Not purchasing GW2?

Thorondor Port

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

British Columbia

W/

Anyone else not planning on guild wars 2?
It will require alot of things for me to buy it. This is all relative to me and my personal experience with the game, yours may differ.

First off, Starcraft, as well as Brood War, was my absolutely most favorite game ever, and Starcraft 2 is due (rumoured) in 6/7/8 months. I am assuming I will still be playing it when Guild Wars 2 is to be released.
While on that note, Starcraft came out in 1998 and still blows the absolute crap out of the cut scenes and cinematics in Guild Wars.
In addition, throughout my time on Guild Wars, 21 months now, I have noticed significant problems and issues and even though many are fixed and corrected, new ones always come up.

Significant problems and issues you say!?!?!?
Yea. Its my personal experience so I wont go into detail, lets just say there were moments in this game where I did not enjoy things.

Continuing on to a broader spectrum...(still with problems and issues)

When I first bought prophicies it was the most amazing game I had played to date. Pre searing was beautiful and I remember hearing about this far away city called Lions Arch, full of hustle and bussle (hehe). Oh how I wished I could visit this ocean port full of sunshine.

Everyone played missions with 4/4, 6/6, and 8/8 REAL Players.
Although this did make the game somewhat frusterating at times, I did enjoy it much more than hero/hench like 95% of the pve that is now this game.

I remember first coming out of the shiverpeaks and was estatic when I hit the ocean on the beach doing the mission Gates of Kryta.

I was now hooked, and bought every game Anet made.
Factions sucked, beat it with 1 character and really got into pvp, specifically HoH.
Nightfall was alright, beat it with just 1 character again, went back to pvp.
Im still doing pve in Eye of the North (same character) and hating it. Still doing pvp.

I miss doing the quests for skills in prophicies, dearly.

Blablabla, what im saying is...
The game slowly got worse and worse but my enjoyment for Hoh and pvp stayed, thus I kept buying the new games, and it was about 90% for the new skills, and ultimatly made me realize I am putting alot of money into a game I just dont really like...

So when Guild Wars 2 comes out, I will imagine it will be just like Prophicies all over again. Amazing and addicting, before I finally realize its no longer fun.

Sorry Anet, youve lost a customer, and you have also killed role playing games for me. I will continue playing, but impatiently waiting for Starcraft 2 so I can finally move on.

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This was much longer than expected....if you are to reply please dont insult me because im a pve noob or I played the game wrong or im stupid for hating it.

If anyone else feels the same do share.

And yes, there is spelling errors and grammar errors and missing apostrophys and the liking, no need to point them out. I think this format of writing would be an A+ considering some of the posts on this forum.

BNET>ANET

Stolen Souls

Stolen Souls

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Well GW2 is still a few years away. A lot can change by then...my computer may blow up and I decide not to get a new one, etc.

If I do get GW2, it won't be until several months after it's released. I was very disappointed with GW:EN, and don't wanna have that same disappointment again. So I'll wait a good while until after release to get it.

If I had to answer yes or no, I'd say most likely no. But again, a lot could change by then.

xReLx

xReLx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Mo/

Indeed.

ANET > BNET though.

KiRi

KiRi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Canada

Grenths Rejects [GR]

GW2 is so far away to already be planning what game you're going to shun.
I need more information about GW2 to even start making opinions about how the game might be :P

Darlichay Dalinar

Darlichay Dalinar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

Cantha's Intelligence Agency

D/A

Too far to tell, but GW2 is most likely going to be next year... and will be released unfinished.. [facedesk]

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Depends. Will my computer even met the system requirements for GW2? Will my personal life have that much free time? Will I be adicted to another, unreleased game (StarCraft 2, Tabula Rasa, Crysis, etc)? Will another non-pay-to-play MMO come out that copies GW's model and steal away their customers?

All depends on what's out there I suppose.

Chicken Ftw

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Not buying. Looking into Fury, not really fond of the optional subscription system though. Pretty fun, bit laggy now, but it's still not 100% complete yet so meh. Gonna wait and see what happens with other games before deciding on one, but I'm 99.9% certain I won't be playing GW2.

lg5000

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

The OP started guildwars with neither Ranger nor Mesmer to experience groups without henchies...

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Judging a game that doesn't exist yet is rather silly. I have my concerns about the design as well, speaking as someone that mostly plays with henches and heroes (and like it that way), but it'd be ridiculous to say I will or won't pick the thing up 2 years hence. Who knows what design details could change by then?

raddaman

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

A/

Stunning realization!

You somewhat enjoyed it, but I don't believe that you can not play a a game for 21 months and not get bored of it.

