Slavers' Exile and Duncan the Black [MERGED]

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Very careful pulling

Stay back in the start, let the dwarfs pass you. Then you can pull the one dwarf group just right to you, and then it should be a cakewalk. Watchout for the SP touchers ofcourse

Soil down and kill them all if you aggro.

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What Zabe said. I do it with a H/H team and it's critical to let that first group run along and get the second one that's coming slower behind them. Frozen helps to keep them down and speed up the run. If you take too long with that group the first group will come back and then the wipe is certain.

After that I flag the "team" behind me and scout ahead, not too far mind you, for the pop ups. You don't want to pop up more than 6 touchers as it will make things harder. Also, I prefer not to fight touchers and dwarfs together..
With theses things in mind it should be a cakewalk all the way to Duncan.

Sent.-

Had an SV, a warder(Melee, Stability, Elements, Sandstorm), and two rits with spirit spamming skills. Have someone pull groups into the spirits, and beware of the Restless in there. SV typically works well against them. Target the Defenders first, followed by priests, summoners, warders, ect.

The only difficult thing are touchers (tanks/armor are useless there).

I hope that after completing the other parts and other summit dungeons, you'd know how to handle rezzing mobs.

1. Back up the moment you load. For cruelty's sake they made 2 patrols pass over the spot where you load.

2. Once one patrol moves on to the left, set your soil and send the tank to the one on the right. Kill it and continue to the right before the other patrol returns.

3. You have to get past the "doorway" down the hill to the right to be safe from the patrol. That means killing (or standing amidst) at least 1 set of ghosts.

If you've got a slow loader and draw an aggro right off the bat, you will die. You can fight, and maybe kill a dwarf or two, but there's so many you're just going to die. Once things start to go south, yor survivors need to run left and forward to lead the mobs away from the rez shrines. If you don't get them clear of the shrines, you're going to head straight to 60% DP in a hurry.

me and a friend did it with heroes by pulling (if you don't have a ranger-mentality, frozen soil may not occur to you either...it does help with the Stone Summit rez-fest). After you start and get some room, wait for the SS to get to their far reaches of their patrol and spawn the little N/A bastards. clear them first and then pull the SS. The funny thing is that Anet actually planned for some use of [wiki]"Can't Touch This!"[/wiki] with [wiki]Ulcerous Lungs[/wiki]. Does Anet still take that skill seriously (though I will admit to using it on Koss in the Wilds in HM)?

That's pretty much what we did for all the yard trash up to Duncan. When we got to him, we had my Gwen and Olias camp the little corner by the stairs and spam SV, Empathy and Backfire (and that corner's going to get nerfed soon making Duncan rediculous...still only 2500 faction for the dungeon book? 'F' the dungeon book)

Lots of good advise here, I'll add that bringing some consumables, and knowing when to use them is a good idea too.

Also make sure you have Spitefull Spirit or Empathy+Backfire as they are among the few skills that actually will hurt Duncan. Most all others just kill your party members.

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On nerfing the corner:

1. The corner is so incredibly obvious that, IMO, it had to be intentionally designed that way.
2. Even if it's not, given the amount of effort that a-net seems to be dedicating to GWEN, I wouldn't expect to see a nerf anytime soon.
3. If it gets nerfed, so what? The spirits can still be killed/swapped and a few extra wand hits aren't really going to matter to the prot-ed necro(s) doing the killing.

I'm stumped on slavers exile... its not so bad until you get to the dungeon for DUNCAN.... then WHAM finishing slavers exile seems as tho GW:en has handed us the impossible!!! Even after bringing 2 necro (1 SS and 1 SV), Mesmer (Empathy + Backfire and the ranger skill Frozen Soil), 2 monks both healing altho one carrying Protective Spirit, Jora and 2 real players. I'd love to see what kind of "Party and complete Builds" have actually worked here. None of the builds I have tried with my Derv and my friends Glyph of Renewal Fire Nuker have done enough damage to the Summits. Which we all know what happens next... our party is doomed because we now have more summits to deal with in addition to the last 2 or 3 left over from the first group that we weren't able to kill in time. This means death is imminent...

i think ur forgetting obsidian flesh tank...Jora wont cut it there.

Ok, the last dungeon where Duncan waits for you is like the easiest one of them all.
I used to duo run them with a friend, using 6 heros ofc, under 25 min :s.

So I have no idea why you are complaining that part is so hard.

