Can GW support 160-200 characters on screen anyways? xD
Also, with this would hero battles be possible without heroes (as in 4 humans per team)?
Announcing GWLP
McMullen
Jecht Scye
If you ever need a tester in the future, shoot me a pm.
Credentials(If needed): Information Systems Major(Junior Status), Grand Valley State University.
Credentials(If needed): Information Systems Major(Junior Status), Grand Valley State University.
Age
This looks interesting when will it launch?
holababe
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This looks interesting when will it launch?
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Quite some time I'd say.
Vann Borakul
This is very interesting. I have a couple questions.
Pretty soon, I will start vanquishing every area in the game. One thing I will be doing during this is trying to get any scenic shots that I like. One thing I have always hated about getting these screenshots is that I am limited to first person perspective and to areas only where I can stand. Would it be possible to attain a floating camera perspective of the landscape? If so, then there really is a god.
And what exactly would our options be right after starting this up? Meaning, where would we be, what form would we take, what can we do right then?
Pretty soon, I will start vanquishing every area in the game. One thing I will be doing during this is trying to get any scenic shots that I like. One thing I have always hated about getting these screenshots is that I am limited to first person perspective and to areas only where I can stand. Would it be possible to attain a floating camera perspective of the landscape? If so, then there really is a god.
And what exactly would our options be right after starting this up? Meaning, where would we be, what form would we take, what can we do right then?
RavynousHunter
Well... If its anything like RunUO, you can do anything from the get-go (if you start out as an admin, that is).
holababe
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This is very interesting. I have a couple questions.
Pretty soon, I will start vanquishing every area in the game. One thing I will be doing during this is trying to get any scenic shots that I like. One thing I have always hated about getting these screenshots is that I am limited to first person perspective and to areas only where I can stand. Would it be possible to attain a floating camera perspective of the landscape? If so, then there really is a god. |
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And what exactly would our options be right after starting this up? Meaning, where would we be, what form would we take, what can we do right then?
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Motoko Kusanagi War
So after reading all the legal talk and arguments and round and round chatting about modding stuff...
I am sort of confused on a few things...
1. This whole GWLP program, if I were to log in, am I logging into a private server that no one is connected to? Like am I just playing GW by myself? Or am I going to be able to play with my friends that I do on GW now? And what exactly am I logging into, am I logging into a different server of GW with all the updates? Or is it a server with the game from scratch?
2. I have all the campaigns, but If I had my choice, I would just play the very original prophecies unmodded... You said we are allowed to play the content we've purchased... but I could really care less about factions, NF, or GWEN. What is GWLP relation to this?
3. People have their own fantasies about what they'd like to do in GW, and that's all cool and respectable but this kind of ties in with my first pointer... this program will allow us to log in to GWLP and play exactly what?
I'm sorry for the fogginess of my questions or any statements, but this project has definately attracted my attention. More specifically for the reasons of:
There are a ton of players, whether playing GW now or playing GW when it first came out... would LOVE to play GW as it originally came out of the box, no updates or anything. Most likely if there was an entire server reset on everything (updates, ladder, titles) where everything was sent to scratch. I'm sure people dislike the idea of everything they've done being reset...which I understand so please don't respond to this with any flames regarding that. (I got r12 too so its not like i wouldn't be a little upset)
I'm just having a difficult time understanding the concept of the project. When it launches(if), will everyone have to start over (which is fine by me), and more of, is GWLP just being made so people can screw around with things? I'm just kinda confused and would gladly appreciate being enlightened.
I think the concept and idea is freaking awesome, good luck and get ready for more of my questions cause im sure ill have more!
<3~Lithium
I am sort of confused on a few things...
1. This whole GWLP program, if I were to log in, am I logging into a private server that no one is connected to? Like am I just playing GW by myself? Or am I going to be able to play with my friends that I do on GW now? And what exactly am I logging into, am I logging into a different server of GW with all the updates? Or is it a server with the game from scratch?
2. I have all the campaigns, but If I had my choice, I would just play the very original prophecies unmodded... You said we are allowed to play the content we've purchased... but I could really care less about factions, NF, or GWEN. What is GWLP relation to this?
3. People have their own fantasies about what they'd like to do in GW, and that's all cool and respectable but this kind of ties in with my first pointer... this program will allow us to log in to GWLP and play exactly what?
