Sigils

??Evan??

??Evan??

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tombs

In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP]/Ruthless Amazons [ego]

W/E

Dear Anet,

Please make sigils stackable.
I don't feel like selling them because I have a full storage and I don't feel like investing the money in something else because of the risk involved. I dont see any reason why they shouldn't be stackable so please do this. Also to increase the value of sigils you might want to consider guild hall upgrades being paid with in sigils instead of gold. I feel its a waste of my storage space to have 3/4 areas of it filled with just sigils.

Ty,
AMAZON

Bongo

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

London, UK

In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP]

Makes perfect sense, great ideas, totally agree! SECONDED

ty,
Bongo

Freaks

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

A/W

yea this way amazon can give me sigils all in one trade screen.

/signed
Freak E

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

[QUOTE]
Quote:
Originally Posted by ¿Evan¿
Dear Anet,

Please make sigils stackable.
I don't feel like selling them because I have a full storage and I don't feel like investing the money in something else because of the risk involved. I dont see any reason why they shouldn't be stackable so please do this.
they are not stackable to prevent hoarders like you from simply stacking them and creating an artificial shortage to frive the prices back up to the 50k-75k they got before Anet trippled the drop rate

no way sherlock just no way

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

[QUOTE=Loviatar]
Quote:

they are not stackable to prevent hoarders like you from simply stacking them and creating an artificial shortage to frive the prices back up to the 50k-75k they got before Anet trippled the drop rate

no way sherlock just no way
Bingo, runes and sigils and a few other things aren't stackable to prevent artificial inflation by people hoarding items (think about what happened in Everquest with apples).

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
they are not stackable to prevent hoarders like you from simply stacking them and creating an artificial shortage to frive the prices back up to the 50k-75k they got before Anet trippled the drop rate

no way sherlock just no way
What he said.

/notsigned

??Evan??

??Evan??

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tombs

In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP]/Ruthless Amazons [ego]

W/E

Sigils are far away from a shortage, anet should be concerned with how many sigils there are as of now rather than how many there wont be. This is why I wanted guild hall upgrades to also be bought with sigils so there will actually be a demand for them. Counting the no opposing parties, there are about 100 halls wins per day and about 3 sigils are dropped from the chest per win.
thats 300 sigils a day, I guarantee you there aren't 300 guilds changing guild halls every day.

Wish Swiftdeath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/W

/signed

it should cost alot to have these, its ridiculous how one weapon can cost more than AN ENTIRE GUILD HALL.

powerdrain

powerdrain

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Me/

sure why not /sign

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

[QUOTE]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wish Swiftdeath
/signed

it should cost alot to have these,
so only the wealhy should be able to afford a hall?

Quote:
its ridiculous how one weapon can cost more than AN ENTIRE GUILD HALL.
that is because morons are so barbie epeen willing to bid something up just so they can say *i have it and you dont*

a hall gives you a place to meet and Anet flushed out the hoarders by increasing the drop rate from 1 to 3

Reflected.

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

International District [id多]

Mo/

/signed
im in a similar situation like amazon in which half my storage is just sigils, having them stackable will save me SO much room cuz i really dont wanna sell them..

Kong

Kong

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Weapon mods, inscriptions, sigils,....

Almost everything other than weapons and armors should be stackable imo.

??Evan??

??Evan??

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tombs

In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP]/Ruthless Amazons [ego]

W/E

Just to get things straight the intention of this isn't to rise the price of sigils but to make them able to stack. People that want to keep sigils are already doing so but sacrificing room in the process, therefore sigils wont be "hoarded" any more than they already are.

Elentari

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

[Te]

W/

/signed.

I too have this problem... stackable sigils would help me get some room in my storage, and it would be very very much appreciated. I just wonder why no one came up with this suggestion earlier.

Dragonious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Hot Springs, AR

Dei Victorae [dV]

R/W

I wouldn't mind seeing this change. People who win Hall's too much deserve this because there isn't that much storage if you don't want to sell sigils at that time and place.

