet's past work, 2. the fact that GW:EN is likely the last expansion for GW1, and 3. That these armors are all elite armors and require grinding for reputation, a lot of players were expecting that ArenaNet would pull out all the stops and give us the best work they're capable of. Player expectations were extremely high, so the level of disappointment is correspondingly high. I don't think any of these armors are hideous when you look at them on their own, but when you compare them to past work and consider the 3 points I mentioned, they don't compare favorably. I agree with you. Theres been high expectations. I also agree that SOME of the reskins (particularly the dwarven ones) are REALLY BAD. UNINTERESTING. BLAND. However I disagree that the quality is less. Its the same quality of work. The quality of work done and attention to detail does not equate to a beautiful final product.
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Lynx Of Ithorian
Just wanted to know the views of all you on this matter , I personally im very annoyed at the lack of effort put into the new armor sets , especially the end game armor that looks like badly retextured RECYCLED versions of older armor , my male monk deldimor armor does not even match - the pance look like there off another armor set to the top and i'd wear my sing jea set over it anyday. utterly dissapointed. The game to me feel's rushed and recycled , even the end-game green weapons are pathetic - brohn healing staff skin ... just wow. If your feeling as frustrated as me about the lack of effort put into this game , please share your thoughts and maybe , just maybe anet will pull there finger out and release some original armor skins for us to enjoy. just for reference, here is the OP. It is insulting. Basically, the OP is saying he doesn't care about anything else in the game, all that matters is the end game armor, and since it's crap, the whole game is crap. Talk about flawed arguments... I do find it odd that on one of the best Guild Wars products ever in regards to voice acting, graphics, hero armor, etc.... the player armor is so bad. It really boggles the mind. It's like Anet either didn't think people would notice, or perhaps they purposely put reskins so that people who missed out on other campaigns could get a similar armor here. I have to believe it's deliberate, in which case, a petition to change the armor is valid. However, if the tone of the OP was just a little more cordial, he would have received less flames and more support.
Bryant Again
I don't think everyone would be so pissed off if these armors were 1k each. Sure, they're...interesting, but definantly not worth more than 1.5k a piece.
And yeah I agree largely with Emanual. Gattocheese
There has been alot of high expectations for GWEN. I, myself would of rather them not put so much time trying to improve the graphic view in GWEN and more time into putting new armor models up. The game has a decent graphic engine already. I think the end game content, the stuff that keeps players around should have been paid more attention to.. i.e. armor. In my opinion, i would have loved to beat the game and grind for a title with all my characters to have some original model armor. Now i dont want any new armor. But its just a disappointment almost across the board.
lyra_song
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
I don't think everyone would be so pissed off if these armors were 1k each. Sure, they're...interesting, but definantly not worth more than 1.5k a piece.
And yeah I agree largely with Emanual. I think if you grinded for the title, bought it, and felt ripped off, thats a justifyable sensation. But its just the same as when someone posted being the first to have the Necro Primeval Armor. But thats different from being ripped off for your real money. Anet said 40 new armors and they deliver 41 sets + common armors. They gave you exactly what they said you would get. If you dont like the aesthetics of it, thats a different matter.
Willow O Whisper
I just can't take how Gaile told us that the reason for theese reskins is beacuse it fits the lore
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