I'm sorry for the fogginess of my questions or any statements, but this project has definately attracted my attention. More specifically for the reasons of:
There are a ton of players, whether playing GW now or playing GW when it first came out... would LOVE to play GW as it originally came out of the box, no updates or anything. Most likely if there was an entire server reset on everything (updates, ladder, titles) where everything was sent to scratch. I'm sure people dislike the idea of everything they've done being reset...which I understand so please don't respond to this with any flames regarding that. (I got r12 too so its not like i wouldn't be a little upset)
I'm just having a difficult time understanding the concept of the project. When it launches(if), will everyone have to start over (which is fine by me), and more of, is GWLP just being made so people can screw around with things? I'm just kinda confused and would gladly appreciate being enlightened.
I think the concept and idea is freaking awesome, good luck and get ready for more of my questions cause im sure ill have more!
<3~Lithium
holababe
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So after reading all the legal talk and arguments and round and round chatting about modding stuff...
I am sort of confused on a few things... 1. This whole GWLP program, if I were to log in, am I logging into a private server that no one is connected to? Like am I just playing GW by myself? Or am I going to be able to play with my friends that I do on GW now? And what exactly am I logging into, am I logging into a different server of GW with all the updates? Or is it a server with the game from scratch? |
You are connecting to the computer that is running the server package and you will need to start a new character. There is no link between ANet and GWLP.
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2. I have all the campaigns, but If I had my choice, I would just play the very original prophecies unmodded... You said we are allowed to play the content we've purchased... but I could really care less about factions, NF, or GWEN. What is GWLP relation to this?
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The server admin will essentially be God, and I suppose it could be possible for them to only activate Prophecies skills. Ask the devs if they're coding a feature like this.
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3. People have their own fantasies about what they'd like to do in GW, and that's all cool and respectable but this kind of ties in with my first pointer... this program will allow us to log in to GWLP and play exactly what?
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Imagine it like this: ANet could maintain the game the way they are now, or they could suddenly choose to change everything and have talking lampposts in LA and KC
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I'm just having a difficult time understanding the concept of the project. When it launches(if), will everyone have to start over (which is fine by me), and more of, is GWLP just being made so people can screw around with things? I'm just kinda confused and would gladly appreciate being enlightened.
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It's first and foremost a server emulation tool. People may be able to screw around with the scripts if the devs make it open-source.
Motoko Kusanagi War
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If you log into a GWLP server it's a 'private' server in the sense that it's not run by ANet. However, there should be others online, just not as many as on the regular servers.
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You are connecting to the computer that is running the server package and you will need to start a new character. There is no link between ANet and GWLP.
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Server admins choice AFAIK.
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Imagine it like this: ANet could maintain the game the way they are now, or they could suddenly choose to change everything and have talking lampposts in LA and KC
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There will be no carry-over from what you already have.
It's first and foremost a server emulation tool. People may be able to screw around with the scripts if the devs make it open-source. |
So you have a brand new server for players to play on, restart from absolutely NOTHING, and play the game originally intended without the patches that corrected player abuses... if I'm not mistaken.
But this leads to my other question with my statement of pvp resets. Will this new GWLP server allow for gvg, ha, ra, and ta original pvp? Some people like proph + factions... But I LOVE the idea of raw gameplay of the original guildwars... I feel the game developed too fast for any of us to develope any decent meta in any of those branches of gameplay.
Your fast response made me happy ^_^
holababe
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So if this is up to the server admins, is there the possiblity with this game play that I log into GWLP where the only thing playable is the raw original game before it became modded?
But this leads to my other question with my statement of pvp resets. Will this new GWLP server allow for gvg, ha, ra, and ta original pvp? Some people like proph + factions... But I LOVE the idea of raw gameplay of the original guildwars... I feel the game developed too fast for any of us to develope any decent meta in any of those branches of gameplay. |
Based on my knowledge of server emulation (not GWLP, WoWEmu, Ascent/Antrix and L2) if the server admin has time and knowhow then he/she can do anything.
However, based on some pictures that I'm not supposed to have seen, I think that the devs are attempting to make GWLP as user-friendly as possible. So it is possible that servers for Prophecies PvP only may exist.
Motoko Kusanagi War
Ok, thx, <3 u! Are these forums you view available for me to see or no?
And its said that testing is still in Alpha, and no release soon...
But no release soon isn't satisfactory, I was wonderin if there was an estimated time of release? I think beta for GW2 is in 2009 if im not mistaken, would this project be released at a decent amount of time before GW2?
And its said that testing is still in Alpha, and no release soon...
But no release soon isn't satisfactory, I was wonderin if there was an estimated time of release? I think beta for GW2 is in 2009 if im not mistaken, would this project be released at a decent amount of time before GW2?
l3j
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1. This whole GWLP program, if I were to log in, am I logging into a private server that no one is connected to? Like am I just playing GW by myself? Or am I going to be able to play with my friends that I do on GW now? And what exactly am I logging into, am I logging into a different server of GW with all the updates? Or is it a server with the game from scratch?
