Norn Tournament Builds, Tips, Questions [Merged]
Da Rk Bl Ad E
I did it as a warrior/necro with [grenth's balance][riposte][deadly riposte][sever artery][gash][bonettis defense] then some optional skills.
when you get to magni spam riposte / deadly riposte and gash, if your health gets to around 200 use grenth's balance then rinse and repeat.
when you get to magni spam riposte / deadly riposte and gash, if your health gets to around 200 use grenth's balance then rinse and repeat.
crucifix
Yeah GB is a great choice. I beat bison with a melandru derv with dshot.
mastar of warrior
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have to stand in the right area for it to work.
have to stand in the right area for it to work.
Richardt
I'm pretty sure Ritualists are Faction based, and he needs Proph/EotN
Now this thread has some builds that won't fit your criteria, but hopefully it'll give you some general strategies that you can exploit:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...t=Norn+Tourney
For a warrior, the best build is the Grenth's Balance/Reposte Spammer. Make sure you have an interupt as well for the casters, and try and fit in an enchant removal vs. them as well. Proph and EotN has both of these types of skills, and since GB and both Repostes are core, you should be good to go.
Now this thread has some builds that won't fit your criteria, but hopefully it'll give you some general strategies that you can exploit:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...t=Norn+Tourney
For a warrior, the best build is the Grenth's Balance/Reposte Spammer. Make sure you have an interupt as well for the casters, and try and fit in an enchant removal vs. them as well. Proph and EotN has both of these types of skills, and since GB and both Repostes are core, you should be good to go.
SOF
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NFT Spirit Spammer ftw ^^
Got through it first time using it, and I didn't even use it properly *Cba to read the guide :P*
NFT Spirit Spammer ftw ^^
Got through it first time using it, and I didn't even use it properly *Cba to read the guide :P*
mastar of warrior
those i posted works wonder
ImAgainstIt
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richardt
I'm pretty sure Ritualists are Faction based, and he needs Proph/EotN
Now this thread has some builds that won't fit your criteria, but hopefully it'll give you some general strategies that you can exploit:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...t=Norn+Tourney
For a warrior, the best build is the Grenth's Balance/Reposte Spammer. Make sure you have an interupt as well for the casters, and try and fit in an enchant removal vs. them as well. Proph and EotN has both of these types of skills, and since GB and both Repostes are core, you should be good to go. ah thanks, ive got both repostes, and can you suggest something good for interrupting and enchant removal? thanks for the link and suggestions
and thanks everyone for the warrior/n builds, ill give them a shot if all else fails
one final thing, with grenths balance how do i know when to use it? like will be sure if they have more than me? other than being really low on health, when will i know? like does it do it on % of the bar or on units of health?
Now this thread has some builds that won't fit your criteria, but hopefully it'll give you some general strategies that you can exploit:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...t=Norn+Tourney
For a warrior, the best build is the Grenth's Balance/Reposte Spammer. Make sure you have an interupt as well for the casters, and try and fit in an enchant removal vs. them as well. Proph and EotN has both of these types of skills, and since GB and both Repostes are core, you should be good to go. ah thanks, ive got both repostes, and can you suggest something good for interrupting and enchant removal? thanks for the link and suggestions
and thanks everyone for the warrior/n builds, ill give them a shot if all else fails
one final thing, with grenths balance how do i know when to use it? like will be sure if they have more than me? other than being really low on health, when will i know? like does it do it on % of the bar or on units of health?
Richardt
[distracting blow] for interupts
[rend enchantment] or [strip enchantment] for enchant removal. I'd prolly go with strip since most foes using enchants are the monks.
[rend enchantment] or [strip enchantment] for enchant removal. I'd prolly go with strip since most foes using enchants are the monks.
ImAgainstIt
ah thanks alot for thelp, just noticed we are in the same alliance too.
