Bonus Mission Pack Promotion = unfair treatment

what is the 1mill upgrade? I don't see anything but the GOTY for Prophecies upgrade and additional character slots.

It is just NCsoft Loss as well as Anets.What are retail stores suppose to do to compete with NCSoft online store?I wouldnt bother carrying their products if they were competing with me.Those who supported the retail end of it should not be discarded.We who bought are games had to pay tax as well don't forget that.

I understand areanet and plaync wants too earn some money through the online shop, i am also willing too buy some stuff out off it. But make it impossilbe to do that for me is not smart. In the netherlands not many people have credit cards and there are no new options yet. So i hope there are comming some new payment methodes before the mission pack ends becuase i would love too have that pack.

quit ur [email protected] ... anyone who knew bout the online deal knew they had ot spend the 30 to get it. for most that just meant one simple purchase [wait for gwen] this is their way to be able to make the money theirselves and also open up their ingame store to more possibilites and ideas , maybe this was a test run to see how things would come out [didnt go over well so NO MORE BMPs plannd] .. admittingly to have to spend 30 to get it though was rediculous cos from the sound of it i shoulda been able to get the pack for 10-15 us dollas..[if that] but all and all its fair.. if ur too young and couldnt have ur parent or guardian spend the money online thas not our fault if u didnt have a cc , prepaid, or a debit with a cc logo on it again not our fault... most ppl in todays age have one or the other or ways ot obtain it...im sick of seein posts that say this wasnt fair ..the only ones i think this isnt fair for are ppl who absolutely cannot get any of the options say in other countries maybe... but there is a real famous qoute to fit this .....


"LIFE ISNT FAIR" so get over it Deal with it and QUIT UR [email protected]

well because the rest of us choose to maintain our integrity rather than sell out and 'go plastic' doesnt mean you get to lord it over us.

i have all 3 campaigns and gwen, yet i chose to buy it over the counter and get packaging, manuals etc intstead of a code. does this mean Anet get to take advantage of me?

Life my not be fair, but its up to us too change it

Y'know ... I grow tired of the infighting, caused by those who hold themselves the illusion of being part of Arenanet. There's absolutely no good reason to backstab your fellow consumer and absolutely nothing chivalrous, intelligent or productive about it.

Yes, the Bonus Mission Pack Promotion is unfair, because Arenanet came back from the promise to not make content inaccessible for retail-buyers.
And no, outside anglo-saxon countries, getting the right means to pay in the online store requires to jump through alot of hoops, more hassle than any game is worth; hardly as consumer-friendly as arenanet promised their revenue model to be.

And, yes, the big protest was months ago. If the people at Arenanet aren't aware of the grudge that runs through the communities, they must be far too busy counting their profits.

There is no reason that the bonus content shouldn't be available from the online store. What DOES need to happen is other payment options for people who don't have or are unable to use their Credit Cards in the online store.

That is the one and only unfair downfall to this whole promotion.

that is a very limited view sorry you dont understand some of us like the REAL BOX CD MANUAL ETC...

Would love if they did what the OP posted he is in the same boat as me. I bought them from the store for the box collectors edition for all 3 I have 10 char slots and have no use for the 2 extra they are just PVP slots. I would love the mission pack but what is the point in buying 3 more char slots that will just collect dust?
sorry Anet for likeing your game so much that just downloading it to my PC dosent cut it I wanted the Box and its contents for the Maps, Pins, standups etc.... Got a really cool GW tribute on my wall and sourrounding my computer desk makes the GW experience better.

My money's on this (literally)...

NCSoft Read This

Please offer a NCSoft Card that can be bought at retail stores and used online.

Thanks!

Oh, I could be completely found for that.
However, there is allready a NCSoft game time card (which can be used to purchase items in Archlord), but it can't be used for Guild Wars. Expanding the use of the existing cards to including GW should be quite cost-efficient.

Actually ... why haven't Arenanet and NCSoft coopted for that? (Please answer that, Arenanet.)

[QUOTE=IslandHermet] sorry you dont understand some of us like the REAL BOX CD MANUAL ETC...QUOTE]


And some of us like to take advantage of online promotions. We all make choices as consumers. You choose to have a box and manual. I choose to have the BMP.

Yeah I like boxes too. It leaves good memories.

