HoS chest runs?

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Let HOS alone. It hurts no one and people are actually enjoying GWEN for a change.

Probably the best advertisement for GWEN yet, as there is not much else to do there. QFT! I have the onyx and diamonds to get 2 destroyer weps in about 2 weeks of farming this pretty hardcore. Please leave this alone and maybe I will not be leaving GW the day Starcraft 2 comes out.

Yeh, its great fun .. ive been doing it all day, can even solo it now .. but its boring doing all that damn running lol

best thing i got is onyx aswell lol, had about 8 of em today, 6 dimonds and shit loadsa shit =D I don't know, I have been doing it with our alliance. I have not laughed this hard in a long time. We are having fun watching people die and racing to the end. It is all good fun.

Like I said before. This is the first fun I have had in GWEN since release. I hope they take a while to hit it with the nerf bat.

Please remember...

I must not GRIND. GRIND is the mind-killer. GRIND is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my GRIND... I will permit it to pass over me and through me.

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I must not GRIND. GRIND is the mind-killer. GRIND is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my GRIND... I will permit it to pass over me and through me. Hmmm - never been there or done it myself, but I am laughing over one curious thing.

The quote - too funny .

The grinding quote (Litany against Fear) was one that was being used to defend the Duncan bug. Seems to me that despite the quote, you have no problem at all grinding endlessly over and over on things that give a high proportion of reward per the little effort put in.

Is it perhaps that grinding (read endless repeats) is OK with you as long as someone gives you plenty of nice shiny toys very quickly? Your quote at the end has always sounded rather cool to me, but the threads I have noticed it being used the most don't relate to anti-grinding - they relate to defending personal gain and the fastest means of wealth creation gimmme gimme gimme style.

Just an amused observation that the use of this quote is being diminished in my eyes.

Having played the mission on the weekend for the first time I could understand how this dungeon could be run and exploited. To me this smacks of exploit rather than bug like the Duncan one. There is therefore a more substantial argument to keep it left alone. Having said that, I will not be surprised if the developers toughen it up. Seems to make sense to do so in the true spirit of dungeon crawling.

I've seen a Rt do this run. Any idea of the build? Any idea what his secondary was?

My guildleader runs as a Rit/Dervish all the time with enchanted haste

Hmmm - never been there or done it myself, but I am laughing over one curious thing.

The quote - too funny .

The grinding quote (Litany against Fear) was one that was being used to defend the Duncan bug. Seems to me that despite the quote, you have no problem at all grinding endlessly over and over on things that give a high proportion of reward per the little effort put in.

Is it perhaps that grinding (read endless repeats) is OK with you as long as someone gives you plenty of nice shiny toys very quickly? Your quote at the end has always sounded rather cool to me, but the threads I have noticed it being used the most don't relate to anti-grinding - they relate to defending personal gain and the fastest means of wealth creation gimmme gimme gimme style.

Just an amused observation that the use of this quote is being diminished in my eyes.

Having played the mission on the weekend for the first time I could understand how this dungeon could be run and exploited. To me this smacks of exploit rather than bug like the Duncan one. There is therefore a more substantial argument to keep it left alone. Having said that, I will not be surprised if the developers toughen it up. Seems to make sense to do so in the true spirit of dungeon crawling. If you read the conversation carefully, you will see that I was enjoying the time with my alliance members. It was funny to watch it all.

As for making money, the drops have been minimal for me, but the laughs have been priceless. As for making money in the game, my ele/a can make a whole lot more in doa, tombs, underworld, ect.

So, if you are looking at time to reward, then your argument would not hold water because I can make a whole lot more per hour doing other things. I do it because it is fun and I enjoy the alliance interaction and the fun to run there.

As for toughing it up, there will always be a way to get around it with talented players. The rest suffer and I end up soloing again because they make it harder for the average player to do things like this.

Please remember, I am the one stating that I don't mind prices coming down. There is plenty of places for a player to make money outside of GWEN that earns a lot per hour.

Now, as for the dungeons, they are not that hard. Boring to do, yes. The same one is used again and again, so it is true grind. GWEN with so little content and so little to do other then GRIND keeps me away from it. So this was the first time I was in it because of the interaction, since my ranger finished.

Now, if you want to learn some skills, learn to go to the elite DOA areas, and want a challenge doing it solo, let me know. I will be more then happy to show you how to make money that way.

Please remember...