Da Rk Bl Ad E
If your health is getting low and your opponent still has quite high health then use grenth's balance, but with magni use it when your hp is around 200 becaus he crit's very high in bear form.
k3s73n
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Originally Posted by mastar of warrior
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have to stand in the right area for it to work. It was Easyyy with this build , just spam.
First you summon the Assa or Shout at your opponent and while the enemy is knocked down or is busy with the sin spam your spirits. If your opponent is a caster - start with Dissonance , if it's melee or ranger - start with Shadowsong, then just spam the others.
When you face the Bison just "move him like dwarf" until his form ends, then assassin, shadowsong and he's over.
Thanks very much for the build
have to stand in the right area for it to work. It was Easyyy with this build , just spam.
First you summon the Assa or Shout at your opponent and while the enemy is knocked down or is busy with the sin spam your spirits. If your opponent is a caster - start with Dissonance , if it's melee or ranger - start with Shadowsong, then just spam the others.
When you face the Bison just "move him like dwarf" until his form ends, then assassin, shadowsong and he's over.
Thanks very much for the build
bengance
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Originally Posted by //RogueNine
[skill]Mist Form[/skill][skill]Glyph of Sacrifice[/skill][skill]Meteor Shower[/skill][skill]Bed of Coals[/skill][skill]Frozen Burst[/skill][skill]Flame Djinn's Haste[/skill][skill]Flame Burst[/skill][skill]Fire Attunement[/skill]
E/X
Fire Magic 16 Water 9 or above and the rest in Energy Storage. One tweak and this build becomes ubber money.
[skill]Mist Form[/skill][skill]Glyph of Sacrifice[/skill][skill]Meteor Shower[/skill][skill]Bed of Coals[/skill][skill]You Move Like a Dwarf[/skill][skill]Flame Djinn's Haste[/skill][skill]Flame Burst[/skill][skill]Fire Attunement[/skill]
Also use Superior Fire and Water as health is a non-issue.
[skill]You Move Like a Dwarf[/skill] is commonly used among many different builds - because it works so well. The faster recharge and 0 casting time make this ideal to use as an interrupt.
When fighting M.Bison, or anyone else that uses nice buffs to start, you can interrupt them by running at them immediately with Flame Djinn on and hitting [skill]You Move Like a Dwarf[/skill] before they finish casting. The crippling also keeps them in your [skill]Meteor Shower[/skill] AoE.
If you miss interrupting M Bisons bear form...just wait it out. Re-cripple him and keep up fire atunement until he reverts back. Then pulverize him with the chain.
You can run the whole tournament in less than a few minutes and never go below 50%. In theory, anyone */e could play this build if they get their energy up enough to do the chain.
E/X
Fire Magic 16 Water 9 or above and the rest in Energy Storage. One tweak and this build becomes ubber money.
[skill]Mist Form[/skill][skill]Glyph of Sacrifice[/skill][skill]Meteor Shower[/skill][skill]Bed of Coals[/skill][skill]You Move Like a Dwarf[/skill][skill]Flame Djinn's Haste[/skill][skill]Flame Burst[/skill][skill]Fire Attunement[/skill]
Also use Superior Fire and Water as health is a non-issue.
[skill]You Move Like a Dwarf[/skill] is commonly used among many different builds - because it works so well. The faster recharge and 0 casting time make this ideal to use as an interrupt.
When fighting M.Bison, or anyone else that uses nice buffs to start, you can interrupt them by running at them immediately with Flame Djinn on and hitting [skill]You Move Like a Dwarf[/skill] before they finish casting. The crippling also keeps them in your [skill]Meteor Shower[/skill] AoE.
If you miss interrupting M Bisons bear form...just wait it out. Re-cripple him and keep up fire atunement until he reverts back. Then pulverize him with the chain.