Messner

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Champaign, IL

Coloring Book [mad]

Stack em plx

JeniM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by ¿Evan¿
Just to get things straight the intention of this isn't to rise the price of sigils but to make them able to stack. People that want to keep sigils are already doing so but sacrificing room in the process, therefore sigils wont be "hoarded" any more than they already are.
At the moment theres a pratctical limit to the amount that can be kept (otherwise why are you posting)
If they become stackable there will be space for 20,000 just in storage. If anyone ever horded that many it would push trader price up and then they could sell for +100k each to start with

Wish Swiftdeath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/W

that is because morons are so barbie epeen willing to bid something up just so they can say *i have it and you dont*


ok fair enough, i still think a hall should cost at least 50k though, thats not alot for a whole guild.

On original topic, i dont see why not, theres plenty of sigils to go round since it drops 3 times as much so why not.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

You can sell sigils now at the sigil trader for praticially nothing if they are taking up all your storage and inconviencing you. Trust me, they won't be going up again in price anytime soon. If they are inconviencing you, you can sell them. If you don't want to sell them because you want to make more money off of them... tough luck, because that is your choice to do so.

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

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Can they change the amount of the stack? Personally, I think common crafting items should be 400/500 a stack anyway, but that's an argument for another thread.

Can they make it so you can only put 10 sigils in a stack, or is that fixed code so it's 250 or not at all?

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wish Swiftdeath
that is because morons are so barbie epeen willing to bid something up just so they can say *i have it and you dont*


ok fair enough, i still think a hall should cost at least 50k though, thats not alot for a whole guild.

On original topic, i dont see why not, theres plenty of sigils to go round since it drops 3 times as much so why not.
what about a few friends just starting?

this is to make halls available to us casual players not the 50k elitests.

and yes i have bought halls for 50k before the price drop

Quote:
On original topic, i dont see why not, theres plenty of sigils to go round since it drops 3 times as much so why not
because the original 75k sigels were the result of hoarding not shortage of sigels.

proof of this is as soon as it was announced people were selling 30 sigel lots on this site to get what they could before the bottom fell out.

give people sigel stacking and the supply drops to nothing to drive the prices back up.

the past hoarders simply prove it would happen again as they have no incentive to sell except Anet is making them sell or store them with limited storage

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by genofreek
Can they change the amount of the stack? Personally, I think common crafting items should be 400/500 a stack anyway, but that's an argument for another thread.

Can they make it so you can only put 10 sigils in a stack, or is that fixed code so it's 250 or not at all?
Speculation is that the reason stacks are 250 is because the largest number that can be stored in a single byte of data is 256, thus 250 was chosen as a nice round number to limit capacity needed to store data.

??Evan??

??Evan??

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tombs

In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP]/Ruthless Amazons [ego]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar

because the original 75k sigels were the result of hoarding not shortage of sigels.

proof of this is as soon as it was announced people were selling 30 sigel lots on this site to get what they could before the bottom fell out.

give people sigel stacking and the supply drops to nothing to drive the prices back up.

the past hoarders simply prove it would happen again as they have no incentive to sell except Anet is making them sell or store them with limited storage
No, the reason sigil prices were higher was because the demand was higher than the supply due to the game being new. Now that the game is established there are less sigils being needed which is making the price go down.

Snograt

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

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Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Speculation is that the reason stacks are 250 is because the largest number that can be stored in a single byte of data is 256, thus 250 was chosen as a nice round number to limit capacity needed to store data.
[pedantry] 255 actually - 1111 1111 binary, ie 8 bits/1 byte = 255 decimal. 256 would be 0001 0000 0000 binary, a nine-bit number. [/pedantry]

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by ¿Evan¿
No, the reason sigil prices were higher was because the demand was higher than the supply due to the game being new. Now that the game is established there are less sigils being needed which is making the price go down.
as i just stated the minute Anet announced the increased 3X drop rate they were selling them on this site 30 at a time not counting the ingame fire sale as hoarders dumped.

the prices were down below 40k before the increased drop rate had a chance to even get to market. (from 65k-75k)

the sigils were there but simply being held back.

as proven by the sudden price drop before the increase could have any effect

Reflected.

