I had a great time playing GW for a little over a year, and then the grind and the attitude of the anet team finally told me it was time to leave the game, which I did (Im soo much more happy too). All that I see on these forums when I come back for a peek are complaint threads. If you hate the game now or anet then just stop playing. If you love the game then keep playing. Some of you need to save your bloodpressure and just give it up like I did. No online fee is worth dealing with anets new grind fest or their lack of respect for the players.
Why do some of you keep playing?
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Originally Posted by frodo7
I had a great time playing GW for a little over a year, and then the grind and the attitude of the anet team finally told me it was time to leave the game, which I did (Im soo much more happy too). All that I see on these forums when I come back for a peek are complaint threads. If you hate the game now or anet then just stop playing. If you love the game then keep playing. Some of you need to save your bloodpressure and just give it up like I did. No online fee is worth dealing with anets new grind fest or their lack of respect for the players.
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I went through a pretty negative couple weeks and nearly quit. I have had favorite farming grounds (which I only used for a quick couple plat if I had to) get nerfed...chest running nerfed...favorite builds nerfed, some butt hole ripped me off (left me dead and waited for timer to run out...stole my drop), I accidently salvaged the wrong bow and got planks, I was called a niggger while monking, my guild dissappeared after I paid for the new Guild Hall and after two runs to the UW for a spider and having someone else charm it...I'd had enough.
...Factions was a dissappointment, Nightfall on the other hand perked me back up a bit with the addition of heroes. I quit playing with real people for a couple months. I worked on a title or two and eventually had a great conversation with a friend who played the game with a guild that was active, funny and didn't take things too seriously...I joined up. Now, I play with my guildies and with heroes. My nephew was just deemed "old enough" and is now online...I spend a lot of time showing him the ropes.
I bought Eye of the North and after getting Grandmaster cartographer of Tyria title, I stepped back from the game and realized how freakin huge it is! I could play for another 2 years and still not do everything...grind? only if I make it that way (i.e. last 5% of cartography title). I'm seven titles away from getting a rainbow phoenix...at least 6 months away. I have tons to do and only 5k in my account...I've burned my gold on armor and the occasional pretty weapon...I guess I've come to accept that nothing comes easy, people can be decent and no goal is unacheivable...no grind if I switch goals from time-to-time...over 4400 hrs since beta and my first toon was deleted after 6 months (I hate to think about it...and someone took the name!)
I have hated the game and what it was doing to me...frustration level was intolerable. But now, I play about 4 hours a day (where I used to watch TV...more depressing than ANY game experience)...some days I don't play at all, some weekends I marathon for 12. I have learned to relax, not covet what others have and play the game for my own purposes. Sometimes I see something I think is worthwhile as a goal and I give it a shot...If I get frustrated or bored, I go off and do something else...Learning to adapt has made all the difference in how much I enjoy playing. I used to worry about getting "stuff"...now I concentrate on just playing...go play!
As for "bitch threads"...if there were no Guild Wars, they'd be on some other game forum saying the same things (and probably are). Some people only thrive in turmoil, whether it comes from somewhere else or they create it...If other people appear happy, they cannot be. I advise you to read their threads and learn how not to be.
...Factions was a dissappointment, Nightfall on the other hand perked me back up a bit with the addition of heroes. I quit playing with real people for a couple months. I worked on a title or two and eventually had a great conversation with a friend who played the game with a guild that was active, funny and didn't take things too seriously...I joined up. Now, I play with my guildies and with heroes. My nephew was just deemed "old enough" and is now online...I spend a lot of time showing him the ropes.
I bought Eye of the North and after getting Grandmaster cartographer of Tyria title, I stepped back from the game and realized how freakin huge it is! I could play for another 2 years and still not do everything...grind? only if I make it that way (i.e. last 5% of cartography title). I'm seven titles away from getting a rainbow phoenix...at least 6 months away. I have tons to do and only 5k in my account...I've burned my gold on armor and the occasional pretty weapon...I guess I've come to accept that nothing comes easy, people can be decent and no goal is unacheivable...no grind if I switch goals from time-to-time...over 4400 hrs since beta and my first toon was deleted after 6 months (I hate to think about it...and someone took the name!)
I have hated the game and what it was doing to me...frustration level was intolerable. But now, I play about 4 hours a day (where I used to watch TV...more depressing than ANY game experience)...some days I don't play at all, some weekends I marathon for 12. I have learned to relax, not covet what others have and play the game for my own purposes. Sometimes I see something I think is worthwhile as a goal and I give it a shot...If I get frustrated or bored, I go off and do something else...Learning to adapt has made all the difference in how much I enjoy playing. I used to worry about getting "stuff"...now I concentrate on just playing...go play!
As for "bitch threads"...if there were no Guild Wars, they'd be on some other game forum saying the same things (and probably are). Some people only thrive in turmoil, whether it comes from somewhere else or they create it...If other people appear happy, they cannot be. I advise you to read their threads and learn how not to be.
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Because GW is THE game for me. When i started playing, it was love at first sight.
I see a lot of people complaining about grind and other stuff, but the grind of GW is nothing compared to the other games i came from, NOTHING! Who played Lineage 2 or Ragnarok or even Mapple Story knows what i'm talking about, so, sometimes i can't really understand why people complain so much about grind...