As for the issues, 200 dollars isn't worth a whole company. You yourself stated 95% PVE liked heroes better. Majority rules, same reason PVP isn't "as important" as PVE.

The reason people play games is to enjoy as they play it. Rarely people think that you might as well not play because you get bored later on.

GG, felt like flame bait anyway.

acidic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

first of all i doubt starcraft 2 will be released in 6/7/8 months. If you know anything about blizzard is that they take their dam sweet time to polish everything up (unlike cough* GWEN * COUGH). It will be awhile before even the beta starts and then it will take at least a couple of months of beta testing. So you're probably looking at a late 2009/2010 release for SC2. As of GW2, I would venture to guess that most people will wait and see instead of pre-ordering like we did with factions/nf/gwen. Gwen was a disappointment to some people and ANet have to prove that GW2 will be worthy of a purchase.

Croco Clouds

Croco Clouds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Montreal, QC, Canada

Divine Illumination [LaZy]

E/A

I'll pick GW2, Starcraft 2 is for those fans, I am not one of them

jrk247

jrk247

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]

I'm not buying GW2. So far it just looks like it's going to be an updated version of GW but with several features GW doesn't have atm. And if Anet still has PvE and PvP linked and the skills linked I'm not even going to consider buying GW2.

toon-a-loon

toon-a-loon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Belton, Missouri

W/R

I love guild wars a lot but it seems lately they been lacking a lot on a lot of stuff.

Armors
Ingame chat
Couple dancing

Gattocheese

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

New Mexico

GWEN

Quote:
Originally Posted by jrk247
I'm not buying GW2. So far it just looks like it's going to be an updated version of GW but with several features GW doesn't have atm. And if Anet still has PvE and PvP linked and the skills linked I'm not even going to consider buying GW2.
Thats actually a good quote. Guild Wars is one of the most skill nerfed games i have ever heard of. To early for me to tell if i will be playing GW2 or not. I probaly will not buy it. One MMO is already too time consuming, so if an MMO i like comes out before GW2 i probaly wont get it. Hate to say it, but if they continue to adjust GW and GW2 to the casual player model, i wont buy it. Its good business for them to make the game for the casual player because they out number the hardcore players, but they lose the players that have been there through think and thin.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Nah I'll be buying.

Sniper22

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gattocheese
Thats actually a good quote. Guild Wars is one of the most skill nerfed games i have ever heard of. To early for me to tell if i will be playing GW2 or not. I probaly will not buy it. One MMO is already too time consuming, so if an MMO i like comes out before GW2 i probaly wont get it. Hate to say it, but if they continue to adjust GW and GW2 to the casual player model, i wont buy it. Its good business for them to make the game for the casual player because they out number the hardcore players, but they lose the players that have been there through think and thin.
Actually its one of the worst quotes and not quite thought out. Do you know how much confusion that would cause? You just get used the the pve descriptions then you go to pvp and find out that all the skills suck and then you will have to get used the pvp descriptions and its really just a mess. Seriously, pvp nerfs didn't ruin pve at all lol. Pve is still easy even with the slightly weakened skills. But guys, wait till gw2 comes out and then decide lol, you can't have your whole video game future planned out.

Corwin_Andros

Corwin_Andros

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

W/E

From what I've read and watching in an interview with Jeff Strain, the hardcore pvp is going to be completely separate in GW2 with a more causal friendly version tied to the PVE part of the game.

As things stand now I won't have any qualms picking up the game at all when it is released. As for when that actually happens, who knows? It's far enough out that I can't say what game or type of game I'll be buying in another year or two.

As for the thought that SC2 will be better because GW2 will only be GW with some new features.. what exactly will SC2 be but SC with some new features. That the general nature of follow up games, movies, etc..

Some people will automatically by just about any follow up game title if they enjoyed the original if for no other reason to see if it is as good or not better than the one they liked in the first place. Some people won't. It's as easy as that.

There will be a LOT of people rolling right over into GW2 when it gets released. And for every person that doesn't do that, there will most likely be some new player willing to give it a try.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

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I'll buy it too. I've run out of things to QQ about in this game so I'm gonna buy GW2 to scrutinize and post on forums all the problems I find. Despite that I'll still log 4,000+ hours on GW2 and love it all the same. There's a hazy line between love and hate and I think you [the OP] like GW more than you're letting on.

I suggest you buy GW2. It's inevitible that you'll become unhappy after playing the same game for 21 months and the developers can't please everyone completely.

