W/Me Uw Solo V2 [axe+sword] - Mass Aggro Fun (12-15min Run)

blackknight1337

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Mo/

yeah meeting your shield req ftw, though having a couple sec longer enraging charge isn't that bad

out of curiousity, how many smites have you gotten with your biggest aggro? there's one spawn i seen the other day that there were smites all along the right side of the big O, as well as 2 or 3 more groups to the right of them, 6 groups at the least.

too bad they fight each other like mad...and you sit there going "aww man, there goes my ecto for the run"

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by blackknight1337
yeah meeting your shield req ftw, though having a couple sec longer enraging charge isn't that bad

out of curiousity, how many smites have you gotten with your biggest aggro? there's one spawn i seen the other day that there were smites all along the right side of the big O, as well as 2 or 3 more groups to the right of them, 6 groups at the least.

too bad they fight each other like mad...and you sit there going "aww man, there goes my ecto for the run" I think my best ever has been 21, but that was alot of luck, on most Great spawns they go canibal on each other... yeah like you said...

max_rulez

max_rulez

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Fallit Imago [Fi]

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my best was 27 smites. pretty lucky tho. when they go canibal, just go stand in the middle and hit cyclone, then run away to where ever your gonna kill em again. works most of the time.

blackknight1337

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Mo/

yeah what sucks is if you get bodyblocked and then they go cannibal, zealots fire spike go go go go

worse yet is hitting triple chop when half them have soj up

{IceFire}

{IceFire}

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

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Weird-I am running full knight's insignias and sup absorb and -2 stance shield-the graspings are still hitting me for 5-6-7-8-9 dmg with no stance up-I've died 3 times on the graspings now. i've tried to keep bonetti's up as much as possible but they still get me. should i be using phys resistance for this part? I don't understand how I see in the vid he is getting hit for 0-2 dmg but i am hitting for 7-8 with the same setup. Running the axe build, btw...

angmar_nite

angmar_nite

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

[SNOW] of [YUM]

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shelter mod?

Dark Tykane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Cult Unseen

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by {IceFire}
Weird-I am running full knight's insignias and sup absorb and -2 stance shield-the graspings are still hitting me for 5-6-7-8-9 dmg with no stance up-I've died 3 times on the graspings now. i've tried to keep bonetti's up as much as possible but they still get me. should i be using phys resistance for this part? I don't understand how I see in the vid he is getting hit for 0-2 dmg but i am hitting for 7-8 with the same setup. Running the axe build, btw... Haha
Yes, use physical resistence.

angmar_nite

angmar_nite

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

[SNOW] of [YUM]

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he can't... I don't need it. Bonetti will keep canceling it out. Unless he uses a zealous axe.

{IceFire}

{IceFire}

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

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Yeah, which is the problem as I can't have energy for SV/AV without bonetti's. I dont have a shelter mod, but I didn't think that was needed..

angmar_nite

angmar_nite

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

[SNOW] of [YUM]

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Might not be. What kind of -2 you have? I actually use enchantment ones over stance ones, because I'd rather have more protection from the graspings than a 2 second gap against the smites.

blackknight1337

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Mo/

you should have a physical mod (+7) on your icy weapon

graspings hit me for about 6s only on crit, most of the time like 2s and 3s

when you go below your safety level (for me i do about 200hp) use zealous axe and physical resistance, you will take 0 dmg

key to taking graspings is getting your visage up and keeping them from spamming fear me, if you pull all 12 you don't even have to have bonnettis up to cover for later visages

once you switch to zealous you should have no problem having energy provided you keep a visage up

sometimes graspings take me 5 min if ya get skullcracked trying to put a visage up repeatedly, one trick if you already have PR up and no energy, wait till PR is recharged, then hit bonettis, let it charge up you energy, visage, then back into PR, then triple chop > whirling, etc

