Anet doesn't care for Europe Players?

Wakka

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On a side topic to this topic.

Check the Automated Tournament times. I think there's one or two a week us Euros can actually make without staying up to the early hours of the morning.

Yanman.be

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The reason that there are no Dutch servers: Only when the game is translated into dutch, but there is no company doing that. Italy has gotten their servers purely because there is a translation company backing it...not because there are only 200 players playing on their districts!

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WTH?
Hats ... This topic isnt about hats ... =/ It isnt about events either, its about that Anet does support Europe players ...

- PlayNC doesn't respond back about the Bonus Mission Pack
- No other payments in the store for dutch and belgian players

My complaint is and will still be
Anet get your lazy bum of that chair and do something for your players, let them know, you care!
Let them know you will do something for them! But now how you are doing it right now! Some people feel you left them in the cold ...

Alexandra-Sweet

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I find it kind of sad that Arena Net is failing (or going to fail) to provide players with alternative payment options to get the Bonus Mission Pack.

Dutch people might be known to be greedy and carefull use with money, but using credit cards on the internet just isn't safe, could aswell use PayPal instead.

I had to use my dads credit card without his permission, by the time he finds out I'll be playing the Bonus Mission Pack.

Torino Cowell

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i agree, anet does favour nearly everywhere except europe , but this isn't wow , there aren't online fees for all the big improvements etc , anet is a business , it can't afford everything

Etta

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Torino Cowell
i agree, anet does favour nearly everywhere except europe
lol, really? look at the Australian, New Zealander, those poor folks in China and South Africa. When was the last time they got anything? If anything we're spoiled rotten.

Explodie

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But then give everyone who bought GWEN the bonus mission pack.
So you can make it stil fair!

Or they had to release "GW Pre Paid Cards"
So you could buy them in your local retailer shop, but not this way, this is so unfair.

And yes Anet favour indeed everything except Europe, its like Anet doesnt even like Europe -_-'


Even when GW beta came out, Europe players had to import them out of America.
But stil i think Anet should have make a system so you can bank money to a bank account where you need to leave your account name/email adress ...
So Anet could contact you, but this is and will always be unfair ...

Edit:
Etta dont forgot the korean players have coke items -_- (not the drugs)
And yes your right, Anet should care about their Players and not about the money in their pockets!

Estic

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Join Date: Mar 2006

Mongoose United

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
The reason that there are no Dutch servers: Only when the game is translated into dutch, but there is no company doing that. Italy has gotten their servers purely because there is a translation company backing it...not because there are only 200 players playing on their districts!
Well, let's start the translation then.

Fissure of Woe - Scheur van Wee

Anyone still wants a dutch server?

Thundro

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Join Date: Sep 2006

Guardians of Divinity

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Estic
Well, let's start the translation then.

Fissure of Woe - Scheur van Wee

Anyone still wants a dutch server?
Yes please, I want a dutch server... so I can avoid it.

All the people that speak Dutch in the game are either young players or childish morans. I have yet to meet an intelligent dutch player.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate dutch, heck I'm dutch myself.
I just seems to run into a lot of retards that's all.

Pyro maniac

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Join Date: Apr 2006

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If there was a Dutch server, I would be hanging around in the american districts, for both translations and all the 'NL/BE Guild zoeken members'.
As for event times: There are always whiners. Anet took 0:00 EST as begin and end time. If they would be doing 0:00 GMT, then there will be Europeans who think that Americans are in favor of them, because they have better times (starting at noon, ending at noon).

Estic

Estic

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Join Date: Mar 2006

Mongoose United

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thundro
Yes please, I want a dutch server... so I can avoid it.

All the people that speak Dutch in the game are either young players or childish morans. I have yet to meet an intelligent dutch player.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate dutch, heck I'm dutch myself.
I just seems to run into a lot of retards that's all.
Couldn't agree more. Apart from the dutch speaking in general chat (which is pretty horrific in itself...) the names of certain people... oh the names!

