Drakkar Lake ice creature screens

English Warrior

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Well you think thats big have you seen the grothmar wardowns dragon thats got its own island lol also the kaineng dragon is looking at the shing jea dragon?bogus?

LeetScythemaster

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yeah, i just couldn't get a clean map ss of it with the char i was on. But yeah, the Wardowns dragon's back is the size of the entire dragon of Drakkar.

B. Dent

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La Lee Lu Lay Lo

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Does anyone know anything about these 2?

Free Runner

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They were brothers that challenged Grenth to a duel and lost to him. He then decided to turn them into twin serpents as punishment.

B. Dent

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La Lee Lu Lay Lo

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Free Runner
They were brothers that challenged Grenth to a duel and lost to him. He then decided to turn them into twin serpents as punishment.
could you possible provide a source? I love fluffy backround story type stuff. and am interested to know more.

Free Runner

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The Reaper of the Twin Serpent Mountain (Where your screen is) explains it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper of the Twin Serpent Mountains
Long ago, the god of death was challenged to a duel by two brothers. Grenth was so angered by these two mortals, that instead of simply granting them the sweet peace of death, he turned them into twin serpents and forced them to serve him in the Rift for the rest of eternity. This mountain stands as a reminder to all those who serve Grenth. Be careful that you do not incur such a punishment

Ele Mental

Ele Mental

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GOOD FIND
Someone suggested in one of my posts that this creature will smash down eye of the north.
My original idea was that at the back of the honour shrine there is a path
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10260690
Any suggestions?
Post in either thread

Yamagawa

Ascalonian Squire

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Odin's Hammer

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Looking at the 2 dragons in EoTN reminded me of a poem I once read...


Fire and Ice

SOME say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I’ve tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice, 5
I think I know enough of hate
To know that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.
~Robert Frost


One dragon of fire, another of ice. Either alone would be sufficient for the destruction of the world, what might both bring? (And I seem to recall the Norse mythos having the world end with ice...)
//Yamagawa

KnivesOfBloodAndPain

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Hmmm if they made Drakkar a fight-able creature in GW2, imagine the possibilities. *imagines* A huge dragon comes to attack Olafstead, we are sent there to try and stop it, we die. It attacks the EoTN we are summoned there by Glint to kill her demented uncle, we die. It goes to Sifhalla for a martini but doesn't pay afterward, the cops send us there to arrest it, we die. Need I continue?

If Anet decides to put it in GW2 then it'll be some kind of challenge mission where we fight off Drakkar's ice minions and at the end, Drakkar comes and kills us, our reward? A nice room with a view in the Hall of Heroes.


* Drakkar obviously DOESN'T look like Lugia, more like a bunny. A sick, twisted evil bunny that everybody hates.

Eldin

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Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

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Methinks the dragons are so huge we'll either battle them on the inside (think Gate of Pain but more actiony and the dragon is marching towards the Eye of the North as you are inside it), or...

As the dragon makes its way to the Eye of the North or wherever, you ride on its huge back. As many people as you want can ride on him, but the "ride" would be really shaky. You will have to move around him to avoid falling off and cracking your head open on the ground. Perhaps as this goes on you have to make your way to his head and poke his eye out (but he's so big "poking" his eye would be like fighting a level 31 "eyeball")?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeds
Well you think thats big have you seen the grothmar wardowns dragon thats got its own island lol also the kaineng dragon is looking at the shing jea dragon?bogus?
Those. Are. STATUES! If they were actual Dragons, why do they keep spitting out fire? Also, if there was no known origin, the Canthans would have already taken ships over there to check em out (then again the Norn sure don't seem to care about Drakkar).

Perhaps they were made as a monument to something, by the same person, so they intentionally face one another?

Konig Des Todes

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Ooo, pretty flower

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The dragons in cantha are not statues...they are LIGHTHOUSES. Come on, think about it, do you think Anet was really thinking about the ancient dragons concept when they were DESIGNING Factions?!? Please, enough with that annying concept, it has no real evidence to suggest it being an ancient dragon.
Anyways, I find it funny people are still thinking "if" they make Drakkar a boss in GW2. Trust me when I say this, they will, and if I am somehow wrong and they don't, then NPCs kill it, its 100% known its a main enemy of GW2, just like Primordus.
But something that would be cool, is if they add a random general of one of the dragons or a weaker ancient dragon to awaken and attack the players as they explore, of course making it a very high level, like lvl 40 , as just a random pop up, or adding in quests, just to satisfy people like me who are waiting on the edge of our seats for our chance to fight the dragons in GW2.

Numa Pompilius

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If dragons can be fought in GW2... Well, think "raid".

Eldin

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Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

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Good idea Azazel. We already know that GW2 will have random events in explorable areas, know what'd be annoying but funny?

One of the dragons just flies by and you have to hide or you'll get BURNINATED!

Then again the timing may be annoying if you're about to turn in some big quest.

scrump

scrump

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theres more to come in gw2, theres supposed to be an orrian dragon, and this one takes back the norn territory, forcing the norn out.