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by blackknight1337
you should have a physical mod (+7) on your icy weapon

graspings hit me for about 6s only on crit, most of the time like 2s and 3s

when you go below your safety level (for me i do about 200hp) use zealous axe and physical resistance, you will take 0 dmg

key to taking graspings is getting your visage up and keeping them from spamming fear me, if you pull all 12 you don't even have to have bonnettis up to cover for later visages

once you switch to zealous you should have no problem having energy provided you keep a visage up

sometimes graspings take me 5 min if ya get skullcracked trying to put a visage up repeatedly, one trick if you already have PR up and no energy, wait till PR is recharged, then hit bonettis, let it charge up you energy, visage, then back into PR, then triple chop > whirling, etc nice to hear someone gets how to do the graspings with this build

blackknight1337

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Mo/

took me a while to get how to pull all of them at once, but after that its not hard

chief problems are if a nm pops and follows you down, or if he pulls an attaxe down with him, either way he should be killed asap otherwise he rends visages and is a pita, not to mention his dmg isn't affected by PR thus he can kill you on low health, though he tends to bip himself to death before he can do that

@ dont feel, chamber done in 1 min ftw

d3mented

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2007

Hey Dont Feel no Pain, nice looking build, but I was just wondering if this is doable without Factions (so no AV and Triple Chop)

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by d3mented
Hey Dont Feel no Pain, nice looking build, but I was just wondering if this is doable without Factions (so no AV and Triple Chop) afraid not, most uw builds require to visages as does this, though there are nightfall versions with rending aura.

fantomas

fantomas

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Souls Of Glory [SoG]

Mo/

I lured 3-4 groupes of smites, but when i killed them (15 smites) i only got 2 drops, did some runs with same result and no ecto :/

It seems if u kill many in one time u will get less drops, is that correct?

blackknight1337

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Mo/

less junk drops, ecto doesn't seem affected, the speed makes up for it

Cobalt

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

I started attaining the skills for the Axe build got most of them but noticed one is a Sunspear skill and have not taken my War through Nightfall yet.

You probably need to get Sunspear rank 8-10 to really make this build work right?

knives

knives

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Grenths Rejects [GR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobalt
I started attaining the skills for the Axe build got most of them but noticed one is a Sunspear skill and have not taken my War through Nightfall yet.

You probably need to get Sunspear rank 8-10 to really make this build work right? Not really. The attk is there to gain adr + energy back so you can spam visages + axe attks (for more energy/adr). The added dmg of whirlwind is basically just a plus.

Great build DFNP, too bad I always forget to switch to zealous weapon after luring and screw up all my runs. =/

Dark Tykane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Cult Unseen

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by angmar_nite
he can't... I don't need it. Bonetti will keep canceling it out. Unless he uses a zealous axe. so use a zealous axe
as for bonetti's just don't use it ALL the time only use it 1 time
it should be when physical resistence is at least 75% charged let them get your energy full and cast sv then immediately after (NOT DURING) the cast you put physical resistence back up and keep sv and av going (with help of the zealous)
you wont take any damage this way unless you time it wrong or they get a couple hits while bonneti's is up

fujin

fujin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Hong Kong, all the way in Asia :O

Officer of United Jedi [UJ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobalt
I started attaining the skills for the Axe build got most of them but noticed one is a Sunspear skill and have not taken my War through Nightfall yet.

You probably need to get Sunspear rank 8-10 to really make this build work right? My Warrior only has Sunspear R5 and he's fine.

You don't even have to so far in the game... Just get at least rank 1 and you can get the Sunspear Skills.

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth

Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobalt
I started attaining the skills for the Axe build got most of them but noticed one is a Sunspear skill and have not taken my War through Nightfall yet.

You probably need to get Sunspear rank 8-10 to really make this build work right? Im not even using whirlwind attack! I mess up so much i decided to slap lions comfort back into my setup instead so really it is not needed but it does add to the total run time.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Tykane
so use a zealous axe
as for bonetti's just don't use it ALL the time only use it 1 time
it should be when physical resistence is at least 75% charged let them get your energy full and cast sv then immediately after (NOT DURING) the cast you put physical resistence back up and keep sv and av going (with help of the zealous)
you wont take any damage this way unless you time it wrong or they get a couple hits while bonneti's is up #

Bonneti's is plainly for the graspings

You just got tomahawked

You just got tomahawked

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

H-Town

The Battle Bakery [vPie]

N/

Do you absoloutely need an elemental axe?

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

no

its just i made my guide to be the fastest uw farm so yeah

ele axe/sword of sehlter = for graspings and gathering smites

and zealous of enchanting = for killing smites...

you can do an entire run with just the zealous, it would take a min or 2 more.

Dark Tykane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Cult Unseen

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by dont feel no pain
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Bonneti's is plainly for the graspings haha i thought we were talking about grasps?

