Petition: Fix locked chest drops!

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

Nothing to me is more irritating than farming in Hard Mode, finding a locked chest, and not only breaking the lockpick, but the chest spawning a PURPLE. Who wants purples in hard mode? They should be golds, tomes, gems, etc. Not purples. It's one thing if they drop from monsters, but they shouldn't drop from chests. Who agrees with me?

Shakkara

Shakkara

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

Chest loot should increase for all chests, it's really annoying that it takes a lot of time AND you lose 75% of your investment on average!

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

I'll sign this, considering most golds that are dropped are shiznit anyway, that you are gonna merch.

Nemo the Capitalist

Nemo the Capitalist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Trust me you dont want to know my Chasms of Despair

Zaishen Brotherhood

N/Me

most are shiznt lol

Lady Ana Stacia

Lady Ana Stacia

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Germany

Beware of our Temper [BooT]

Me/

/notsigned

Chests are meant to be a gamble, grapes are a part of the game.

Cale Roughstar

Cale Roughstar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Canada

Guy In Real Life [GIRL]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Ana Stacia
Chests are meant to be a gamble, grapes are a part of the game.
Yeah, but they still suck.

/signed

Shakkara

Shakkara

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Ana Stacia
/notsigned

Chests are meant to be a gamble, grapes are a part of the game.
The ratio is very off though.

Plus the keys got more expensive relatively speaking, thanks to loot scaling. And it's harder to sell items to players and the merch only gives 80-300 for an item.

Kong

Kong

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

I do agree that it sucks to open a chest and not only break a lockpick but get a purple, but should it be changed? I don't think so.

It's fine the way it is.

/not signed

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

/notsigned
It stinks, but its not broken (thus it doesn't need to be "fixed"). Welcome to the world of statistics and luck.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

/signed.

Yep chest drops should definitely never be purple in HM and maybe a higher percentage of keeping them in NM.

Oh and if it wrecks the game for the people that say /not signed, even better.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Post your desire for better drops in the suggestion forum.

Asking ANet to fix your luck - good luck with that! :>

YunSooJin

YunSooJin

Pyromaniac

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

/facepalm
/facebrickwall

/notsigned

capitalist

capitalist

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by YunSooJin
/facepalm
/facebrickwall

/notsigned
QFT.
/QFT
-QFT

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

/Signed

I can hardly tell the difference between regular chests and locked chests when it comes to purple Vs. gold loots. Locked chests need a larger gold ratio, or lockpicks need to be cheaper to balence it out.


This isn't about someone have bad luck. This is about just about every player getting robbed on lockpick cost versus loot. Ratio needs to be changed.

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by garethporlest18
/signed.

Yep chest drops should definitely never be purple in HM and maybe a higher percentage of keeping them in NM.

Oh and if it wrecks the game for the people that say /not signed, even better.
/not signed, since it's already nicely ruining the game for people that say /signed.

Mwuahahahaha.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Antheus
/not signed, since it's already nicely ruining the game for people that say /signed.

Mwuahahahaha.
Doesn't ruin my game, the game itself does that. Oh and I deal with purples when I get them, I don't care.

Vulkanyaz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

/signed

in hm at least

aapo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

/not signed

Purple is my favorite color.

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

I got an elemental sword from a chest. That makes up for 250 lockpicks. I think chests should have shittier drops. kk?

Arcane Moonshine

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Italy

Extremely Violent Aggressors [EVA]

E/

/signed for GW:EN only...drops from chests there really suck and you need a lockpick even in normal mode...


/notsigned for the rest of areas

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
I got an elemental sword from a chest. That makes up for 250 lockpicks. I think chests should have shittier drops. kk?
I approve of this message. The thread it has been posted in, however...

