Sigils
pumpkin pie
because I don't have Sigil,
??Evan??
I guess posting this in a pve forum where the majority of people haven't even been to heroes ascent before yet alone won a sigil before was a bad idea. If you don't have sigils this really has nothing to do with you.
HawkofStorms
*tisk tisk tisk*
You aren't a serious PvPer either if you care about gold.
You aren't a serious PvPer either if you care about gold.
Martin Alvito
The problem with stackable sigils is the same problem with stackable Armbraces - it makes it possible to convey huge amounts of wealth in a single trade, which in turn vastly increases the prices of super-rare items.
Stackable sigils would simply create another form of highly valuable stackable currency, and we don't need that at the moment.
Stackable sigils would simply create another form of highly valuable stackable currency, and we don't need that at the moment.
Cloud5646
[QUOTE=HawkofStorms]
Ever heard of mule characters?
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Originally Posted by Loviatar
Bingo, runes and sigils and a few other things aren't stackable to prevent artificial inflation by people hoarding items (think about what happened in Everquest with apples). |
HawkofStorms
[QUOTE=Cloud5646]
Lets see.. using mules to store... 50 sigils. Or using a mule (with stackable sigils) to store...12,500.
Think before you post please.
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Ever heard of mule characters? |
Think before you post please.
??Evan??
If I wanted to stack sigils by the thousands I would buy character slots and do so, I just want to be able to have storage space so I can actually store things without having to delete items.
HawkofStorms
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Originally Posted by ¿Evan¿
If I wanted to stack sigils by the thousands I would buy character slots and do so, I just want to be able to have storage space so I can actually store things without having to delete items.
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You have yet to present a valid arguement as to why you can't just get rid of them already.
I'm beginining to suspect this is merely a troll thread.
anonymous
Just sell them all to the sigil trader if you need space.... Why do you need 100+ sigils anyway? Changing your guild hall after every match?
??Evan??
Bump, this is something I want to see happen.
RedStar
lol.
/signed
But may I ask why you want to keep them if you are not going to do anything with them ?
/signed
But may I ask why you want to keep them if you are not going to do anything with them ?
Hailey Anne
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Originally Posted by Wish Swiftdeath
ok fair enough, i still think a hall should cost at least 50k though, thats not alot for a whole guild. |
the hall itself may not be that much but to fill it costs 510k.
So about 530k total for hall.
??Evan??
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Originally Posted by RedStar
lol.
/signed But may I ask why you want to keep them if you are not going to do anything with them ? |
??Evan??
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Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
If you think about it they do.
the hall itself may not be that much but to fill it costs 510k. So about 530k total for hall. |
noneedforclevernames
I am going to make a strong arguement against your topic here since your complaining about storage space and started your post off with the expression "I dont feel like selling them."
Well, maybe sigils are not stackable for a reason? Maybe they are not stackable so they take up more storage space and urge people to trade them? Maybe they want you trading so people quit complaining that Guild Wars lacks an economy? Maybe, just maybe, they are not stackable to maybe limit the number of items in your storage by making you sell more? It's not like sigils are as common as Wood Planks, it would probably take no more than an hour to sell 10 of them. So I don't see why this is necessary.
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Well, maybe sigils are not stackable for a reason? Maybe they are not stackable so they take up more storage space and urge people to trade them? Maybe they want you trading so people quit complaining that Guild Wars lacks an economy? Maybe, just maybe, they are not stackable to maybe limit the number of items in your storage by making you sell more? It's not like sigils are as common as Wood Planks, it would probably take no more than an hour to sell 10 of them. So I don't see why this is necessary.
/not signed
MithranArkanere
They have a trader. There is no need to store them.
I could agree that they could be also a very rare drop from final bosses and mid-bosses (Lich, Undead Rurik, Kuunavang, Glint, Shiro, Varesh, etc) since not all guilds are PvP and traders should be a fast alternate way to get items, not the only way to get them.
But there is no need to stack them since they already have a way to 'store' them: the trader.
I could agree that they could be also a very rare drop from final bosses and mid-bosses (Lich, Undead Rurik, Kuunavang, Glint, Shiro, Varesh, etc) since not all guilds are PvP and traders should be a fast alternate way to get items, not the only way to get them.
But there is no need to stack them since they already have a way to 'store' them: the trader.
??Evan??
Thread revival to prove a point
newbie_of_doom
/agree
/sign
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/sign
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bursta91
/signed. I'd rather not delete shields and 40/40for halls drops.
And no I'm not gonna buy belt pouch for pvp toon
And no I'm not gonna buy belt pouch for pvp toon
Enon
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Originally Posted by bursta91
/signed. I'd rather not delete shields and 40/40for halls drops.
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Not signed, since making them stackable has no valid purpose.
Abedeus
Jesus Christ, let it die.
Stacking makes no sense.
Stacking makes no sense.
??Evan??
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Jesus Christ, let it die.
Stacking makes no sense. |
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Originally Posted by Enon
Then sell the sigils, silly.
Not signed, since making them stackable has no valid purpose. |
Konig Des Todes
What do you do with them? Easy, give them away. Trash them. If you have 1 million in cash, you need a life or stop eBaying money.
Linsey Murdock stated why Runes are non-stacking in the storage, I assume it's the same reason for sigil. That is, to prevent hording and therefore increasing prices of the item which then means the horders get lots of money.