You can run the whole tournament in less than a few minutes and never go below 50%. In theory, anyone */e could play this build if they get their energy up enough to do the chain.
abyssruler
im probably gonna get flak for this but since i dont have nightfall but i do have the other 2 sets, ive come up with a pretty sweet build for a ranger. I changed my secondary to a necro to remove enchants
Marksmanship 10+1
Expertise 11+1+3
Wilderness survival 10+2
Poison arrow {E}
Sloth hunter's shot
Distracting shot
Troll unguent
"You move like a dwarf"
whirling defense
Remove enchantments
Pin down
This build works quite easily, run in, poison arrow the dude and use move like a dwarf, then you run circles around him and reapply cripple and poison as necessary.
For Melee, poison, cripple, kite = dead
this works for the dervish dudes too, use whirling defense and trolls if you need some healing. IF they are constantly crippled, healing and reapply your status effects wont be too tough.
For Magic users, this one is a little tougher, but still doable with relatively high health. Apply poison constantly, use troll whenever it recharges. Sooner or later they are gonna just spam their 5 energy skill on you. Then you wipe the floor with him.
Vekk: Interrupt his shatterstone
Cynn: Interrupt the glyph with d-shot, if not, you are gonna have problems killing
Argo: Use the remove enchantment to get rid of his annoying sliver armor etc.
For Mesmers, if its the nightfall guy, the one who talks a lot, just hit him with 1 poison arrow, wait and watch him spam everything he got at ya. Troll and sooner or later he is gonna run out of energy, when that happens, drop him. For Gwen, just dps her down with sloth hunter and the shout.
For Rangers/ Pet users. Ignore pet, poison master, cripple master and use troll + whirling if necessary. They die fast, though u must interrupt their apply poison/troll unguent.
For Necros, poison, d-shot spells that might hurt ya, start using unguent at 300 hp and just use the shout to take em down, works everytime.
For monks, this build is kinda weak, but use poison and slothhunter + cripple. keep up your unguent, when they spam their energy off, take em down. For danika, cripple her buds and apply poison to all 3 if possible, then dps 1 down. Danika is more of a battle of attrition, keep your unguent up, whirling up, and you just might win. With her, i have a 50:50 ratio of winning. The rest is easy
Finally for magni, once u see him, pin down, poison arrow. Doesnt matter if he is in bear form or not. Keep poison. Then start running around the ring letting him degen to death. Not very quick but works. To kill him, pin down first+ poison. Once he uses purge, use your shout and reapply poison. Rinse and repeat, he will go down, in the 20 odd times I fought with him, i never died once. Note if he is gonna hit you, turn on whirling, cripple and start running. Then use troll immediately once there is some distance. Have fun farming your tokens.
Note: I never got a chance to fight Joko, but i suppose the same tactics for magni apply. Just rush him down.
Marksmanship 10+1
Expertise 11+1+3
Wilderness survival 10+2
Poison arrow {E}
Sloth hunter's shot
Distracting shot
Troll unguent
"You move like a dwarf"
whirling defense
Remove enchantments
Pin down
This build works quite easily, run in, poison arrow the dude and use move like a dwarf, then you run circles around him and reapply cripple and poison as necessary.
For Melee, poison, cripple, kite = dead
this works for the dervish dudes too, use whirling defense and trolls if you need some healing. IF they are constantly crippled, healing and reapply your status effects wont be too tough.
For Magic users, this one is a little tougher, but still doable with relatively high health. Apply poison constantly, use troll whenever it recharges. Sooner or later they are gonna just spam their 5 energy skill on you. Then you wipe the floor with him.
Vekk: Interrupt his shatterstone
Cynn: Interrupt the glyph with d-shot, if not, you are gonna have problems killing
Argo: Use the remove enchantment to get rid of his annoying sliver armor etc.
For Mesmers, if its the nightfall guy, the one who talks a lot, just hit him with 1 poison arrow, wait and watch him spam everything he got at ya. Troll and sooner or later he is gonna run out of energy, when that happens, drop him. For Gwen, just dps her down with sloth hunter and the shout.
For Rangers/ Pet users. Ignore pet, poison master, cripple master and use troll + whirling if necessary. They die fast, though u must interrupt their apply poison/troll unguent.
