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Malchior

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07 Oct 2007 at 12:58 - 81

Quote:

Originally Posted by PureEvilYak

You know what went through my head when I looked at those (amazingly taken) pictures?

Mini mini mini mini mini... and so on.

Oh, and can about 30 elementalists meet me outside Sifhalla? I have a plan to unfreeze him, but we need a LOT of fire storm.

Hell yeah, A mini would be pretty cool! Also, you have the 30 ele's and I'll do the assassin shadow stepping rebirth! Maybe we ca lock him up and sap his power somehow =o

Use it to kill off the charr and retake ascalon...Hmmmm

Guildmaster Cain

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08 Oct 2007 at 08:49 - 82

But tapping into his power will just corrupt you, like Joras brother who became the Nornbear...

Malchior

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08 Oct 2007 at 15:06 - 83

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain

But tapping into his power will just corrupt you, like Joras brother who became the Nornbear...

Hmmm, perhaps. But maybe there's a possiblilty of getting something good? That would rock, lol.

Random curses FTW

Arturin

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2007

The right tub

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25 Oct 2007 at 09:50 - 84

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mournblade

Jora's brother tried to use divination to find out more about the 'feelings' he was sensing. I would suppose he tapped into the dragon's emissions and got the backlash from it.

What Cinematic was that?

CrAzZyKiLLa

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[MONK]

W/Mo

25 Oct 2007 at 11:35 - 85

**MAYJOR SPOILERS!!!****MAYJOR SPOILERS!!!****MAYJOR SPOILERS!!!****MAYJOR SPOILERS!!!**
**MAYJOR SPOILERS!!!****MAYJOR SPOILERS!!!****MAYJOR SPOILERS!!!****MAYJOR SPOILERS!!!**

Heres a link to wiki about all the Ancient Dragons, they are more powerfull than all the gods, glint and kunn and also older than them.
The Great Destroyer was one of there most powerfull generals!

Quote from wiki "These horrors are controlled by no god nor any other power known to the races of Tyria"

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ancient_dragons

These will be our main foes in GW2.

Here is a great read about the back story of GW2 and the future of GW:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/The_M...t_of_the_World

I Cant Wait to try and kill those things

Sirius-NZ

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Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

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25 Oct 2007 at 12:22 - 86

Yeah, that's fairly well-known news by now.

PS. Spell check.

Malchior

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26 Oct 2007 at 02:12 - 87

Update: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Drakkar

A screenshot of Drakkar has been added to wiki along with a link to this thread. They have also adopted the name "Drakkar" which I gave the beast. =o

I feel all excited and stuff! Thank you very much to whoever put the content up there and thank you to all who supported this thread with their opinions, thoughts and comments.

Shadowmere

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18 Nov 2007 at 18:10 - 88

Hmm...well here's my theory on the origin of these dragons. These dragons are old, older than old in fact, which has been stated many times already.
So assuming that the 5(6) gods are actually gods and did in fact create the world, then logically they also created these dragons.

Perhaps these dragons were they're first attempt at giving their creations magic, but like their later attempts it was too powerful. These dragons probably royally messed up their world and so the gods likely entrusted Abbadon god of secrets to seal them away/deal with them as he saw fit. Of course later on Abbadon went awry and got himself locked up.

However with Abbadon's recent demise it's probably likely that w/e magic he had keeping these dragons asleep slowly started to fall into disrepair.

And thus Primordius was able to awaken enough to create the destroyers and start the GW:EN storyline.

Just my crackpot theory, but I just like the idea that the gods are true gods.

Malchior

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18 Nov 2007 at 18:28 - 89

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowmere

Hmm...well here's my theory on the origin of these dragons. These dragons are old, older than old in fact, which has been stated many times already.
So assuming that the 5(6) gods are actually gods and did in fact create the world, then logically they also created these dragons.

Perhaps these dragons were they're first attempt at giving their creations magic, but like their later attempts it was too powerful. These dragons probably royally messed up their world and so the gods likely entrusted Abbadon god of secrets to seal them away/deal with them as he saw fit. Of course later on Abbadon went awry and got himself locked up.

However with Abbadon's recent demise it's probably likely that w/e magic he had keeping these dragons asleep slowly started to fall into disrepair.