I must not GRIND. GRIND is the mind-killer. GRIND is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my GRIND... I will permit it to pass over me and through me.

tbh the drops arent that good, real farmers wont bother with this run. You're not a real farmer. I'm guessing you did maybe 5-10 runs and the drops sucked for you? I've done somewhere around 50 runs or so. Lets see now....I've gotten

A handful of Onyx and Diamonds (these do add up ya know?)
Tons of greens to satisfy my heroes
R9 Pyroclastic Axe (sold for 100k + 75e)
R10 Runic Blade
R10 Legendary Sword
Gold Naga Shaman Polymock
A couple of platinum staffs
and a heap of other things that I can't remember....

Needless to say GW:EN hasn't been out long but "real" farmers have already cashed in on this.

With the PUGS I've been with I've seen numerous Ele Swords drop, countless Legendary, Singing Blades, Platinum weapons and Runic Blades. GosH so much good stuff drops from the chest I can't remember them all. Is it all luck? YES most definately. But guess what? The more you do it the better your chances are of getting something. Even if you go 50 runs and get total crap....I'm willing to bet you anything even the crap you get from the chest will add up to $$$. Guaranteed!!!!!! Until the nerf. =p

Wow. I don't understand.... how were people getting asura faction from HoS? I wasn't getting any for sure.. As soon as the chest spawns you get 200 asura faction

Which is really nice i think.. xD

Sounds real realiable. But honestly, I would be surprised if they aren't thinking of a way to stop this. The only thing that'll be keeping me from it will be the double faction weekend. Since you accused me of either lying, being stupid, or crazy.

I guess I was right!

I read many web sites everyday, I don't often note where I read tid bits from.

Wow. I don't understand.... how were people getting asura faction from HoS? I wasn't getting any for sure.. 300 asura faction upon completion.

I guess ArenaNerf wants us to spend hours farming Magus Stones if we want to craft armor, even though armor was one of the MAIN PARTS of an expansion that we paid for...

This is still 100% doable just takes longer cause magmus has like 30x the health. Alas, this is - at best - only a vague exageration, based on the 20 (fully triggered off an 8-man party) Pain Inverters it took for me to kill him. There was some regen in-between, since pretty much each PI came off a full wipe, but still... This is a *HUGE* boss buff, although still doable. If they're going to feed a guy this many steroids, they should at least give him some more treasure to guard!

As an aside, I guess ANet must have some kinda useage-monitoring stuff in place (y'know, seeing how many people go where, how many of type-X reward is given out, etc) - thus, if they see hundreds of Magmus' Chest being opened in small time periods, they probably figure something's going on that makes his chest so popular, and in this case they've nerfed it...

So, my question is - do they also look at what quests/dungeons *aren't* done, and similiarly investigate why this part of their game is being ignored by their players?

I'm wondering... if the boss was super-buffed, is it still acceptably doable with a normal party of 8? I don't mean 8 "runners", I mean a balanced party fighting all the way.

I get the impression that with such a buff, 1 human and 7 H/H wouldn't be able to kill the boss now. Only one keg dropper and 7 easy targets? You don't need to drop kegs to beat Magmus. It's done in chest runs because it's quicker, since everyone is set up for run/survival and not offense.

You don't need to drop kegs to beat Magmus. It's done in chest runs because it's quicker, since everyone is set up for run/survival and not offense. Did you tried to kill him after the update? Even with 8 runners giving him something like 200dmg per second with kegs he survives for a long time and can easily wipe the entire group. I don't know if it is really possible to kill him without kegs know...

Did you tried to kill him after the update? Even with 8 runners giving him something like 200dmg per second with kegs he survives for a long time and can easily wipe the entire group. I don't know if it is really possible to kill him without kegs know... I've done the chest runs since the update yes. But no, I haven't fought him in a regular team. I never said it'd be easy, but suggesting it's impossible is more than an exaggeration, especially considering the post made before yours...

The run is definitely still doable, but Magmus is a lot tougher. With enough barrels he goes down, but I'd hate to face him without them. Did you guys see that the whole party is now rezed at the completion of a dungeon? Love it. Yeah, love that addition. I am glad they made it harder, but still not to the point where I can't play with a pug or with my alliance/guild.

You are not gonna get rich off of the run unless you are very lucky, but it is a lot of fun to do.

Please remember...

I must not GRIND. GRIND is the mind-killer. GRIND is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my GRIND... I will permit it to pass over me and through me.