For Necros, poison, d-shot spells that might hurt ya, start using unguent at 300 hp and just use the shout to take em down, works everytime.
For monks, this build is kinda weak, but use poison and slothhunter + cripple. keep up your unguent, when they spam their energy off, take em down. For danika, cripple her buds and apply poison to all 3 if possible, then dps 1 down. Danika is more of a battle of attrition, keep your unguent up, whirling up, and you just might win. With her, i have a 50:50 ratio of winning. The rest is easy
Finally for magni, once u see him, pin down, poison arrow. Doesnt matter if he is in bear form or not. Keep poison. Then start running around the ring letting him degen to death. Not very quick but works. To kill him, pin down first+ poison. Once he uses purge, use your shout and reapply poison. Rinse and repeat, he will go down, in the 20 odd times I fought with him, i never died once. Note if he is gonna hit you, turn on whirling, cripple and start running. Then use troll immediately once there is some distance. Have fun farming your tokens.
Note: I never got a chance to fight Joko, but i suppose the same tactics for magni apply. Just rush him down.
SaDuFam
If you have max all the reputation titles try this on your skill bar
(1) You Move Like a Dwarf
(2) Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support
(3) Summon Ruby Djinn
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If you are a mesmer try
(4) Visions of Regret
(5) Leech Signet
(6) Ether Signet
(7) Drain Enchanment
(8) Ether Feast
Don't forget to put on the Slayer of All Norm title for +100HP.
On average this combo takes 3 minutes for one token.
The first 3 EoTN skills should be adequate to do the all the winnings. The (4) will make it faster with right timing. Add the others just in case you mis-judged the timing or have been distracted. This will allow you time to wait for the first three skills to rechrage or to regen your energy.
Except for Magni, the other opponents can be defeated rather quickly using (1), (2) (3) and (4) (or any other orders to suit) may be (1) or (2) again with successive quick tabbing without giving the opponent the opportunity to response. Victory message will appear before the opponent can travel half the distance to get you or cast more than 2 attacks at you.
Enchancment removal skill is handy if you fails to interrupt your opponent enchantment skill.
For Magni you may have to repeat the three EoTN skills 2 to 3 times if you fails to interrupt his transformation.
You Move Like a Dwarf will keep Magni away from you.
Ruby Djinn will trick Magni in using Purge Signet and provide constant damage without you having to manage it.
Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support will interrupt and spike.
Both Djinn and Vanguard Assassin will also be your meat shields.
(1) You Move Like a Dwarf
(2) Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support
(3) Summon Ruby Djinn
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If you are a mesmer try
(4) Visions of Regret
(5) Leech Signet
(6) Ether Signet
(7) Drain Enchanment
(8) Ether Feast
Don't forget to put on the Slayer of All Norm title for +100HP.
On average this combo takes 3 minutes for one token.
The first 3 EoTN skills should be adequate to do the all the winnings. The (4) will make it faster with right timing. Add the others just in case you mis-judged the timing or have been distracted. This will allow you time to wait for the first three skills to rechrage or to regen your energy.
Except for Magni, the other opponents can be defeated rather quickly using (1), (2) (3) and (4) (or any other orders to suit) may be (1) or (2) again with successive quick tabbing without giving the opponent the opportunity to response. Victory message will appear before the opponent can travel half the distance to get you or cast more than 2 attacks at you.
Enchancment removal skill is handy if you fails to interrupt your opponent enchantment skill.
For Magni you may have to repeat the three EoTN skills 2 to 3 times if you fails to interrupt his transformation.
You Move Like a Dwarf will keep Magni away from you.
Ruby Djinn will trick Magni in using Purge Signet and provide constant damage without you having to manage it.
Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support will interrupt and spike.
Both Djinn and Vanguard Assassin will also be your meat shields.
Lord Zion
Ive read all pages of this thread and all builds, im gonna post this because nobody posted yet and its even easier then the rit spirit spammer.
