You know, whats ironic about our virtual lives!?

Even though virtual life is for many supposed to be an scape goat from real life, the horrifying truths and rules of real life seems to echo within the dark depths of cyberspace, where somewhere, my characters data is stored on servers that Anet can choose to close at any point, and thus ending my life.


A big fantasy for me, has always been the desire to have an online game, that will never die out. A game that will always be played and populated by other people. My flesh is erelic. I will eventually die, and maggots will feast on me... But my hopes was to that my characters would live on.


That dream has been shattered with GW. GW2 is on the way. Exactly how long is GW1 supposed to manage itself... I wanted my virtual character to be there forever. Alive.

Virtual characters are amazing. they dont have the turmoil and crappy things that sucks about real life. they dont decay. they dont physically age. they dont grow old, and are not left to die on a hospital bed with tubes in and out of their bodies while they look pathethic and helpless only being kept alive by a grey medical device that pumps air into your body, so you wont choke on the nutrition that is being entered into you from a feeding tube.

Im weak, fat and slobby and slow in real life. my virtual character is tall, beautiful and strong.

but now that character will die, and the world around it will die.

What some of you people dont seem to get, is that while the game might still have servers running, everyone will play GW2 instead! Just like with Diablo 1 and 2! When diablo 2 came out, Diablo 1 died.
And thats it...

Its over for guild wars. it was all for nothing. I wanted to live forever through my characters. I dont care if you think thats pathethic, because thats what I wanted to!

wow, I really hope your not pinning your imortality to a game. if you are you might want to hit the gym, goto school, meet real friends, have a family and impact humanity in a way that is more important than a game. Otherwise those tubes and dirt you fear will only eat at you and increase the dispondancy you feel, till you can't look at yourself in the mirror anymore.

The truth is games are fleeting and ment to die as new advances in technology happen. Diablo to Diablo 2 was a natural progression as is GW to GW2. embrase change and move on.

Adapt and overcome

Actually, I don't think so mon.

I know I will not buy GW2, because I've invested so much time and mental effort into guildwars, and I think GW2 is just to similar to WoW in my mind.

Seek psychological help.

Thats what I hate about the games industry. its always technology.. technology.

Look at the movie industry - Casablanca, Citizen Kane and Godfather. These are old movies, who still have large active communities. They old and where limited by technology(somehow)... but it doesnt hold them back.


why does have to be like that with games?


Some people say that some games.. like WoW... Counter-strike.. perhaps halo 3, will be played for the next 100 years by hardcore players, and make sure the online community will be there.


why cant guild wars 1?
Why do they have to ruin a good thing? Why do ArenaNet(or perhaps its NCsoft) greed go in the way for what is the right thing to do?

I dont want to adapt. I wanna live my normal life, but have comfort in my virtual strong masucline beautiful character who wields a sword. childish fantasy? perhaps.. but harmless none the less. and besides! Doesnt most people in the world get attached to useless materialistic junk? at least the virtual character i have created is shaped by me... that has to count for something.

yes gw will die, i give it a year after gw2 is out just to support the few stragglers that don't want to move on.

oh wells there goes 2000+ hrs down the bin time to move on to another game, like every other mmo out there.

First off ANET has said they will maintain the servers as long as there is a community.

Second compairing guild wars to casablanca is quite a strech there buddy. Great, classic movies should be compared to classic video games (if any at all). I know alot of people who still play pac-man and space-invaders.

Third, you odon't have to adapt if you don't want too, but if you don't life sucks worse then usual.

last, yes i like my characto, love the game. define my life by it, no. if it comes down to playing with my son or helping him from a fall and I lose LS, oops life goes on. Some things are more important then a vertual beautiful charactor.

Ex:
Real family >>>>> Sims
Real Friends >>>>> online friends
real sex >>>>>> online porn

Why cant they just let us download the game and our characters and let us host our own servers?

@ the OP,

Life (real or virtual) will end. It's a very simple fact.

If GW doesn't grow into GW2 it will most definitely die. Anything that doesn't grow, will die. It is unfair to keep a game (or anything) from evolving simply because of personal fears. How would you feel if your parents keep you in a cradle your entire life because they don't want you to become an adult ever!