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

International District [id多]

Mo/

im pretty sure amazon just wants sigils to be stackable to conserve room, i dont think he wants to inflate the prices or anything...

pablo24

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snograt
[pedantry] 255 actually - 1111 1111 binary, ie 8 bits/1 byte = 255 decimal. 256 would be 0001 0000 0000 binary, a nine-bit number. [/pedantry]
you can store 256 different numbers if you count 0 in, that was the point

greenreaper3

greenreaper3

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

ign: Cytherea of Athens

We Made Mallyx Tap [Out]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kong
Weapon mods, inscriptions, sigils,....

Almost everything other than weapons and armors should be stackable imo.
would be kinda of hard fr stacks on weapon mod/inscrips

u will probally not need a stack for 15^50, 15^14 +29, +30, +28

i mean i doubt you will have more than 10 at a time

Sword

Sword

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mo/

lol @ all the nubs that still HA trying to make money for themselves

??Evan??

??Evan??

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tombs

In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP]/Ruthless Amazons [ego]

W/E

http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?i...gilmulete5.jpg

Still wasting character slots.....

Dragonious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Hot Springs, AR

Dei Victorae [dV]

R/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sword
lol @ all the nubs that still HA trying to make money for themselves
lol @ all the nubs who monked for legoway to get 15k fame and get rank 12

Messner

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Champaign, IL

Coloring Book [mad]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonious
lol @ all the nubs who monked for legoway to get 15k fame and get rank 12

lol @ the nub who can play fire ele, thumper or paragon and somehow got r12 ye ye yeeeee

super strokey

super strokey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Soviet Canuckistan

N/

Ive played for a long time but never ever really took the time to learn sbout sigils... so um yeah what are they?

EDIT

NM i just looked it up. I wanna try and farm one just to get one lol

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ¿Evan¿
And again. You could sell them right now at the sigil trader to get rid of them. But instead you want to be greedy and hold out for a price increase to make more profit. If you are truely a die hard PvPer, then the money doesn't mean anything to you.

Spazzer

Spazzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

USA

Team Asshat [Hat]

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by ¿Evan¿
I don't feel like investing the money in something else because of the risk involved.
What?

Buy Battle Commendations and Monastery Credits for 100g ea.
Buy Imperial Commendations, Luxon Totems, Equipment Requisitions, Kournan Coins, Ancient Artifacts, and Inscribed Secrets for 200g ea.

There's no risk.

Not every investment has to be into crafting materials.

??Evan??

??Evan??

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tombs

In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP]/Ruthless Amazons [ego]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spazzer
What?

Buy Battle Commendations and Monastery Credits for 100g ea.
Buy Imperial Commendations, Luxon Totems, Equipment Requisitions, Kournan Coins, Ancient Artifacts, and Inscribed Secrets for 200g ea.

There's no risk.

Not every investment has to be into crafting materials.
Purpose of this is to make space. Investing into things that would amount to about a sigil per stack wouldn't save any space at all

Messner

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Champaign, IL

Coloring Book [mad]

Edit by Silly- Stop flaming, consistent flaming will result in a permaban.

Thanks Messner!

Nomme Moon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Having them stackable would certainly give me more incentive to actually keep them instead of trying to get rid of them so soon to conserve space...

Uber Mass

Uber Mass

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Netherlands

retired from gw [agro] still ftw

W/

/signed everything that helps storage room has my vote

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ¿Evan¿
Dear Anet,

Please make sigils stackable.
I don't feel like selling them because I have a full storage and I don't feel like investing the money in something else because of the risk involved. I dont see any reason why they shouldn't be stackable so please do this. Also to increase the value of sigils you might want to consider guild hall upgrades being paid with in sigils instead of gold. I feel its a waste of my storage space to have 3/4 areas of it filled with just sigils.

Ty,
AMAZON
the only reason you want this is because you want more money,

as in increase amount of sigils that can be saved,then raise prices.....

needs of many outweigh the needs of few, and since guilds area nice part of the game(social,help etc.) they need to be obtainable, 22k aint bad for a sigil.

~Solas