Petition: Fix locked chest drops!

shmek

shmek

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

[QUOTE=Government Flu]No, it's not. As one or more posters have already mentioned, lockpicks and keys in general are a gamble. The chances of getting something good are, always were, and should continue to be, low. QUOTE] Wrong ... maybe you didn't play in prophesies only when a gold item meant max stats.

Correct..... about the gold sinks.

Dean Harper

Dean Harper

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

USA

The Killer Clan Musketeers [TKCM]

Me/E

/notsigned

messing with the economy jsut so you get a few extra golds is not worth it

TheLichMonky

TheLichMonky

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Does it matter?

Im to good for guilds

Quote:
Originally Posted by w00t!
/notsigned

Req 8 15^50 Chaos Axe in FoW. About 250 picks there too....

Seems like GW:EN chests in NM give a higher percentage of grapes than other areas, but I guess that's just my luck...

So, because you get a good drop, makes this improving a bad idea? Kekeke

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

/unsigned because this would just feed the fire of bot farmers and chest running in hard mode. Sorry, but, you take your chances just like everyone else when you go chest farming or open locked chests. If you're SILLY enough to BUY keys then you deserve what you get. I only open locked chests if a KEY DROPS for me while I'm playing. Thus, I don't lose a dime and purples have some nice mods on them I can use. Everything doesn't have to be PERFECT to be useful or valuable. I sell tons of purples btw, so, it's not like everything has to be gold and perfect. Only greedy people want everything to be gold and easy in this game I see it in ohhhhh so many posts.

N E D M

N E D M

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Officer's Club

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

/signed for increased % of golds from chests requiring lockpick

Echuu Ishtar

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sacred Forge Knights (SFK)

/signed, but instead of all golds make regular tomes replace the grapes. At least they're still useful and you can get almost half your pick money back.

w00t!

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sorrow's Furnace Hot Tub

RoS

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLichMonky
So, because you get a good drop, makes this improving a bad idea? Kekeke
Yes.

Go study statistics. The point that I and others were making is that there is a small probability of a drop so good that it makes up for a significant number of bad drops. So don't expect to open a few chests and make money.

I buy my picks 40 at a time for 50p. That helps, making them only 1.25p per key. With breakage allowance they are less than 1p per key. Merchanting the bad items nets me about 250gp, so I'm only out about 750gp on a bad chest. Doesn't take much of a good item to pay for several chests. For example, a r9 zodiac spawning staff worth 75p that I got recently covers about 100 bad keys.

So in order to make keys worthwhile, you've got to:
1) Know which chests to open and which to not (Deep HM ftw, GW:EN NM ftl)
2) Open lots and lots of chests, auctioning off anything worth 5p or more.
3) Quit complaining and go open more chests.

thedeadlyassassin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tualatin OR

N/A

A/W

/not signed

Sure it sucks, but a garunteed good drop isn't what farming is about

william1975

william1975

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Dragons of Torment (DOA)

Me/

/not signed

not had any problems with this so far i tend to find majority of purples i get in HM dont break the pick, whereas majprity of golds do.

Also i dont get many purples anyway

terminus123

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

N/Me

/signed

errr.. those purple earthwands and divine focuses with req 13 ahhh!!!!!!!!

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by william1975
/not signed

not had any problems with this so far i tend to find majority of purples i get in HM dont break the pick, whereas majprity of golds do.

Also i dont get many purples anyway
You're lucky then, my pick always breaks and always spawns a purple.

I'm amazed at the number of people who don't agree with this. Fine, then increase the gold drops from hard mode chests. People go out there hoping for a gold to increase their wisdom title or something. Or like someone said, replace the purples with tomes. That would work just fine for me. Or if a purple has to drop, make it a perfect one or something. Just stop making it so that when the pick breaks it also spawns a purple so it's a waste of 1.5k. For what we pay for lockpicks they should at least spawn golds way more than they do. Even if they're not good stats, at least it helps toward a title.