Sounds like you have more issue than not wanting to see your character or GW die. Please for your own sake, talk to a professional. I agree with Zinger, you do need help.

I think having a toon on a server whilst on your deathbed will be much less comforting than you think. Given that anyone can control that character with the right access, it's not really a good representation of you. It might be a good representation of time you've spent, but when the efforts of that time can be deleted quite easily one is left wondering the value of the pursuit.

To misquote Woody Allen

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my toon... I want to achieve it through not dying."

Impermanence is, was, and shall continue to be a facet of our existence. We're mortal. Our world is mortal. Once you accept it, you can find that which is truly important in the lifetime you are granted.

You say all has been for nothing. Have you enjoyed playing this game? Have you overcome obstacles, bested challenges, partied with friends, grown as a character and as a person, trained your mind with tactics and strategies, and enjoyed every minute of this game? If so, then it has served its purpose well, as you can cherish the memories of good times throughout your life.

And remember, immortality, at least in a single, stagnant form, sucks. If your characters remained immortal upon your death, they would never be played, never adventure again, as their control, essence, impetus, whatever you wish to refer to it as, would be gone.

Live for the moments you are granted, exist in harmony with others, and have a damn good time doing it. That's all we mortals can do.

No. The beautiful thing is that, when you got a fantasy like GW, you dont need to feel bad about being dead beat with an ordinary job, who never made something of himself or never became rich or important or whatever. because you got the game, which you can satisfy your fame and glory.
and then you go on with your ordinary life.
if anything GW is a tool to satisfy the ambitions you never managed to take in RL.

Also your example is not true. im not saying that GW cant grow. i just dont want it to die. they could keep doing expansions... they could release it to the public with adds... they could do alot of stuff to keep it alive and well.




I just want to know the character is there. any physical object will eventually decay. this is given. computer, cloth, pictures, urns, glass, houses, cars... all things. but once you unleash something in cyberspace it will stay there forever.
this is the beauty of the internet. when its out there, it cant die. we just need to make sure that GW does not kill all the data.


if we could get our characters and local host RA and TR and GvG matches it would be great... then they wouldnt have to pay for server upkeep!

What the hell...

my character might never would be played but it would be a blue print of me being there.


some people think that the goal of life is to have kids and pass on your genetic code. i dont see the point in this, because WW3... Disease.. hunger.. starvation.. war. eventually.. like with the dinosaures we will die and return from where we have come.. earth. unless the earth is completely destroyed.. somewhere there must be servers that will keep the internet a float..

or actually... the internet acts dependedly on itself right? There is no master server that keeps the internet running is there? it runs by itself.. and even if all life was lost.. it would still be there. my blue print.

all our off springs and future of humanity, through the generations will kill each in wars. passing on a family is pointless. only achieving something for yourself is worth anything.

you cant use money, fame and fortune when your gone. but your character is yourself in a virtual way. its your own immortality but without having the agony of having to live it... while being lonely and depressed as ages drive by, and lifes pointlessness fills you up.

They still have a lot riding on that technology. It's a pigeon that lays golden eggs.

Anyway, remind yourself that escapism can be very unhealthy sometimes. The time people spend getting away from their problems is time not spent resolving the very issues eating at them. It's just not a good move to let an open wound or infection go untreated.

Whoa.. you're really messed up...
I don't really think that most people play MMOs to escape their life 'cause they hate how they were born in reality. My life's totally fine, and I still play this game.

Here's some advice: Unless you're horribly deformed like the elephant man or something, I'd say around 80% of how attractive people see you as is determined by your own actions, not how you were born. There's the obvious eating healthy and exercising, but you also just have to take care of yourself, develop good style, and have confidence.

Unless they were born really messed up, whether or not you're ugly just comes down to whether or not you have a strong enough will to do what you need to.

Physical ability is even more like that, how you were born only determines how hard you have to work compared to others to be as athletic as them.