Mesmer/Ritualist
Level: 20
Fast Casting: 13 (12+1)
Illusion Magic: 16 (12+4)
Signet of Illusions [Elite] (Illusion Magic)
Your next 3 Spell(s) use your Illusion attribute instead of their normal attribute.
Energy:0 Cast:2 Recharge:5
Explosive Growth (Spawning Power)
For 15..51 seconds, whenever you create a creature, up to 5 foes near that creature are struck for 20..56 lightning damage.
Energy:5 Cast:1.18 Recharge:45
Boon of Creation (Spawning Power)
For 15..51 seconds, whenever you create a creature, you gain 5..41 Health and 1..5 Energy.
Energy:10 Cast:1.18 Recharge:45
Arcane Echo (Mesmer other)
If you cast a Spell in the next 20 seconds, Arcane Echo is replaced with that Spell for 20 seconds. Arcane Echo ends prematurely if you use a non-Spell skill.
Energy:15 Cast:1.18 Recharge:20
Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support ( )
Summon a level 10..20 Ebon Vanguard Assassin that has Iron Palm, Fox Fangs and Nine Tail Strike. This summoned Assassin Shadow Steps to target foe. If that foe is a Charr the Assassin lives for 20..30 seconds. If not the Assassin lives for 10..15 seconds
Energy:10 Cast:0.59 Recharge:30
Summon Ruby Djinn ( )
Summon a Level 10..20 Ruby Djinn that lives for 30..60 seconds and has Immolate. You can Only have 1 Asura Summon active at a time
Energy:10 Cast:1.77 Recharge:60
Vital Weapon (Communing)
For 5..29 seconds, target ally has a Vital Weapon and has +40..148 maximum Health.
Energy:5 Cast:0.59 Recharge:2
"You Move Like a Dwarf!" ( )
Target foe is knocked down and takes 30..80 damage. When that foe gets up, it is Crippled for 5..15 seconds.
Energy:10 Cast:0 Recharge:10
Usage:
Obvioulsy cast SoI before you cast anything.
1. Cast SoI and then Explosive Growth+Boon of Creation in the safe area.
2. Get to the doorstep (b4 aggroing the enemy) and SoI+ruby djinn+arcane echo
3. Cast SoI again and hit Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support (twice because of arcane echo)
4. Cast "You Move Like a Dwarf!" just to make sure he wont get to you.
For M.Bison:
Steps 1, 2, 3 and 4.
He wont die, so cast SoI again and use Vital Weapon on ruby djinn
Use "You Move Like a Dwarf!" to run away and wait for arcane echo and Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support recharge and do it one more time
He will be with low life keep using "You Move Like a Dwarf!" until he resign and you win.
Very very easy!
Edit: BTW i have vanguard, norn and asura ranks lvl 3 or lower.
Mesmer/Ritualist
Level: 20
Fast Casting: 13 (12+1)
Illusion Magic: 16 (12+4)
Signet of Illusions [Elite] (Illusion Magic)
Your next 3 Spell(s) use your Illusion attribute instead of their normal attribute.
Energy:0 Cast:2 Recharge:5
Explosive Growth (Spawning Power)
For 15..51 seconds, whenever you create a creature, up to 5 foes near that creature are struck for 20..56 lightning damage.
Energy:5 Cast:1.18 Recharge:45
Boon of Creation (Spawning Power)
For 15..51 seconds, whenever you create a creature, you gain 5..41 Health and 1..5 Energy.
Energy:10 Cast:1.18 Recharge:45
Arcane Echo (Mesmer other)
If you cast a Spell in the next 20 seconds, Arcane Echo is replaced with that Spell for 20 seconds. Arcane Echo ends prematurely if you use a non-Spell skill.