It's a REWARD for using the online store. They have to prove to the head honcho's that the thing is doing what it was meant to do, which is sell products. Go get a VISA gift card for crying out loud.

KANE

Maybe you should have done some qadvance thinking and bought EotN through the store then???
Iy was YOUR choice to buy it elsewhere and possibly get it cheaper/free tshirt or the box whatever, but it was indeed your choice not to buy iut through the store and therefore I dont see you have any basis to complain that you cant get the bonus from anet.

This was for them to cut out the middle man and make more profit from it so it was a reward or incentive... the choice was yours

Lucky you, you made a consumer choice - so please dont complain that you cant have extra whipped cream ANd 2 cherries :P

If you read the rest of that post you would of seen that I did not have a choice as EoTN was bought for me as a gift before I had a chance to buy it myself. And as I stated, I WOULD of probably bought it from the online store just to get the BMP even though I would rather have the CDs for EoTN. But I shouldn't have to say to my friend "take your [email protected] gift back cuz if I install it you will be screwing me out of the BMP so screw you for being a good friend and doing something nice for me!!!!!" Is that what you are saying I should of done? If so I would hate to call myself your friend lol.

Oh, and nice double posting ...

well, things don't always work out the way you want. Why should anet change the terms of a promotion just because your friend bought you a copy of eye of the north?

What I find disappointing is that it is only availible online. This is the reason I don't even consider playing other MMORPGs. I have a credit card I suppose I could use for this, but for various reasons I really don't want to use it to buy anything online, and certainly not a game.

Put it online and charge $9.99 for it. Put it on a shelf, and I'd be willing to actually buy it, and pay more for it simply so that I don't have to purchase it online.

One problem I see, however, is that this shows a new business model for Anet. Before, you purchased a new campaign every 6-8 months for $40.00, and there was no monthly fee. Anything that happened in the game was free, including relatively large additions to the game like Sorrows furnace.

Now, you're still purchase a new campaign every 6-8 months, but there are no major updates. If you want new, relatively large updates, you have to buy them from the online store. So, while there isn't an actual monthly fee per-say, you're still paying a fee on a monthly basis so that you can have access to additional content. And, on top of that, they're only availible to buy online. So people like me and others who have posted in this topic will not buy them, no matter how much we want to.

I do understand that Arenanet needs to make money. I'm disappointed that I can't play these additional missions, but I made peace with the idea a while ago that some people in the game will have items and access that I don't. I just wish there was some consideration for those of us who don't do the E-commerce thing.

i too had to make that decision and believe me it was hard but days before gwen was released i chose the online store instead of the retail store so that i could GET THE BMP. The questions that made me debate im sure was on alot of ppls minds.. ones like who else will have it , will i be H/H this bmp, will it be fun for me if i have it but most of my friends dont etc ...but in the end i as a consumer made a choice and so did u .. ITs like goin to Toys R Us during christmas season and seeing that new console for half the price but u didnt get it when the promotion was there... go there the day after the sale and go but it was on sale yesterday.. too bad u missed ur chance ...so again i say to the whiners on this subject Quit ur [email protected]

Now for those interested this isnt just Anet makin the move to try to sell more online and promote online infact Most Businesses now try everything they can to get u to purchase more online by adding incentives to u doin so. Perfect example Best Buy, AT&T, Circuit City, Game Stop, babbages, i dont need to go on i think ur gettin the idea. For those who dont know why simple explanation ONLINE SHOPPIN IS BEING CONSIDERED A POSSIBLE POWER WAVE for the future[last most influental power waves were teh automobile , electricity , and phones,] .. ik this bc im a business owner myself and the idea is we want more ppl to shop online makes sales and distribution easier...along with a host of other things .. for instance in mine if u shop online and spend more than a set amount i give gift cards in xx amount of value for spending those set amounts [ie: 50.00 gets u $10, 100 gets u $20 ] however i do not offer the same for the direct retail side of my sales [ will in other promotionals ] but its to get ppl to buy from me online cuts off my consignments and having to keep inventory stockd on shelves. I get ppl all the time that spend a lil less than the amount and will CS me askin if they are eligible for the gift card ... replies are very business like but in the end statin that theres a set amount that needed to be bought to honor the promotion... ive had ppl ask on direct retail side who have seen the site ask if i honor it the same way if they dont buy online, again my answer professional but NO i dont ... they either choose to buy still from direct retail or go to my site and get the promotional deal.

