With the amount of people dying in internet cafes (granted it's not that many but they are still dying from playing a computer game) from playing MMOs for an insane number of hours, I'd say quite a few.
I'd say about half the people I trade with are Chinese as well.
我很愤怒!I very anger
Kattar
ValaOfTheFens
Wow. I hope ANet gives the Chinese players rollbacks. I've never heard of a security breach this huge.
Kusandaa
That's pretty bad >_<. Hope they'll be fixed soon... I know I'd hate facing such a problem.
I had stopped following the previous case with The9... thought I'd ask what had been the outcome with the previous incident. Don't think it was mentionned in this thread o.o
I had stopped following the previous case with The9... thought I'd ask what had been the outcome with the previous incident. Don't think it was mentionned in this thread o.o
lyra_song
But Guild Wars China is operated by The9 Limited.
I repeat so you can read it clearly.
Guild Wars China is operated by The9 Limited.
They have a 3 year license to operate Guild Wars services in China. Not NCSoft or ArenaNet.
Everyone please stop blaming Anet or NCsoft.
I repeat so you can read it clearly.
Guild Wars China is operated by The9 Limited.
They have a 3 year license to operate Guild Wars services in China. Not NCSoft or ArenaNet.
Everyone please stop blaming Anet or NCsoft.
John Ebridge
It looks to me like a contractual/legal dispute between NCSoft/ANet and The 9 (the company that runs GW in China). As a result of that the servers were closed. After emergency talks, a preliminary agreement was reached. Resulting in opening the GW servers again (only for selected campaigns). Here something went horribly wrong because no passwords were needed to logon. As a result of that, characters were raided of items and in some cases deleted.
Disclaimer: this is pure speculation on my part as I have no hard facts, but after reading what little is known, this is what I can deduce.
Disclaimer: this is pure speculation on my part as I have no hard facts, but after reading what little is known, this is what I can deduce.
Saphrium
Yeah, the9 is basically crap, I think they leaked the server codes under the hood.
klrk
I guess the stupid 9city is a lousy China GuildWars' distributer and they must have pissed Anet ,somehow . Period.
Snow Bunny
It'd be interesting if this made the news...
stretchs
This has been an ongoing story here for a while, if you recall about 6 mos ago there was another story similar to this about The9 that was causing a ruckus. The9 is hosting the servers FOR NCSOFT, so in essence it is an issue that you can send a support ticket into NCSOFT.
Shadowfox1125
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With the amount of people dying in internet cafes (granted it's not that many but they are still dying from playing a computer game) from playing MMOs for an insane number of hours, I'd say quite a few.
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Inde
Shadowfox, that was specifically Blizzard that did that with WoW. I believe it was 3 hours at a time. Not sure if that extended to all games.
lyra_song
Inde:
http://www.joystiq.com/2005/08/24/ch...it-on-mmorpgs/
This article was dated 2005, i dont know if its fully implemented or enforced.
edit: then again one of the reasons such things exist is because MMORPGamers can talk freely and we all know how the Chinese government doesnt like that.
http://www.joystiq.com/2005/08/24/ch...it-on-mmorpgs/
This article was dated 2005, i dont know if its fully implemented or enforced.
edit: then again one of the reasons such things exist is because MMORPGamers can talk freely and we all know how the Chinese government doesnt like that.
IslandHermet
This could be a attempt from Anet to shut down or end the China Gold farming. that justwent really wrong or since it is china they could have had a minor disagrement with Anet which happend it is china and they have some of the worst government restrictions like deleting bloggers post because they are speaking their minds civilian freedoms are limited in china.
the law is mostly the reason for all the problem between Anet and China or since it is China and has some of the best hackers they could have hacked the crap outa the 9th city servers.
A roll back or server reset would fix this hopefuly but they need to find out how this happend and why before they roll back or do a reset because if it happend once it can happen again.
the law is mostly the reason for all the problem between Anet and China or since it is China and has some of the best hackers they could have hacked the crap outa the 9th city servers.
A roll back or server reset would fix this hopefuly but they need to find out how this happend and why before they roll back or do a reset because if it happend once it can happen again.
Inde
Not to go off-topic but GW not specifically being an MMORPG I wonder if it still applies? Regardless, hopefully our Chinese friends will be able to update us on the situation.
lyra_song
lets stop speculating please without more news. (me included!)
makosi
I'm having difficult understanding exactly what's happening. I know it's asking a lot but can anybody put this in to simple terms for my simple mind?
From what I gather, a technical issue resulted in people's accounts being accessible without a password - on a national scale?
Sorry in advance. I'm having a retarded day.
By clicking the link to the chinese forum, the pissed of animé cartoons tell me its a nasty sitatuation.
From what I gather, a technical issue resulted in people's accounts being accessible without a password - on a national scale?
Sorry in advance. I'm having a retarded day.
By clicking the link to the chinese forum, the pissed of animé cartoons tell me its a nasty sitatuation.
Malice Black
Didn't a thread like this pop up a few months ago?
RTSFirebat
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Yeah, the9 is basically crap, I think they leaked the server codes under the hood.
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Alexandra-Sweet
All those poor rare Pandas that got lost...
But ehh, on-topic:
I really hope Arena Net does something about this and try to prevent it in the future.
But ehh, on-topic:
I really hope Arena Net does something about this and try to prevent it in the future.
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Weather ANET runs the server or not... it still affect them and they should have some information about the event... they might not be at fault directly, but it is still their copywrited property being used and loaned out... its probably The 9's own fault and a security issue... but in turn, ANET must have some information about it. And if accounts in those area's are effected... I am sorry, but I want to know that my account is safe...
