Are a large number of players retiring?

prolly just a life and death cycle, u gotta make new friends ^^. lol i bought factions 6 months ago and prop/night 2 months later, so have some of my friends, and others are expressing interest.

Anyway, if you make a note of how many newbs/ complaints about newbs you see out there, you'll prolly be very re-assured that the there is influx of population

I'm curious where and how you have got this huge impression that everyone is leaving the game?

Have people walked up to you and personally said "im leaving" and youve never seen them again! Are you just counting the number of disgruntled players in this website! Are you going by guild numbers falling?

I've also heard lots of people being unsatisfied with the game now, and threaten to leave. Im sure alot do, but who cares!

Let them leave, because its really not having any huge impact on the game as new players are starting all the time.

I really dont like these "GWs is dieing" threads, because people are allowed to leave games if they want to. Im sure you have console games or other PC games that you play for about 2 weeks and then never touch again.

I know I do, yet ive continued to play this game for 2 years + now. I say that speaks loads for the game.

Yes people are leaving, but they are also starting too.

There's a big influx of newbs, but all the ones i've talked to and helped I haven't seen on for days-weeks now.

My guild is actually more active and gotten more members this past 2 weeks than in the past 6 months....

Me, im playing Metroid prime o.o

Because when you leave those games, you aren't really affecting anyone. But in Guild Wars, the less people there are, the less opprutunity there is to find people to play with, group with, etc.

Just wait untill you see al the crammed districts in LA when Mad King Thorn arrives ^^

People tend to find a guild/alliance they enjoy and that becomes the Guild Wars "world" to them. What I mean by that is they use their guild rosters and alliance activity as a barometer of how the game is living or dying. Once some people find that shell of friends, they tend to rarely stray from it.

Just look around. There are tons of people around. The game is fine.

i dont find the game dying at all, my guild, which has had a steady base of 35 players for over 2 yrs, still has a steady base of 35 players, we are PVE only guild and our members just play the game. so most of our members have celebrated over 1 year of memebership and still remain relatively active. i dont bother with PUGS anymore, unless a guildie/alliance member needs help. our alliance has 9 guilds in it and very active, which is nice. so as far as guild wars dying, i think it its more a "point of view" type thing. some palces are more populated some are not, just my 2 cents.

people still pug? and all this time i thought that guildwars was a single player game. go figure

Can't say I'm sad to see em go.

Since the release of Halo 3 my lag situation has significantly improved.

I hear some much squawking about how the pug groups are harder to find. Well they got hard to find when Factions was about 3 months old. Finding a good PUG was always hit and miss to start with.

The game is called Guild Wars not PUG Wars for a reason. Guilds have been my best source of socialization in this game. People can grumble about heroes and the lack of PUG groups all they want but I would say the majority of GW players love Heroes and find them to be a very enjoyable part of the game.

So what if the community is dwindling. Just means the servers will not be working their guts out and the lag will improve for those of us that enjoy the game for what it is and not what we think it should be.

GW 2 is on its way and GW has been out for 2 years now. I don't think it will fade away to nothing, but it has reached its high water mark. It is a great game and I will be playing it for a long time to come. I'll switch to GW2 or stop playing again like I did when I finally tired of Diablo II.

Empires rise and fall, I had hoped that Anet would craft GW into an epic game with over 7 chapters a few expansions and what not but they have decided that it is time to move on and revamp the world of GW. It is the way of things in the game world. Nothing last forever.

QFT. Everyone loves the Halloween event.

I'm semi-retired now, having played this game since the E3 for Everyone right through the betas and through to EotN. That's more than 3 years in one game... it's inevitable that I'd eventually get tired of it. That's quite a long time to be playing a game. I still pop in game a few times a week to check my friends list, but it seems I'm not the only one who has stopped playing. I'll likely keep playing every now and again, but I am actively looking for another game to play. I need a change.

There is nothing else new coming out in the forseeable future that advances the genre in any way, GW2 is our last best hope. WAR and AoC will be out next year, but they are only incremental improvements over typical mmos, and WoW's Wrath of the Lich King expansion, while I'm sure will be fun for a little while, is also an incremental improvement - they are not redesigning the entire game.

GW2 or bust.