Please let them enjoy their Scheur van Wee, Trollenzalf (Troll Unguent) and Kwaardaardige Geest (SS)

Etta

Etta

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

Quote:
Originally Posted by Explodie
But then give everyone who bought GWEN the bonus mission pack. So you can make it stil fair!
I do agree with you, seeing that the only way you can get the mission pack is to pay for it online.

Quote:
And yes Anet favour indeed everything except Europe, its like Anet doesnt even like Europe -_-'
No, just some country in the EU.


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Etta dont forgot the korean players have coke items -_- (not the drugs)
When did I mention Korean players? They're the most spoiled, because of NCSoft.

I've seem to miss the point in this thread now. What was it again?

Roshi_ikkyu

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Join Date: Apr 2006

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I'm voiceing in for the Australian public to say; When you start getting treated like us (and our fellow mates in South africa.... they have it worse then even us) and NewZealand, Then you can Q Q.


Written by roshi ikkyu for the ANZPGW party, endorsed by Roshi Ikkyu.

Explodie

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The point was Anet should start caring about the players, the only person at Anet that cares about the players is Gaile ...

Well the only thing i know is that if Anet not should start caring they wont see me in GW2 >.< (Not that they care ... =/ its only 1 person of 1.000.00)

And btw the bonus mission pack isnt for free ... So i think that is the reason why we wont get it with "GWEN"
You have to pay 26€ for something else, and then you will get the BMP, so you pay 26€ for it.


And yes because alot of people posted here, we got offtrack >.>

Tom Swift

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Join Date: Aug 2007

Other problems aside -

I have not and will not order from the online store or buy any other expansion or game from ANet until they begin to treat all customer fairly.

Although I live in the US and could easily use a credit card and have even given up on the hope they would drop the idiot notion that you must tie your game account to a PlayNC account, I have not ordered anything - although I would love the Bonus Mission Pack.

I did purchase GWEN from a retailer to finish the story line. My sons' accounts and my mule account did not get GWEN, however, because there was no way I was going to shell out another 120.00 to an unfair company. Neither will I buy GW2 or any online offering (or any retail games for that matter) from ANet until they make things fair globally in their sales department.

In a global market there is absolutely no excuse to charge exorbitant prices in some parts of the world (Australia and New Zealand) and to make it virtually impossible to order at all in other areas. There is no excuse to separate out promotions in different areas - offering one miniature in one area and others in another is just a way of creating hard feelings and jealousy among the player base.

This is bad marketing ANet. You act like it is an American/Korean game to which you grudgingly invite a few players from other parts of the world. You made a global game, it's high time you get your heads on right and start acting like it.

Bad Anet - no cookie!

Etta

Etta

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

Quote:
Originally Posted by Explodie
The point was Anet should start caring about the players, the only person at Anet that cares about the players is Gaile ...
Are you drunk?

Anyway, the bottom line is, Anet can't do all the good things for everyone and everywhere. ANet made, fix, update, nerf the game but NCSoft is the one who're selling it, make a promotional deal in different part of the world, online system payment, t-shirt, underwear, mouse etc.

If anyone should get a blame it is NCSoft.

Viruzzz

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Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thundro
Yes please, I want a dutch server... so I can avoid it.

All the people that speak Dutch in the game are either young players or childish morans. I have yet to meet an intelligent dutch player.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate dutch, heck I'm dutch myself.
I just seems to run into a lot of retards that's all.
you nailed it. that's exactly the reason why I always played on the American servers when it was either Europe OR American servers, sure i got bad pings, but i'll take that over playing with someone who thinks they know me just because they live on the same side of the globe as me. I don't feel any sort of bond to another person because they are european rather than asian or american or african, heck, i don't feel a bond to most people in my country.

personally as far as districts go, i think the very best option would be to remove EVERY district except English, and then make an international district, like there used to be. that way no one gets treated unfairly. everyone gets an equal share

as far as the ingame store goes, here in Denmark i can get a combined bank-card and visa-card, and its cheap too, i don't pay much for it.
So why can't you get it that cheap in other countries? (it's possible to do it that cheap) it's more a problem with the individual countries than with GW. and just how would you pay for paypal without a CC anyway?

