Where Did All The "Shiny" Weapons Go?

wheres the link to that info?

Gaile Gray ate all the Shiny weapons.

Gaile Gray is using "Consume Drops!" NOOOO!!!! Hurry, we must take her down and get her green!

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IMO, there is a good and bad side to it. Some people gain from it, some people get hurt. Impossible to satisfy everyone in the game eh.

I am not uberly rich, so things being more affordable now kinda benefited me too. Saves me the time from trying to earn money all the time in game.

Like what o m g said, time to clear away my cash, getting all the nice weapons i wanted, at a fraction of what they used to cost.

Well, I suppose if everything did get cheaper you don't need millions of gold anymore either to get them.
So somewhere it may be frustrating but at the same time that amount of cash is only needed if you want to buy items that cost that much...since they are all but gone...

There is no longer shiny stuff because GW1 is already on the deathbed.

GW:EN drops most skins on a regular basis. Including the Sephis Sword, Wyvern Blade and whatever. Tyrian Sickles, Dwarven Axes - it all can be crafted or drops there.

Then GW is old, and most players are veterans of 3 campaigns. We already have everything we need, now we only need fancy stuff. Which is now easy to get. But the new armors are not all that exciting.

Rare items: Mostly rare minipets like Mallyx or Asian minis, the green and gold ones of the bday presents. Stygian Reavers might still have a price, Crystallines are quite out of fashion imo.

But nowadays only your destroyer weapon rack counts. Everything else is just eyecandy.



So what do we do? We grind for titles of all kinds to max our Hall of Monuments, in the hope to get a lot of unlocks for GW2. I already played GW a lot, thousands of hours.

Now I am told to focus on one char only, and so do I. I do useless stuff like vanquishing and capping the final missing 18 elites for legendary skillhunter and that was it. GW:EN content was cool for a very short moment, then I saw the many new grind features and the lack of real content, recycled dungeons and all that. That makes me sad.

They should finally give Tyria and Cantha Inscriptions, too, would not make it feel that useless to vanquish there. GW:EN drops most of the valuable skins of those campaigns already, no reason not to have feature (Inscriptions/Insignia) continuity between the chapters.

There in lies the problem; the fact that you DO think "Oh no a NOOB can get cool weapons now. I dont want to be on the same level as a NOOB!!!"

The whole elitist/noob thing. Your pride has you so high up on a pedestal you cant bear the fact that a so called "noob" could get the same crap as you. You cant be happy that people can get cool looking stuff without having to grind hours and hours or somehow aquire large sums of gold?

I bet that you'd probably go jump off a building if a "noob" beat you in anything. Your pride and anyone elses for that matter that cant bear to be on the same level as a "noob" is revolting, illogical, and a show of extreme imaturity. Yes I know my comment was imature; I just thought I'd stoop down to the elitists level.

And when did I ever whine that I couldnt afford the luxuries???

To me being Elite isnt having the coolest shit, its being able to understand the game, learn strategy, and adapt to situations with out whining, complaining or pouting. Look at the Revolution, the Brittish had all the cool uniforms and crap and they got their arses beat by a buch of rag tag colonists. You can say "this is a game not real life" well then your comparison of real life to the game is mute as well. If you would like another comparison that isnt real life take Star Wars; a bunch of rag tag rebels kicked the Empires arse when the empire had all the cool gadgets, spiffy ships, and better technology. Being Elite is learning to outsmart your enemy not flashing shiny wepons at it saying "ha, I beat you NOOB; I got BETTER WEAPONS THAN YOU!"

So the cool skins are a luxury. Why does it pain you so much to see the luxuries come down in price a bit so the so called "noobs" can buy em if they want? Remember this game is supposed to be a gaime of skill not grind and whos got shinier weapons. So give me ONE good reason that shiny things shouldnt be made available to some more "nooby" players, players that havent grinded for hours, and accumulated vast amounts of gold.

Is it because it isnt fair QQ? Why isnt it fair? Cause they havent spent as many hours grinding for it as you? SO FREAKING WHAT CRY A RIVER. Do you think they dont deserve it? Who are you to decide what someone deserves. Or is it because "QQ Cause I want to be the one with the cool weapons, I dont want to be on the same level as a noob. I need to feel like a princess. I want to be recognized for my hours and hours of GRIND QQ" If you want to be recognized then go do something worthwhile in Real Life not grind on Guild Wars.

