W/Me Uw Solo V2 [axe+sword] - Mass Aggro Fun (12-15min Run)

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aqualung
Hey, what's the alternative for Whirlwind Attack/Enraging Charge? I don't have NF Sorry to say but whriling attack is acauly very important in this build, its there to re-spam after cyclone axe and triple chop and it only costs 6 adrenaline, so great energy gain, without it triple chop and cyclone axe would no go so well so i suggest

my build usualy consits on 3 attacks skills, 2 or 3 aoe

[skill]Triple Chop[/skill][skill]cyclone axe[/skill]

[skill]Hundred Blades[/skill]
[skill]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill]


The axe version gains less energy when you fight <4 smites and without whirling attack no energy, but the sword version should be ok without it, slower but better on energy so heres my build changes for you:

[skill]Triple Chop[/skill][skill]Cyclone Axe[/skill][skill]Dolyak signet[/skill] (take 15 strength)

Use physical resistance to pull and gather, stop in safe - doylak and then axe attacks/visages/bonneti's =]

[skill]Hundred Blades[/skill][skill]Sun And Moon Slash[/skill][skill]standing slash[/skill]

My Sweet Revenga

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

Heh wanted to try this last night, had all this excess warrior gear and mods so I cobbled together the necessary axes and shields and adjusted my runes, only to find that UW scrolls were sold out >_<

Actually it's a good thing they were otherwise i would have charged into UW without first practicing the build heh. Tried it out against the minotaurs in Elona's Reach mission, got stomped the first time cuz I wasn't activating the skills in the proper order. 2nd attempt was successful, but very sloppily and the loot wasn't so great.... probably has to do with that whole anti farm code where less loot drops if more monsters die at the same time..... but otherwise yeah the build works great. I love numbers.

Tried it with hard mod with elona minotaurs and the minotaurs outside of the ice cave outpost, didn't go so well as they dealt far more damage than the mods and physical resistance could handle.... oh well.

I'll probably do a few more practice runs to get used to the build before I run into UW, assuming I can ever buy a bloody scroll....

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

It is specificaly ment to deal with smites and graspings

My Sweet Revenga

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by dont feel no pain
It is specificaly ment to deal with smites and graspings I know I know

Just saying, doing elona reach minotaurs is a pretty good place to practice if you don't feel like wasting money on an UW scroll only to get wiped by the first mob on your first try with the build hehe

At the least, it'll get you used to seeing so many purple numbers flying up the screen. The first time I actually died at those minotaurs cuz I was so distracted by all the purdy colours and lost concentration

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

lol ^^ hehe purdy

Aqualung

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

I'm going to try it tonight and post here if I'm sucessful hehe

Metal Herc

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Well I have been giving this some practice lately. Finally made it to the smite crawlers after 4 tries. I probably would have survived and acutally got to kill some but I got stuck... Well, I know what to avoid.

My biggest problem is the first room. I run up aggro the Grasps and run back down into the far side using enraging charge. More often than not a single Aatxe seems to follow me all the way. How can you avoid this. Is it one of the patrolling ones?

Then, there is the first group of smite crawlers. I aggro them and run towards the next two groups. Is it normal that they attack eachother?

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by Metal Herc
Well I have been giving this some practice lately. Finally made it to the smite crawlers after 4 tries. I probably would have survived and acutally got to kill some but I got stuck... Well, I know what to avoid.

My biggest problem is the first room. I run up aggro the Grasps and run back down into the far side using enraging charge. More often than not a single Aatxe seems to follow me all the way. How can you avoid this. Is it one of the patrolling ones?

Then, there is the first group of smite crawlers. I aggro them and run towards the next two groups. Is it normal that they attack eachother? the first room having a Aatxe chaase you all the way is real bad luck, it almost never happens to me because i alawys do it the same way(as on vid).

and yes its very common that at the start smites go canibal or even on a group of coldfires, if they do run away from them and move onto the next group of smites (then go back) or run back and wait.

Tirus WB

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2007

Guildless

N/

hey thanks for the g8 vid, luv the song.

But I failed for 5 times in a row. As what u mentioned, the aatxe chased me all the way for 5 times... am I unlucky or what... duh...

Aqualung

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Hey, tried with Dolyak Signet, it works, but not as the build should. It's faster for me with the VwK build, since I don't have the main skill.

Dean Harper

Dean Harper

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

USA

The Killer Clan Musketeers [TKCM]

Me/E

i just be this is gonna get nerfed... its a shame too, a really fast run...