Blonde Warrior
Its not Anet that manages the servers is it? I thought it was NCSOFT
Saphrium
No, Anet and NCsoft are the licensers.
Operations in China is exclusively run by the9 and also is which should be responsible for all damages.
Operations in China is exclusively run by the9 and also is which should be responsible for all damages.
chinagw
Original level the server now has been restored, but the equipment losing/ steal and prop do not recover.
现在服务器恢复了原有的水平,但是丢失/盗窃的装备和道具都没有恢复.
现在服务器恢复了原有的水平,但是丢失/盗窃的装备和道具都没有恢复.
Bryant Again
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Didn't a thread like this pop up a few months ago?
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gameguy
ANet "Good Job" 
Test Guildwar over one year,and delete the data.The Player in Other Region can't play Free Guildwar over one year。
player come from Taiwan(country on earth)
Test Guildwar over one year,and delete the data.The Player in Other Region can't play Free Guildwar over one year。
player come from Taiwan(country on earth)
arsie
Well, I am assuming that the server software run in China is the same design as the ones run in Europe or America.
So if it is breached, who knows whether we'll be next.
Regardless of which company runs the servers, Anet designed it. If it is not rectified and properly rolled back, I am not sure I'll be confident about the American server's integrity either.
So if it is breached, who knows whether we'll be next.
Regardless of which company runs the servers, Anet designed it. If it is not rectified and properly rolled back, I am not sure I'll be confident about the American server's integrity either.
Saphrium
Anet might lack experience in terms of MMO cultures, but I am not worried about Anet's technical expertise.
Shadow Longstem
man this is fked up, hope the gw players in china get there shiz bak
Alexandra-Sweet
If the items spread to American and European servers, will those have to be rerolled aswell? Meh... and I just managed to sell my Gothic Sword...
chinagw
Although being a little equipment and the money loss, make we very perplexed. Always make not good enough ... in China , to playing with a reparation .
Not only being equipment and money,some play the account number having deleted ... also together PVE and PVP
虽然是一些装备和金钱的损失,但是令我们很困惑.在中国,对于玩家赔偿一直做得不够好....
不仅仅是装备和金钱,一些玩家的帐号也一同删除了...PVE and PVP
Not only being equipment and money,some play the account number having deleted ... also together PVE and PVP
虽然是一些装备和金钱的损失,但是令我们很困惑.在中国,对于玩家赔偿一直做得不够好....
不仅仅是装备和金钱,一些玩家的帐号也一同删除了...PVE and PVP
I Will Avenge You
Holy crap;............ that's pretty bad
chinagw
This is 9 cities management tactics , such feasible tactics Chinese fierce battle becomes so too fat...
FOR THE WOW(WOW-TBC)....
Purchase all MMO , restrict development of them
FOR THE WOW(WOW-TBC)....
Purchase all MMO , restrict development of them
undeadgun
heh, just done reading on chinese offical GW forum, many many many people are upset by the 9, and i have to say, it is not related to Anet nor NC soft, it is all about The 9, i think they are the worest company in the world, the official website havent been update since augest! And yes, many player now can login to GW, but their charactor, armor and money were either deleted or stolen. i think what should Anet or NC soft do is reconcidering the partner, just dont choose The9 again please!我的中国同胞们，不要放弃，我身在国外，但我能体会到你们是真正热爱激战的人！！！！
Kapt Krunch
Wow am i Glad i live in the good ol' USA!!!
Saphrium
The9 can not handle GW, GW is a tech-oriented game, requires higher technical competence than those in other MMOs.
Just look at some technical papers analyzing GW's tech, dynamic network re-routing, server to server profile transfer, prediction, distributed grid servers.
Anet needs a company who has the expertise and infrastructure to cope with their elegance in technology.
Just look at some technical papers analyzing GW's tech, dynamic network re-routing, server to server profile transfer, prediction, distributed grid servers.
Anet needs a company who has the expertise and infrastructure to cope with their elegance in technology.
Lasareth
Anet does represent Guild Wars though, and their decision (or NCsoft's, I've got no clue there) to give the server control to this group reflects on their judgement whether they like it or not. So I'd say they still share part of the responsibility by association.
Not much of it though.
Not much of it though.
chinagw
呵呵....thankyou undeadgun...
中国大陆有几个工会最近在国际服上玩 GVG,但国际封锁IP很严重...中国帐号被封章节几率非常高，我们也想购买正版的卡号,但正版卡号所处 的IP在中国大陆就要被封,也令我们很困惑...
被封的几率太高了...
大多都是购买PVP章节,如果要刷钱,,,PVP章节能去pve刷钱么?现在又买不了pvp章节逼我们去买 pve章节...真是走到绝境了...我们很想放弃了..
中国大陆这样的环境...国外又封杀IP...今天这样一来，我的二个号和装备金钱都被洗了...没想法了 ...
中国大陆有几个工会最近在国际服上玩 GVG,但国际封锁IP很严重...中国帐号被封章节几率非常高，我们也想购买正版的卡号,但正版卡号所处 的IP在中国大陆就要被封,也令我们很困惑...
被封的几率太高了...
大多都是购买PVP章节,如果要刷钱,,,PVP章节能去pve刷钱么?现在又买不了pvp章节逼我们去买 pve章节...真是走到绝境了...我们很想放弃了..
中国大陆这样的环境...国外又封杀IP...今天这样一来，我的二个号和装备金钱都被洗了...没想法了 ...
chinagw
我们只想好好玩下gw!!!!!!!!!!
We want to play gw down well only! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
We want to play gw down well only! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
arrowofthewood
why the heck would they do that!? O_O calls for G Gray
chinagw