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Tykane
haha i thought we were talking about grasps? my bad yeah, i usualy do the graspings with just visages + bonnetis even though i used phys resistance in the vid.

Chocolate_Prayers

Chocolate_Prayers

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Australia

Mo/

firstly, thankyou for posting the build
i finally got around to getting my warrior ascended so i could give it a try.
on about my 5th run... well, check the screenshot for yourself

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocolate_Prayers
firstly, thankyou for posting the build
i finally got around to getting my warrior ascended so i could give it a try.
on about my 5th run... well, check the screenshot for yourself

LOL gratz, yeah you can get some real odd drops with passage scrolls, they all seem to come in doubles or triples =)

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth

Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by T1Cybernetic
Im not even using whirlwind attack! I mess up so much i decided to slap lions comfort back into my setup instead so really it is not needed but it does add to the total run time. Since i put whirlwind attack back into my setup i can do a run easily in under 15mins (laid back) so i recomend once you have done the run a few times and are happy that you wont need the healing, swap lions comfort out if you are using it and prepare for some extra damage and smoother runs...

{IceFire}

{IceFire}

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

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Wait, you can do this in HM? I thought it was NM only :P

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by {IceFire}
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Wait, you can do this in HM? I thought it was NM only :P Im pretty sure its nm only, i made it to be that way.

Chocolate_Prayers

Chocolate_Prayers

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Australia

Mo/

only worked in normal mode for me :P

fujin

fujin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Hong Kong, all the way in Asia :O

Officer of United Jedi [UJ]

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I thought they hit way too hard in Hard Mode ;p

Evenstar

Evenstar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mystic Falls

Guildless....

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look guys im having a prob at the smite section when i take 3 groups of smites i use sv pr (physical resistance) and i have a full knights armor and superior absorb but the keep dealing 5 dmg and kill me fast what should i do?

fujin

fujin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Hong Kong, all the way in Asia :O

Officer of United Jedi [UJ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Evenstar
look guys im having a prob at the smite section when i take 3 groups of smites i use sv pr (physical resistance) and i have a full knights armor and superior absorb but the keep dealing 5 dmg and kill me fast what should i do? Are you sure you have all of your armor pieces with Knight's Insignia? Also, you need 3 Superior Absorption Runes and 2 Major Tactics+Axe mastery... Even one Rune change can make a big difference (For the Abosorption/Knight's that is).

The reason you're taking 5 damage however, is most likely because if your shield. You should have a -2 In Stance Inscription on it, it makes a big big difference. You only take either 3 damage or none, and that's very important. If you want to relieve some of the pressure, just don't aggro to many groups until you're experienced enough to do so. :)

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by fujin
Are you sure you have all of your armor pieces with Knight's Insignia? Also, you need 3 Superior Absorption Runes and 2 Major Tactics+Axe mastery... Even one Rune change can make a big difference (For the Abosorption/Knight's that is).

The reason you're taking 5 damage however, is most likely because if your shield. You should have a -2 In Stance Inscription on it, it makes a big big difference. You only take either 3 damage or none, and that's very important. If you want to relieve some of the pressure, just don't aggro to many groups until you're experienced enough to do so. Im pretty sure 1 sup absorbtion coves all... and you only need minor tactics.

Chocolate_Prayers

Chocolate_Prayers

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Australia

Mo/

yea, i think even on the wiki it says that the superior absorbtion effect is global.. however i still manage to take 3/0 damage from the smites at most times.. although maybe it's because my superior absorbtion is on my boots

what i dislike about the smites part is that sometimes some of the smites fight the coldfires and win.. then when i bring past my smite groups, they aggro onto the other smites and start killing each other -- meaning i dont get anything from those that got killed by other smites :/

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocolate_Prayers
yea, i think even on the wiki it says that the superior absorbtion effect is global.. however i still manage to take 3/0 damage from the smites at most times.. although maybe it's because my superior absorbtion is on my boots

what i dislike about the smites part is that sometimes some of the smites fight the coldfires and win.. then when i bring past my smite groups, they aggro onto the other smites and start killing each other -- meaning i dont get anything from those that got killed by other smites :/ yeah i gather like 4 groups and i was like WOOT nice spawn.. then they killed each other...

Evenstar

Evenstar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mystic Falls

Guildless....

E/Me

i have -2 shield my absorb rune is on the helm maybe that is the prob