Do you care about a PUG's titles when PvEing ?

i care more about builds. i'm not interested in taking johnny junior wammo with heal sig, orison, hbreeze, and resurrect on his skill bar.

so i look first at skill bars, then maybe at armor/weapons; a lot of time, people just want to show off, and that's fine, but again, if they're in platemail, that usually means a lack of skill/knowledge. some people actually like the way it looks, but most of the time if they're in stupid armor there's a reason, and not a good reason either.

finally, there's titles. these days, "Real" titles get obscured by stuff like LB title, which everyone uses after a certain point to get advantage in a zone. rarely you'll see people who again just want to show off their "i have 25 max titles" title, but sometimes you'll see people with a title you respect (personally i like the Skill Hunter titles) that might help you figure out if they're skillful or if they're just a grinder.

then you blend it all together and figure out your final opinion of the person.

eudas

FoW armor is, in most cases, ugly anyways. It's always been nothing more than a status symbol (and a tacky one at that).

I have a bad habit of not checking titles when im in HA... I really should =P.
But, the only time I've ever pugged was as a newb. These days i dun play PvE unless im going for survivor, in which case Pugz are out of the question.

PvE pugs from what ive seen are an excuse for some people to do stupid things... Ive seen a warrior with Bip sac himself before the mission even started =.=

I don't have FoW, but I do have multiple sets of Vabbian and more sets of 15k than I can shake a stick at and I don't display titles, ever. Hell, I don't even have that many because I really don't care about them and I think getting them is mostly a giant waste of time, effort and sometimes money.

That said, I don't pug, but if I did, I'd be interested in builds, not titles. I don't even check people's titles because one's ability to make blue bars go up doesn't correspond to actually knowing what you're doing.

Edit: and considering that in many show-off threads, I see people with a bazillion titles and awful builds...

I don't pay attention to titles at all. I'm not even really sure how far I am towards any of them on any of my toons, nor how many titles I might have.

Don't check builds either when I PUG, I just jump in for the ride.

I find it interesting what titles people choose to display. If sitting around in town I often click around looking at titles

They pretty much never change my mind on PUGing or not - but then if I'm PUGing I'm doing so to goof off and do not really care about much anyway (I still play the best as I can - it is disrespectful to do otherwise, I just do not care about any technical part as it is more being social).

The other thing I have always found amusing is the frequency of getting blind invites based on armor and titles - especially on less wanted classes. It is amusing that when my Dervish wears her red dyed sunspear armor and displays rank one of the Luxon Title and gets almost no invites, then displaying black dyed vabbian/primeval with high ranked wisdom title gets quite a few. Also amusing is that I got bored with LB title grinding shortly after HM came out, at the time my rank was considered high and I was absolutely flooded with invites - little change other than time and me not farming points to get to max level and I couldn't join a group to save my life

And, lastly, I find too much of the following to be the case:

All sorts of reasons for that. It's is like the occasional person who makes fun of someone with an armor set dyed black they feel is "wasted" or (one my necro gets fairly often) a high ranked/hard title displayed when I have all 1k armor dyed blue - who cares? Maybe it is an alt and I have more gold than I know what to do with, maybe I like the armor better than any of the ascendant armor sets, maybe they are sitting on the other side of a rank 5 or 6 KOABD title and displaying the one or two they haven't bothered with to laugh at people making fun of them?

I've been accused of being a bot and was, according to them, reported (since I ignored someone Whispering me and being an idiot when I was farming in Bergin Hot Springs back when the bots were heavy there) and purchasing gold (see the above paragraphs for the two instances) and have never done either. In fact I feel either case in an online game should result in perma-bans, it is just that the vast majority of online detectives aren't very good at their jobs - thus I mostly leave off trying to do so.

Of course, other than a few titles that is why looking at titles is irrelevant. I agree that displaying a rank 1 LB title on someone who is taking both LB gaze and signet is pretty much a waste in the late game areas - but that is more to do with their skill bar than their title. I would also ask someone to display their "correct" title in any GWEN area - a rank 1 Norn title is more useful than a max rank Asura title when in Norn areas. But, again, that is more an issue of actual in game mechanical difference than trying to judge how good they will do (and it is very easy to forget to change which title you are displaying if you move around a lot).