And thus Primordius was able to awaken enough to create the destroyers and start the GW:EN storyline.

Just my crackpot theory, but I just like the idea that the gods are true gods.

That's a pretty good theory. =o

YornStar

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18 Nov 2007 at 18:50 - 90

damn i would friggin ultra skaesahfgugef LOOOOOOOVEEEEEEEEE to fight those beastly dragons

kinda reminds me of Shadow of the Colossus

Malchior

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18 Nov 2007 at 21:36 - 91

Quote:

Originally Posted by YornStar

damn i would friggin ultra skaesahfgugef LOOOOOOOVEEEEEEEEE to fight those beastly dragons

kinda reminds me of Shadow of the Colossus

What's "Shadow of the Colossus"?

sickle of carnage

Wilds Pathfinder

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18 Nov 2007 at 21:54 - 92

I even went out to take a look D= It's pretty sweet. Nice find.

Malchior

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18 Nov 2007 at 22:28 - 93

Quote:

Originally Posted by sickle of carnage

I even went out to take a look D= It's pretty sweet. Nice find.

Did you manage to see anything?

Thank you, it was very hard to miss. XD

Shadowmere

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19 Nov 2007 at 05:38 - 94

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malchior

What's "Shadow of the Colossus"?

it's a very very good game for the Playstation 2, all the enemies are as big and bigger than Drakkar here. If you've got the system I recommend checking it out.

Malchior

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19 Nov 2007 at 16:16 - 95

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowmere

it's a very very good game for the Playstation 2, all the enemies are as big and bigger than Drakkar here. If you've got the system I recommend checking it out.

good to see someone still liking the PS2! I'll try to check it out.

Sister Rosette

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Sapporo

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19 Nov 2007 at 16:32 - 96

You'd think that something that powerful wouldn't be stupid enough to take a nap in hover mode.....or to fly that low to the ground to begin with....

Shanaeri Rynale

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19 Nov 2007 at 17:34 - 97

Maybe it did'nt have a choice? Compare it with the flash frozen woolly Mammoths we see in Siberia.. Certainly if you look just above the lake it looks like the land has been contorted in someway(and not by geological folding) with glaciation heading south right to port sledge , maybe thats what froze the Drakkar dragon?

genjyo_sanzo

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20 Nov 2007 at 18:03 - 98

That thing is huge. O.o dang. It sure looks like something between Lugia/Latios/Latias. >.>; interesting enough, the last two in the PKMN world happen to be classified "dragon" pokemon. At this rate I'm almost expecting to see a Rayquaza look-alike

MrGuildBoi

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21 Nov 2007 at 00:02 - 99

lol, imagine like if you clear Drakkar's Lake in HM, you wait 30 mins, you see/feel a huge earthquake and something shattering, then you see Drakkar in the air then he flys straight towards you and you get to fight him. That will be scary.

Mist Walker Skarloc

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21 Nov 2007 at 07:29 - 100

I hope we get to fight 'em in GW2 like WoW raid bosses.

"'k, our Obsidian Tank just got hit for 6000"

Much more challenging than dungeon bosses we have. (This is from watching/hearing about it, I don't play WoW, so I'm safe from flamers)

master koa

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23 Nov 2007 at 02:07 - 101

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuzyhamster

... It's likely that the whole area was vastly water and this receded back. Maybe from an earthquake?

It doesn't seem possible that a high, mountanious region like the Southern Shiverpeaks was once covered in water.

By the way, it's an otter.

Longasc

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23 Nov 2007 at 08:16 - 102

Master Koa, the Alps were also once at the bottom of the ocean.

But then... the Dragon had to be there in ancient times. Still, they are called Ancient Dragons for a reason.

We still do not know some facts:

1.) How long have they been sleeping
2.) Why were they sleeping

Was it some kind of hibernation? Or was it some kind of forced sleep?

These dragons seem to have immensive destructive power, the "Great Destroyer" also seems to be some kind of dragon. The ancient dragons are also somehow connected with the Destroyers.

If someone put them to sleep, it is disturbing that nothing seems to have been done to kill the beasts. At least the Drakkar dragon was exposed to all kind of harm in this valley. I cannot imagine that he decided to sleep there out in the open by free will.

The other disturbing thought is that these dragons are so powerful that they can rest everywhere they want, as there is nothing that could kill nor harm them in any way, with them being the extreme top of the food chain.

