Petition: Re-Skin Endgame Armor
freekedoutfish
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Originally Posted by Shadowmere
Second not all the armors are reskins, look at Warrior Silver Eagle.
Well lucky warriors, atleast ONE class isnt getting rehased armor. Now I feel so much better knowing the warriors are fine. How about you compare elite elemetnal armor from propherces and GWEN and then tell me that the comparisons arent a complete piss take!
I appreciate its the same continent and maybe they want to follow a trend, but being the last ever expansion we get, we should have got better.
We have to play GWEN for 2 years to make up the gap before we get GW2 so it should offer more incentives to play. If the armor is that bad, that most people dont want it, it removes a HUGE incentive to play.
Servant of Kali
I've seen GWEN armors on wiki. Every single one I saw was horrible; there wasn't a single one where I went like "wow, I gotta have this one". All were "meh..". With Prophecies Faction and Nightfall there were a lot of armors where I went "must...have...".
Bryant Again
Wow this thread asploded.
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Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter
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At least I'll save some ecto when my ranger gets there, eh?
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Also, looking through the armor on the official wiki, reskins have always been pretty rampant, especially in Prophecies...
Ja, I made a list earlier in this thread. BEHOLD!:
*Warrior
Dragon
Platemail
Charr Hide (mostly)
*Ranger
Studded Leather
Fur-lined
*Monk
Woven
Judge
Any monk tattoo, pretty much
*Necro
Cultist
Cabal
Scar Pattern
*Mesmer
Rogue
Noble
Elegant
*Ele
All, even Stormforged (It's reskinned Krytan!!!)
*Warrior
Dragon
Platemail
Charr Hide (mostly)
*Ranger
Studded Leather
Fur-lined
*Monk
Woven
Judge
Any monk tattoo, pretty much
*Necro
Cultist
Cabal
Scar Pattern
*Mesmer
Rogue
Noble
Elegant
*Ele
All, even Stormforged (It's reskinned Krytan!!!)
genofreek
Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed by the armor as well. Especially since GW:EN was supposed to be elite territory, with the level 20 limit and the high prices/requirements of, well, just about everything worth having. I thought the armor we would earn would be more equal to the effort we put in to grind titles and gather material. They advertised those 40 new armor sets, and while I figured it wasn't going to be 40 100% new armors, I wasn't expecting the vast majority to be such sad-looking reskins. As someone already pointed out, some of them just look like combos that don't quite mesh.
The whole thing just screams timesink/goldsink. A cheap way to occupy our game time until they get GW:2 up and running. I'm enjoying the quests and plot, and I LOVE most of the new areas, but there are so many areas of the game that just feel like the design team just stopped caring in the middle and took shortcuts. The Hall of Monuments is just SAD.
Oh well, on the plus side, those of us without a lot of money will be keeping much of it, since there's not a whole lot up north worth buying.
The whole thing just screams timesink/goldsink. A cheap way to occupy our game time until they get GW:2 up and running. I'm enjoying the quests and plot, and I LOVE most of the new areas, but there are so many areas of the game that just feel like the design team just stopped caring in the middle and took shortcuts. The Hall of Monuments is just SAD.
Oh well, on the plus side, those of us without a lot of money will be keeping much of it, since there's not a whole lot up north worth buying.
Bryant Again
Also, I don't really mind that the new armor in GW:EN are reskins, it's more that these are awful looking reskins (with very few exceptions).
Maria stormshield
/signed
Its like a different blind person designed each set. At least Anet is nice enough to give blind people jobs.
Its like a different blind person designed each set. At least Anet is nice enough to give blind people jobs.
Tyras
*looks at ele armors* geez your right, have they got the worse designers working on the ele armors? they can't make em on their own models so they use "pre" made ones...
I'M STICKING WITH ELITE FLAMEFORGED!!
EDIT : looking at it blind people designed ele armors (for male) after prophecies, cause factions n most of nightfall are pretty bad looking only exception is Vabbi ( which hardly anyone can afford)
I'M STICKING WITH ELITE FLAMEFORGED!!
EDIT : looking at it blind people designed ele armors (for male) after prophecies, cause factions n most of nightfall are pretty bad looking only exception is Vabbi ( which hardly anyone can afford)
acidic
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Originally Posted by Tijger
Actually, no, it doesnt.
Actually, yes, it does.
Fenrik de Arvis
/signed
Well, partially signed. There are several armors I DO like, and there are at least three I am going to buy (although I was quite lucky with classes and gender there). The problem is not that they are reskins, since good reskins can also be good-looking. However, if 80% of them are nearly the same model (and some of them even exactly the same model), then even a good reskin is not enough. It may look nice, maybe better than the original, but it lacks originality.