So with that said i hope ive enlightend some, and loved how u replied back to my reply but im gonna leave this reply the same way i left the last one so u can do it again if ud like
Life isnt fair so QUIT UR [email protected]

They really needed to make more things available in the online store from the day the bonus mission pack was announced. It gives very meagre offerings for an online store.

Yes, if there was actually something I wanted or need to buy to equal the $29 then I wouldn't have a problem with it. It's just unfair to have to buy things you don't want or need to get it.

....THIS IS A PROMOTION FOR THE ONLINE STORE QUIT WHINING


ok, lets have a promotion for the online store that dosent effect the online store....GREAT IDEA

Only if your over 16 and I have never heard of a pre-pid credit card and I wouldnt trust to get one. Also alot of parents dont want their children having debit cards because it can lead to over-spending and a dependancy on paying with cards.

I try to avoid using my debit card as much as possible because you run your bank credit down very fast without realising. Giving that power to a teenager isnt a good idea because they end up spending pennies on sweets and then more and more.

Its also alot more dangerious if its stolen and we all know teenagers arent excatly carefull with their belongings!

Credit cards are never a good idea either, even if it has "pre-paid infront of it". I wouldnt trust the pre-paid side because all credit cards are bad.

Forcing people to spend online and to use either a credit card or a debit card is not good. People shouldnt have to run out and get a debit card or pre-pay credit card to get just one item.

There should always be an option to buy products both online and instore.

Its not just a case of saying "oh go get yourself a debt card" or "get your mother to buy it". Not all parents are going to want to pay for an item online themselves for their child. It doesnt exactly build a huge respect for money if your parents buy everything for you.

This should be sold instore inside GWEN eventally as an extra or sold seperately in store or/and sold online for a small price like £5-£10.

Its also all well and good saying "this is an online offer, stop winging". But that then means some players have access to LURE and new weapons that others dont. I thought Anet and GWs was always about making everything easily accessed to all without any unfairness.

If this is only made available online, buy spending a certain amount during a set date, then your alienating alot of loyal customers and giving access to new content and LURE to some and not others.

Either everything should be only sold in the online store or everything should be available instore AND the online store. Not some here and some there!

And yes selling items in highstreet stores looses them money and selling online doesnt. But thats the what its like in business and you shouldnt alienate a select few of your customers just to make a bit more cash! That really doesnt show a complete lack of concideration for their customers and those who cant or dont like to purchase online for what ever reason.

If they sold them in the stores, they have the potential to sell more and make up for the loss!

While I agree with the majority of your points, I would like to say that pre-paid credit cards are very safe - what's bad about a card with $50 on it that can't be recharged? They're very useful for people who don't want a credit card or paypal account, but would like to buy things online.

here is a very simple question.
Do you want the bonus mission pack? the answer to that is obviously (as proved by the existence of this thread) "yes!"
so THAT is what you're paying for, not the stuff you buy for it, you're paying for the BMP is that is what you want.


I really can not see how this is unfair. Anet is giving everybody an equal chance to get this, if you don't have a credit card, and you can't borrow one for 2 minutes from somebody you know, that really is not Anet's fault. everybody has an equal chance to get this if they want it, the way i see it.

Its the same with the box if you buy the game in a retail store, those who played online don't get the collector edition minipets, and whatever else comes with it.
or the minipets awarded for purchasing gaming magazines. those are unfair if anything, since most of them are limited to 1 or a few countries, and aren't available in all the places GW is available.
Don't take this as a complaint, i don't have access to any of those magazines, and i really don't care for the minipets, i'm just trying to put things into perspective. noone is being treated unfairly in the online store.

[QUOTE]this will not happen as that would not only blow the purpose of the promotion it would make the people who have put their money on the line to get it say i will never use a store promotion again as i can wait a bit and get it for peanuts later.

GW2 is going to have a full online store with micro payments all over..................hair style 2 dollars for example.

get used to the online store as in GW2 it will be used to generate cash flow.

that is why NCsoft / Anet will not back down on this one as it will be used to establish a principal that a store promotion has given terms which will not change for the people that go they will cave in and i will get it later cheap.

How would be selling it as a stand alone update for about £5-£8 be backing down?

