New Update!

Rocky Raccoon

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

I think people should wait to see how things work before they jump to conclusions on how this or that will affect the game. It could be that what is being said will happen, but at least it is an attempt to correct some problems.

Raccoon

Raccoon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Me/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
The time-outs encourage griefers to sync with one damage dealer and 3 prot/healers. All they have to do is make one kill and they just heal away for the remainder of the match.
SSSHHHHH!

I have noticed that the amount of monks in TA and RA has gone up considerably.

Keithark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Be Aggressive B E Aggressive [AGRO]

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Horuku
This sucks. A lot. So here I am not knowing about this new update so I leave my team because the 4th didn't load. Now I'm stuck unable to play for over 60minutes? WHY AM I NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY A GAME I PAYED FOR?

Leavers were not that big of a problem. If it happend, you hit F12, log out, relog in and go on again. It really wasn't that big of a deal. It is the nature of random arenas. But now, if you have a really crappy team, you're stuck.

This on top of the Glad Point carebare BS. I was working my butt off to get glad rank 3, I was 15 points from it. So much frustration to get that high, and now its easier than stealing candy from a baby.

And btw, I have 1mil+ faction so I know what the feck I'm talking about.

EDIT: The time remaining instead of elapsed is the only good thing to come of this. I can't tell you how many games that have gone on for over an hour because of idiots running away.
A) You are stuck and can't play..well then the update worked...got rid of leavers.

B) "Leavers are not a problem" and "I worked my butt off"....do you really not see that you did nothing? Just join and quit until you get a great team then rolling 10 randomly chosen teams is not work!

C) 1 mil faction is not much reall....and has nothing to do with you knowing anything about anything

D) QQ

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

There's more griefing than ever in RA. Too many teams with 2 or 3 monks just healing away until the timer goes down. This update had good intentions but lack of testing.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
There's more griefing than ever in RA. Too many teams with 2 or 3 monks just healing away until the timer goes down. This update had good intentions but lack of testing.
At least theres a timer......

TheRaven

TheRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Virginia

Spirit of Elisha

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raccoon
The questionable names thing annoys me too. My mesmer R A C C O O N has had a few people tell me my name is apparently racist. I'm Australian so I have no idea if this means anything to anyone else.

But my mesmer is my main, in full obsidian, has all the titles etc. No way I'm deleting it because someone thinks the name is offensive. I chose the name Raccoon because mesmers wear masks and Raccoons have the mask pattern on their eyes.
I wouldn't worry too much about your name. The word raccoon is not offensive in and of itself. I'm sure there are certain contexts where it could be, but by itself it's fine.

The only time I see this being a problem is if a computer program is set up to judge what's offensive and what isn't. As long as a real live human is making the calls, it shouldn't be an issue.

I was playing on another game site once and got banned for offensive speech. I didn't say anything wrong. After some research I found that the statement that got me banned was "it's possible for your score to be negative in this game." Huh? What could possibly be racially offensive in that statement!???!!!?

It turned out that the word "negative" is banned. In looking back at the chat logs, the statement actually appeared in the chat room as "it's possible for your score to be ----tive". The "nega" in negative sounds too close to another term that is highly offensive and so I got banned.

This is what happens when computers decide what's appropiate and what isn't.

EinherjarMx

EinherjarMx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Mexico

La Legion del Dragon [LD]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
There's more griefing than ever in RA. Too many teams with 2 or 3 monks just healing away until the timer goes down. This update had good intentions but lack of testing.

maybe now we can see more caster hate, mesmers, necros, daze assasins, bha rangers, enchant removal, and so on

reverse_oreo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Scars Meadows [SmS] Officer (not recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Acehigh
They only dropped from Charr during the preview weekend. I don't know if they will start dropping again, I would assume so though as they count toward the Adventurer of the North title.
wow thats weak. I cleared 3 areas full of charr last night and got NO plans. I hope they fix this so i can do the mission.

HKSdivision

HKSdivision

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

HAHAHA! Yes! Finally they do something about the leechers, leavers, bots and so forth! Can you say owned?! hahaha!!!

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by reverse_oreo
wow thats weak. I cleared 3 areas full of charr last night and got NO plans. I hope they fix this so i can do the mission.
They started dropping again, i got one just last night.