And claiming that this is normal for an expansion is the worst excuse ever. After all, this is the game that should encourage us to buy GW2. It should be even better than the previous chapters, because screwing that up makes certainly a bad impression. Although there is still hope, since GW is - fortunately - an online game, which means it can be constantly updated. So if Anet realizes that this load of reskins is harming to their future sales, there is a fair chance that they will do something about it.
I agree that they should not change the already existing armors. After all, there are some people who like them, and besides - the work is already done (even if it was only small work on some of them), so why throwing it away? They should just add some new armors, I think one for each profession would be enough, and expand the gloves to full armor sets. The new armor could be unlinked to the ranks, and be available after the completion of EotN - and thus ultimately the completion of Guild Wars.
Well, partially signed. There are several armors I DO like, and there are at least three I am going to buy (although I was quite lucky with classes and gender there). The problem is not that they are reskins, since good reskins can also be good-looking. However, if 80% of them are nearly the same model (and some of them even exactly the same model), then even a good reskin is not enough. It may look nice, maybe better than the original, but it lacks originality.
And claiming that this is normal for an expansion is the worst excuse ever. After all, this is the game that should encourage us to buy GW2. It should be even better than the previous chapters, because screwing that up makes certainly a bad impression. Although there is still hope, since GW is - fortunately - an online game, which means it can be constantly updated. So if Anet realizes that this load of reskins is harming to their future sales, there is a fair chance that they will do something about it.
I agree that they should not change the already existing armors. After all, there are some people who like them, and besides - the work is already done (even if it was only small work on some of them), so why throwing it away? They should just add some new armors, I think one for each profession would be enough, and expand the gloves to full armor sets. The new armor could be unlinked to the ranks, and be available after the completion of EotN - and thus ultimately the completion of Guild Wars.
street peddler
i dunno, i like most of the armors so whatever.
Farcry Deathblade
...to those of you asking us to stop complaining, apparently you don't mind wasting $40...and yes I have seen just about all the armors available...I'm no longer holding out that maybe...just maybe...the asuran ele armor might be awesome...cuz IT ISN'T. It looks like a bunch of 1.5k CRAP. So once again, I'll make my statement...ANET get your thumbs out of your asses and A)get the ball rolling on some additional armor that we don't have to spend $30 in your online store for or B)cough up an apology and don't screw us over again in the future...even tho as it is, you aren't going to even get the opportunity after the shitty little stunt you just pulled.
helldrik
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Originally Posted by Fenrik de Arvis
So if Anet realizes that this load of reskins is harming to their future sales, there is a fair chance that they will do something about it.
I agree, if Anet wont do anything about that, I'll likely wont do anything watching the GW2 box on shelves in 2009-2010.
I think that most of these posters in those complaining threads about armors wont buy it.
I think that most of these posters in those complaining threads about armors wont buy it.
neooki
Go look at your clothes. Your real clothes, and see how many of them are reskins. Better yet, look at jeans, reskins up the arse.
Preferences of armor and clothes are relative from person to person. You may not like the armors in GW:EN. You may not like the fact they were reskined from previous models. Personally I hated all of the Monk armor in Nightfall and all of the Monk armor in Factions. The only armor in factions that I really like was the 1.5k Kurzik. Is that ANETS fault that they didn't make armor that I liked? I say no, though my tastes for armor is a bit different from what they usually have in mind, that doesn't mean those people didn't work hard on designing those armors. Maybe they cut a few corners on the armor, but overall they new skins look cool(well most of them at least).
If anything you remember this. Its not ANETS fault you wasted your time farming, its not their fault you didn't like their armor designs, and they definitely did not force you to buy the game, nor do they force you to stay. If your that angry at ANET, then just stop playing. In fact stop playing video games all together, because if you didn't notice, All games All have reskins in them, Always.
Preferences of armor and clothes are relative from person to person. You may not like the armors in GW:EN. You may not like the fact they were reskined from previous models. Personally I hated all of the Monk armor in Nightfall and all of the Monk armor in Factions. The only armor in factions that I really like was the 1.5k Kurzik. Is that ANETS fault that they didn't make armor that I liked? I say no, though my tastes for armor is a bit different from what they usually have in mind, that doesn't mean those people didn't work hard on designing those armors. Maybe they cut a few corners on the armor, but overall they new skins look cool(well most of them at least).
If anything you remember this. Its not ANETS fault you wasted your time farming, its not their fault you didn't like their armor designs, and they definitely did not force you to buy the game, nor do they force you to stay. If your that angry at ANET, then just stop playing. In fact stop playing video games all together, because if you didn't notice, All games All have reskins in them, Always.