1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

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23 Nov 2007 at 08:21 - 103

If I am not mistaken the original gods fought with the dragons and only managed to put them in a deep sleep.

Also the great destroyer was basically the head dragon's alarm clock, by defeating him in GW:EN we pretty much just slowed down the awakening of the head dragon by about 200 years.

Sirius-NZ

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23 Nov 2007 at 11:42 - 104

Hmm. It occurs to me that GW2 could benefit from a little touch of Ragnarok...

Guildmaster Cain

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23 Nov 2007 at 12:29 - 105

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1 up and 2 down

If I am not mistaken the original gods fought with the dragons and only managed to put them in a deep sleep.

Also the great destroyer was basically the head dragon's alarm clock, by defeating him in GW:EN we pretty much just slowed down the awakening of the head dragon by about 200 years.

Do you have any written evidence of that? Not that it sounds unlikely. But I've been looking for any evidence of original gods and how the dragons got hibernated in the first place.
My theory was that the dragons might have been the original gods and they were deposed by Balthazar and Co. This explains why the first creature that the original gods created were Glint (a Dragon) and Forgotten (dragon-like beings, look at the mural of a Forgotten in Ascalon city). After that, Balthazar and Co deposed them and created the rest of Tyria.

Free Runner

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23 Nov 2007 at 13:13 - 106

What 1 up and 2 down said about "Dragons vs Gods" is one of the theories given in the other Dragon thread. The thing about the alarm clock is however in a way true.

One of the people from Anet have said they put the Drakkar there to show it went to sleep and gradually had the enviroment change around it.

1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

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24 Nov 2007 at 17:52 - 107

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain

Do you have any written evidence of that? Not that it sounds unlikely. But I've been looking for any evidence of original gods and how the dragons got hibernated in the first place.
My theory was that the dragons might have been the original gods and they were deposed by Balthazar and Co. This explains why the first creature that the original gods created were Glint (a Dragon) and Forgotten (dragon-like beings, look at the mural of a Forgotten in Ascalon city). After that, Balthazar and Co deposed them and created the rest of Tyria.

Actually I do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate Guild Wars Guide

These mystic and terrifying creatures rival the gods themselves.

This was from the pcgamer magazine that had lore about GW2 and what I quoted is talking about the dragons.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate Guild Wars Guide

Although the death of the Great Destroyer, his most powerful general, set back the dragon's awakening by two generations, Primordus once again rose to create ever more minions far beneath the ground.

This was also from the pcgamer magazine.

So I do in fact have "written evidence".

Nevin

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24 Nov 2007 at 18:50 - 108

I have a feeling due to the model's great amount of detail. Perhaps its a model already in use in GW2? Such as a boss.

After all GW2 is still Directx 9.

Free Runner

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24 Nov 2007 at 22:15 - 109

The whole rival thing never actually says anything about the gods facing the Dragons and putting them into a deep sleep. All it seems to say is that the Dragons rival the gods in terms of power (especially since it says Glint and Kuunavang are nowere near there power before that line)

1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

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Rt/

24 Nov 2007 at 23:36 - 110

Quote:

Originally Posted by Free Runner

The whole rival thing never actually says anything about the gods facing the Dragons and putting them into a deep sleep. All it seems to say is that the Dragons rival the gods in terms of power (especially since it says Glint and Kuunavang are nowere near there power before that line)

Pfft they were being vague in case they wanted to change some details. But I am almost positive that I am right.

Kess De Molay

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25 Nov 2007 at 06:36 - 111

As to some of the questions of fighting the dragon, if you think back to the PCGamer Issue where you could get a Mini-Asura, it says something along the lines of ...

"Imagine a dragon comes flying along and begins attacking a bridge, all the characters in the area can choose to help fight the dragon and be rewarded, or let the bridge be destroyed, causing workers to take a month to repair it.."

Something like that, this is how they sort of began the talk of GW2 in that Mag.

Theo Godscythe

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25 Nov 2007 at 21:04 - 112

Wowsers! I always saw the flippers but I never stopped to try to make sense of it. (all Elementals scared my Survivor away)
But anyway, WOW!