Taki

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

N/Me

It'll be interesting to hear how the reporting feature turns out. Rest of the update is ok I guess.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
Does this mean I can get reported for saccing myself at the start of an RA match so one of my teammates can make minions???
lol

Yes, and rightfully so because you know that saccing yourself in RA is griefing. Your teammate with minions also needs to be reported, just for bringing them to an RA match.

wilson

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

aggro bubble

[RD];[FW];[GOTS];[baed];[kiSu]

They should have made "Dishonorable" a title. I'd farm that. Probably the only title worth having.

wolfwing

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

One new thing I've noticed, unless it falls under the *we announce it now* I've been getting a message about +100 reputation for killing bosses. THough I'm not sure if I actually GET the points.

Rocky Raccoon

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendary Battousai
Ok, this Dishonorable shit is horrible.

Reasons why:
1, Bad people on your team - you can not leave.
2, Your team will obviously lose - you can not leave.
3, 10 Seconds of waiting at the end of every match - which you can not leave from.

So; if you also agree this system is terrible, do this:

Make a PvP Only Monk
Equip 5 Superior Runes
Run this bar: [Dishonor;OwUTEsGD3QkLBEAAAAAAAAA]

If enough people do this; clearly they need to have the report feature accept reports on people being terrible at this game.
You sound like you are a leaver and this is going to hurt you personally. How many competitive games do you just quit because you are losing? We have a term for people like the above they are called poor sports.

wolfwing

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Funny thing is, this update helps RA alot. Most 'terrible' teams I get into that win at least 1 match usually make it 5-8, rarly do they get 10, now this way you actually get one gladiator point, so less excuse, and with syncing being canned, there will be less chances of perfect teams being created, and if they are it's totally random.

Rocky Raccoon

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by HypnotiX
its ppl like you that are turning a decent pvp game into a bitching moaning frenzy because other players dont consider your FEELINGS....

grow up.
I thought random arenas were for people to learn PvP. If you are so good at it maybe you should help the people who aren't as good as you are learn how to play. It is a team and you are certainly not a team player as can been seen by your comments.

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by wilson
They should have made "Dishonorable" a title. I'd farm that. Probably the only title worth having.
I was thinking the same thing. It'd be funny, especially if it was a mandatory display in PvP outposts on all characters in your account. And just for fun, max dishonorable rank= Ban!

mlandry

mlandry

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Risky Ranger
I thought random arenas were for people to learn PvP. If you are so good at it maybe you should help the people who aren't as good as you are learn how to play. It is a team and you are certainly not a team player as can been seen by your comments.
Maybe he doesn't want to help them? If I were to help/answer to every annoying person who messages me just because they see my titles I would never get any time to play. If he wants to farm the gladiator title, it's now a tedious task instead of something midly-fun (I still think all PvP in GW blows) because he has to stick with people who have never played.

And who the hell do you people think you are, telling that guy who had to go eat that he shouldn't be playing when he has to go eat. Seriously, he RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing payed for the game and he has the right to play it whenever he damn wants to. One person leaving in AB will not change much, and at least 3-4 people leave every single match for each team. He is being put in "timeout" for that, it's ridiculous

This update is horrible, seriously... I am not going to go on my 55monk for the next month at least because I will get banned for it because of the retards that thing being guildless obviously = bot.

Reporting anti-social behavior? WTF? I don't like answering to everyone all the time and now they can report me for it? Like those annnoying people in low-level towns that whisper you to join their guilds... now I have to answer them or I might get banned? Wow great stuff.

This game isn't about having fun anymore, it's about watching your every action so you don't accidentaly hurt some idiot's feelings and having them get their guild to report you. If they don't remove this update after this weekend, I'm finding a different game to play.

Seriously, I hope all you whiners are happy, you are killing the game one update at a time.

DoA is too hard! Nerf it!
PvP is unfair because I use an inspiration-only mesmer and everyone leaves when I show them my build! Force them to stay!
People have to leave a PvP match for any given reason that might of been unexpected to them when they started the match, make them unable to play for an hour!
That guy is a monk with no guild, Report him!
I want all the rare skins because obviously I CAN'T enjoy the game without them! My character sucks if he doesn't have that one skin! Make sure they aren't rare at all anymore!

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

How is this any different from ppl taking screenshots, and reporting them via support?