Magnus_1

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/Me

/signed

The reason for the low gold drop rate is the farmers using bots. The rest of the player-base shouldn't be punished for what they are doing.

Of course, ANet could fix this by selling gold in their online store...

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnus_1
Of course, ANet could fix this by selling gold in their online store...
...but then you'd have way more people buying gold online, more inflation, and messing up the econemy, so that perfet chaos axe you just got in a chest would go for nothing

iriyabran

iriyabran

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

[Lord]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcane Moonshine
/signed for GW:EN only...drops from chests there really suck and you need a lockpick even in normal mode...


/notsigned for the rest of areas
so true
/signed for that

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

/notsigned ........

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

It happened again today...I had this:



And this is the result:



Wow, not even worth half the price of a lockpick. And so many are saying this doesn't need to be fixed? Unbelieveable...

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
It happened again today...I had this:



And this is the result:



Wow, not even worth half the price of a lockpick. And so many are saying this doesn't need to be fixed? Unbelieveable...
As has been stated many times over, chests are a gamble. The best way to get a decent payout is to open hundreds of chests at a time.

Anyway, if chest loot was set to always be a rare then the items you get would no longer be worth as much due to the sudden flood of rares.

pixiLated

pixiLated

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Resident Gutter Dweller

Shards of the Silver Moon [MooN]

E/

/notsigned

I have the game's lousiest luck with drops. Would I like to have a chance at better drops. Hell yeah!

But to reiterate what umpteen others have said before me, chests are a gold sink and a gamble. You don't like what you are getting? Stop gambling.

ValaOfTheFens

ValaOfTheFens

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Warrior Nation[WN]

I'd like to get gems or even just a big pile of crafting materials from a Locked Chest. In most cases I'd prefer 45 Bolts of Linen to some crappy grape. In extremely hard areas there should be a chance of getting 2 items.

/not signed for increasing golds in locked chests
/signed for increasing the variety of items in locked chests

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
It happened again today...I had this:



And this is the result:



Wow, not even worth half the price of a lockpick. And so many are saying this doesn't need to be fixed? Unbelieveable...
I'm so sorry that some of us aren't so short sighted as to only demand things that would benefit us, and are instead thinking for the community and economy as a whole.

w00t!

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sorrow's Furnace Hot Tub

RoS

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by ValaOfTheFens
I'd like to get gems or even just a big pile of crafting materials from a Locked Chest.
I'd like a Pony

A white pony with a candy-cane colored tail!

(though I like your idea of more variety and will /sign that one)

KlutzySpy

KlutzySpy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Denmark

Venatus Una

N/Rt

/signed for possibility of gems and x amount of rare material drops from chests

xxWarAngelxx

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sacred Trauma

W/

/signed

for locked chests, at least let it be a non-max gold. yes chest might be a gamble; however, HM is more chalenging; therefore, there should be a greater reward for playing it! the way things are, HM is not even worth playing because you are going to have your lockpick broken more often than not and you are going to get a purple more often than not.

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by xxWarAngelxx
/signed

for locked chests, at least let it be a non-max gold. yes chest might be a gamble; however, HM is more chalenging; therefore, there should be a greater reward for playing it! the way things are, HM is not even worth playing because you are going to have your lockpick broken more often than not and you are going to get a purple more often than not.
AGREED!

And again...at this rate I'll be Unlucky by 2008.



And here is the result:



Everyone else gets golds or even tomes, even if the pick breaks. Wow, I get white things and inscribed shards, Margonite tunics or masks, etc. Yeah, everyone really wants that stuff. If purples must drop, then they should be max with a low requirement so people will actually want to use or buy them.

Thy Shadow Stalker

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2007

New York

Absense of Light [AoL]

Rt/

the game needs a better economy period. if you want elite armor, then your gunna have to give up your life for a week and farm and get no drops at all. what I think needs to be cahnged is if your with a group of henches and heroes and a monster drops 104g, YOU get every snet of that drop and it doesnt dstribute to them.