Try going with a full player party of 8... trust me it makes a difference... I am not saying that makes it easy. No way. but it really does make for more options IMHO. especially with everyone getting PvE only skills to aid in the adventure. Pain Inverter FTW.

I do have to agree though the last part of the quest is the easiest. so ... IDK what to tell you. Just keep tweaking those builds and find one that works for ya.

I did the whole thing with H/H last night. There's hard bits, but I found it ok overall. About right for NM in an Elite Dungeon.

There is another post about completing Duncan' Dungeon just here.

General concensus seems to be "Careful Pulling = Win".

i was somewhat disappointed with how easily i was able to roll through it with 6 heroes, cant really say its hard, not with paragons anyway. ran 5 paras a necro and 2 rits

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Having H/H melee characters in the party poses an additional challenge when pulling. It's usually better to set them on defense and flag away when doing a delicate pull. I'm usually trying to find out just how far away monsters are willing to get pulled, even integral mobs can sometimes get broken when some of them are more persistent than the rest, and in any case when you are fighting at the edge of the 'comfortable zone' for the particular mob, they use most of the time running back and forth instead of mauling you

It's just careful pulling. Done right, it's the easiest of all the boss dungeons. And tanks are not a requierment either. Did it with guildie, he a monk, me a mesmer, and 6 heroes. No warriors, no minion masters.

In the start, let the first group pass. Then kill the 2nd. Should be easy enough. Frozen soil to speed things up. Then just sweep for Restless dead, take a group at the time. Duncan himself is a pushover.

Did it with a party of 3 players and heroes first. Later even with 2 human players only.

So please, be a bit careful with "near impossible" statements, it reminds me too much of the lamentations about Shards of Orr...

Hints:

1.) Frozen Soil. But take in mind, it is a double-edged sword

2.) Neutralize enemy melees with Wards, Reckless Haste and let your hero rangers throw dirt if you have any. Careful, they often try to waste it on spirits!

3.) Go for PRIEST/DEFENDER, then for WARDERS, then for SUMMONERS. I pick the Warders before the Summoners, as their Earth DoT AoEs require me to flag the heroes manually, they often take great damage in them.

4.) Skills/Classes you should bring: a.) SS Necro with Mark of Pain, Enfeebling Blood and Reckless Haste shines in this dungeon. MoP works especially well with Paragons and Rangers. Make sure they do physical damage. TBH, the whole dungeon is a SS Necro's wet dream, they clump together enough to take a lot of damage from the hexes. b.) Splinter/Barrage Rangers, I also prefer to bring a pet with low (6-7) beast mastery. They make great "frag bait", while their Rangers wreck the enemy with Splinter Weapon themselves. c.) Ideally a human channeling ritualist and d.) Blood Necro with Order of Pain, Spoil Victor + Pain Inverter. As you can see having two necros makes me lean towards a more physical and hex damage oriented team. Ideally I would like to have a Dervish doing holy damage to the enemy minions. Hint, Holy Spear works also wonders vs them. Some people recommend to bring corpse exploiting skills so that they can raise less, but it worked without that, too.

5.) Careful pulling as mentioned. Especially right at the start of the dungeon WAIT till the mobs separate before attacking!

6.) You can pass some of the groups without having to fight.

7.) Use the described trick with the necros hiding below the stairs outside of spirit range to kill Duncan.

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Did the whole Slavers' Exile in one sitting last weekend with some guildmates. I think our team build was something like this:

W/E - Earth tank
R/Rt - Splinter Barrager (Me)
+ Mo/Me - Dunkoro, pure healer w/ LoD
R/Rt - Splinter Barrager
E/Me - Air Spiker with Invoke Lightning
N/Me - Spiteful Spirit, Pain Inverter
+ E/Mo - Vekk, Dual Attunement fire nuker
+ Mo/Me - Dunkoro, pure healer w/ LoD (AI plays most Prot or hybrid builds too badly to bother with)

A bit generic, but we'd used similar teams for a long time so teamwork certainly wasn't a problem. The tank could easily hold the Summit group in place for a few seconds without being in any danger, which was quite enough for the Splinter Barragers and the eles to lay waste to most of them. Once the Summit numbers were too thinned down for Barrage to be effective the Rangers started to focus on interrupting to prevent any survivors from rezzing.

You could probably replace some of the players with heroes if you don't mind micromanaging their skill use and positioning. Oh, and the AI is absolutely retarded with weapon spells.

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