Hey_homies

Hey_homies

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/

i tried this build and died trying to kill 2 grasping groups =(
I use:
knights insignia on all armor pieces
sup. absorb on 1 piece
and i use a victos bulwark

Aqualung

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Got the Shelter mod on the Axe?

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean Harper
i just be this is gonna get nerfed... its a shame too, a really fast run...
shh, I doubt it would get nerfed, otherwise they would have to re-nerf terra tanks, vwk warriors and e/a shadow eles.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Hey_homies
i tried this build and died trying to kill 2 grasping groups =(
I use:
knights insignia on all armor pieces
sup. absorb on 1 piece
and i use a victos bulwark I already posted how to do this, you kill them using bonneties/Visages and attacks with an icy weapon of shelter and when your health goes to about 100-200 you put physical resistance on and switch to your zealous weapon of enchanting, and then use attacks(zealous gets energy) visages/physical resistance.

zling

zling

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

cant this build actually kill the Aatxes as well?
visages and bonneti's at start should be enough to drain their energy, so no savage slash and no adrenaline so no other skills. than you switch to physical resistance and own them. maybe you'll need a vampiric weapon as a self heal and extra damage instead of the zealous as you probably will get some damage even from their normal attacks.

why bother with Aatxes in the first place?
they sometimes drop ectos and you dont risk getting rubberbanded or lagged to death or whatever

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by zling
cant this build actually kill the Aatxes as well?
visages and bonneti's at start should be enough to drain their energy, so no savage slash and no adrenaline so no other skills. than you switch to physical resistance and own them. maybe you'll need a vampiric weapon as a self heal and extra damage instead of the zealous as you probably will get some damage even from their normal attacks.

why bother with Aatxes in the first place?
they sometimes drop ectos and you dont risk getting rubberbanded or lagged to death or whatever test before you post pls, they do way to much dmg, 46-56 with physical resistance on. and as for the armor nerf, its very hard unless if you make a build that focused 100% on attaxes, it has been done, but its more challenge and risky than profitable.

You may be able to take a bonder monk(hero) with you if you realy desire this.

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by zling
cant this build actually kill the Aatxes as well?
visages and bonneti's at start should be enough to drain their energy, so no savage slash and no adrenaline so no other skills. than you switch to physical resistance and own them. maybe you'll need a vampiric weapon as a self heal and extra damage instead of the zealous as you probably will get some damage even from their normal attacks.

why bother with Aatxes in the first place?
they sometimes drop ectos and you dont risk getting rubberbanded or lagged to death or whatever What are you nuts? Have you even fought an aatxe?

zling

zling

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

yes I did infact and I killed them and got ectos from them. mostly did duo runs though not solo.
and I havent tried going to UW with a warrior as mine is low lvl and I dont bother lvling it, have other lvl 20 chars I like better, necro, ranger, monk, dervish, etc

Straegaard

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Me/

This works perfectly. Thanks, don't feel no pain.

I have now officially beaten my rits time record - 10 minutes

Holy

Holy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Closest Dumpster.

Liars, Cheats and Thieves [Liar]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slabby
It does not matter on which armor part the sup absorption rune is, its effect is global. Its effect IS global, however there are many proven videos to show you that if the Sup Absorbtion is on your chest piece, it will infact take off more dmg, because you take something between 40-50% of the dmg on your chest piece.
therefore the -3dmg is accumilated off of a larger scale.
try it for yourself if u want, try putting it on leg piece or even arm piece, and then try Chest, the difference is quite noticable (easiest way to experiment is to go to an area when you dont normally take more than 10dmg. just easier to see results).


Funn build tho. im deffinately going to try it. ive been wanting to get back into GW anyway. miss the good old days of endless ecto

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by Holy
Its effect IS global, however there are many proven videos to show you that if the Sup Absorbtion is on your chest piece, it will infact take off more dmg, because you take something between 40-50% of the dmg on your chest piece.
therefore the -3dmg is accumilated off of a larger scale.
try it for yourself if u want, try putting it on leg piece or even arm piece, and then try Chest, the difference is quite noticable (easiest way to experiment is to go to an area when you dont normally take more than 10dmg. just easier to see results).


Funn build tho. im deffinately going to try it. ive been wanting to get back into GW anyway. miss the good old days of endless ecto I wonder how much of an added effect having 2 sup absorbtion (chest+legs) would do then ^^

and yeah i miss those days too

zling

zling

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Holy
Its effect IS global, however there are many proven videos to show you that if the Sup Absorbtion is on your chest piece, it will infact take off more dmg, because you take something between 40-50% of the dmg on your chest piece.
therefore the -3dmg is accumilated off of a larger scale.
try it for yourself if u want, try putting it on leg piece or even arm piece, and then try Chest, the difference is quite noticable (easiest way to experiment is to go to an area when you dont normally take more than 10dmg. just easier to see results).