And to you booooYa whos to say you cant still farm or chest run for the not so easy to get weapons. Im pretty sure that the weapons you refer to are still alot more rare than the dang raven staffs that drop or a dadao sword. If they are a little more comon you can just farm alot more of them and sell alot more of them so in the long run youll be makeing jsut about as much gold cause you will be selling more at a reduced price with is about equal to less at a more expensive price; until it becomes too comon, which inevitably will happen. but you should have nice fat pockets by then.

And this Asshat here as you saw so fit to call me is more than just a casual player. Ive put more hours into this game than is probably healthy for me. And I never insulted anyone for the way they played their game. I insulted his logic behind his reason for playing the game. He can go ahead and farm to his hearts content I dont give a shit. I dont care how ANYONE plays. its up to them. What I do give a shit about is the fact that so called "noobs" being able to buy more "shiny" skinned weapons is offensive to him. Again who are you or anyone else to say what someone can or cant have in a game.

If anet wants everyone to have Crystaline swords so what. If they want a white non max totally unmodded raven staff to be the most expensive weapon in the game so freaking what. You can keep playing your game however you want to. Quit whining about "noobs" being able to get cool shit. It doesnt hurt you in any way, it just might be more of a challenge for you to get rediculous amounts of gold. Think of it as a challenge. You arent entitled to rediculous amounts of gold for spending hours grinding anyway.

I think all that is the cold hard truth. Can you handle it?

Now ensues the Rebuttals

Once upon a time, there was a magical place. Where everyone wanted to use their hard earned gold pieces to buy expensive and shiny things, for no real logical reason at all.

The end.

You still return the same profit from chest farming? I don't think so. The weapons didn't become more common to get, they're more common in the market thanks to hard mode. I certainly haven't gotten 'more' of anything, and chest farming is becoming harder than ever for those who can't afford it since the drop return sucks. It has nothing to do with who these weapons have become available to, it's that everyone and their brother can get one now. It has nothing to do with an elitist attitude, I liked to accumulate a vast amount of wealth; that was MY game.

Luxury weapons catered to people who played that way. Do you need them? Absolutely not. But they used to take hard work to get. Who cares about other people's logic for wanting to accumulate wealth, the fact is the shiny weapons are gone. One of my main purposes for playing this game isn't there anymore.

And why shouldn't they be available to everyone? Because you don't need them to survive in this game. It was nice having these available to people who ENJOYED FARMING AND ENJOYED GRIND and wanted a reward for it. Most people would agree that no one would ever wanted a Crystalline sword if they didn't have such great value. Why is it so hard to please that percentage of players? There are greens and collectors and chests that drop mediocre skins. But wait, GW must be a socialist economy to make all the whiny people happy. GG.

How does more common in the market NOT equate to more common in a drop? They dont just appear in the market, they gotta come from somewhere. They come from drops. If theres more in the market that means they drop more frequently.

So maybe you dont have the elitist attitude, then I wasnt talking to you, I was talking more to people like FeroxC who openly stated that IS how he/she felt.

The same can be said for you: Do you need vast amounts of gold? absolutly not. You arent entitled to it, just like no one is entitled to shiny weapons. Anet made them available to most players cause they wanted to. ITS WHAT ANET SEES FIT TO DO AND NOT YOU. YOU dont have much say in whats what in this game, because YOU didnt make it and YOU arent the whole population of Guild Wars, so loosing YOU or people like YOU wont hurt anet in the least you already bought the game. You can say you wont go buy Guild Wars 2 in protest but everyone knows that all the whiners and fit throwers who say that are waiting till its available on preorder or the Beta. And dont even think that people like you are all that much of the population in Guild Wars. The people that post of forums, even though there are TONS AND TONS, are jsut a very small percentage of the Guild Wars player base.

Do you think all these whines on Guru are all that much of a concern to Anet? NO. They may take the valid points and do something about it. I dont think whining about how you cant make vast amounts of gold anyomre concerns Anet in the least.