If you've played GW one so much then there's no reason why you won't like GW2 as well because it'll take the best of GW and remove the worst. I get the feeling the opening post is, to be frank, a threat.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

ill be buying. pftt..its a one time cheap investment

Zorgy

Zorgy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

Paris, France

[any]

W/Me

GW is my FIRST online game (I played Freelancer online but dont consider it as a mmo) and strangely I have confidence in the devs since 2005 & GW release. I will buy GW² + GW3 + GW4 + GW The Last.
I dont buy other PC game since I play GW, funny Anet makes me save my money congrats.....

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

I'll be playing GW2 unless the rumoured BioWare MMO comes out, in which case I'll probably play that instead because I know that a game by BioWare will just about always be better than the competition, ArenaNet included. They're just that good. Even if there's a monthly fee. Because a game by BioWare is essentially guaranteed to have a strong story and be very, very fun (KotOR, JE, BG stand out as main examples).

Or the 40K MMO in development by Vigil, but I haven't learned enough about that yet to determine whether it will be good.

But being on more or less even footing with the long-time players will be a plus for me.

Gattocheese

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

New Mexico

GWEN

Well i think the reason this is posted is because the direction of change and the dissappointment in GWEN. I think everyone will eventually purchase GW2. But how long would you play? Will GW2 require skill and time to play or will it be a game with a 2 year old mentality? Will Anet care enough in GW2 to keep the player base playing constantly on there servers? People say that GW is a game you can put down for a while and pick back up, but it really hasnt been that kind of a game. Most people will play with in a couple of days to a week leaving a constant amout of players on there servers at all times. GW2 could very well follow extinction as most new MMO's have. But everything we say in this thread is just speculation.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

hmmm, like the OP I have been playing gw for a long time (over 2 years now), and have come to the realization that prophecies was the most well put together campaign...it went down hill from there. Yes I bought and played both of the following chapters in anticipation of better things, only to be disappointed by the actual outcome. Gw:en has also been a bigger disappointment that I thought it could be. So if reasoning on this line continues gw2 will be even worse than I had hoped and thus not worth my time and money to get.

SO

unless they make some big changes I will not be getting gw2 either. I will continue to play gw, until such time that I am no longer willing to deal with the messed up stuff in game.

Havre Fras

Havre Fras

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/Me

Probobly won't be buying. I'll most likely have Wrath of the Lich King and the (possible) next WoW expansion by then.

Why can't they just stick to GW1 instead? Honestly...

Corwin_Andros

Corwin_Andros

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
I suggest you buy GW2. It's inevitible that you'll become unhappy after playing the same game for 21 months and the developers can't please everyone completely.
Sometimes I think this, more than anything, is what causes all the "I'm Quitting GW!!" and GW is DYING!!!" threads that keep popping up.

Some people have played this game like a religion since Day1. No matter how much you love something or enjoy it, after a time (that varies for each person) it starts to pall or get boring. For an analogy, I love steak but if I had to eat it and nothing else, every day, day in and day out, eventually I'd get sick of it and be ready to kill for a hot dog..lol

I've played since the beta weekends before Prophecies was released, and have at times burned myself out on GW, and had to take a break for a couple weeks up to a couple months a time or two. But I ALWAYS come back because all in all, Guild Wars is the best game I've ever bought and played.

That is the true beauty of the game design and pricing scheme Anet has put together. I can play like a fiend and then walk away and come back whenever I feel like it, without it costing me any money or getting behind the power curve as compared to players that never stop playing. All that, and it's just a great game. Sure it has it's issues, but not a single change, nerf, or whatever has ever been a game killer, at least for me, and I look forward to see what kind of new toys they are gonna put into GW2.

Thorondor Port

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

British Columbia

W/

<3 the flames =]

And no its not a threat. Im not trying to scare Anet into making a game I will purchase lol. This is a forum, im giving an opinion and looking for others (agree or disagree)

and About the 6/7/8 months you should look into that. I said it was a rumour.
Starcraft2.com is getting new units and updates weekly, and I have heard from a friend that bought a computer gaming magazine that it will be shortly after the new year this game will be released (RUMOUR EMPHASIZE)

And yes its still a long way away, but im still very skeptical about it.
I can usually only play a max of 2 hours of a game a night, so it starcraft takes it over, and it will most likely because I loved the first one, then I just wont have time to play a grind game.

Gattocheese

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

New Mexico

GWEN

Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
I'll buy it too. I've run out of things to QQ about in this game so I'm gonna buy GW2 to scrutinize and post on forums all the problems I find. Despite that I'll still log 4,000+ hours on GW2 and love it all the same. There's a hazy line between love and hate and I think you [the OP] like GW more than you're letting on.

I suggest you buy GW2. It's inevitible that you'll become unhappy after playing the same game for 21 months and the developers can't please everyone completely.