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Originally Posted by Motoko Kusanagi War
2. I have all the campaigns, but If I had my choice, I would just play the very original prophecies unmodded... You said we are allowed to play the content we've purchased... but I could really care less about factions, NF, or GWEN. What is GWLP relation to this?
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Originally Posted by Motoko Kusanagi War
3. People have their own fantasies about what they'd like to do in GW, and that's all cool and respectable but this kind of ties in with my first pointer... this program will allow us to log in to GWLP and play exactly what?
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Originally Posted by Motoko Kusanagi War
I'm just having a difficult time understanding the concept of the project. When it launches(if), will everyone have to start over (which is fine by me), and more of, is GWLP just being made so people can screw around with things? I'm just kinda confused and would gladly appreciate being enlightened.
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Yes they can screw around with things but more importantly they can create content. Such as quests, missions, etc. Similar to the reason people make modifications for half-life and other games.
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There will be no carry-over from what you already have.
It's first and foremost a server emulation tool. People may be able to screw around with the scripts if the devs make it open-source. |
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So if this is up to the server admins, is there the possiblity with this game play that I log into GWLP where the only thing playable is the raw original game before it became modded?
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Will this new GWLP server allow for gvg, ha, ra, and ta original pvp?
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But no release soon isn't satisfactory, I was wonderin if there was an estimated time of release?
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Exhonour
sry i cant support it, things like this ruin the game
one person makes a breakthrough, others work secretly, soon private servers are available, this will cause trouble for gw
ur doign exacly what everyone else is doing, wow, lineage, tibia, etc.
2 thumbs down
one person makes a breakthrough, others work secretly, soon private servers are available, this will cause trouble for gw
ur doign exacly what everyone else is doing, wow, lineage, tibia, etc.
2 thumbs down
Abedeus
I would recommend you to NOT use ,,it's ready when it's ready'' term. GWLP will be forgotten this way just like Duke Nukem Forever was forgotten. I mean, seriously, who still remembers it?
Exhonour - this is not private server. You still need original GW account to play GWLP.
Exhonour - this is not private server. You still need original GW account to play GWLP.
helloworld
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Exhonour - this is not private server. You still need original GW account to play GWLP.
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to play to wow private servers you need the original Wow .....the GWLP is not the property of Anet so it is a private server
Abedeus
Original WoW =/= Full paid WoW Account. Private server means you didn't have to pay anything to play the game (excluding internet connection costs). Here you HAD TO pay at least 40$ (or something like that - dunno how much it's in other countries) to play. Get it?
Jecht Scye
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I would recommend you to NOT use ,,it's ready when it's ready'' term. GWLP will be forgotten this way just like Duke Nukem Forever was forgotten. I mean, seriously, who still remembers it?
Exhonour - this is not private server. You still need original GW account to play GWLP. |
holababe
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Agree.
It will be ready when it's ready. That's good enough for me, since I idle in their IRC channel occasionally to get an idea of how it's progressing.
Agree.
It will be ready when it's ready. That's good enough for me, since I idle in their IRC channel occasionally to get an idea of how it's progressing.
wu is me
Abedeus
This was posted 12.10.07. Month ago, so I think that not.
peterchen620
Although this project sounds extremely promising to most players such as I, I am a bit skeptical on hackers cracking the server files and releasing a 'cracked' version of GWLP allowing instant access to the program itself without having to own a GW account with either 1 or all campaigns/expansion unlocked. How will you be able to resolve this kind of problem? It is bound to happen, and it won't be good...
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I am in no way against this idea. I am just expressing my views basing on the facts on what happened to other emulation softwares.
*EDIT*
I am in no way against this idea. I am just expressing my views basing on the facts on what happened to other emulation softwares.
holababe
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Although this project sounds extremely promising to most players such as I, I am a bit skeptical on hackers cracking the server files and releasing a 'cracked' version of GWLP allowing instant access to the program itself without having to own a GW account with either 1 or all campaigns/expansion unlocked. How will you be able to resolve this kind of problem? It is bound to happen, and it won't be good...
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Much like the current system.
The program they've developed to ensure this isn't foolproof or unbreakable, but then again nothing is:
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That said, we plan to implement an authorization system that allows players access to only the content they have purchased. The authorization system will run in the background when you log into your official account, it will monitor incoming packets and read what you have access too on your account. It then encrypts this information and sends it to the server you wish to play on, the server immediately stores it in the database and allows you to use only the content that you own. The data that is gathered for authorizing a player can in no way be used to find that person's official account.