Funn build tho. im deffinately going to try it. ive been wanting to get back into GW anyway. miss the good old days of endless ecto you are contradicting yourself... you're saying the effect is global and yet you say it depends on which armor piece you put it...
make up your mind please

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by zling
yes I did infact and I killed them and got ectos from them. mostly did duo runs though not solo.
and I havent tried going to UW with a warrior as mine is low lvl and I dont bother lvling it, have other lvl 20 chars I like better, necro, ranger, monk, dervish, etc Ok let me rephrase that question, have you fought an aatxe with a warrior that isn't packing loads of anti-melee skills?

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

Alright I have an issue with this. i just can't seem to pull any graspings without aggroing one of the aatxes on the left side....and I can't run away to break aatxe aggro because he follows me half of the damn map.

WTF is the deal...I wasted 3k already and haven't killed a single enemy yet.

tuna-fish_sushi

tuna-fish_sushi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

California

E/A

Are you in Hardmode? Then they have a 50% run buff and wont give up for a while.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Alright I have an issue with this. i just can't seem to pull any graspings without aggroing one of the aatxes on the left side....and I can't run away to break aatxe aggro because he follows me half of the damn map.

WTF is the deal...I wasted 3k already and haven't killed a single enemy yet. hmmmm i beeen gettng alot of these posts on here, all i can say is try different pulling patterns untill you know when they wont chase you, it doesnt happen to me because i always do a full 3 group pull at the same time each run.

Keneth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

How important is it to have an icy weapon of shelter for killing grasps? Or a better question, can you just kill them with the zealous weapon of enchanting and what's the downside appart from a longer run?

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keneth
How important is it to have an icy weapon of shelter for killing grasps? Or a better question, can you just kill them with the zealous weapon of enchanting and what's the downside appart from a longer run?
They take double dmg from elemental dmg and this is used when gathering smites so you have +7 armor vs physical and no loss of energy pip.

Keneth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Yeah, I've figured it out. I've never entered UW before so I wasn't sure but first run went rather well, great builds. Thanks.

Keneth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

I've also found that if you happen to stumble upon a Dying Nightmare, you will usually pull an Aatxe with it which won't stop following you until the nightmare is dead. I'm guessing this is the problem most people said they're having and so far the only solution I've found is to kill the Nightmare as quickly as possible and use your running skill to get rid of the Aatxe. This doesn't always work though since the Grasps drain your energy and you might not be able to use Enraging Charge and the Aatxe will kill you.

Sorry for double posting, just thought I should share...

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keneth
I've also found that if you happen to stumble upon a Dying Nightmare, you will usually pull an Aatxe with it which won't stop following you until the nightmare is dead. I'm guessing this is the problem most people said they're having and so far the only solution I've found is to kill the Nightmare as quickly as possible and use your running skill to get rid of the Aatxe. This doesn't always work though since the Grasps drain your energy and you might not be able to use Enraging Charge and the Aatxe will kill you.

Sorry for double posting, just thought I should share... thanks for sharing, was new to me tbh

>P>Emperor

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

Lost Souls

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Alright I have an issue with this. i just can't seem to pull any graspings without aggroing one of the aatxes on the left side....and I can't run away to break aatxe aggro because he follows me half of the damn map.

WTF is the deal...I wasted 3k already and haven't killed a single enemy yet. i got the same prob; killing the grasps is peace of cake with this build, but I always seem to aggro 1 or 2 aatxes that keep on following me through the whole room...i never tried uw solo before so how can I practice the run better? take a bonder monk with me for extra security? bonder hero is not an option, my hero aggroed the whole lot of aatxes !
btw I'm using a 16 armor shield with -2 ph dmg while enchanted, is that worse than the -2 ph dmg while stance shield for this build?
tnx for any tips, I'm getting tired of wasting all my money just for entering UW and gettin almost nothing

also, I was thinking, would it be better to use glad's defense in stead of triple chop as elite in this build, for more safety (safer but slower)?

Keneth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Gladiator's Defense will only be useful to you in the first part since it's a stance and thus mutually exclusive with Bonetti's and Physical Resistance and since grasps drain your energy you probably won't get to use it much anyway. Tripple Chop is important if you mass aggro smites later to fill up your Whirlwind.