Energy:15 Cast:1.18 Recharge:20
Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support ( )
Summon a level 10..20 Ebon Vanguard Assassin that has Iron Palm, Fox Fangs and Nine Tail Strike. This summoned Assassin Shadow Steps to target foe. If that foe is a Charr the Assassin lives for 20..30 seconds. If not the Assassin lives for 10..15 seconds
Energy:10 Cast:0.59 Recharge:30
Summon Ruby Djinn ( )
Summon a Level 10..20 Ruby Djinn that lives for 30..60 seconds and has Immolate. You can Only have 1 Asura Summon active at a time
Energy:10 Cast:1.77 Recharge:60
Vital Weapon (Communing)
For 5..29 seconds, target ally has a Vital Weapon and has +40..148 maximum Health.
Energy:5 Cast:0.59 Recharge:2
"You Move Like a Dwarf!" ( )
Target foe is knocked down and takes 30..80 damage. When that foe gets up, it is Crippled for 5..15 seconds.
Energy:10 Cast:0 Recharge:10
Usage:
Obvioulsy cast SoI before you cast anything.
1. Cast SoI and then Explosive Growth+Boon of Creation in the safe area.
2. Get to the doorstep (b4 aggroing the enemy) and SoI+ruby djinn+arcane echo
3. Cast SoI again and hit Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support (twice because of arcane echo)
4. Cast "You Move Like a Dwarf!" just to make sure he wont get to you.
For M.Bison:
Steps 1, 2, 3 and 4.
He wont die, so cast SoI again and use Vital Weapon on ruby djinn
Use "You Move Like a Dwarf!" to run away and wait for arcane echo and Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support recharge and do it one more time
He will be with low life keep using "You Move Like a Dwarf!" until he resign and you win.
Very very easy!
Edit: BTW i have vanguard, norn and asura ranks lvl 3 or lower.
AngelWJedi
this is my first post so i hope i'm doing it right. I found this on guru in the derv build section. with a little timing it helped me beat the tourny for the first time.
{skill}winds{skill}ebon escape{skill}backfire{skill}cracked armor{skill}power spike{skill}signet of disruption{skill}conjure of nightmare{skill}conjure of phantasm{skill}
12 for both ill and dom
place winds near but not to close to door and lock on it then inch into through the gate. once door starts to close use ebon escape. you end up on the starter side. then just use mes skills to beat the npc. doesnt work on melonni for some reason and razah wont move. but with a little waiting time i beat magni quick easly. friend used it for her ranger and it worked for her too. i did replace cracked armor for a heal since my derv hp wasnt to higher and use any type of weapons that give you lots of eng. hope this okay for my first post.
{skill}winds{skill}ebon escape{skill}backfire{skill}cracked armor{skill}power spike{skill}signet of disruption{skill}conjure of nightmare{skill}conjure of phantasm{skill}
12 for both ill and dom
place winds near but not to close to door and lock on it then inch into through the gate. once door starts to close use ebon escape. you end up on the starter side. then just use mes skills to beat the npc. doesnt work on melonni for some reason and razah wont move. but with a little waiting time i beat magni quick easly. friend used it for her ranger and it worked for her too. i did replace cracked armor for a heal since my derv hp wasnt to higher and use any type of weapons that give you lots of eng. hope this okay for my first post.
TurinPT
Has anyone fought Zho recently I've been trying for hours but she never shows up, might have been removed...
Dervish Kid
[Any/RT;Owgk8YQC4KykNZ503E50ZT10A4uI]
Makes this norn tourney go by with a breeze.
Steps:
1. Cast the the spirit spells right behind the door.
2. Take a few steps after it has opened and when all of your spirits are down cast draw spirits.
3. Aggro whoever u have to fight and put painful bond on them but dont aggro them towards the spirits.
4. Then cast "YMLaD" and the Ebon Support Skill.
5. Sit down and watch.
Makes this norn tourney go by with a breeze.
Steps:
1. Cast the the spirit spells right behind the door.
2. Take a few steps after it has opened and when all of your spirits are down cast draw spirits.
3. Aggro whoever u have to fight and put painful bond on them but dont aggro them towards the spirits.
4. Then cast "YMLaD" and the Ebon Support Skill.
5. Sit down and watch.