Squirl
Just because people are playing the game doesn't mean they're happy with the reskinned armor sets. Saying that there's one or two that aren't reskins is pointless since it was specifically stated it was 40 new armor sets.
I'll agree though, nobody forced us to buy anything. The problem is, don't hype something up if you can't deliver. Fable is a good example, there's a second one coming out but I don't know anyone that even cares because of how bad they failed at presenting what they promised in the first one.
Pull stunts like that and people's trust in a company goes down, something Anet has really done for me with GWEN. Not just because of the lack of "new" armor but for many other reasons as well.
Sure clothes in real life are reskins but this is a video game, worst comparison ever.
I'll agree though, nobody forced us to buy anything. The problem is, don't hype something up if you can't deliver. Fable is a good example, there's a second one coming out but I don't know anyone that even cares because of how bad they failed at presenting what they promised in the first one.
Pull stunts like that and people's trust in a company goes down, something Anet has really done for me with GWEN. Not just because of the lack of "new" armor but for many other reasons as well.
Sure clothes in real life are reskins but this is a video game, worst comparison ever.
Detis Zan
http://picasaweb.google.com/Detis.Za...ey=sU68bsjemco
These are just SOME of the necro female armos that are slightly remodeled and/or reskinned.
The 40$ I spent wasn't all the the armors. It was about the game, the storyline and everything else (Screw weapons I have the best I could need..) I hardly like any of them, and hell I hardly liked any of the Fem necro armor in NF and none in Factions (But I do love Vabbian, drool.)
Yet even when when I was looking at the fem warriors Asuran I laughed my ass off how the model is exactly to my 15k Kurzick to the T. Looks great but is funny to see the complete reskin.
Even doing that little project I realized how factions armors are reskins of EACH OTHER. Look at canthan or anything to see the line of: Noobie armor, Greater Armor (Extra symbols) and Elite Armor (Even MORE symbols). So really Faction's armor is reskinning itself go look. Same in Proph, Look at Monk Censor and Judgment (Mango Pointed this out).
Like others have said there have been reskins, but in GWEN they just did a poor job of reskinning. Very poor job, hard work yes but it's too obvious of the reskinning to even like it. Nightfall wasn't bad about reskinning you may notice it here and there but no one made a thread about it (at least not of this size).
/half sign. There's no way to reskin all the armors but there could be added new sets of armor like they did for Prophecies (Labyrinth, Knights..) But I can still enjoy the game the other loot and my old armor still I just find it disappointing to gain titles that don't do anything honestly just to get armor you're not going to care about in the long run (save for the storyline..)
These are just SOME of the necro female armos that are slightly remodeled and/or reskinned.
The 40$ I spent wasn't all the the armors. It was about the game, the storyline and everything else (Screw weapons I have the best I could need..) I hardly like any of them, and hell I hardly liked any of the Fem necro armor in NF and none in Factions (But I do love Vabbian, drool.)
Yet even when when I was looking at the fem warriors Asuran I laughed my ass off how the model is exactly to my 15k Kurzick to the T. Looks great but is funny to see the complete reskin.
Even doing that little project I realized how factions armors are reskins of EACH OTHER. Look at canthan or anything to see the line of: Noobie armor, Greater Armor (Extra symbols) and Elite Armor (Even MORE symbols). So really Faction's armor is reskinning itself go look. Same in Proph, Look at Monk Censor and Judgment (Mango Pointed this out).
Like others have said there have been reskins, but in GWEN they just did a poor job of reskinning. Very poor job, hard work yes but it's too obvious of the reskinning to even like it. Nightfall wasn't bad about reskinning you may notice it here and there but no one made a thread about it (at least not of this size).
/half sign. There's no way to reskin all the armors but there could be added new sets of armor like they did for Prophecies (Labyrinth, Knights..) But I can still enjoy the game the other loot and my old armor still I just find it disappointing to gain titles that don't do anything honestly just to get armor you're not going to care about in the long run (save for the storyline..)
Farcry Deathblade
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Originally Posted by neooki
Go look at your clothes. Your real clothes, and see how many of them are reskins. Better yet, look at jeans, reskins up the arse.
Preferences of armor and clothes are relative from person to person. You may not like the armors in GW:EN. You may not like the fact they were reskined from previous models. Personally I hated all of the Monk armor in Nightfall and all of the Monk armor in Factions. The only armor in factions that I really like was the 1.5k Kurzik. Is that ANETS fault that they didn't make armor that I liked? I say no, though my tastes for armor is a bit different from what they usually have in mind, that doesn't mean those people didn't work hard on designing those armors. Maybe they cut a few corners on the armor, but overall they new skins look cool(well most of them at least).