Just sounds a bit like a "plz anet im poor halp me" sort of thing. Chests aren't important, and the loot from chests isn't important. They are an added luxury for those who like to gamble. With the money you willingly spend gambling on chests, sometimes you can buy the item you want loads cheaper, and sometimes you can make massive profits. But, if you don't want to gamble at all, then collectors and crafters should be your best friends.

Mad King Corn

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2006

/signed
Even if the chests were to drop 100% golds, 95% of the golds are merchant fodder anyways. Purples from chests just don't make sense. Bottom line, it's still a massive gold sink even with 100% golds, so I don't see why we should get purples from chests. At least with 100% golds, we could better our titles, which would help offset the massive cash loss of keys and lockpicks. I may even be tempted to start buying keys and lockpicks again.

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

E/

/not signed, i would liek to see an improvement in the gold drops but not purples gone altogether.

as otherwise its not as much fun,
"is it gonna be a gold or 5th purple.....its a gold yay..."
and so forth

if you want to "Win" in the lockpick buissness...i really shouldn't be telling you this but....Don't buy any, i've saved a nice bit so far, and if you want title you get 2 shiver keys for 1 pick, and if your l;cuky it retains....

also fix retain rate....

I MP I

I MP I

Hustler

Join Date: Nov 2006

in between GW2 servers

Mo/

/not signed A gamble is a gamble. Besides, most of the golds are worthless nowadays anyway. Not to mention those going for their wisdom title can buy unidentified golds for 1k or less.

Personette

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

I do think it would be nice if they would at least alter the proportions a bit, so that you had a higher chance of getting high-value materials, tomes, etc. Or at least another key, like, "Sorry, play again!" They could keep the very rare stuff rare, but still make the drops from chests more satisfying.

I say this despite the fact that I rarely open chests anymore, since I don't enjoy hemorrhaging gold. Which is what happens until you get that one lucky drop, which is only really useful if you are any good at selling...

Increasing the proportion of tomes would be especially good - I love tomes so much. They've really reduced the price of skills, so even if they have a resale value that's significantly less than the cost of a key, it will (1) be a guaranteed +40% recoup of the value of the key in gold coins or (2) a new skill for one of your characters, which is kind of priceless in a way.

Big_Daddy

Big_Daddy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Big Daddy Experience [BigD]

N/Mo

I agree 100% with upping the gold drops on HM chests.

/signed

PS: And that includes Elite Tomes (specially Monk Tomes)

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

If they did that then all anyone would have to do is to zone outside boreal station in HM for an average 2 golds per minute so /notsigned here.

noneedforclevernames

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Jay To Much [SrE]

Me/N

/notsigned
I have a chest-running place in Hard Mode where I get about a chest a minute (Including merchant time) so this really would make chest runners make more than farmers. Isnt it already bad enough that HA players make more than farmers? but that's for a different thread.

Effendi Westland

Effendi Westland

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Isle of the dead

[DVDF][LDS]

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faer
Chests aren't important, and the loot from chests isn't important. They are an added luxury for those who like to gamble. With the money you willingly spend gambling on chests, sometimes you can buy the item you want loads cheaper, and sometimes you can make massive profits. But, if you don't want to gamble at all, then collectors and crafters should be your best friends.
Indeed.

/not signed.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

I going to sit on the wall for this one....I do believe that the items from a locked chest should be improved --regardless of the color (there are some really nice grapes out there, better than a good portion of the golds!)
But because of the cost of the picks themselves I think the value of the items should be increased, nothing under say 250g. It really sucks getting a grape thats only worth 90g from a locked chest....not even worth it to have opened the chest let alone the iding of it!

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
/not signed, i would liek to see an improvement in the gold drops but not purples gone altogether.

as otherwise its not as much fun,
"is it gonna be a gold or 5th purple.....its a gold yay..."
and so forth

if you want to "Win" in the lockpick buissness...i really shouldn't be telling you this but....Don't buy any, i've saved a nice bit so far, and if you want title you get 2 shiver keys for 1 pick, and if your l;cuky it retains....

also fix retain rate....
Excellent post - totally agree with all of this. The only thing I'd /sign to is an increase in the retain rate for everyone (not just title grinders). The probability rates are perfectly fine.