Milea

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omg it's Nesie!!!! (Loch Nes Monster)

monk of the godss

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Melbourne, Australia

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In the old days of prophecies it was said that the stones that let out the magical powers to everything any anything were found by the gods? Perhaps these stones were from the dragons(i think eggs that have laid dormant with parents) and it says that the gods got the stones taken from them but it doesn't say what from?

Gmr Leon

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Er..You're a bit confused.

The Gods created the Bloodstones after Doric went to Arah and made a plea for them to help. The Bloodstones trapped certain aspects of magic so that others could not use all of them together and instead would have to work together to get the full effect. After they made the Bloodstone, it was split into several pieces, and dropped into the volcano at the Ring of the Fire Islands Chain.

You have:
Aggression
Denial
Preservation
Destruction

Then lastly, the Keystone. Without it, you cannot reassemble the other Bloodstones.

Numa Pompilius

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On the subject of the Norn ice dragon: have you guys noticed there' a similar "glow from below" near the fossilized centipede-like monster just north of Leviathan Pits?
I can't see any dragon in the jade there, but it's awkward to maneuvre the camera there so there might still be one.

Konig Des Todes

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That centipede monster is called a Leviathan, you can fight some in the Deep.

It isn't a dragon, we won't be able to see any ancient dragons in any place except Eye of the North. ANet didn't plan THAT far ahead.

I wish people would get that...

Numa Pompilius

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I wish people would learn to read. The glow doesn't come from the centipede monster, it's just nearby. AFAI know this is one of only two places in all three campaigns where there's a "glow from below". Also AFAI can remember there was no glow there before EOTN was released.

Konig Des Todes

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You want another "glow from below?" Go to the Gate of Secrets, walk into the Domain of Fear, just in front of you there is a glow from below, hard to notice. On the mini map it just looks like a light blue area, look closely at the ground and the ground brighten ups as you get closer to the center. I believe this glow is The Spider's Heart landmark that was found in the gw.dat, but that's unknown.

I think there are other places as well with a "glow from below."

Also, I think the glow was there before EN actually.

Free Runner

Free Runner

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Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

I believe the glow is just an effect for the block of jade. Its possible that your just seeing it now after seeing the Ice Dragons strange glow (which is yet to be determined as a strong effect or actually intended)as i have seen a couple of blocks with the exact same glow long before EotN.

Light of the Shiverpeak

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Very nice picture, although I expected the dragons to be bigger. Much, much bigger, like ultra super giganticus lupicus size. Even though I don't know much about their size . Anyways awesome picture! ANet made those frost things atop of the ice very cartoonish, or rather bad animated. You know, those big snowflake thingys. Hope they'll changet that in GW2.

Free Runner

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Light of the Shiverpeak
Anyways awesome picture! ANet made those frost things atop of the ice very cartoonish, or rather bad animated. You know, those big snowflake thingys. Hope they'll changet that in GW2.
Thats because his graphics card cannot render them properly.

stouda01

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full drakkar



I have his model in 3dsmax so if any1 want it..i can upload it somewhere

Gmr Leon

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How did you get that? Did you extract it from somewhere..?

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

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I was wondering the same thing...

Free Runner

Free Runner

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It is still rather interesting to get a proper view of the Drakkar without that sheet of ice in the way.

stouda01

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Quote:
Originally Posted by GmrLeon
How did you get that? Did you extract it from somewhere..?
I extracted model with 3D Ripper DX..well actually I extracted whole map xd..then I deleted everything else except drakkar, used texmod to get texture because it was grey ><..(when i tried to get hall of monuments it was textured ok :/ )..if any1 else would like to extract something with 3D ripper you'll need some patch to open it in3ds max...i dont remember where i get it Just google it )

draxynnic

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[CRFH]

I wonder if that's actually what the dragon looks like, or if its actually supposed to have wing membranes between those spars that ANet either put in the lake texture instead, or figured no-one would be able to spot anyway?

Konig Des Todes

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The legs seem too thick to be wings imo. So I doubt that is what they are. Drakkar does seem to be more of Norse Dragons *basically giant water creatures* instead of the basic European *like Glint and seemingly Primordus*, Japanese *like Kuunavang*, or African *drake-like, tiny tiny wings*. Which makes sense seeing the origin of the Norn.

And as far as I can recall, it never says that Drakkar ever flown, only Grothmar does. Drakkar pushes the Norn south with the ice creatures, never says he flies over them. So I guess he will be crawling when we fight him. If they make us fight the dragons *with how they word the "real-time-events" that will happen, it seems like they will be like raiders in WoW (of what I heard of those), so I'm starting to have doubts of us killing ALL the Ancient Dragons*.

Pwny Ride

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Quote:
Originally Posted by stouda01
full drakkar



I have his model in 3dsmax so if any1 want it..i can upload it somewhere
Doesnt look like it *needs* wings in the end. It actually looks much more menacing this way. Reminds me of one of those wierd monsters in Start Wars Episode II in that arena fight scene.