Stop hording horder.
Linsey Murdock stated why Runes are non-stacking in the storage, I assume it's the same reason for sigil. That is, to prevent hording and therefore increasing prices of the item which then means the horders get lots of money.
Stop hording horder.
blackknight1337
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Originally Posted by ¿Evan¿
How does it not make sense/have no purpose when I have 50+ sigils sitting on my characters/storage taking up space? I can't sell them because of max storage. What do I do with them? Also I don't feel like buying bags for my pvp characters when sigils take up all the room holding halls and I have to start deleting items I win.
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And if you come back complaining about how your storage is crammed full of zkeys, then you will probably get laughed off the board.
Stupid Shizno
hi amazon!
but yea totally /sign this
this will allow me to save more then just giving them away for free to newbie guilds in ascalon
but yea totally /sign this
this will allow me to save more then just giving them away for free to newbie guilds in ascalon
??Evan??
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Originally Posted by Stupid Shizno
hi amazon!
but yea totally /sign this this will allow me to save more then just giving them away for free to newbie guilds in ascalon |
Zenos Squad
/not signed because you should sell your sigils
Elentari
It would make sense to make them stackable, it's taking up room for a lot of people and there's surely no reason for people to oppose having more inventory/storage room?
Klem Da Aussie
/ signed got 1 full chara of sigils + 1 storage slot :P
Empress Amarox
Sigils should stack.
??Evan??
think its time for a bump
Bright Star Shine
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Originally Posted by Wish Swiftdeath
that is because morons are so barbie epeen willing to bid something up just so they can say *i have it and you dont*
ok fair enough, i still think a hall should cost at least 50k though, thats not alot for a whole guild. On original topic, i dont see why not, theres plenty of sigils to go round since it drops 3 times as much so why not. |
Ok, on topic now, I don't think they should be stackable, they aren't for a reason, and that's to prevent hoarders from hoarding too much. As far as I can read it, you hoarders are probably looking at ~100 sigils each, if not way more. So, making 'em stackable will only make it worse, and indeed cause people to stick to em like MMORPG addicts to their game.
So, \unsigned
Guardian of the Light
heh, anyone remember the old days where sigils cost around 100K? Man prices dropped fast when new guilds stopped being created.
Anyways I disagree for reasons already stated, your trying to horde an item that doesn't need to be horded, put it into the economy and put your money into something else. You only need 1 sigil if your trying to use it properly so stacking isn't needed.
Anyways I disagree for reasons already stated, your trying to horde an item that doesn't need to be horded, put it into the economy and put your money into something else. You only need 1 sigil if your trying to use it properly so stacking isn't needed.
NerfHerder
For once I agree with Bright Star. 
/notsigned
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diabiosx
/signed I want money through artificial shortage!!
Hell if anything this is actually good for the game since sigil is the only thing that can not be farmed with bots. All these people not signing this is probably running a business selling ectos for real life cash and would hate to see sigils being another currency sink which would devalue their business
sigil hoarders>ecto hoarders. This leads to less bots GG. And this can actually lead more players to PvP as their endgame due sigil price inflation(powerful currency/money/epeen is a huge motivation for playing).
Hell if anything this is actually good for the game since sigil is the only thing that can not be farmed with bots. All these people not signing this is probably running a business selling ectos for real life cash and would hate to see sigils being another currency sink which would devalue their business
sigil hoarders>ecto hoarders. This leads to less bots GG. And this can actually lead more players to PvP as their endgame due sigil price inflation(powerful currency/money/epeen is a huge motivation for playing).
Zenzai
You only get one guild or membership in one guild at a time. There really is no reason to hold on to more than one at a time. The only thing I see coming out of this is another pseudo-currency we don't need.
/not signed.
/not signed.
Coast
Signed, stop bitching about rising prices.
I don't care.
I don't care.
MithranArkanere
This item is meant to be either used or sold.
There's absolutely no valid reason to keep more than one, so it's fine as it is.
There's absolutely no valid reason to keep more than one, so it's fine as it is.
Coast
That can be said about every item, so ur point is invalid.
MithranArkanere
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That can be said about every item, so ur point is invalid.
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For example, with materials you will need more than one, and you'll need to save them over time while you gather them.
It's literally impossible to have 350 unstacked leather when we only have 45 inventory slots in our bags. You NEED to stack those.
To try out dye combinations before buying it, you need at least 3 of each, and having them unstacked would be greatly unpractical.
Trophies? You need to gather at least 5 most of the time, and in some cases 250 of them. How can you keep 250 if you don't stack them?
Consumables, summoning stones, scrolls, Sweets, Party items, booze?? If you plan on using them, you are probably either getting a title or keeping them for their usefulness, and since you'll probably carry more than one of each, it would be insane to have them unstacked.
But you can't have more than one Guild Hall, and you are not supposed to change halls often. So, once you get your hall, you sell the rest to the trader, so those that can't or won't play HA can get one too.
So what can be the reason to made them stackable other than hoarding and speculation?
Winning Streaks in HA so you need to store them before selling them? No, there's a Sigil trader in the HA outpost.
Keeping them all to change you guild hall every so often? Keeping the trader supplied is way more important.
I can't think of any other reason. Can you?