If you've played GW one so much then there's no reason why you won't like GW2 as well because it'll take the best of GW and remove the worst. I get the feeling the opening post is, to be frank, a threat.
I couldnt agree more that u can become unhappy with guild wars after 21 months. But i grew bored of it back in May, the only thing that kept me playing from May until now is GWEN. Saving for armor, leveling characters, basically preparing for it, then i find it to be rather a huge dissappointment. Just my opinion. There are some tidbits to enjoy, but way not enough to keep my busy for the next year and a half till GW2 comes out. I think the question is ment to sound more like, If GW2 is similar to GWEN will you buy it?

undeadgun

undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞], also as guild leader

N/

i think i will choose GW2 aswell, GW had way too many of my good memories, cant just let it go.

Tahlia Tane

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

I'm buying Guild Wars 2 ASAP.

I'm hyped. HYPED I TELL YOU!

It's gonna be the real deal. It won't be so 'meh' like Factions, Nightfall or GW:EN. I mean it's gonna be a real awesome, meaty game.

And I can say with confidence it's gonna top Prophecies. Bet on that.

Gattocheese

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

New Mexico

GWEN

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahlia Tane
I'm buying Guild Wars 2 ASAP.

I'm hyped. HYPED I TELL YOU!

It's gonna be the real deal. It won't be so 'meh' like Factions, Nightfall or GW:EN. I mean it's gonna be a real awesome, meaty game.

And I can say with confidence it's gonna top Prophecies. Bet on that.
Can i buy my pot from you?

Inniss

Inniss

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

Bendigo - Australia

Search For Gwen Foundation

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
ill be buying. pftt..its a one time cheap investment
QFT.

I was planning on buying anyway (Factions was meh, but <3 NF), but the fact remains that ANet have stated they're sticking to the same pay once model. I'm sure most gamers have forked out for a game to try it, only to have it sit on their shelves unused for a while (I haven't touched Sim City in ages), and that's the advantage of GW over other MMOs, that if the urge does hit to play it again, you don't have to fork out for access again.

It's too early for me to say whether I will keep playing it once it comes out (I think I will though), but regardless of whether I get sick of it or not, I will be buying it.

Tahlia Tane

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Havre Fras
Why can't they just stick to GW1 instead? Honestly...


Guild Wars 2 will be extremely different from GW1.

Spazzer

Spazzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

USA

Team Asshat [Hat]

Mo/E

I was very satisfied with Guild Wars until recently. Between Jeff Strain's speech, the Mission Bonus Pack, and Eye Of The North, arenanet is out to try to lose my business.

It basically comes down to this: Arenanet feels like it no longer has anything to prove. I feel lied to, and I don't feel like purchasing another game.

Tahlia Tane

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spazzer
I feel lied to
ArenaNet wants your wallet, not your marriage.

Edit: Wait a minute. That would make ArenaNet a prostitute. LOL

Sai of Winter

Sai of Winter

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

[ale]

Mo/

GW was the first game to get me interested into online RPG's so I'll probably get GW2 if I see what I like in beta, especially I want to see how the storyline(s) turns out. GW1 gave me a lot of enjoyment for over two years even though I had some disagreements with a couple of updates, I still enjoyed it. I'm a laid-back gamer I don't take it too seriously.

Although, I'll probably won't play it as much as I did in GW1 because of the other games I'll be playing which will be out before GW2 such as Hellgate and Warhammer.

dr_ishmael

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

This thread = win

[/sarcasm]

Seriously, GW2 (and Starcraft 2) are still months/years away from being released. We hardly know anything about GW2 beyond a few vague and ambiguous statements that came out in a magazine 6 months ago. I, for one, won't be at all concerned over whether or not I'm buying GW2 until much closer to its release.

And the whole assumption that "Anet screwed everything up in GW:EotN, therefore GW2 is going to suck"... >.> If you used something that on a debate team, you would lose.

Spazzer

Spazzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

USA

Team Asshat [Hat]

Mo/E

Ishmael, it's the same company making both products.

wetsparks

wetsparks

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

I will be buying GW2. I see it like this, for $50, I can play pool for 50 hours at the university across town, I can go see 5 movies, or I can buy GW2 that I'm pretty sure I will atleast 200 hours of pleasure out of. That is if I don't like the game, and I experiment with several different classes and go far enough into the game to find out how they play against tough enemies. If I do like the game I'm sure I will get 1500 hours out of it, which is what I'm at right now in GW1 and will easily be over 2000 hours by the time GW2 is released.

Tahlia Tane

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spazzer
Ishmael, it's the same company making both products.
During GW:EN's development, most of ArenaNet was already working on Guild Wars 2, which is why GW:EN is so underwhelming.