J45kilo10

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

/signed

Def change the drops in HM, gold items should be the minimum you get in locked chests... not purple.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Not gold, but at least the base stasts should be max.

Not the req, nor the upgrades, but the base stats:
- Damage in weapons.
- Energy in focuses and staves.
- Armor in shields
- And spell recharge in staves.

Just that.

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thy Shadow Stalker
the game needs a better economy period. if you want elite armor, then your gunna have to give up your life for a week and farm and get no drops at all. what I think needs to be cahnged is if your with a group of henches and heroes and a monster drops 104g, YOU get every snet of that drop and it doesnt dstribute to them.
Agreed! It's not like the heroes are going to use the money for anything. More like you'd be using it for them to buy armor upgrades. Not everyone can farm. And not everyone wants a PUG like many people are suggesting that ANet is trying to make people do.

Also, about hard mode drops...Several times I've seen like 10 golds drop in one run for the same person while everyone else got either one or none. Same with purples. I think drops should be balanced more as well.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thy Shadow Stalker
the game needs a better economy period. if you want elite armor, then your gunna have to give up your life for a week and farm and get no drops at all. .
Oh noez, an MMORPG where it takes a whole week to get a set of elite armor.

NelZelpheer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

New Zealand

Krytan Fried Chicken [KFC]

Mo/

/signed


Opening a Locked Chest, breaking the pick and getting a paragon tome... come on!

Fox Mulder

Fox Mulder

Inde Censors Me

Join Date: Aug 2006

4 of us got a total of 3 gold & 11 purple. I've been saying the drops r crap & lockpicks cost too much for a long time. Maybe retain pick if purple, break if gold? Saw that suggestion in an earlier post.
3 golds were rod & wand low req, & staff req 12

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

Quote:
Originally Posted by NelZelpheer
/signed


Opening a Locked Chest, breaking the pick and getting a paragon tome... come on!
Thats just chance, just like this picture lol which my character is over a yr old.



BTW /notsigned

Legion Magnus

Legion Magnus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Legion Magnus

W/

/signed

Should all be gold (if only to help with Wisdom title). If purples are unavoidable (and nothing is, its software!) then the lockpick should never break when you get one.

Although I contend that ANet wants to force a dynamic economy and therefore this will never be instituted. They want people to keep spending gold on petroleum (umm, lockpicks).

Master Sword Keeper

Master Sword Keeper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dead Isle

Farmers Of Woe [FoW]

W/

Nothin grates my nerves more than using 1.5k and wasting that money just to get a purple worth 120g? Luck's got nothin to do with it. It's all code. Cold, hard, binary code.

Fix it or get out.

Kong

Kong

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

The chests are fine.

You don't want to break lockpicks? Increase your titles.
You don't want to get purples? Stop opening chest.

Tonis

Tonis

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

That place.

[BamF]

/notsigned
Ouchies on the grapes. But eventually you'll get a drop that makes you happy again.

Didn't even take this seriously, maybe if it was a "Keys don't break on grapes"
or something like that, i would have signed, but its just a gamble, take it, and hope for the best.

Wish Swiftdeath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/W

so start a new petition, lockpicks dont break on purples, its just a bloody waste of money atm

Drunkinmonkeys77

Drunkinmonkeys77

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Mo/Me

/signed

i completely agree with arcane

Master Sword Keeper

Master Sword Keeper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dead Isle

Farmers Of Woe [FoW]

W/

Yea i've noticed i've been gettin grapes lately too. What's goin on in there.

/signed for switchin out purples for normal tomes.

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

If the chest has to drop a purple it should at least be max with low requirements. Maybe not a perfect mod or inscription but you can find those. But they shouldn't be crappy and worth even less than what you paid for the lockpick. Even non-elite tomes are worth more.