If anything you remember this. Its not ANETS fault you wasted your time farming, its not their fault you didn't like their armor designs, and they definitely did not force you to buy the game, nor do they force you to stay. If your that angry at ANET, then just stop playing. In fact stop playing video games all together, because if you didn't notice, All games All have reskins in them, Always. This has got to be the stupidest argument yet. HELLO, I DON'T WEAR ARMOR EVERYDAY. I DON'T TOTE AROUND A SWORD OUR CAST DOWN FIREBALLS AT DEMONS IN BETWEEN CLASSES. Games are different from real life...and to top it off, I'm sure there's more than 40 different styles in real life to choose from. And here's one for you...if I didn't like an armor that anet had created before why the hell would I like a reskin of it??? But...if Anet tried to make something different, something that fits more TASTES, there's actually a chance that I may like it...therefore it IS their fault. And chances are THEY DIDN'T WORK HARD. They didn't just cut corners...they lopped off a whole half of the armor project: the MESH half. And yes...it is their fault for misleading the general populace into believing that they'd get "NEW" armors, resulting in people acting SMART, and saving up/farming so they'd be able to get these "NEW" armors when they were finally available. So yes, I most likely will stop playing guild wars for a while, and until they prove themselves I will not waste any more of my money on them. But stop playing all games cuz they have reskins? I don't play Halo for new sets of armor...or Gears of War...or Bioshock...or Assassin's Creed...(and frankly, at least other mmo's aren't THIS lazy about new armors). So here's a tip, quit using flawed logic when trying to defend a point that I don't think you even want to defend. Sounds to me you just like arguing against majorities. In the mean time, if you'd actually read thru the whole forum before opening your mouth again...you might see that we just want Anet to come to the realization that they have a bunch of people who are pissed at them for being so half assed.
Preferences of armor and clothes are relative from person to person. You may not like the armors in GW:EN. You may not like the fact they were reskined from previous models. Personally I hated all of the Monk armor in Nightfall and all of the Monk armor in Factions. The only armor in factions that I really like was the 1.5k Kurzik. Is that ANETS fault that they didn't make armor that I liked? I say no, though my tastes for armor is a bit different from what they usually have in mind, that doesn't mean those people didn't work hard on designing those armors. Maybe they cut a few corners on the armor, but overall they new skins look cool(well most of them at least).
If anything you remember this. Its not ANETS fault you wasted your time farming, its not their fault you didn't like their armor designs, and they definitely did not force you to buy the game, nor do they force you to stay. If your that angry at ANET, then just stop playing. In fact stop playing video games all together, because if you didn't notice, All games All have reskins in them, Always. This has got to be the stupidest argument yet. HELLO, I DON'T WEAR ARMOR EVERYDAY. I DON'T TOTE AROUND A SWORD OUR CAST DOWN FIREBALLS AT DEMONS IN BETWEEN CLASSES. Games are different from real life...and to top it off, I'm sure there's more than 40 different styles in real life to choose from. And here's one for you...if I didn't like an armor that anet had created before why the hell would I like a reskin of it??? But...if Anet tried to make something different, something that fits more TASTES, there's actually a chance that I may like it...therefore it IS their fault. And chances are THEY DIDN'T WORK HARD. They didn't just cut corners...they lopped off a whole half of the armor project: the MESH half. And yes...it is their fault for misleading the general populace into believing that they'd get "NEW" armors, resulting in people acting SMART, and saving up/farming so they'd be able to get these "NEW" armors when they were finally available. So yes, I most likely will stop playing guild wars for a while, and until they prove themselves I will not waste any more of my money on them. But stop playing all games cuz they have reskins? I don't play Halo for new sets of armor...or Gears of War...or Bioshock...or Assassin's Creed...(and frankly, at least other mmo's aren't THIS lazy about new armors). So here's a tip, quit using flawed logic when trying to defend a point that I don't think you even want to defend. Sounds to me you just like arguing against majorities. In the mean time, if you'd actually read thru the whole forum before opening your mouth again...you might see that we just want Anet to come to the realization that they have a bunch of people who are pissed at them for being so half assed.
wu1
While waiting for GWEN to come out, i was hoping to wear the awesome armor the Norn used in the concept art and screenshots. When the preview event rolled in, I discover that there was no such armor... 
I really wanted to see those Norn NPC helms
http://www.guildwars.com/images/conc...t-033-page.jpg
http://pcmedia.gamespy.com/pc/image/...5055535121.jpg
http://www.guildwars.com/images/conc...t-033-page.jpg
http://pcmedia.gamespy.com/pc/image/...5055535121.jpg
Psuedo Halgoen
/signed. I can't believe the hero's get better armor than the players. Pathetic.