I must admit though, I've done about 15 or so runs now and about 10 times of those I screwed up in the first part, quite a few times because of nightmares and Aatxes. I don't know, maybe I'm getting the timing when aggroing wrong or something but with the success rate of 1 out of 3, I can't afford this run. Maybe it's better to practice the first run with smaller groups instead of aggroing en-masse.

^ Edit: This was actually just my incompetence, I've done about 20 runs today and I've only failed the first part about 3 times, mostly due to my stupidity. It takes some practice and observation skills. For instance, there are 3 groups of 2 Aatxes up the stairs infront of you and most of the time there is another that is patroling left and right. This one is usually more relentless in chasing you than any of the others. Also there are 2 types of Nightmares, ones that stand still and ones that patrol the area. Both will usually pull an Aatxe with them which will assume their behaviour and these too will not let you go in most cases until the Nightmare is dead. Moreover, when pulling the first group look behind you (default button is 'Y'), if any of the Aatxes follow you, try to shake them off before trying to aggro the other two groups on the left as it is likely that you will be stuck with at least one then and it's a lot harder to shake them off with 15 or so grasps on your tail. I hope this helps anyone having trouble with the first part.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

I play gw on wireless... = lag

= never fail except for lag jumps (as seen on my vid nearly getting owned by coldfires)

....


Played at a internet cafe....

(@_@) was so cool and lag free (jealous)

Keneth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Hehe, I've never managed to escape coldfires and I hardly ever get ping over 200. They're a nasty bunch, sometimes they get stuck in the most annoying of places, blocking your run. I've figured a few things about their behaviour too though, for instance they will almost never get pulled with smites even when very close together, if you use a bow you can usually pull the smites away from them (if you can't get to them otherwise), a bow is also useful when they get stuck, if you fire an arrow or two and quickly run away it's likely that they'll follow you and later assume their normal patroling routine. Also when the smites go berserk, they'll usually kill a group or even two of coldfires that cross them so you can decide what is more beneficial to your run.

Nimrod EX

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jew Land

W/Mo

is this run really worth it? i mean...i saw the youtube video, you may be doing 13 smites at a time but u only get like 2 drops from all of them...its best to vwk one at a time for better drop rates.
if i VWK the smites 1 mob at a time i get 2-3 drops per mob, but if i do YOUR build (as ownage as it is :P ) i get 2 drops from THREE mobs, thats a waste of perfectly good smites :P plus vwk isn't THAT much slower than your build... in the video on youtube, i have no idea how u get the 1k back (unless u lucky to get passage scroll or ecto...which won't happen all the time)

AscalonWarrior

AscalonWarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kokkola, Finland

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nimrod EX
is this run really worth it? I got 4 ectos in one run (20k in 15 minutes) So I'd say yes.

Carboplatin

Carboplatin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

[PIG]

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by AscalonWarrior
I got 4 ectos in one run (20k in 15 minutes) So I'd say yes. yeah average it out over your total number of runs and you won't be able to apply that rate.

UW used to be a good farm, now there are better farms imo. But this build is still the awesomness.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

hmmm i average 0-2 ecto a run, 3 on a lucky one, 4 in every million ^^

but yeah averages to 25-50kish per hour on normal run rates.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Nimrod EX
is this run really worth it? i mean...i saw the youtube video, you may be doing 13 smites at a time but u only get like 2 drops from all of them...its best to vwk one at a time for better drop rates.
if i VWK the smites 1 mob at a time i get 2-3 drops per mob, but if i do YOUR build (as ownage as it is :P ) i get 2 drops from THREE mobs, thats a waste of perfectly good smites :P plus vwk isn't THAT much slower than your build... in the video on youtube, i have no idea how u get the 1k back (unless u lucky to get passage scroll or ecto...which won't happen all the time)
Now what i finds weird is, i do get less crappy drops which add up to my entrance fee (merch food), but when i do get good drops, they realy show, like before i had 2 ectos + 1 scroll drop and a key from a group of around 18 smites, its like handing the good stuff in a run at once, I also have done a run with pure sword one on one fast killing 1 at a time to gain all drops, i got alot more crappy stuff, but around the same ectos. so this means that: this run does not lower ecto/golds/key drops, just crappy drops

So realy you get more good stuff over time ^^ ... if im right that is

bored-.-bored

bored-.-bored

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Behind You...

X Team Slayers X

i get between 1-4 a run, but msot runs i get 2 ectos so meh thats good for me..