W/Me Uw Solo V2 [axe+sword] - Mass Aggro Fun (12-15min Run)

Ugoff The Unholy

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by blackknight1337
ugoff....have you ever done smite farms.....

if you don't kill graspings, you can't get out of the chamber, otherwise noone would kill them, they drop crap.

illusion of weakness is bad for this run, cyclone you need to keep adrenaline up.

vamp axe is possible to use, but only for grasps, and i wouldn't even bother. at the point where you need the health, you are better off using zealous axe and physical resistance.

and when you pull grasps and get the 2nd + 3rd groups, run past the center of the circle a bit, and then back to a bit out of aggro from where you pulled them. its a bit hard to explain, but if you stay in enraging and run almost to the spirits, you can stay away from attaxe every time. then you have to run back almost to the stairs so you don't lose a group of graspings. then age-old combo to kill them off. No, thanks for asking. I've only trapped them, and that was around 2-3 years ago. I just bought GW again after a 2 year break.

Thanks for your response, I appreciate it.

expounder2

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

I finally got killing the graspings down.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

GJ on the 1min, you'll get alot more of them from now on

Performance Pudding

Performance Pudding

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

post ascalon

Over The [Wall]

W/

i totally fail at this how much health do you have?
it takes me 4 min to clear the chamber then when i hit the smites i get pwned even after i left them lose all there e wtf am i doing wrong >.<

mr_groovy

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

got 5 globs in total yesterday. Tanking 5 groups is fun again. Still don't know if the loot is better or worse then E/Me build.

Hullo_0

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2006

ELM

R/

with the -2/+45 shield i can only take 1 or 2 groups of graspings, slowing the run significantly.

Is it possible to take all 3 groups wth this shield?

xxx wraith xxx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

The netherlands

N/

i did this build for a while and then i did some other things. Came back to farming UW last monday again and....2 hours of playing got me 10 ectos but yesterday after 3 hours of farming i got only 4 ><

the next info is to make pulling easier for those who dont know if they should pull extra groups yes or no
number of smites when you have a -2/45 shield: min:5 and max 12
number of smites when you have a -2/-2 shield: min:4 and max 24 (more or less)

blackknight1337

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Mo/

wraith i have never had a problem with having too many smites pulled, and i just use a -2/45, never had a -2/-2

i've gotten one group of 18-20 once, the key is ball them up before they start hitting on you, then quickly chain attacks + visages, the energy drain is incredible, and you can kill them off in 15 sec flat

if you run properly, you will have more trouble with cannibal smites than with pulling too many, reguardless of the shield you use

Ambuu

Ambuu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

good running day for me, got 3 ectos after the first 2 runs

Ugoff The Unholy

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

I think I'm finally getting the hang of it. I can clear almost all the smites except 1 group of 3-4, they're always right in the middle of those 3 Coldfire patrols in the "second" half of the area, I guess you could say.

Got my first ecto drop today, too.


I think the real key is getting the right equipment. I failed so miserably before mostly due to having no Knight's Insignias or the like.

smt

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2007

W/Me

hey, if you don't have factions would arcan echo be a good substitute of visage

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by smt
hey, if you don't have factions would arcan echo be a good substitute of visage possible.. but risky and too energy costly, i wouldnt advise it

govolunteers05

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

within the spirit world

Satsu Motte Menboku [Tora]

Rt/

This might be my weird idea, but what if you put Drunken Master?
Is it gonna push back Aatex?

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by govolunteers05
This might be my weird idea, but what if you put Drunken Master?
Is it gonna push back Aatex? its a good idea... but yeah but it would prob cause you to die XD

Ugoff The Unholy

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

I'm getting the lamest rubberbands ever...

Usually when I'd get them, I'd be running and shortly warp back to where I started.

Now, in UW, I might lag a little and get body blocked by a mob but on screen it shows me running safely away. I'll be half a radar away with damage counters popping up all over and the mob attacking the air way back. I have to physically RUN back to them to reaggro and stop the weird "rubberband". Insta-death when it happens with Aataxe.

Sk8tborderx

Sk8tborderx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

PA

Us Are Not [leet]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ugoff The Unholy
I'm getting the lamest rubberbands ever...

Usually when I'd get them, I'd be running and shortly warp back to where I started.