Jamison0071
I must say, I was extremely disappointed that my necro couldnt get that lovely red suit that the hero wears.
IlikeGW
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Originally Posted by wu1
While waiting for GWEN to come out, i was hoping to wear the awesome armor the Norn used in the concept art and screenshots. When the preview event rolled in, I discover that there was no such armor... I really wanted to see those Norn NPC helms
http://www.guildwars.com/images/conc...t-033-page.jpg
http://pcmedia.gamespy.com/pc/image/...5055535121.jpg The Norn armor is very cool and I'm surprised that the character armor is basically nothing like it. I'd gladly buy a set that's all Mad Max crazy metal and muscles like the Norn... but the sets they actually sell are like Ascalon frickin armor.
http://www.guildwars.com/images/conc...t-033-page.jpg
http://pcmedia.gamespy.com/pc/image/...5055535121.jpg The Norn armor is very cool and I'm surprised that the character armor is basically nothing like it. I'd gladly buy a set that's all Mad Max crazy metal and muscles like the Norn... but the sets they actually sell are like Ascalon frickin armor.
boko
/notsigned
Instead of complaining, and making a petition for changing the armor, how about people try to be helpful instead of just whining? Instead of changing, how about adding new armor skins?
Submit your own designs and help Anet make something "original" coz apparently, the armor that they make is not good enough... btw, love the new ranger armor...
I would love to see other people's designs coz apparently it is very easy to be original. And it would be nice to have see armor made by the fans. Comeon, i am sure there are loads of people with lots of imagination!
Side-note : Loved those weapons designed by fans!
Instead of complaining, and making a petition for changing the armor, how about people try to be helpful instead of just whining? Instead of changing, how about adding new armor skins?
Submit your own designs and help Anet make something "original" coz apparently, the armor that they make is not good enough... btw, love the new ranger armor...
I would love to see other people's designs coz apparently it is very easy to be original. And it would be nice to have see armor made by the fans. Comeon, i am sure there are loads of people with lots of imagination!
Side-note : Loved those weapons designed by fans!
Corwin_Andros
I think a large part of this whole reskin complaining problem has a lot to do with peoples' take on the word NEW. I guess different might have been a better term for the most part. We do have 40 "different" sets of armor.
A lot of you are complaining because they are reskins.. which to my mind means that the ONLY thing done would be that they used an identical shape and applied a slightly different texture to it. But from some of the examples people have shown there were more, in in several case slight model changes as well.
Also you are complaining that they mixed an matched parts one different sets to make these "new" sets. Frankly I do the exact same thing on most of my characters. Very rarely do I like the entire set of any given model type so almost all of my characters are mix-matched to make a combination I find appealing. So they attempted to do a bit of that for us. Whether or not we as individuals find these new combinations nice is a matter of personal taste.
I can see where these are considered "new", as in different and here to fore not used combinations or textures.
Anther thing that you might want to consider is the fact that GW:EN takes place in northern TYRIA. It isn't a totally new continent of humans like Cantha, or a different human culture on a subcontinent like Elona. GW:EN involves human refugees from the Ascalonian /Krytan cultures of southern Tyria. It only stands to reason that a large part of the armors we see are variants of what came in Prophesies with a few twists thrown in from the other campaigns.
Norns, Dwarves, and Asurans are NOT humans. their knowledge of human armor types would be heavily influenced by the Prophecies culture they are most familiar with mixed with a bit of their own ideas as well as a smattering of influence from the other human cultures. So in a sense, these reskins you are all up in arms over, make perfect sense.
Personally I was hoping for a nice set of female mesmer armor out of the four possibilities, and like a lot of you farmed and saved for it. But in the end I don't really care for them and so she ended up with a set of Marhan's Grotto armor from Prophesies. No biggie. Several of my other characters will look really good in the other GW:EN sets available.
It really comes down to personal taste. As I pointed out in another, similar thread, what one person finds hideous, someone else will positively drool over. But seriously, basing your entire enjoyment or lack of same, of an entire game because you don't think they went all out on armor seems a bit extreme. Especially if you stop and consider my point about the cultural influences.
Besides.. All of this armor is by default based on the shape of a human body, which unless I'm severely mistaken has a more or less uniform shape on average. So expecting some major innovation in armor design each and every time, while a nice thought can only go so far before you get some really out there, silly designs.
A personal example of this, in my own opinion, would be a large part of the necro armor in NF. I took one look at that and thought to myself.. WTF were they on when they dreamed that up? But again, I'm sure that there are some of you out there that looked at those same sets and went "OOOOOOOOO!! (Insert drool here) Finally.. Something I like!!! Bout damn time Anet!"