Lady Ana Stacia

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Originally Posted by The Bard
ok well i'm not sure how the bank system works there but here in sweden i get a bank card (not credit card) it is a visa card and i can pay with it in any store i want, the cost of the item i'm buying is taken from my bank account right away. it's not a credit card but a payment card(?) or whatever you wanna call it hehe. costs maybe €20 per year. it's also the same card i use to get cash from an ATM. maybe your bank have something similar that would work?
Actually the dutch have failed to figure out the effectiveness of visa check cards (aka what your referring to). After living here 7 yrs its of little surprise to me!

Gli

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Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Ana Stacia
Actually the dutch have failed to figure out the effectiveness of visa check cards (aka what your referring to). After living here 7 yrs its of little surprise to me!
A card I'd need for nothing other than to spend a few dimes in ANet's online store, costs me more money anually than I'd ever spend with it and the very ownership of which raises flags when you apply for a mortgage is effective how, exactly?

Lady Ana Stacia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gli
A card I'd need for nothing other than to spend a few dimes in ANet's online store, costs me more money anually than I'd ever spend with it and the very ownership of which raises flags when you apply for a mortgage is effective how, exactly?
Actually it is no different then a debit card, it does not effect your credit as there is no line of credit. It has a VISA LOGO and can be used anywhere Visa is accepted but the money is pulled directly out of your bank acct. No money means you can't use the card.

The dutch are behind the times in almost every area, and really need to realize this.

Of the several banks I have done business with in the USA NONE of them charge a monthly fee, unlike the dutch banks who charge just to fricking talk to them!

But alas this is not about the dutch, its just a simple fact. Hence, I can totally understand why Anet does not go above and beyond to do business with them in outstanding aspects.

Xinix

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Well, I'm from Belgium and I have no problems with anything of it.
I paid with Visa (Visa costs about 20 € per year, not 30 € per month!).
If you don't have Visa maybe you can ask your dad or girlfriend who has one.

And concerning the language it is no real issue because we speak 4 languages.
A lot of others European countries don't have stuff in their language either.

The start hour of an event is also no big deal as we all have 24 hours in a day.

lg5000

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

I'm a bit confused here.. I'm in Australia, and shouldn't we complain that most weekend events carry into our Monday and that means taking a sicky to enjoy the event? If Europe, who are about 12 hours behind us are complaining about getting a shorter event because of that.. least you guys get it saturday/sunday not sunday/monday

Yeah, too tired to make sense or want to make sense.

Also, someone very smart (NC Soft) decided that Australia/New Zealand is part of Europe, though Australia pays in pounds and NZ in Euro.. and why is the UK still using Pounds anyway??

isamu kurosawa

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Quote:
Originally Posted by lg5000
Also, someone very smart (NC Soft) decided that Australia/New Zealand is part of Europe, though Australia pays in pounds and NZ in Euro.. and why is the UK still using Pounds anyway??
Because its our currency, it's stronger than the Euro and the majority of the brittish public doesn't want to change over.

SotiCoto

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Quote:
Originally Posted by lg5000
Also, someone very smart (NC Soft) decided that Australia/New Zealand is part of Europe, though Australia pays in pounds and NZ in Euro.. and why is the UK still using Pounds anyway??
Because we're a bunch of traditionalists.... and our currency pwnz their currency. Why did the rest of Europe change to use the Euro?

Explodie

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Quote:
Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa
Because its our currency, it's stronger than the Euro and the majority of the brittish public doesn't want to change over.

Those where very smart people. i dont like the euro either i want the gulden back T_T

1 euro is 2.20 gulden, and they make from gulden euro's, before the euro you paid 1.35 gulden for a bread and now you pay 2 euro's for a bread ...