I never pug in the places where titles can be an issue.
Not because of other people - but because I REFUSE to bloody turn on any bloody titles that have an effect on gameplay.

Other then that - titles have become insanely boring. They went from that extra touch that could be used to further personalize one's character to something that became as mandatory as max armour. Sure you don't need it, but it's REALLY REALLY REALLY good to have it.

All of my characters have just one title always displayed - Golden. (Although I'd switch it out for the max Sweet Tooth title anytime (if I had it!)! It's just so sweet! )

I care A LOT about titles.

If I'm pugging in RoT, they all better be wearing their Lightbringer title, even if it's only Rank 1.

Same thing for Dwarven, Norn, Asura and Charr territories.



Prestige titles? No, that's a personal thing.

It's the whole HoM paradox. Sure you have a nice HoM with plenty of things to show off.

Nobody. Gives. A. Go Red Engine Go.

I don't PUG, so I don't care.

When I PUG in NM, i don't care about titles and most of the time the builds. Just want to play with people. When PUGing in HM or elite zones, it's a different matter. Titles that increase the power of the player can be important and builds are meant to be descent (not necessarily wiki copy/paste). Almost everything can be done with Heroes and Mercs. It's just funnier to play with people.

I care more about whats on their skill bar then the title they choose to display.

So nobody told you about the PvE exclusive skills?
Last I checked, their respective title ranks directly influence the effectiveness of those skills.



Personally... I'm not fussed about titles most of the time when PuG'ing.... but as a rule of thumb, I NEVER party with Rank 1 or 2 Survivors.... as I don't trust them not to just leech. I don't like Rank 3 Survivors either as generally I suspect them of having leeched in the past, and thus of a potentially detrimental mind-set.

Oh... and I don't invite people with Luxon titles on display either. I'm a roleplayer AND a Kurzick... and I'm not in the habit of teaming with the enemy.

Sure, titles are great way to distinguish good players from bad ones, but they're not the only factor I would consider while PUGging.

Really only two things are important:
1. Communication, starting from the first greeting when coming to party will make or break the impression of players quality. I have zero tolerance for jackasses who come to party and never communicate or when communicating always complain about something.

2. Build / certain titles. I really could care less if someone is showing his Sunspear Castellan title or 70% cartographer, but generally those titles that require dedication (high HA rank, KoaBD, vanquisher) will positively influence my decision. I'll take Assassin with vanquisher title to my party any day. Build is another thing. Generally if the build looks reasonable, I'll give a few tips, but if I find Mending and Healing Breeze on Monk's bar, it's goodbye.

regardless of the player's title, i think the more important thing is if the people you are playing with is polite/courteous. no use having lots of titles and when you play with them they are a pain in the you know where and talk like they are some kind of big shots.

Skill bar > title.

Says it all really.

- Xeeron

I don't PUG, but if i did i would be looking at both the bar and title. Sure they may have a great bar... copied in 30 secs from PvX Wiki. I'd be looking for titles such as guardian / vanquisher or maybe even decent PvP titles. Titles can generally show they not only have a good bar, but play it well.

If i was forming a PUG then the only reason i woudl look at a title is if it had a correlation to the area i am in, for example, in DOA i would look to the lightbringer title and try to get higher end ones as they would have better chances of surviving and damaging. otherwise i liek to see how someone is doing and congratulate them on how they are doing if particularly well.

most titles just show the achivemment a person has made, but does not reflect on thier skill in playing. Mind you i suppose guardians and vanquishers must have some skill

I think it's encouraging if a character has a Protector or Guardian title; it suggests they do indeed know their butt from a hole in the ground.

The grind- and money-based titles don't tell me anything about their playing skill, though. Same with expensive armor and weapon skins.

Skill > Time spent, as always.

Then you will never be playing with me, as I absolutely refuse to display titles that give a statistical bonus, as well as use PvE only skills. I believe those are the two worst additions this game has ever had.

Nope, never look at titles nor care about them.

If i took a PuG Titles wouldnt really matter to me, how much they knew the area and skillbar would be more important.

I only really check if they directly use a particular PvE skill associated with a title, or in other cases where the title conferrs another benefit, like damage reduction and the like.

I don't discriminate over it, though. It's nice to see when people have a high title, though.