A lot of you are complaining because they are reskins.. which to my mind means that the ONLY thing done would be that they used an identical shape and applied a slightly different texture to it. But from some of the examples people have shown there were more, in in several case slight model changes as well.
Also you are complaining that they mixed an matched parts one different sets to make these "new" sets. Frankly I do the exact same thing on most of my characters. Very rarely do I like the entire set of any given model type so almost all of my characters are mix-matched to make a combination I find appealing. So they attempted to do a bit of that for us. Whether or not we as individuals find these new combinations nice is a matter of personal taste.
I can see where these are considered "new", as in different and here to fore not used combinations or textures.
Anther thing that you might want to consider is the fact that GW:EN takes place in northern TYRIA. It isn't a totally new continent of humans like Cantha, or a different human culture on a subcontinent like Elona. GW:EN involves human refugees from the Ascalonian /Krytan cultures of southern Tyria. It only stands to reason that a large part of the armors we see are variants of what came in Prophesies with a few twists thrown in from the other campaigns.
Norns, Dwarves, and Asurans are NOT humans. their knowledge of human armor types would be heavily influenced by the Prophecies culture they are most familiar with mixed with a bit of their own ideas as well as a smattering of influence from the other human cultures. So in a sense, these reskins you are all up in arms over, make perfect sense.
Personally I was hoping for a nice set of female mesmer armor out of the four possibilities, and like a lot of you farmed and saved for it. But in the end I don't really care for them and so she ended up with a set of Marhan's Grotto armor from Prophesies. No biggie. Several of my other characters will look really good in the other GW:EN sets available.
It really comes down to personal taste. As I pointed out in another, similar thread, what one person finds hideous, someone else will positively drool over. But seriously, basing your entire enjoyment or lack of same, of an entire game because you don't think they went all out on armor seems a bit extreme. Especially if you stop and consider my point about the cultural influences.
Besides.. All of this armor is by default based on the shape of a human body, which unless I'm severely mistaken has a more or less uniform shape on average. So expecting some major innovation in armor design each and every time, while a nice thought can only go so far before you get some really out there, silly designs.
A personal example of this, in my own opinion, would be a large part of the necro armor in NF. I took one look at that and thought to myself.. WTF were they on when they dreamed that up? But again, I'm sure that there are some of you out there that looked at those same sets and went "OOOOOOOOO!! (Insert drool here) Finally.. Something I like!!! Bout damn time Anet!"
Farcry Deathblade
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Originally Posted by boko
/notsigned
Instead of complaining, and making a petition for changing the armor, how about people try to be helpful instead of just whining? Instead of changing, how about adding new armor skins?
Submit your own designs and help Anet make something "original" coz apparently, the armor that they make is not good enough... btw, love the new ranger armor...
I would love to see other people's designs coz apparently it is very easy to be original. And it would be nice to have see armor made by the fans. Comeon, i am sure there are loads of people with lots of imagination! ...first the petition...THEN submission of new ideas...posting a bunch of pictures is not going to make nearly as big a difference as letting anet know how mad we really are right now, and I think it has already been mentioned that the armors should be added...not replacing the old ones(no matter how bad they suck)
Instead of complaining, and making a petition for changing the armor, how about people try to be helpful instead of just whining? Instead of changing, how about adding new armor skins?
Submit your own designs and help Anet make something "original" coz apparently, the armor that they make is not good enough... btw, love the new ranger armor...
I would love to see other people's designs coz apparently it is very easy to be original. And it would be nice to have see armor made by the fans. Comeon, i am sure there are loads of people with lots of imagination! ...first the petition...THEN submission of new ideas...posting a bunch of pictures is not going to make nearly as big a difference as letting anet know how mad we really are right now, and I think it has already been mentioned that the armors should be added...not replacing the old ones(no matter how bad they suck)
boko
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Originally Posted by Farcry Deathblade
...first the petition...THEN submission of new ideas...posting a bunch of pictures is not going to make nearly as big a difference as letting anet know how mad we really are right now, and I think it has already been mentioned that the armors should be added...not replacing the old ones(no matter how bad they suck)
Actually, posting pictures will be far more explicit than any words people on this thread may come up with tbh. A picture and the exact expectation of the fans and what they expect/want and consider "original" is far more explicit and shows Anet where they fail the expectation of the players. And which the palyers ain't gonna consider as "reskin"....
HawkofStorms
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Originally Posted by Jamison0071
I must say, I was extremely disappointed that my necro couldnt get that lovely red suit that the hero wears.
Yeah, I'm also kinda mad that 2 of the sneak peak pictures we were shown of GW:EN were of Anton and that necro hero. A.net was trying to make us think those would be real armor sets for the necro and sin.