But back ontopic, you talk about "Belgian"
The visa isnt cheap in the Netherlands ... =/

Shadowfox1125

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Wow.. this complaint is like..

"waaaat!!!! Anet is starting the event 12pm PST! They don't care about those in EST!!! baawwww!!!"

It's not like the end of the world if you don't make the beginning of the event. Remember that the mad king comes every 6 hours?

Anet is an American company. Wait, so it's not true that Europeans hate Americans?

Go whine to NCSoft, not Anet.

Gli

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Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Ana Stacia
Actually it is no different then a debit card, it does not effect your credit as there is no line of credit. It has a VISA LOGO and can be used anywhere Visa is accepted but the money is pulled directly out of your bank acct. No money means you can't use the card.
Actually, I used to have a Visa card some years ago. It didn't take money directly out of my bank account. It worked as a revolving credit with a limit I could set myself, and I got monthly bills with quite a steep interest. It got flagged when I applied for a mortgage when I bought my first house. Since I only used it for very infrequent online purchases, I ditched it. I never had any kind of need for one since then. (Except to spend a teensy tiny amount in the terribly limited ANet online store.)

If Visa has different kinds of cards over here, they're woefully inept at marketing them, because despite living over here for my entire life, I never heard of it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Ana Stacia
The dutch are behind the times in almost every area, and really need to realize this.
Wait, what? We eliminated the need for a costly, fraud-prone 1950s payment system and we are the ones behind the times? Dream on.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Ana Stacia
But alas this is not about the dutch, its just a simple fact. Hence, I can totally understand why Anet does not go above and beyond to do business with them in outstanding aspects.
Well, you know, if they don't want our money, good for them.

SotiCoto

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Drazach Thicket

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125
Wow.. this complaint is like..

"waaaat!!!! Anet is starting the event 12pm PST! They don't care about those in EST!!! baawwww!!!"

It's not like the end of the world if you don't make the beginning of the event. Remember that the mad king comes every 6 hours?

Anet is an American company. Wait, so it's not true that Europeans hate Americans?

Go whine to NCSoft, not Anet.
I'm thinking the complaint is less focused on the timing of events and more focused on the inability to buy products via the in-game store, and thus being denied the Bonus Mission Pack.

That said.... I'm denied an awful lot of really awesome games because they're not released outside of Japan, or simply not released in Europe (and my consoles can't play import games).... but it isn't as though I feel I have some innate right to have them.

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This is funny.

I want a luxemburgish district! Now! A-net doesn't care about the 30-ish luxemburgish GuildWars players (half of which I probably know personnally )! Add luxemburgish translations!


That district would be awesome to meet your friends though. There's a big chance it would be empty. Always.

lg5000

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isamu kurosawa; SotiCoto.. thanks

I guess trying to convince the UK that being part of the EU might include changing currency to Euro is like convincing the US that measuring distance in metres rather than feet and miles is a good idea...

I certainly felt like we were still an English colony when I was faced with having to pay for my online purchase in pounds. (btw, we still have the English queen as head of state, so I guess that still makes us an English colony)

Explodie

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But i have a simple feeling, that this threath wont help >.>

Because Anet needs to know, that we dont take it any longer, and that we want to be heard, and not pushed away ...

But i dont even think Anet would read this topic ...

Estic

Estic

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Join Date: Mar 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Explodie
Because Anet needs to know, that we dont take it any longer, and that we want to be heard, and not pushed away ...
Speak for yourself. I personally can take it very well, have nothing to tell Anet and don't feel like I am pushed away.

Explodie

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Estic
Speak for yourself. I personally can take it very well, have nothing to tell Anet and don't feel like I am pushed away.
Then not for you >.>
But some people do!

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

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Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thundro
Yes please, I want a dutch server... so I can avoid it.