Now, in UW, I might lag a little and get body blocked by a mob but on screen it shows me running safely away. I'll be half a radar away with damage counters popping up all over and the mob attacking the air way back. I have to physically RUN back to them to reaggro and stop the weird "rubberband". Insta-death when it happens with Aataxe. Just type /stuck and it will take you back to where you are supposed to be.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sk8tborderx
Just type /stuck and it will take you back to where you are supposed to be. is this a joke? i dont wanna go through the ffort of geting myself stuck and... not laughing XD

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth

Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg]

N/

No thats actualy a genuine command see here: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Commands

Quote:
# /stuck Use it to free your character if he/she becomes stuck for any reason

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

damn.... wish i knew that earlier....

poon warrior

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2007

Don't feel no pain- is there any way I can run this build or a build similar to it if I only own the original Prophecies campaign and do not have access to some of those skills? Thanks!

el_mansour

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

W/Mo

Hi
Nice work ,i look forward to play this character m/mes axe build ,in ur first page . Runes: Major Strength, Major Axe Mastery, minor tactics
is it minor strength or major?
I only have 1 elite luxon armor for now with str helm and sentinels insignia ,i am planning to buy new elite armor for this guy gladiator shall i buy reg helms or elites helms for different builds about adding different pieces from other armors
what u think ,i have the money
thank you again for good job

i just got today icy shephis axe of shelter with insc highly salvageable ,shall i replace insc with something else?
TY

Ugoff The Unholy

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

Referring to above ^^^

You don't really need strength for much other than your shield req, so it really depends. You'll probably want an axe mastery helm, I'd go with a 1k model if you don't use axes primarily. I have my helm hidden permanently anyway, though.

Replace the inscription with either +15% dmg in stance (iirc) or +5 energy which is my personal preference.

Zabe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

In world with nothing to do except poker

W/Rt

Started at lvl 18 =p goodway to lvl 20 ^^ And this is doable without max attributes even. I were missing 30 attris when I started.

very good farm thx for sharing

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

=D no problem, lol i thought this thread had died

Adam144

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Castleford, England

None

E/

GOnna try this build as soon as I get the shield.. just need 2 more sandblasted lodestones

I'll let you know how it goes, with some screenshots if I'm successful

Zorgy

Zorgy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

Paris, France

[any]

W/Me

Never tried this build....as I use the W/RT one.....should try it one of those days.

Concerning the ecto's average drop it depends how many times u do it...in a week for instance.

If I solo farm once in a while I often get 3 ectos. Then if I retry it just after, I most often get ONE ecto or even ZERO.

If I solo farm on an every day basis, I usually get 1 ecto per run. I can do 3 runs & harvest....1 only.

According to me the more you do it....less ectos you get.

So as it is quite boring & that I dont need $ I now do it once a week.

Please tell us the results of your own experience concerning the ecto average drop....thx.

lordkamara

lordkamara

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

Oregon

Guardians For Life [HERO]

W/

How can i get whirlwind attack? i checked the Wiki and it only referred hero skills and my w/ is a proph character and hasnt done anything with night fall so..How do i get it? i have one warrior tome.

blackknight1337

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Mo/

the hero skills guy in sunspear hall is best place to get it, its not far outside kamadan

lordkamara

lordkamara

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

Oregon

Guardians For Life [HERO]

W/

kk thanks ill go get it now =]

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorgy
Never tried this build....as I use the W/RT one.....should try it one of those days.

Concerning the ecto's average drop it depends how many times u do it...in a week for instance.

If I solo farm once in a while I often get 3 ectos. Then if I retry it just after, I most often get ONE ecto or even ZERO.

If I solo farm on an every day basis, I usually get 1 ecto per run. I can do 3 runs & harvest....1 only.

According to me the more you do it....less ectos you get.

So as it is quite boring & that I dont need $ I now do it once a week.

Please tell us the results of your own experience concerning the ecto average drop....thx. My thoughts -

yes i find if you over farm a spot you need to take a break or you'll be doing usless farming

i killed a mob of 19 before and came out with 2 ecto and 2 passage scrolls, but nothing else, this also makes be believe that killing mobs reduces crappy drops, keeps good drops the same, hence the loot scaling list

Mandorin

Mandorin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/

Hey guys.

I tried this build out last night and I really like the fact that there are no self healings in it!

But I am having some major troubles with smites. After 8 attemps I still haven't killed a single group.
I try to gather them as you do in the video, so far so good. But I am unable to keep energy up for triple chop, cyclone and visages. I'm using the order which you suggest in the first post. I'm using the specified gear.

Do you use you're zealous when fighting smites? I only have a zealous sword atm, is it any idea to get an axe?

Adam144

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Castleford, England

None

E/

I was also having trouble with energy whilst fighting smites. If you look at the video, you'll notice as soon as he uses cyclone/triple/whirlwind, his energy goes back to maximum.. that's the zealous axe haft. I've just spent ages finding zealous axe haft, 15% while in a stance, -2 dmg while in a stance.. and some new shields for weapon set.. I hope it's worth it.