Farcry Deathblade
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Originally Posted by boko
Actually, posting pictures will be far more explicit than any words people on this thread may come up with tbh. A picture and the exact expectation of the fans and what they expect/want and consider "original" is far more explicit and shows Anet where they fail the expectation of the players. And which the palyers ain't gonna consider as "reskin"....
Well then here's an idea:
....happy?
....happy?
boko
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Originally Posted by Farcry Deathblade
Well then here's an idea:
....happy? much better i'd have to say. That gives a bettter definition of what players want. It's more like let players have armor similar to heroes, kind of request instead of just complaining and claiming that armor are reskins. It's more we want armor with same design as heroes.
I can already see a pattern to it. The heroes armor shows lots of skin...lol ... It's more like players want more skin... bleh...forgot that majority of players are boys...
....happy? much better i'd have to say. That gives a bettter definition of what players want. It's more like let players have armor similar to heroes, kind of request instead of just complaining and claiming that armor are reskins. It's more we want armor with same design as heroes.
I can already see a pattern to it. The heroes armor shows lots of skin...lol ... It's more like players want more skin... bleh...forgot that majority of players are boys...
Omniclasm
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Originally Posted by boko
much better i'd have to say. That gives a bettter definition of what players want. It's more like let players have armor similar to heroes, kind of request instead of just complaining and claiming that armor are reskins. It's more we want armor with same design as heroes.
I can already see a pattern to it. The heroes armor shows lots of skin...lol ... It's more like players want more skin... bleh...forgot that majority of players are boys...
The only one that shows much skin is Jora.
I can already see a pattern to it. The heroes armor shows lots of skin...lol ... It's more like players want more skin... bleh...forgot that majority of players are boys...
Farcry Deathblade
...uh, try actually reading several of the other forums (and many of the posts in this one) and it's painfully obvious that we're all jealous of the fresh style offered by hero armors...it's not about skin(except for some people...ok...)it's about ORIGINALITY. Do I want to look exactly like my heroes? No, but what I do know is that if they can create something new for them, WHY NOT US???
boko
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Originally Posted by Omniclasm
Quote: Originally Posted by Farcry Deathblade ...uh, try actually reading several of the other forums (and many of the posts in this one) and it's painfully obvious that we're all jealous of the fresh style offered by hero armors... Actually, most of the posts in this thread are of the type "Anet sucks and are lazy, and their design sucks. Their designs in NF and Factions were better...I'm going to quit/slashwrist...Boycot GWEN .etc.". Sounded mostly like a whiner thread like so many on Guru. I'm sorry if I missed the posts about jelousing about Hero armor. And No. I did not bother with other forums apart Guru. GW online seems to be about same as Guru, and others, I just dun't care. They seem pretty dead to me e.g photic.
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try the forum on hero armor? http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10193446|
Originally Posted by Farcry Deathblade
it's not about skin(except for some people...ok...)it's about ORIGINALITY. Do I want to look exactly like my heroes? No, but what I do know is that if they can create something new for them, WHY NOT US?
Creating something new is hard. Originality is hard. Even the hero armor look similar to some stuff already existing in other materials. That is why I was suggesting that fans actually made their designs and show Anet what they want/expect. What if Anet comes up and do some new skins but which the players are going to label as "reskins" once again? And thanks to the hero pictures, we have a better view of what people are asking on this thread. True, not the best, but still better than nothing.
Omniclasm See why people have a problem with it? Adur Shan // T H A N I A
Plz redisgn all the armors sets of GW:EN all are horribles and textmods copy. :S Really bad Anet.
boko
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Originally Posted by Omniclasm
See why people have a problem with it? I have to admit that the hero armor > that sin armor in the picture. Good point. Wonder if Anet did the other way round, would people be happier? like hero gets the armor on the right and players get the armor on the left >.>. I know i would  Still I think it would be better if players showed some designs that might make Anet know specifically what players want though.
Vanessa Dwager
Hasn't anyone seen the asura armor? Elementalists have spectacles!