In the end just trying to live your life inside a freakin' video game is only the easy way out to get what you want without putting in a real effort... but video games are just meant for casual fun, they can't replace reality, no matter how much you want them to. No matter how good of a game someone creates, in the end you'll still just be someone staring at a computer monitor covered in pretty colors.

And even if through all of your efforts you still can't make yourself strong or attractive, it doesn't matter, as long as you like who you are, and you can still go out and have fun. And if you do like who you are, and therefore have the all-important confidence, other people will still like you too (unless you're an ass).

Its Just A Game



Just a random googled pic to show real life

^^ Agree!

To the OP. Why so much pessimism? Be happy and enjoy the game ........ it is only a "game".

This thread makes me appreciate the how misconstrued people's perception of reality can be and how people are making millions off of that fact.

Why not try to improve your life? If you don't like it, just make an effort to make it more enjoyable :S

You say that you're "weak, fat and slobby and slow in real life", then why don't you make some exercise? You could grow to be exactly like your toon...except in height lol

You have to put the same effort in real life that you put in Gw. Just swap monsters and quests with people and work. Try to fight for what you want, try to change your life, and try not to refuge yourself like you do.

Everything is possible if you want too.

I find it funny that every time someone comes in with alternative ways of thinking or people who have different view points about life, suddenly is supposed to seek psychiatric help or "stop living your life in a video game".

thats not what its about.


in essence:

fan loves game. fan does not see need for game sequel. game also needs players to keep game afloat.

developers/publisher. dont care anymore about game. they make sequel to milk. all players move to game sequel. original game becomes obselete. fan becomes lonely and sad.

the end.

what a sad sad RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO

i dont see how that will make life more interesting mate. people dont fight with swords in real life.

I considered joining the army or just go somewhere in the middle east to get blown up by a landmine.. but im to afraid that I'll live. i dont wanna be blind or dead or disabled for the rest of my life.

i envy does people who could just go to a big war.. like world war 2.. or vietnam and just die fast and easy. at least fight for something and feel alive.

these days our goverments are run by whiny little sissis who cant agree on anything... just delaying whats ultimately to come - the end of us all.

I'm pretty much sure I can say this without much discrepencies with anyone..

RL>Video Game, and that's the truth buddy.

im not saying that aint right. But I like how GW1 compliments my RL. im not going to live my life in GW1! I just want it there. i dont think ill even play it that much. I just want to know that my character is there.

call it an insurence. for if I should die(stabbed or shot or something). it makes me calm knowing that my char is there.. you know?

On second thought, you might be beyond psychiatric help.

...I call foul. Lawnmower has been anti-GW before, wouldn't surprise me if he's trolling.

So the problem isn't that you hate your life... but that the greatest thing you'll ever accomplish in it is maxing out a video game character? That's still pretty sad and messed up

This is reason enough to close this thread, and recommend this man/boy to a psychiatrist.

If leaving a piece of you behind is your main concern, I think GW is the wrong way to go about it. If you really want to do something like that make a time capsule out of a thermos or something. That will last longer and be physical evidence you existed at one point of time. Of course I think you need to work on the physically existing part first. If all said disasters did happen no servers would save your precious character but a stainless steel container would last several hundred years.

0800 Samaritans

...

Do you even know anything about psychiatry? You shouldnt joke about it, and try act like you can diagnose people online(thats just completely dumb).

As far as anti-GW, well whatever. It seems everyone here screams witch witch, if it does have anything to do with topics YOU want to whine about, which I see plenty off.
This time zinger.. don't give me a brain tumor. Just go away if you cant add anything constructive to the discussion!


lacanser - I dont see why the thread should be closed. I feel its a valid topic, even though Guru is often being sterotyped as a place where threads get closed for little to no reason. Im just sick of threads whining about how much use of reskins there are in GWEN. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

Lawnmower,

You know what the sadist thing is?
The fact that video games and real life are VERY similar if not the same. It WILL end. There is nothing you can do about it.

A question: Can the internet crash? Is it possible to disable the entire internet?