Anet's just making it a lot easier. They also sided with a segmented of the community that feel that leavers, leechers, etc are a problem and empowering players to be able to report issues quicker and easier.

@ mlandry

People are also reading the update wrong.
Leave = 1 point = new game *1* min wait to get back in
60 min to work off that 1 point.

Now say they leave 5 times = 5 min downtime before entering a new pvp
It will take 5 hours took work off those 5 points.

What have you heard that the same rules/test's conditions for punishment would be any different from what they are now.

ducktape

ducktape

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by mlandry
This update is horrible, seriously... I am not going to go on my 55monk for the next month at least because I will get banned for it because of the retards that thing being guildless obviously = bot.
I do think that will be a big problem, hopefully they will not ban anyone and will instead scold people who report others as bots based on something trivial like not having a guild. Or better yet, don't let people use /report at all for botting, botting accusations can easily be a vendetta report done by a few people and will waste the most support staff time investigating the reports.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mlandry
Reporting anti-social behavior? WTF? I don't like answering to everyone all the time and now they can report me for it? Like those annnoying people in low-level towns that whisper you to join their guilds... now I have to answer them or I might get banned? Wow great stuff.
While not talking to people who pester you could be considered anti-social in some cases (I agree though, why waste your time talking to random strangers) that's not what they mean by reporting people for anti-social behavior. They mean reporting people who are badly spamming, advertising gold selling, harassing other players, scamming, and so on as far as anti-social behaviors that deserve being reported.

Cobalt

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

Well the PVP reporting thing will get abused that is a virtual given, and when it comes down to it, it will be a he said she said problem so there will be no legitimate reason for Anet banning players who report no matter how many times they do it. People will be getting bans for doing nothing wrong, people will be reporting out of revenge etc.. it will be a joke.

Having players police players is a bad idea and really not the players responsibility either.

The other thing is people leaving was not the major issue and I don't think people resigning a drawn out lopsided battle should get punished. I mean I can't blame anyone who does not want to get their butts handed to them over and over for leaving, the game is about fun and that is not fun. I don't leave myself but have no problems for those who do especially under those circumstances.

It would much simpler to just put a faction degen for those who do not leave the starting area or do not move after 180 seconds. If you have not moved in three minutes your not participating.

Quote:
* Adjusted gates on the first and second levels of the Heart of the Shiverpeaks dungeon to prevent an exploit.
I have only ever done one HoS chest run just to see what all the fuss was about but I can tell you HoS runs were NOT exploits it was just the easiest dungeon chest to get at.

Anet puts out the free candy then when you go after the easiest piece to get they slap your face. There is absolutely no excuse for this nerft it is a typical Anet just wants to be aholes to everybody because they can BS nerf.

MoldyRiceFrenzy

MoldyRiceFrenzy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Santa Rosa, CA

Confusion in The Ranks[tArD]

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by trielementz
/resign and get team mates to do the same if it's really that obvious you won't win?
how many times have u been able to get ur entire team to resign in ra. please tell me.

MoldyRiceFrenzy

MoldyRiceFrenzy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Santa Rosa, CA

Confusion in The Ranks[tArD]

Mo/W

without getting into to much politics... i hate socialism

they complain and complain until they get their way, which they believe in the bottom of their heart is the dream, but when it comes their way, it becomes the opposite. Some of these ppl are the ones that arnt affected so keep on saying its nice, nice. some others will try to make believe it works, and will force themself to make it sound perfect. Others will figure out what just happened and turn, but then will be drowned out by the rest of their ex-side'ees. Leavers dont always = grinding gladiator pt... ppl who think every leaver like that are morons. You want to waste time, go ahead and stay if u want, I don't care if YOU want to waste your time, its not ok if I DONT***.

Anyways, its kind of funny how ppl used to complain about leavers, leaving their team, but then leave right after. Why was that? please tell me why u just left ur team? Please tell me. So now... that somone just left ur team right now... you want to leave your team too? I believe the time saved is alittle bit more than 10 seconds... O wait, do it more and you get some pvp ban'age.

don't u love to waste ur time? duncha wanna? duncha?

rotielover

rotielover

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/Mo

I have been playing Aspenwood, and at first there were the usual lots of leechers and leavers. Once the reporting began, we got full teams that stay for the whole match win or lose.