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Whirlwind
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sry i cant support it, things like this ruin the game
one person makes a breakthrough, others work secretly, soon private servers are available, this will cause trouble for gw ur doign exacly what everyone else is doing, wow, lineage, tibia, etc. 2 thumbs down |
peterchen620
Sounds interesting... It can certainly stop the so called 'piracy' on GW, but isn't this kind of system easily exploitable? For example... I log into my account on my laptop, and now I am authorized to use the contents I own on this laptop. Now I repeat the same steps on other computers... If you must be online to do this step everytime you log into GWLP, then it isn't really GWLP since it is abbreviated as Guild Wars Lan Project.
Another thing is... how the information is stored in the database. If somebody who actually owns an account, and 'authorises' his/her contents on his/her GWLP client and happens to upload it on to the internet to 'share' to other users (piracy), wouldn't it also work?
Everything is just pure speculations, and I am really hoping the authorization system works like a charm.
Another thing is... how the information is stored in the database. If somebody who actually owns an account, and 'authorises' his/her contents on his/her GWLP client and happens to upload it on to the internet to 'share' to other users (piracy), wouldn't it also work?
Everything is just pure speculations, and I am really hoping the authorization system works like a charm.
holababe
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Isn't this kind of system easily exploitable? For example... I log into my account on my laptop, and now I am authorized to use the contents I own on this laptop. Now I repeat the same steps on other computers... If you must be online to do this step everytime you log into GWLP, then it isn't really GWLP since it is abbreviated as Guild Wars Lan Project.
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Your point about it being a Lan Project seems to be semantics. Log onto IRC and ask about the naming, since they're the only ones who know.
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Another thing is... how the information is stored in the database. If somebody who actually owns an account, and 'authorises' his/her contents on his/her GWLP client and happens to upload it on to the internet to 'share' to other users (piracy), wouldn't it also work?
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Everything is just pure speculations, and I am really hoping the authorization system works like a charm.
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Obsoleet
Yay! This is like Garry'sMod!
These mods are always fun!
These mods are always fun!
TSS
Have fun in jail.
holababe
Nice to see you're capable of intelligent and mature conversation. If you have a problem with the project then express it.
Corcis
I'd be really curious to see the code...but then again, I am, at this point, only an aspiring coder. Sounds like a great project. Best of luck to you guys.
holababe
Shadowfrost
So does this mean we have access to the GWLP servers?
If so, care to explain what we need to do because i can't seem to find anything on the website.
If so, care to explain what we need to do because i can't seem to find anything on the website.
holababe
No, it means that you have access to the server code so that you can help out with coding if you want/can.
I'm pretty sure that nobody is running a server ATM but check out their IRC channel for more.
irc.rizon.net #gwlp
I'm pretty sure that nobody is running a server ATM but check out their IRC channel for more.
irc.rizon.net #gwlp
xhappy feetx
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No, it means that you have access to the server code so that you can help out with coding if you want/can.
I'm pretty sure that nobody is running a server ATM but check out their IRC channel for more. irc.rizon.net #gwlp |
l3j
We won't be running a test server seeing as our host has mysteriously disappeared. However, if you want to download the all the source code for the project just point TortoiseSVN here https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/gwlp/ or if you want to view it online https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/gwlp/ But do note that this source code won't remain the main working copy as there is a rewrite from scratch in progress.
Crazythumb
Well, its working....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-hiYZebpwk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-hiYZebpwk
holababe
Yeah that's awesome.
If anybody does want to host a server, I'll donate webspace (subdomain of vital-games.com) for a forum
If anybody does want to host a server, I'll donate webspace (subdomain of vital-games.com) for a forum
Crazythumb
uhm, at this time it's not possible to creat a offical server. Maybe in the next two weeks....
ATM its just possible to play ALONE on you own virtual server. As you can see in the vid, many things are disabled atm (NPCS,Warps). I scripted some emotes in c++ (Im not realy good,im just 14), but thats it.
Im locking forward to the next two weeks...
ATM its just possible to play ALONE on you own virtual server. As you can see in the vid, many things are disabled atm (NPCS,Warps). I scripted some emotes in c++ (Im not realy good,im just 14), but thats it.
Im locking forward to the next two weeks...
holababe
hmmkk.
I haven't really been keeping track of developments recently. Lot of other stuff going on.
I haven't really been keeping track of developments recently. Lot of other stuff going on.
eyoung429
Incredible idea!!! I would like to donate a "testbed" if I may.
Mods may contact me via pm or email as I will be going through the sc tonight.
Mods may contact me via pm or email as I will be going through the sc tonight.