QUIT WHINING ADAPT AND GET OVER IT. Go ahead and quit guild wars. No one will care.

I guess simply put. Its whatever Anet wants to do. We really cant control it. Anet will always cater to the larger percent of the player base. Im sorry you dont enjoy the game as much anymore because of it, but it most likely wont change back just because you want to make vast amounts of gold. My argument isnt really with you its with people like FeroxC who do hold the elitist attitude.

I have a guildie that still swears there is a 100:1 vamp sword out there somewhere and he will stop at nothing to find it......

Who the hell was whining or even threatening to quit because of it? Certainly not me, I probably play this game just as much as I did when I started. I'm just explaining why I think it sucks, which I'm entitled to do. It's not like I'm going "OMFG A-NET SUCKS LIKE OMGZ THEY RUINED THIS GAME!!!11". No, I'm just saying why I think that sucks and you start acting like a damn fanboy. Why aren't I entitled to the gold I earned?

What I'm telling you that just because they're more common doesn't mean they drop as often. Think about it, this game has been around for 2 years so of course there is going to be more weapons in the market whether they drop frequently or not.

Thanks for telling me how to play my game. If I want to farm and accumulate money I should be able to do so, and A-Net should cater to those players who enjoy hardcore farming just as those who enjoy to play casually and they used to; until everyone became whiny socialist bitches.

A-net simply removed most mid-higher end items items, mering the mid with the low and taking the high and making that mid/low. Hard modes second purpose after hiding loot scaling. The super duper (im so funny ) high end market is still there though.

Maybe GW:EN Hard Mode will bring some super high end weapons in the dungeon chests as well. We allready have Sepihis Swords and Runic Blades as drops in Normal Mode now. I'm still hoping on a nice Wyvern Blade (req9, offcourse).

you better not tell him about the 105:1 then, he'd prolly get lost lol

I got pwned hardcore by it one time.

i remember back in the day when fds was leet

I dont want to buy your game time. I want my own drops to be of interest and value to me. First they would have to start actually dropping. That would be a start. But since they don't - stuff all you shiny weapons. They are yours. I would never have bought them from you anyway because they are yours. I didn't get them so they were not mine.

Hmmmm im not sure about this ultra wealthy class you are talking about. lets say for example i have some rare weapons like this



Would i be considered one of the affluent because i have something that no longer drops and charge ridiculous amounts for it?

How bout now?



Am i still rich? i am in control of same weapons, but i have no need for cash and dont plan on reselling those said items so i customzied them. am i still rich?

wealth is subjective. u can have like 3k and posess the rarest items and be considered wealthy. i customzied all my rare items, but would u call me poor? i guess in the end the rich will be those who have what others desire, which are said "shiny" weapons. basically in this game all the shiny items are those that no longer drop.

ps. hahaha oops i guess i just took out some shiny weapons from game. sorriez

Sundering? Bah, junk.

100k+3000e+50-90 armbrace or so. not sure. exactly.

ok how about now

Nothing like that sort of price I'd say more like 700-900 ecto range.

The most expensive thing I've seen sell was a mini Kanaxi in High End recently
I think the end bid was 100k + 1500ectos + 60 Armbraces which works out
somewhere in the region of 30 million.

This is worked out as trader price for ectos at the time was 5.5k each and armbraces I still see go for 100k +40e

More like 22mil b/c 200 ectos = 1 mil.
1500 = 7.5 mil
1 armbrace = about 100k+30e
60 = 6000k + 1800e
6+7.5+9 22.5 mil

but then yet agian how is someone willing to get that much stuff im playing for 20 months i never seen 100k +1500 ecto + 60 braces. That stuff can't be fair some part yes but not al.
I'm a proud owner of 990k and 2 ecto ATM.
but so much ecto maybe but 60 braces is ridicilous it can't be.
And then yet again iff you are power trader you can olny store 1000k in storage and fill 26 char slots with 100k ea so 30 mil of platinum has to be somewhere.
And maybe you have more accounts to store but then get a life.

one way is Power Trading, there used to be 'professional' (bit silly word here but anyways) guilds that moved large piles of material around. For example some individuals bought tens/hundreds of stacks of monstrous fangs/eyes & steel dirty cheap before Factions came and then started a rumour that they were needed in armours, there...massive profit reselling them back to happy players.