Just buy GW:EN. If you bought it in a store, then it's your own fault. Debit cards work too, and if you don't have that, you are probably too young to be playing GW anyway.

EDIT: If they do end up offering it in the in-game store, I'd very much like a GW:EN Box sent to me with the extra funds that they made from me buying the expansion in the in-game store. Its the only reason I used the store instead of getting a box to put on my shelf, and if they are gonna pull their "spend x money," offer and make the BMP also purchasable from the store, then I want my box.

i don't really think it's unfair, i agree with others that it's a reward

and for the other people: You don't haveto have a credit card, you can use a debit card instead

Collectors editions have never been available at the in-game store and ive not seen complaints about that.

Lol whinning about this is like whinning to your grocery store manager that you bought 3 watermelons previously before they had the sale on watermelons present and it was a buy 3 get one free sale. You don't get to use what you paid for previously for sales people. Get over it. Spend your $30 and you get the bonus mission pak. Not fair what a laugh. It's as fair as any business practice marketing if you were foolish enough to put all your eggs in one basket then you deserve what you DON'T get.

I'm sorry, I do not have a credit card either but I figured out how to get the promotion anyway. I went to King Soopers (our local grocery store) and bought a gift card and then used that gift card to purchase the Expansion pack online, that way I qualified for the set AND did not need to use an independent credit card. If you want to, you still have time.

You can get the collectors edition content as a stand alone bonus pack from the online store, thats why.

its called an online currency calculator, im not shore what ur trying to prove comparing U.S dollars to AUS dollars, but ask anyone in australia the POUND is worth more(alot more) then the australian dollar!


oh yeah if A-Net has any curtosy for there consumers, they would release the Mission Bonus Pack in stores, with a price tag(to late to offer the spend so much crap),,,,,just checked pre-paid credit cards and i have to pay an editional $10 for the card itself, its like WTF

Uh, where in the store? I've only ever seen the Gold/Game of the year edition of prophecies. I've never seen a bonus/upgrade for the special edition of factions or NF in the store. D:

If you have no problem with the online store (beyond your complaints about PvP unlock packs) then you have already conceded that Anet has every right to use it how they see fit. Anet "gave" the community PvP unlocks...if you're willing to go to the online store. w00t. Now they "gave" the PvE community EotN...and if you want the extra missions, you gotta go to the online store. If this requirement exceptable for PvPers, why should pvEers be excluded? Because they like the box?

Next time you don't like something, voice your feelings before they do it. Not after its announced. Think of this like CE aruas and dances. Lots of people want it, everyone whose got it uses but...but not everyone has it. To get special auras and dances, you had to do something for them: pay extra for the collectors edition.

To get these missions, Anet asked you to do something for them: buy in the online store.

It would also make them look like liars. I would have liked a box, but chose the BMP over cardboard and CDs. Is Anet going to recompense me when they flipflop on the release details for your benefit?

Should I start a thread about how unfair it is that I followed their request for online store support and then they changed the rules so now every one has these bonuses which were supposed to be exclusive? Would you support that thread with equal enthusiasm once you've gotten what you want?

I WANT MY BOX! GIMMIE MY BOX ANET

Sounds a little silly, yes?

GGs

um, no you can't

the store offers pvp packs, campaigns, goty upgrade, pre-orders and character slots only.

and a mojority of the CE items are physical items anyway so you can't get them from the online store.

That, sir, is the lamest excuse ever! I would suggest you don't use it ever in your court affairs.

There is no such thing as pre-paid credit cards in Belgium and other European mainland countries.

Debit Cards can not be used for the online store, if you live on the European mainland (which is, if you look on the globe, the undeniably largest part of Europe).

How is Arenanet deciding to leave a large part of their established customers out of the deal not Arenanet's fault?

If Arenanet wants to become an even greater player on the market, would they shrink their clientele? Because, that's what a conversion to an online distribution model will cause. It would mean they would abandon the gap in the market they grew on, leaving it open for new competition.

They allready made themselves look like liars, when they came back from the promise of distributing all content also to retail-customers. In fact, releasing a "Bonus Edition" in retail-stores, after the Bonus Missions have gone live, would be fixing the injustice. Those who bought through the Online Store would technically have earlier acces.

For belgian/Dutch/German people there is something new, called Wirecard, its a virtual credit card

Check this link
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10208704