All the people that speak Dutch in the game are either young players or childish morans. I have yet to meet an intelligent dutch player.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate dutch, heck I'm dutch myself.
I just seems to run into a lot of retards that's all.
Interesting, all the dutch players i've met in game are some of the nicest players i know, I have quite a few in my guild.

odd thing is, every dutch person i know plays monk primary and not for the farming possibilities.

Etta

Etta

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

Quote:
Originally Posted by Explodie
Because Anet needs to know, that we dont take it any longer, and that we want to be heard, and not pushed away ...

But i dont even think Anet would read this topic ...
Which part of Anet made the game and NCsoft publishing the game don't you understand?

SotiCoto

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Drazach Thicket

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Quote:
Originally Posted by lg5000
isamu kurosawa; SotiCoto.. thanks

I guess trying to convince the UK that being part of the EU might include changing currency to Euro is like convincing the US that measuring distance in metres rather than feet and miles is a good idea...

I certainly felt like we were still an English colony when I was faced with having to pay for my online purchase in pounds. (btw, we still have the English queen as head of state, so I guess that still makes us an English colony)
Last I checked, Canadian Dollars have our Queen on the back too.
She sure is a popular old lass.

Does that make Canada one of our colonies too?

Explodie

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Etta
Which part of Anet made the game and NCsoft publishing the game don't you understand?
Because Anet is the Community for GuildWars, as like NCsoft would even set a foot on this forum?

Gaile is from Anet so i was hoping she would read this Forum and then would go to NCsoft with this story ...

Lady Ana Stacia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gli
Actually, I used to have a Visa card some years ago. It didn't take money directly out of my bank account. It worked as a revolving credit with a limit I could set myself, and I got monthly bills with quite a steep interest. It got flagged when I applied for a mortgage when I bought my first house. Since I only used it for very infrequent online purchases, I ditched it. I never had any kind of need for one since then. (Except to spend a teensy tiny amount in the terribly limited ANet online store.)

If Visa has different kinds of cards over here, they're woefully inept at marketing them, because despite living over here for my entire life, I never heard of it.


Wait, what? We eliminated the need for a costly, fraud-prone 1950s payment system and we are the ones behind the times? Dream on.


Well, you know, if they don't want our money, good for them.
The card he is referring to is a VISA CHECK CARD not a Visa card, they are two different things. Yes Visa's are expensive in the Netherlands and yes they are behind the times, their banking system SUCKS! Yes I can say that, I live here as well.

The Visa Check card is NOT a traditional Visa that is the point you are missing. Visa Check Cards are not issued by Visa they are issued by your BANK! It is a debit card which carries the Visa LOGO for accessibility purposes without the drawbacks of a traditional credit card.

It is the banks that are woefully inept for not offering them in the first place, not Visa as they don't come from Visa. As far as not wanting your money, its more likely not worth the headache for the amount it would generate.

Explodie

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If you want to know how its been here in the Netherlands?

They want to take the money away from Students, they have to take a loan, and when they finish school they need to pay the money back!

How its been now at this moment is that kids older then eighteen get money to go to school, its not much, but you can buy schoolstuff from the money!

And they want to take the money away to pay teachers from it!

So thats going on, in the dutch society, so do you think they will add visacards on your bank system?

SotiCoto

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Drazach Thicket

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Explodie
If you want to know how its been here in the Netherlands?

They want to take the money away from Students, they have to take a loan, and when they finish school they need to pay the money back!

How its been now at this moment is that kids older then eighteen get money to go to school, its not much, but you can buy schoolstuff from the money!

And they want to take the money away to pay teachers from it!

So thats going on, in the dutch society, so do you think they will add visacards on your bank system?
Erm.... the UK has student loans too (that are supposed to be interest-free, but then they start charging interest on it when you start paying it back, so it never ends).... and we use our Debit Cards (or "Maestro" these days) to pay for stuff online just fine.
Just because the government want to cheat you out of other stuff doesn't mean that bank cards are totally out of the question.