And that was just a minor thing compared to the ecto business back in prophecies time.

It's not hard to make money if you got some capital & couple of friends. I don't think there is power trading going on nowadays though, at least not in same way.

Exploiting stupid enemy A.I before update comes is another way. And by that I mean farming, UW used to quite different before all the nerfs.

Well, seeing how Necro armors did require Fangs, Claws and Eyes it wasn't really a rumor...

But I often wondered if a Guild, even a Guild with lots of money and players, could really effect the global economy of a game with millions of players...

It was a rumour till we could see what was needed for those armors.

Even one certain individual (many propably know who) managed to manipulate ecto price a little bit at material trader long time ago. And remember when some items were sold out from traders, superior absorption at one point etc, those weren't always just random coincidence.

Nothing major that had long term effect though.

The casual player was the whole point of Guild Wars to begin with. If your not a casual player find a game to play while your waiting for the casual player to catch up. You could PVP thats not very casual. Heck I don't know why people complain about weps anyways I'm still runing around with a fire dragon sword of swardmanship (droped like this way back when) (need to chang the swardmanship out). Always get look at the noob lol guess what my armor is (knight) lol. oh well I will have a new sword when I get home bought the pre edition of GWEN. Wish they would come out with an axe 2 hammers and a sword come on. What I'm trying to say is why dose it really matter what wep you got. The only ones that should matter for people that want to hard core are ones that should be won in quest and not tradeable. Now there would be something worth your time. As for the market it has always sucked. It's not really playing a game when you sit in one spot for hours spamming buy/sell. If thats your thing your waisting your talents. gather some money and play the stocks its a much better thing to do.

The casual player aspect meant that no weapon, armor or anything for that matter would be less powerful than those who grind. Also, it meant that you could leave for 2 days, 1 month, 6 months, year or however long and you wouldn't behind the crowd in 'gear'. Rare weapons cater to hardcore players so they had something to work for. Why can't there be hardcore players? It matters because that's how we like to play, we like to acquire and work for rare skins.

You're telling people how to play the game they paid for. As I've said in previous posts, there are more to this game than casual players and we shouldn't be forced to "play less" as you are insinuating so people can catch up. That is complete and utter bullshit. Maybe you don't care about your weapon, but some people do. You're not the entire player base as your attitude in the post implies.

Your post sickens me.

I doubt the legitamacy of those claims. Many of the richest players of GW that I know have explicitly debunked claims that they can control the market signifcantly.
And even if they could, in the possibility that a price spike wouldn't happen, those richest players in the game would suddenly become broke. It seems to high risk of an investment for me.

Yeah because those drop like crazy

Haveing the Hall of Hero's the only place the best of the best high end PvE items drop has always been a rather sticky point for many people.

Now I am not saying that a PvP player does not need or want a rare skin. BUT that drop in PvP should have been customized to that player or better yet been an unlock so they could simply add the skin to any pvp char they make.

As for rare drops, well they are rare but there should be some real limit on just how rare and unatainable an item is. I vanquished 4 zones in Tyria this weekend and recieved 0 gold drops, 6 purple(all merch items).

Now I am not asking for every monster to drop a gold, but there really is NO reason for this...



On Hard Mode the Judge is a lvl 27 boss and he drops 6g item.

no game is really meant for casual or grinders..theres a casual part to every game, and a grinding part of every game

A long time ago in a outpost far away.....or somthin like that, I decided to look up EVERY weapon in the game and look at its skin and if it was dyeable. Then I proceeded forward with the plan to acquire the items. Repeat with armor. Shiny 1337 crap that was way overpriced to begin with, and still is, is not on my list.
I have never bought a crystalline and never will, looks way to noob to me.....

btw: KoaBD is up to 21 maxed. Flame if ya want but I will always side on the weapon that looks the best to me over what the community deems 1337.

Wow..thats kinda screwed. I've got atleast one gold from most areas I've vanquished so far.