Shasgaliel

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For me it looks like enormous avalanche/stone shard crag. Mostly the head... Actually I have not come across the origin of any of the elementals. What do you think? Might there be some connection between this dragon and avalanches/crags maybe other ones as well?

stouda01

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pwny Ride
Reminds me of one of those wierd monsters in Start Wars Episode II in that arena fight scene.
That's exactly what crossed my mind

Free Runner

Free Runner

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shasgaliel
For me it looks like enormous avalanche/stone shard crag. Mostly the head... Actually I have not come across the origin of any of the elementals. What do you think? Might there be some connection between this dragon and avalanches/crags maybe other ones as well?
Well it is the Dragon of Snow and Ice. While i dont think they came from it they could of had some association with its power. Note that when Svanir uses his spell to try and reveal the magic that is coming from the lake he becomes corrupted - and his Nornbear form gains icicles on its arms and back.

Konig Des Todes

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shasgaliel
For me it looks like enormous avalanche/stone shard crag. Mostly the head... Actually I have not come across the origin of any of the elementals. What do you think? Might there be some connection between this dragon and avalanches/crags maybe other ones as well?
As I understand it, the non-Stone Summit controlled Ice Elementals in the Far Shiverpeaks were either created by Drakkar before his hibernation, or were forged with his power as they were seeping out of him. Or possibly they were created by the creature I think to be his general *the Ice Pillar Lizard-like creature*. Or by both.

What is known, thanks to Svanir, is that Drakkar had SOMETHING to do with at least the elementals in Drakkar Lake. I would assume it is the same for all others as well though.

draxynnic

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin
The legs seem too thick to be wings imo.
I disagree - the bones and muscles for the wings of a creature like that would need to be pretty strong to be able to bear its weight. What I can visualise by looking at the model is a wing membrane stretching from the front limbs to the back and extending a little further beyond before rejoining the body just in front of the tail. Even then, magic would probably be helping.

You could be right - although they don't look like they're formed correctly for legs to me. Possibly fins, though - or it could be a structure that works just as well as wings or fins.

Interesting thought about the dragon having a general in the area... Remnant of Antiquities, perhaps? Is it actually specified anywhere just which Antiquities it's a remnant of?

Konig Des Todes

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I don't think it is, but that isn't the creature I was talking about. Which I'm sure you are aware of. The Remnant of Antiquities doesn't seem to be strong enough to be a general of a Ancient Dragon. Maybe a Captain/Lieutenant, that is, if he is affiliated with Drakkar. The same can be said for Elsnil Frigidheart and Myish, Lady Of The Lake.

Only Myish is given a description of my looking around, which is:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Notorious Foe: Myish, Lady of the Lake
Wanted: Myish, Lady of the Lake
Signature attack: Onslaught

Myish dwells within the great frozen lake in Drakkar Lake. She possesses a powerful bond with the elements, forcing magical creatures of ice and water to respond to her every will and command. Few travelers venture to the lake and return to tell the tale after catching a glimpse of her haunting beauty.
With having a powerful bond with the elements, and forcing magical creatures of ice and water, it is clear that she serves Drakkar, and since she isn't that strong, is probably not a general, but a captain or lieutenant.

Back to the Remnant idea. I would think whatever it is a remnant of, the Fragments of Antiquities were also a part of, the Remnant just being a "bigger piece."

Edit: Found something on the Remnant's origin:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sage Bollnar
Oh, my. Frightful creatures await you inside, manifested of ice and forgotten memories. Not the sort of thing I care for, you know. One story even tells of a guardian known as the Remnant of Antiquities awaiting within the anvil chamber. It is said the creature was shaped and brought to life by the Great Dwarf himself to guard the anvil until such time that our people would once again need its power. The tales also tell of one who would prove worthy of claiming it. I can only wonder at what terror could, watching and waiting for ages innumerable, down in the dark. The thought makes my spine tingle. That place is its domain, friend. I could imagine the air itself turning against you. Best step lightly.
So it seems it was the Great Dwarf who created the Remnant of Antiquities.

Free Runner

Free Runner

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Interestingly enough after you defeat Myish, her scythe appears inside the ice rather than on top of it. It almost looks like it was frozen within the ice.

And lets remember the Great Dwarf has fought a general before - wether he knows that is unknown. But i wouldnt be suprised at him creating a guardian from the experience of fighting a previous general.

Gmr Leon

Gmr Leon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin
it is clear that she serves Drakkar
No, it really isn't. Consider the fact that there are various magical specimens in the Far Shiverpeaks. Demons and spirits all over the place that have it out for people. That Myish is amongst those doesn't make her any more significant.

Besides, if you read all the signs in Sifhalla, it proves my point quite well that Myish is one of many creatures in the area that is powerful. Whether it be in magic or strength isn't particularly important.