Most of the time I pug is in NM where me + 3 heroes can pretty much carry the team, in which case I take a few pug people just because its more fun. In this case it doesn't matter too much to me at all what their builds, but I still think its important to offer any advice if I see someone with something pretty bad. Much of the time if the pug does well you can move right on to the next mission and so on, and hopefully people will become nice enough to deserve a spot on friends list. The only titles I really see any skill in is Guardian, Vanquisher, or a fairly high hero rank or a champion rank. If someone has one of those they get a lot more leeway in their builds, and I'll consider any suggestions of theirs more then I would others. But no matter what if a player starts cussing or insulting other people they will get the boot. I really don't care if you have maxed every title in the game, you are out if you can't be polite. The fact is the whole game can be beaten with mending wammos, healing breeze monks, and assassins with 8 attack skills, but playing with someone who just acts like a jackass makes me want to stop playing.

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Originally Posted by SotiCoto Oh... and I don't invite people with Luxon titles on display either. I'm a roleplayer AND a Kurzick... and I'm not in the habit of teaming with the enemy.

But you did team up with them to beat Shiro... Right?

Right?

- Aa, nice! I suppose you could take that attitude too. I see that not everyone likes to have intentionally ridiculously easy PvE

I l;ook at the titles when we are doing something specific like vanquishing a certain area or what not. Like if we are in a charr area i would like the poeple to atleast wear their vangaurd title as it helps out. Other than that i like to see what people have cause its neat to see what people are doing.

I never play with PUGs, but the very thought of people getting into PUGs without a decent title makes me positively livid. How dare they!

(That was a joke.)

I don't pug often at all, but when I do I don't worry too much about it. I mean if I get in a group I'll sometimes have a look around and see what people choose to display, but it's really not a concern. I joined a pug to do Heart of the Shiverpeaks the other day, because it's much easier to beat that damn worm with enough people to carry kegs. We had a W/Rt who was spamming spirits. We still passed the dungeon very easily, and I got a decent laugh irl watching this warrior rock faces with his wanderlust. It was win-win. Why deprive myself of that much enjoyment by quabbling about titles or preaching about build effectiveness?

There are certain missions that I may PuG if no guildies are online, such as the Eternal Grove. I'll definately check the people's titles out of curiousity, but it really doesn't bother me what they have... Vanquisher/Protector/Guardian titles can be good to see, as it shows that these people atleast understood how to get through the different PvE areas.

Yes. If they show the skill(z) title I leave. Moronic title and shows what kind of people are behind GW.

I generally don't. Because I have like..very few maxed titles myself. I concentrate on all professions, and rarely would sit on one character for very long. I get bored a bit easily with working on a single profession so I switch around.

well if i pug for a laugh,and i see some warrior in FoW armour...i check titles,but wierd thing is theyre usually W/Mo's with mending and healing breeze...
wtb mending touch

Nope I don't as titles weren't there 2 years ago.It is not like HA where fame matters or does it.

I look out of curiosity but don't really care all that much. More or less I check to see if they're going for the survivor title so that I can make sure to keep my wits about me and make sure that they don't end up getting all the aggro.

Other than that it's just out of curiosity, and depending on the title, quiet respect for the effort that have put into attaining whatever it is they're displaying.

Yeah i do check titles on players, specialy on AB teams (well the higher the rank the better the player no mistake there), as PvE goes it doesn`t matter that much there i tend to figure out how serious the player is, i really don`t have time for quiters and rushers.But there`s a cure for that most of the time, and that is to play with someone u know, which i prefer !!!
Even then when playin` with guildies or alliance i don`t mind takin some newbie in team as long i`m certain he can be controlled or he`s willing to learn something !!!

it depends. the only title that i'll look if a PUG member has it is the LB title. even then that's only if the mission/quest/farming benefited from it.

otherwise, no, title doesnt matter, skill bar does.

I do not normally even look at them.

If I'm forming a FoW group and I see some guy with Map Exploration 60% and some guy with max treasure hunter chances are I'll take the treasure hunter.

Any real reason why? To a point, yes. Chances are the guy with the treasure hunter title is going to be the better player. Is it always that way? Of course not.

I check because I'm curious. The only time I take it into consideration is when it's the Lightbringer title, but even then I just ask the person to display it if they have it.