"Shiny" weapons I guess are being held by the exorbitantly rich, but GW:EN drops a crap-ton of the rare skins (crystalline, elemental, collosal to name a few) and I imagine the price of those going down as everything else...*sigh* I agree that the market now only consist of either absolute crap or super 1337 ballin' stuff.

I still think I have 3 "Shiny" weapons...but...it's only certain collectors that care about them. I've advertised all of them in KC,LA,KMDN, and I've only got window shoppers.
q8 15^50 shinobi blade, q7 15^50 fellblade, and q10 cryst 15^50, all uninscribable.

But....you can get your shitty inscribable crysts and fellblades now...I don't know about shinobis...

I used to hover around the 2 mil mark in cash....I have maybe 480k now ..... it's not like I need cash for anything....but...it's weird how everything I had is basically valueless now...it's sort of lame...

The most expensive item in the game isn't mini Kanaxai. It is the req7 15% unconditional Serpent Axe. /win

No one said you werent entitled to the gold you EARNED. I said you arent entitled to VAST amounts of gold. If you go out an earn it so be it, but because its harder to earn that much now as you claim, theres no reason for anet to make it easier for you to earn gold because you think you are entitled to it. Think of it this way. You get to grind even more for gold now, I mean that is what you want isnt it? more grind?

Im not telling you how to play your game even though you continue to accuse me of it when I have stated in posts "I DONT CARE HOW YOU PLAY, PLAY HOWEVER YOU WANT"

I think you need to stop and just breathe for a second and really look at what you are so pissed off about.

Your angry cause rare (or used to be rare) weapons have gone down in price and now you can make as much a profit off them as you used to. You blame Anet for it; and maybe they have had something to do with it. But you answered the biggest reason for it in your post and you didnt even realize it and you think its anets fault.

Look at your quote above.......

Ok you see where it says "What I'm telling you that just because they're more common doesn't mean they drop as often. Think about it, this game has been around for 2 years so of course there is going to be more weapons in the market whether they drop frequently or not. "

Think about it. Its people like YOU that grind ALOT for rare weapons then go sell them that make the price decline, YOU are putting more of the rare skinned weapons on the market. YOU are making prices decline by your insatiable need for gold. All the grinders that go out and farm as many "rare" weapons as possible and then go sell them for as much as possible have caused the prices to decline.

According to you the rare weapons dont necesarily drop more frequently so its not Anet that ruined this for you, IT WAS YOU AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU. Or did anet have something to do with it?

I agree that some weapons Anet caused to drop more frequently, especially because of hard mode. But its simple supply and demand. After two years of rare weapons being supplied, the demand has gone down.

What do you want Anet to do? Make rares drop less? Take a bunch of them out of the game? Dont just whine about Anet not catering to grinders, when they stated they didnt want this game to have grind in it(they even threw in titles for grinders) Tell us what you think needs to be done, instead of constanly complaining that people are telling you how to play a game that you want to grind in when the game wasnt really designed for it.

Go ahead keep farming and supplying more rare weapons and driving down prices. I dont care. Go ahead get mad about not being able to make vast amounts of moneyas easily as you used to, but dont think your entitled to it. The line is drawn when You think Anet needs to make it so you can earn vast amounts of gold like you used to, And the line is drawn when people get angry about prices going down on rare weapons because they dont want to be on the same level as "noobs" that have them.

I think players can be divided into some rough groups:

1. I bought the game and play now and again when the fancy takes me - don't care about elite armor, weapons, etc.
2. I bought the game and play often, but I don't feel like doing the same things again and again. I might be the best way to make money ... but I just can't be bothered, so i guess I have to do without "shiny".
3. I play a lot and don't mind to spend some of that time doing what other people would consider to be "grinding"
4. I play a whole lot and grind a lot to get the "shiny" items,- this is one of the thing i like best about the game.

Personally I would be category 3 - but I respect everyone and their right to perceive and enjoy GW the way they want to

Yes: dividing people everywhere into 4 easy groups is simplifying in the extreme - but I think most of us can say " I'm mostly #group with a little of #group thrown in"

I will end my "slicing of the world into four pieces" with a little prayer:
Try to be more tolerant of other people! - remember: what goes around comes around!

Smiles from me