So yeah, I had the same problem, I only managed to kill 1 smite when I tried it before I died :P

Edit:

SUCCESS

The new equipment helped SO much. I can't believe I overlooked the requirement for a zealous axe. Also, if you think "oh i'll just aggro a small group of smites to practise".. don't. It's SO much easier with more smites because they all lose a lot more energy.

Thanks for this build DFNP. I love you.

xxx wraith xxx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

The netherlands

N/

k i believe ive posted this somewhere in this thread b4 but the number off smites with a -2 shield are:

Min:3 ofc but if youre unexpierenced with this build then agro a second group
perfect: 6 cause if instant recharge on Whirlwind
Max:12 and then you have to be lucky they dont crit much

these are the statistics with a -2 stance shield.

If youre really wanting to pull only 3 smites then you have to put SV/AV up and just hit once press tab hit other one press tab and hit third one. now w8 till youre first Visage is halfway on the recharge and put the other one up
now after 2 secs spamm youre attack skills. At a certain point 1 wil be dead and 2 dont this is when youre Ressistance runs off, now use bonettis for the energy and as soon as you hit 20 energy use Ressistance+Visage. Now you can kill them. TBH i think a pull of 3 is the hardest pull on this run.

blackknight1337

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Mo/

hmm wraith i don't see how you get a max of 12 smites that you can take with -2/45 shield, i've pulled 20 before and lived to tell.

what ruins the big smite pulls the most is the cannibal smites, not how many you can pull. i prefer 12 or more when i can pull that many cause it makes very sure none of them have any energy at all. the smites only crit for -3 on me, and they don't seem to crit a lot when your standing still.

xxx wraith xxx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

The netherlands

N/

hmm then maybe i just suck :P

Willly T

Willly T

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

[SSBM]

R/

does this build still work? I can clear the chamber and kill the smite crawlers, and I have yet to get an ecto? has solo'ing the UW for smite crawlers been nerfed? (I'm asking this because some people told me it was)

Capozide

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Florida

Red Dragon Knights Of Cantha [RDKC]

I still get ecto, albeit not as much as Don't Feel No Pain says he does... maybe he is just lucky. Some runs turn up none, some turn up 1-4 and few golds.

Also this build is quite good although the UW spawns are shit, I die many times with bugged Aatxes that won't break off with Sprint on (no I'm not stuck... I know when that happens).

I don't get how most people clear the Graspings so fast... I normally have to wait for them to all be out front for about 2 minutes so I can gather them all up. Takes on average 3-4 minutes to clear the chamber, just to wait for good positioning.

blackknight1337

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Mo/

wraith the trick is killing with speed....ball them up before you stop and use your first visage, then don't move around. then when i stop i go visage => cyclone => whirlwind => triple => visage then whirlwinds and your cyclone should be recharged here then cycle again. i auto hit maybe twice during my whole cycle, the rest is always using an attack skill. when i did this run a lot, i had about 460 health and another 45 in stance, and smites get only 3 dmg on crit, so they have to crit 160 times or so to kill me, which is 8 times a smite. with 20 of them, most of the smites are dead when the second visage is out, which i believe is 15 sec or so? no way they should crit 8 times that quickly.

when i finish big groups like that i generally have about 200 health when they are all dead. big groups are the best for 2 reasons: 1, it speeds up the run a lot, and 2, when you have that many their energy drains almost instantly, so you don't take anything at all from zealots fire.

Adam144

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Castleford, England

None

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by blackknight1337
wraith the trick is killing with speed....ball them up before you stop and use your first visage, then don't move around. then when i stop i go visage => cyclone => whirlwind => triple => visage then whirlwinds and your cyclone should be recharged here then cycle again. i auto hit maybe twice during my whole cycle, the rest is always using an attack skill. when i did this run a lot, i had about 460 health and another 45 in stance, and smites get only 3 dmg on crit, so they have to crit 160 times or so to kill me, which is 8 times a smite. with 20 of them, most of the smites are dead when the second visage is out, which i believe is 15 sec or so? no way they should crit 8 times that quickly.

when i finish big groups like that i generally have about 200 health when they are all dead. big groups are the best for 2 reasons: 1, it speeds up the run a lot, and 2, when you have that many their energy drains almost instantly, so you don't take anything at all from zealots fire. I agree with mass-aggro being the best way to kill. However, my only problem with it atm is the smites breaking aggro after a certain amount of time spent running to other groups.

Anyway, this build is still great, but I've only got the smites 3/10 times I've been in the UW, mainly due to unlucky spawns or getting stuck on the run.

Srry is My Trademark

Srry is My Trademark

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Nerfed yet, almost every build that is realy good and was posted in GWG has been banned in past years so enjoy it while u can people.