Farcry Deathblade
boko quit talking about players showing their own designs unless you're going to do it yourself. I mean, do you seriously want me to just slap up pictures of the concept art to boot? Anet knows what we want, and that's something very detailed that isn't a freaking reskin!
neooki
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Originally Posted by Farcry Deathblade
This has got to be the stupidest argument yet. HELLO, I DON'T WEAR ARMOR EVERYDAY. I DON'T TOTE AROUND A SWORD OUR CAST DOWN FIREBALLS AT DEMONS IN BETWEEN CLASSES. Games are different from real life...and to top it off, I'm sure there's more than 40 different styles in real life to choose from. And here's one for you...if I didn't like an armor that anet had created before why the hell would I like a reskin of it??? But...if Anet tried to make something different, something that fits more TASTES, there's actually a chance that I may like it...therefore it IS their fault. And chances are THEY DIDN'T WORK HARD. They didn't just cut corners...they lopped off a whole half of the armor project: the MESH half. And yes...it is their fault for misleading the general populace into believing that they'd get "NEW" armors, resulting in people acting SMART, and saving up/farming so they'd be able to get these "NEW" armors when they were finally available. So yes, I most likely will stop playing guild wars for a while, and until they prove themselves I will not waste any more of my money on them. But stop playing all games cuz they have reskins? I don't play Halo for new sets of armor...or Gears of War...or Bioshock...or Assassin's Creed...(and frankly, at least other mmo's aren't THIS lazy about new armors). So here's a tip, quit using flawed logic when trying to defend a point that I don't think you even want to defend. Sounds to me you just like arguing against majorities. In the mean time, if you'd actually read thru the whole forum before opening your mouth again...you might see that we just want Anet to come to the realization that they have a bunch of people who are pissed at them for being so half assed.
Just because its a video game, does not mean that ideas, concepts from the real world cannot be applied to it. The reason why I didn't like their armor before was because of the textures, more so that its form. The change in textures to me did the trick for a few armors.
Maybe its just the person I am, I just take thing cool, give people the benefit of the doubt. I don't let things get me all bent out of shape up, because at the end of the day, disappointment is a part of life, this is no different in video games.
Farcry Deathblade
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Originally Posted by neooki
Just because its a video game, does not mean that ideas, concepts from the real world cannot be applied to it. The reason why I didn't like their armor before was because of the textures, more so that its form. The change in textures to me did the trick for a few armors.
Maybe its just the person I am, I just take thing cool, give people the benefit of the doubt. I don't let things get me all bent out of shape up, because at the end of the day, disappointment is a part of life, this is no different in video games. hey, I don't see anybody walking around in guild wars wearing jeans and a t-shirt...and while I should know that disappointment is a part of life (duh), that doesn't mean I can't complain about an issue that can and should be dealt with. After all, that's what this thread is about. We're pissed at anet for shipping out a bunch of crap armor, and they need to know about it. Seriously, if we didn't say anything about other problems in the game, they probably never would have been dealt with, and we'd be stuck with problems such as...not being able to vanquish all of nf because of hard mode removal, clipping issues, etc...get it? boko
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Originally Posted by Farcry Deathblade
boko quit talking about players showing their own designs unless you're going to do it yourself. I mean, do you seriously want me to just slap up pictures of the concept art to boot? Anet knows what we want, and that's something very detailed that isn't a freaking reskin!
I am not trying to force you to do so. I am not trying to pull the thread down or whatever you think I am doing. I always fight for the greyzone.
I am suggesting players to post designs to help the addition of new weapons/armor. I am NOT suggesting people to post design to laugh at their face like "haha! you can't design it yourself! suck it up!" That is NOT what I said or am trying to do. Don't you think that it would be better if we get a preview of what skin people want 1st? before convincing Anet of adding whatever skin? If you are asking to just complain and say that things are not good as they are and not propose anything better? then /notsigned on my part. If you are asking for things to change and that the things that people are proposing is good. Then I /signed gleefully. I dun't see the point of asking things to be changed and then go back to the same spot i.e again with the same stuff but with different textures again. That is why I asked for screens and designs. And thanks to your hero sceencaps, we do have a better view, not the best but still better than before. In that case, I would say /signed. Ps: I am sorry for being picky, but I try not to sign stuff without reading carefully 1st.
evilkingsky
/signed. I can only hope that the hero armors become available for players. Don't really care how they bring new armor in , whether by replacing some of the current ones, or by adding an entire new set for endgame or something, as long as they do it.
Farcry Deathblade
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Originally Posted by boko
Creating something new is hard. Originality is hard. Even the hero armor look similar to some stuff already existing in other materials. That is why I was suggesting that fans actually made their designs and show Anet what they want/expect. What if Anet comes up and do some new skins but which the players are going to label as "reskins" once again? And thanks to the hero pictures, we have a better view of what people are asking on this thread. True, not the best, but still better than nothing.
Creating something original is not hard. At all. Look at the thread concerning Destroyer armor. Boom. Something original...right there. This thread is for requesting a change (or additions) only. You want pictures? Start a new thread. Either /sign it, /notsign it, or leave. I'll even say it one more time: players want originality, they want something different, they want something that says "I grinded for 12 hours and spent 60k on this, and damn do I look good." And if Anet were to produce a mere 4 fresh sets per class...that's 4 chances that you'll find at least one thing you like for your new character.
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