Yes. such stuff propably will bring a LOT people back, since it is fun, and is rare enough so that people dont get tired of it, for a while. But then they would go back to limbo.

Judging from my FL activity and Guild activity, most of veterans are out. From guild of 30 die-hard people (those were times when we were able to sync 8+8 man missions with less than hour of preparations...) it went to guild of 3 while others have month+ absence.

I used to open FL and have 20-30 depenable people online, now its 2-3.

Unlike other "gw is dyeingozoomg", this is kinda more serious as its not rant about latest nerf in disguise....

I play when I have goals... and I keep finding stuff as soon as I say "oh man I'm bored with this game, what could I do...". I've invested 5k+ hours into this, so to me, there's no way I'm dropping it. I have friends - that is more than enough to keep me into it. I've been working to get armors for my characters for a year, so I've got pretty much what I -wanted-.

I like stuff and I have the possibility to get it, so I'm eventually going to get new goals. Getting UAX (something I should have done a LONG time ago), getting armors I like and didn't bother getting yet, start to PvP, high-end weapons, working toward titles on my main char...

So I say that I'm bored with GW, but tomorrow I'll be farming or working on titles... because I have the possibility.

A lot of us came to this game specifically because it has a reasonable level of respect and support for solo players while still allowing multiplay when the mood strikes or friends are around. No forced grouping (except in elite areas, which needs to be fixed) is one of the greatest strengths of the game model.

As to the original question (grammatically mangled as it is), anyone's going to get tired of a game after playing it for a few thousand hours, so it's inevitable that a lot of players that have been around for a long time are going to be leaving. Fortunately there's still a steady influx of new players, so it doesn't really matter that much.

I hate questing, so I usually do it with heroes/henchies so I can be done with it ASAP. When I was playing Prophecies I was the type to PUG everything, and I didn't care about effectiveness. It might have taken me 10 tries, but I'd do the quest.

The problem comes when you make friends that are at your level, or when you're being taught by other people. All of a sudden, you start to realize that you can be good. And all of a sudden, a lot of people in this game are ineffective. You also notice that people are totally immature, and you lose interest with PUGs because you'll KNOW what happens - your tank will rush to the next mob and blame the monk, who was already low on energy because he had to heal the ele who was tanking because the tank went AFK without warning.

What scares me is that new people, who would be in for learning the game mechanics, are facing this; an immature community who will call them "noobs" for being totally new at the game and necessitating help to learn playing.

QFT

It happens to most of the players. Then is time for them to either:
1) Find good guild/alliance, and continue to enjoy the game while playing in good, organized groups with players who know what to do, both PvE and PvP, and more importantly, have fun while doing it.

or...

2) Play some more with H&H and get bored with it, then come here on Guru to make thread how GW is dying, and how everyone needs to know that you are quiting.

Well, I just ran a friends-and-family guild devoted to buddy gaming. We had about twenty members at our height; it's down to ONE now.

Yup, just me.

Of the five people in this household who played, I am the only one remaining.

My oldest daughter left because she was tired of seeing some builds nerfed and others not. She might come back if full hero parties are implemented and the armor-stacking nerf is fixed.

My middle and youngest daughters' social circles moved to WoW. They likely won't return.

My wife moved to LotRO and WoW for several reasons. She is the ultimate casual gamer, and was very angry when one of her non-farming builds was severely nerfed. Plus, she feels that WoW has a better sense of humor and more socialization.

We had five copies of every chapter, but bought only ONE copy of GW:EN, for me, so I could see how the storyline wrapped up. Right now, there is almost no interest in GW2, mostly due to unhappiness with ANet's current "design" choices.

Note that GW was an obsession in this household until last December.

I play sporadically, and watch the forums to see where GW is going. With over 2500 hours invested, I'm hoping that ANet will start concerning itself with serious casual gamers, and stop catering to farmers and hard core players. But I doubt that will happen.

Unless something major occurs, I will be gone once the Bonus Missions are released in November. At that point, I'll only be playing WoW (in part because that's where *my* friends and family went) and LotRO.

I *might* stay interested in full hero parties are implemented, and Hard Mode for GW:EN is something more interesting than "faster monsters."

I wanna join your family