Marth Reynolds

Marth Reynolds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

The Lore Enforcers

Me/A

/not signed

besides it would probaly drop the item prices of rare items further and then you'd still get lesser profit from it.

i know it's not fun to get purples in hm chests, but it's a part of the gamble wich i am familair with, simply said not everything can be handed out on a silver platter

and the more purples you get the more chance of some super item dropping soon :P (i wish)

T. Drake

T. Drake

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

R/Me

/notsigned

The chests are fine the way they are now, but I wouldn’t mind an increased chance for a gold item in hard mode.

What they could do is improve the drops in the elite missions (The Deep, Urgoz’s Warren). “Wasting” 1,25k for a purple drop where you have to fight large groups of monsters to even see a chest sucks. Drops from this chests should always be gold imo.

Well lockpicks more expensive, but at least you have a chance to keep them after you’ve opened a chest.

Ctb

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

Hard Mode loot isn't scaled proportionately to the effort required to obtain it, chests or otherwise. If you're trying to make money from Hard Mode, you either have to:

A) Devote way too much time to playing the game
B) Get very lucky very early

If you're not a "hardcore" player, farm in normal mode. You'll make less money per run, but you can do the runs much faster.

Also, as has been pointed out, chests are a gamble, and gamblers very rarely beat the dealer. Even if they scaled the loot up to golds only in HM, you'd still lose money. You're really only looking at a savings of 200g or less per chest drop in savings, though. You'd have to open up 7 chests to save enough for 1 more lockpick.

/not signed

Pandora's box

Pandora's box

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Netherlands

Mo/W

/Signed.

Working on chests should not be a gamble but an investment, and a profitable one, given the time it takes. The best games anyway are those providing more roads leading to Rome

Crimso

Crimso

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

PCformatforums[PCFF]

Me/Mo

I have a good idea improve the drops depending on what happens, if the lockpick breakes you have a 9/10 chance of gettting a gold weapon but if it is retained it should have a 1/10 chance of being a gold.

w00t!

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sorrow's Furnace Hot Tub

RoS

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
I got an elemental sword from a chest. That makes up for 250 lockpicks. I think chests should have shittier drops. kk?
/notsigned

Req 8 15^50 Chaos Axe in FoW. About 250 picks there too....

Seems like GW:EN chests in NM give a higher percentage of grapes than other areas, but I guess that's just my luck...

pOmrAkkUn

pOmrAkkUn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Bangkok

Me/Mo

hmm stop open chest in HM, so u won't feel bad anymore

/notsigned

Government Flu

Government Flu

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Albuquerque, New Mexico

Paradoxa Zoloft Asylum [PXZ]

W/R

Quote:
The ratio is very off though.
No, it's not. As one or more posters have already mentioned, lockpicks and keys in general are a gamble. The chances of getting something good are, always were, and should continue to be, low. Yes, it sucks that 1,500g went to getting an r12 domination mesmer offhand, but it's a gamble.

Chests aren't about being "fair." They're a gold sink, and have a very small chance of being profitable. That being said, I sometimes make my money back off of a series of lockpicks or end up suffering a loss. It all depends, but the fact is that golds do fall from the chests and it's a comfortable rate.

If you think the drops in GW are bad and need to be fixed, I hope none of you ever go to Vegas...

shmek

shmek

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
Nothing to me is more irritating than farming in Hard Mode, finding a locked chest, and not only breaking the lockpick, but the chest spawning a PURPLE. Who wants purples in hard mode? They should be golds, tomes, gems, etc. Not purples. It's one thing if they drop from monsters, but they shouldn't drop from chests. Who agrees with me?
Fact is they need you to waste LOTS of gold in game. They've nerfed item drops continually to try to keep up some demand.