Malchior

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15 Dec 2007 at 02:01 - 113

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theo Godscythe

Wowsers! I always saw the flippers but I never stopped to try to make sense of it. (all Elementals scared my Survivor away)
But anyway, WOW!

Yup, it's beauty alright =P

And to all those concerned: The Drakkar, along with the other 4 dragons, have been in a deep hybernation. It is stated so in the magazine that gave out the mini destroyer. The Drakkar slept in a place that was - at the time - safe. It has been asleep so long that the world changed around it over the course of over 11,000 years (I think at least), and now it is under a lake.

The thing mentioned about a dragon destroying a village and ect about GW2, It wasn't a direct reference, it was an example. There will be dragons in GW2 however I think they'll have more to do that break a bridge or two.

My best guess is, the 5 Gods we know, are infact beings of imense power, so old that they themselves come from a time when the true giants lived on tyria as told in the lore (Which is like 10,000 Before Exodus). God-like to us as we have limited power, however these 5 gods gave the world magic. If they can GIVE magic that powerful imagine what they DIDN'T give, lol.

These dragons no doubt have this same type of raw, ancient magic. If the gods and dragons clashed, it would mean the end of us all. Perhaps that's a reason that the gods haven't been seen as much in GW2 after the dragons awoken, because they know that waring with the dragons to save tyria would actually do so much mor damage than letting the dragons have it.

The true giants/dragons and the 5 gods are amazingly powerful beings, and I think that at one point they waged war between one another. The 5 gods somehow found a way to escape to the rift, and with them gone the dragons saw nothing else to do than hybernate. Or perfats the dragons first went into hybernation and with nothing to do the 5 gods left to the mists, who knows? =P

Malchior

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15 Dec 2007 at 02:08 - 114

Also, I would like to add that I now have a new computer with a much better graphics card, and I haven't yet tried to clear the lake out again to see if I may still view the Drakkar as clear as I once could, however I would assume not now...

Good thing I have like 50 screens of the damn thing! XD

Jesse

Krytan Explorer

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New York

Vanquishing Memories [VM]

Mo/Me

15 Dec 2007 at 04:09 - 115

its gonna be awsome have like 200+ people all fighting this one HUGE dragon that just destroys everything. Kind of arcadey...if you know what i am saying. Kind of like the feeling they were trying to get at with abbadon, the feel of fighting a true god or huge creature or one huge mega boss that takes sooo much to defeat. if anyone ever played silkroad online on the europ servers there was the one dragon that would randomly spawn and just destroy people left and right

FOUND IT: watch this video

http://youtube.com/watch?v=G87eU764ZI8&feature=related

that would be sweet if thats what the dragon fights are like in GW2

mazey vorstagg

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Nodnol

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E/Mo

15 Dec 2007 at 09:05 - 116

I'm hoping even bigger than that! more like this

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iaHw8CqI6VY

Performance Pudding

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post ascalon

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15 Dec 2007 at 10:34 - 117

i dont know if anyones mentioned this but you can see it on your map from maximized zoom(the full map) so ya its easy to spot if you want a good scale just go into drakkar lake then open ure mini map and ull see it takes up most of the zone.

also my comp runs gw on highest graphics and i can c it fine so ya.

Vicks

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Flaming Turtles

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16 Dec 2007 at 06:24 - 118

Heh. If we have to fight the water dragon it will probably be a mission that takes place INSIDE it.

rhydeble ragnarok

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17 Dec 2007 at 18:45 - 119

that post about the asura golem combinations made me get an idea.

What if the Asura actually captured the powers of the gods, and put them in golem, then Dwayna golem and Balthazar golem could fuse into WAMMOBOT. not to mention LYSSA golem and DWAYNA golem into (huge drums) ECHO MENDERBOT

LeetScythemaster

Academy Page

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Dragonslayers of Ascalon

D/Mo

17 Dec 2007 at 22:53 - 120

I had to run out on Drakkar myself and check it out. Boy was I shocked at how big Drakkar really is. While doing this, I also thought "how big are these dragons really?" Which then prompted me to press "m" and bring up my map.

The following image may startle some:

As you can see, Drakkar can be seen all the way zoomed out on the map. That means this (the smallest of the dragons) is already insanely huge. I can't begin to imagine what the others look like, let alone fighting them.

Edit: Image was cropped out of larger map image fyi