The thing is that I dont know what to leave behind when I die... I like my character in GW because it represents myself, is cool, i made a lot of friends with that character, it looks really epic and timeless with a big sword and shield...

its just these things not used in our current world. I cant see how I would be able to shape myself or have any physical things in RL that where as cool. i dont have any or have seen any tangible objects I could put in a stainless steel glass cage.

Im atheist. I dont believe in heaven and hell. from earth we have come. from earth we will become. I just want something of me to stay. something that is mine that none can touch with.


my GW characters could be that. its mine, i made it, i shaped the characters history. only i know the password. and if people would continue to play the world it would be like(in theory) that my character was still alive and well in the everlasting wars in GW... long after i am physically dead. The character would be all that survives me.

You see what I mean?

Zinger's the man.

Anyway, about OP:

That "forever" MMO already exists. It is called Real Life. It isn't a perfect game by any means. There is a LOT of grind, a lot of work, and it is stuck in PvP mode... once you die in the game, your character gets deleted. It's a dangerous world in Real Life, but there are rewards too. There is beauty and wonder out there, if you are willing to seize it through hard work. The graphics are pretty good for the most part, some character models are butt-ugly but fortunately Real Life already has a hairstylist, appearance changer, and a lot of things that GW doesn't. None of it is instanced, which is a bit unusual, and unfortunately you can't acquire a mount until level 16 or so, depending on your server. That leaves a lot of dependency on higher level players helping you out your first 18 or so levels. Unfortunately, Real Life is not fair and many players dislike this fact. There are many griefers out there, however, you should be able to do fine anyway. There is EXTREME character customization and many, many alliances to gain faction with... democrats, republicans, christians, muslims, americans, etc. The combat system is a bit lacking however, it relies much more on reflexes and character strength then player skill, but most of all whatever gear you have. I recommend you give it a try... it is free to get started and although there are monthly fees, they only apply to people who own their own segment of virtual real-estate to play on. Real Life is incredibly open ended and I definitely recommend at least giving it a try.

Well, if this really isn't a joke, as long as your not actually some old guy you could become an artist. That's a good way to leave something behind.
Of course, if you actually think that a video game character is something to base the worth of your life on, you really don't have much of a life, and art in itself won't fix that.
So, stop playing the game and LIIIIVVE!

The game has your life in a vice-grip, break it, BREAK IT!!
Now start exercising, clean yourself up, and talk to random strangers.

And to all the fat people out there; it's always really hard exercising at first, but it gets easier the more you do it (unless you constantly up the exercising, which isn't necessary unless you want constant improvement, since staying at the level of exercise your at will keep you in the condition your currently in.)

Disabling the server and back up server with your character on it would be much easier. Point is your chasing a pipe dream. Especially since you don't believe in an afterlife you should be experiencing life around you for the short time your here. The key to immortality isn't through GuildWars, this is an absolute fact.

An unused character on a server somewhere would be as meaningful a legacy as $5.00 in a disused bank account. Even less so, as at least the money might gain interest if not eaten by bank fees in the first month. It is human nature to want to leave something behind after death. Some choose children, some choose buildings, art or funds for good works. Why would you choose to set your sights so low? I don't know if you're trolling as has been suggested, but I do think you need a to apply a bit of perspective.

Zoloft FTW!

I dunno if it is a joke, but it does look like one...

If it is real, I am really speechless...Only thing that come to my mind is that you have probably played this game way too much, and getting way too involved into it. Please take a break, and play it more casually. It's for your own good. Being depressed about a game and getting suicidal tendencies is definitely not a good sign.

That reminds me of the funeral thing in WoW >.>

that gave me a nice chuckle.


I do live. And I dont play this game constantly.

Its just a comforting feeling that if I should die or get killed(or when i die or get killed) I have something left.

I have an okay life I think(RL that is). I just like having an extra one. I dont see how this is joke related.


WTH do you people play? the hole point of this game for me is to create my character.. my alter ego.

Games like oblivion sucks because creating characters in does games, you only interacte with the AI. you cant get responses, emotes are not meaningful and you cant.. making character customization in single player games is just pointless because no one can see who you are.

You mean:

lol?