I see a lot of people complaining about grind and other stuff, but the grind of GW is nothing compared to the other games i came from, NOTHING! Who played Lineage 2 or Ragnarok or even Mapple Story knows what i'm talking about, so, sometimes i can't really understand why people complain so much about grind...
Hall of Monuments, doing HM / Vanquisher while getting good drops that help fund my "elite" armor unlocks, doing stuff with Guild Mates and friends.
Since I'm learning the "efficient" things such as Ruins Of Shala wurm farming for ss/lb points (that makes it bearable and profitable). Kuz FFF with hero/hench (until I get mindless bored and switch to something different) and now have 2 "sets" of hero builds that make pve fairly easy and HM much more doable, having fun with HM/Mapping and above all, playing with guildmates.
With the changes to RA/TA.. I'm considering giving it a try. Been a very long time since I've done it / considered it.
I agree, if GW is not fun, take a break or move on.
/Agree - I've come from Final Fantasy XI.... GW "grind" is nothing compared to 1-3 hours to form a party to try and get lucky and then you want to commit to 4-6 hour block pulling monster to the camp so after a few days you may get to the next level. If you die... you have to do again because you an de-level. Plus what you have to do to earn money for the million costing equipment.
Since I'm learning the "efficient" things such as Ruins Of Shala wurm farming for ss/lb points (that makes it bearable and profitable). Kuz FFF with hero/hench (until I get mindless bored and switch to something different) and now have 2 "sets" of hero builds that make pve fairly easy and HM much more doable, having fun with HM/Mapping and above all, playing with guildmates.
With the changes to RA/TA.. I'm considering giving it a try. Been a very long time since I've done it / considered it.
I agree, if GW is not fun, take a break or move on.
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Originally Posted by Nyree
Because GW is THE game for me. When i started playing, it was love at first sight.
I see a lot of people complaining about grind and other stuff, but the grind of GW is nothing compared to the other games i came from, NOTHING! Who played Lineage 2 or Ragnarok or even Mapple Story knows what i'm talking about, so, sometimes i can't really understand why people complain so much about grind... |
I play because yes, I still enjoy the game after 2 years. My guild and alliance themselves are worth playing - I'm having a great time with my friends. However, as I'm almost done pimpin' my main char weapon and armor wise, I've started to work on titles, as well as getting more armors and such for my other characters. I realized I was slow at it, but I can enjoy it longer x].
So, all the people who get annoyed with things should just keep quiet? Bugs, exploits, improperly placed mechanics, and potential improvements get over looked.
Lets not forget that people complain because they actually LIKE the game. When things are wrong they want them to be known. Made better. Quite honestly, I'd be more worried if nothing was ever said because that'd be the sign that Guild Wars was really having a problem.
Of course, there are some people who come on just for the sole purpose to bitch about this or that. Not actually caring if anything is done just as long as they can keep their mouths running.
Me, personally, if I'm not enjoying the game anymore I uninstall it and find something else to do. If I happen to get the urge to play again I will. I don't see the need to announce it in a thread on Guru.
Lets not forget that people complain because they actually LIKE the game. When things are wrong they want them to be known. Made better. Quite honestly, I'd be more worried if nothing was ever said because that'd be the sign that Guild Wars was really having a problem.
Of course, there are some people who come on just for the sole purpose to bitch about this or that. Not actually caring if anything is done just as long as they can keep their mouths running.
Me, personally, if I'm not enjoying the game anymore I uninstall it and find something else to do. If I happen to get the urge to play again I will. I don't see the need to announce it in a thread on Guru.
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Originally Posted by frodo7
..... All that I see on these forums when I come back for a peek are complaint threads. If you hate the game now or anet then just stop playing.
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and you forgeting that propblably 70% of GW players never heard about or dont track guru forum ...
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Well, in deed there is a little more grinding compared to the original concept. But in all it doesn't take too much effort to achive for example level 5 if you want to buy an armour of a certain faction. Doing all quests and clearing 3-5 maps as you are sightseeing should be enough. Many new PvE skills are already on level 1 an good alternative to the regular skills, if you compare some of the norn or dwarven skills e.g. with Galrath's slash.
Nevertheless I tried another MMORPG the last weeks, but returned soon to GW, because there you have to slay alone hour by hour weaker monsters, because it seems there doesn't exist any teamplay beyond looking for a group for automatically picking up the loot. In order to be somewhat competetive for PvP you have to do this several days or even weeks and you will be still dozens of levels behind top grinders which are already playing for a year or more. You can also only change once your skills and attributes. So if you want to try a new build, after the first change, you have to level up a new character.
Nevertheless I tried another MMORPG the last weeks, but returned soon to GW, because there you have to slay alone hour by hour weaker monsters, because it seems there doesn't exist any teamplay beyond looking for a group for automatically picking up the loot. In order to be somewhat competetive for PvP you have to do this several days or even weeks and you will be still dozens of levels behind top grinders which are already playing for a year or more. You can also only change once your skills and attributes. So if you want to try a new build, after the first change, you have to level up a new character.