Sure, matches take longer, but they are now fun since you don't know who will win. Still the occasional leaver, but they get DH and can't enter for a while.

@ Cobalt - this is not a ban as in "you are kicked out of GW", it is a spank on the hand and several minutes in the time-out chair. If you go 60 minutes without doing it again, the points/minutes reset. If you do it again and again, you will sit longer and longer. It seems fair to me -- maybe I will actually try RA now.

6am3 Fana71c

6am3 Fana71c

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

People, I asked something in OP... >.<
Will this save PvP? Or at least lower it's death penalty? ^^
I saw more people playing RA, more people in TA too...didn't checked AB or Aspenwood but I supose situation is better in those places also...With more activity and new people in RA/TA/AB maybe more people will get to intrest in HA too?

Steps_Descending

Steps_Descending

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

IN my pocket plane. Obviously!

Little Tom's Pocket Plane [THom]

Me/Mo

The last two (by the time i'm typing this) comments amuse me because they are the first positive comment i see here...

So what will everyone say once this system has proved it was useful, when we wont get a leecher more than once every week? "God! It's about time ANet implemented a /report system!" will probably be the most popular quote.


EDIT : Ok ok i'm a bright-eyed fool! No need to say it again. I'm still sure it will help in some way.

Zehnchu

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steps_Descending
The last two (by the time i'm typing this) comments amuse me because they are the first positive comment i see here...

So what will everyone say once this system has proved it was useful, when we wont get a leecher more than once every week? "God! It's about time ANet implemented a /report system!" will probably be the most popular quote.


EDIT : Ok ok i'm a bright-eyed fool! No need to say it again. I'm still sure it will help in some way.
The lazy people will be saying that since the never could use the existing system that was already in place.

while wrongful bans will increase, scare scams to get money from people will be on the rise. And I am sure there will be a few groups that will announce that they are Anets secert police as they go from town to town threating people better not be botting, and to behave or they will get reported.

MoldyRiceFrenzy

MoldyRiceFrenzy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Santa Rosa, CA

Confusion in The Ranks[tArD]

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steps_Descending
The last two (by the time i'm typing this) comments amuse me because they are the first positive comment i see here...

So what will everyone say once this system has proved it was useful, when we wont get a leecher more than once every week? "God! It's about time ANet implemented a /report system!" will probably be the most popular quote.


EDIT : Ok ok i'm a bright-eyed fool! No need to say it again. I'm still sure it will help in some way.
what happens when it doesnt?

so...
the leeching yes, that may be useful
report- feels like a big tattle for 12 year olds, and although i will probably be banned for raging at ppl, it doesnt hurt me to bad now
dishonor system... thats where it hurts..

dont punish ppl when ur game tells ppl that everyhting is "casual" by making it so we cant try to use our time to its better potential.

Bankai

Bankai

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Bubblegum Dragons

Mo/E

Whoops, forgot to put in my 2 cents.

I guess this will be the 3rd positive comment?

I like the new RA. No leavers.

MoldyRiceFrenzy

MoldyRiceFrenzy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Santa Rosa, CA

Confusion in The Ranks[tArD]

Mo/W

i wish i could go 55 on ur team and then maybe u could take that back?

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

I like new RA. Tried few matches today. No leavers.
Awesome.

Hyper Cutter

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

Quote:
Players may now display Silver Eagle armor in their Hall of Monuments.
About time, I say.

MoldyRiceFrenzy

MoldyRiceFrenzy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Santa Rosa, CA

Confusion in The Ranks[tArD]

Mo/W

i think the amt of time wasted when ur team leaves still doesnt compare in my opinion to those matches that go on forever because ppl CANT leave.

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by MoldyRiceFrenzy
i think the amt of time wasted when ur team leaves still doesnt compare in my opinion to those matches that go on forever because ppl CANT leave.
Yes, but everyone hated leavers. Even leavers hated leavers.

And there's a time limit even. So they don't go on forever.

MoldyRiceFrenzy

MoldyRiceFrenzy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Santa Rosa, CA

Confusion in The Ranks[tArD]

Mo/W

well, if u think 30 seconds to rejoin to 8-12 minutes saves time then, well...

EVERYONE is a leaver. when you make a change that punishes leavers, ur just punishing everyone, just some ppl dont figure it out.