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Originally Posted by william1975
if it becomes available another way it would be somewhat disrespectful to those that made the necessary purchases through the store to get this.
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BMP sell seperate petition.
Jongo River
Arcane Moonshine
/not signed
what would have been the point of forcing players to buy in the online store? oO
what would have been the point of forcing players to buy in the online store? oO
~ Dan ~
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Originally Posted by Drop of Fear
for 3 months there was a HUGE banner at the loging screen shouting BONUS MISSION PACK PROMOTION
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william1975
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Originally Posted by Jongo River
No it isn't. Like me, you got the pack for free. For ANet to sell it or re-run the offer in the future would not be disrespectful of anyone. It's what any rational person would expect them to do.
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It helps for you to criticise my point if you actually read it. I have not said that Anet should not rerun the offer, I said they should not offer the pack another way. The OP is askign for the pack to be sold seperatly or in stores.
that is not a rerun of the offer. I see no harm in rerunning the actual offer at soem point, that would not help the OP though as yo would still need to buy $30 worrth of product from the online store and those that can't do that still won't be able to.
the conception of getting soemthing for free means that you don't have to do anything to get it. I certainly don't see the BMP as a free giveaway. If it had been then everyone playing the game would have got one. It an incentive, rather than a freebie. we do somethign for them and they do somethign for us, with a cherry on top to entice us to do it, where we normally wouldn't.
The second some one says to you that they got something for free, and all they had to do was such and such a thing then you know they didn't get it for free.
A father tells his oldest son he will get £10 for mowing the lawn, then gives his youngest son £10 for doing nothing. When both talk later the eldest will certainly be upset and annyed that the father has doen such a thing. Why should he have to mow the lawn to get £10 when his brother did nothing.
Anyone who bought GW:EN online shoudl be uspet if they found out the the BMP would be available seperatly or through another method. GW:EN can be bought much cheaper from a shop than from the online store. Some bought character slots just to get the BMP, would they have done so if they could have got the BMP much cheaper? I don't think so. I think many who have went out of their way to get this BMP through the offer would feel Anet was being disrespectful to them if they offered the BMP through alternative means.
Jongo River
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Originally Posted by william1975
A father tells his oldest son he will get £10 for mowing the lawn, then gives his youngest son £10 for doing nothing. When both talk later the eldest will certainly be upset and annyed that the father has doen such a thing. Why should he have to mow the lawn to get £10 when his brother did nothing.
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Nobody is saying that people should get the pack for nothing (well, I think a couple of idiots have tried to suggest that, but it's obviously unreasonable).
When you buy something, even participate in a promotion, there's no guarantee that a better deal won't surface later. Most people realise this when they make a purchase. None of you have any right to hold ANet to a commitment they never made.
Vl Vl D
/no sign
Would people that have divine aura /sign for it to be sold? The only thing left for some of you is to watch your guildies talk about how great the bmp.On that note it would be great to see how many people would say bmp is mudd after they whined how crap Gwen was and how they should get this for free.
Would people that have divine aura /sign for it to be sold? The only thing left for some of you is to watch your guildies talk about how great the bmp.On that note it would be great to see how many people would say bmp is mudd after they whined how crap Gwen was and how they should get this for free.
Lonesamurai
/notsigned...
sounds selfish, but i got it, job done
sounds selfish, but i got it, job done
Jongo River
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Originally Posted by Vl Vl D
Would people that have divine aura /sign for it to be sold?
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Even so, I have the aura and would indeed sign, but I wouldn't expect anything to come of it.
crazy diamond
I have the aura and hell if it were ever made available for purchase. My ego isn't big enough to tolerate it.
lucifer_uk
/not signed
It was a bonus for those of us who purchased from the online store. Lets keep it that way.
Let other people who didn't want to use the online store have it for say £3 when Guild Wars 2 is out.
It was a bonus for those of us who purchased from the online store. Lets keep it that way.
Let other people who didn't want to use the online store have it for say £3 when Guild Wars 2 is out.
Davros Uitar
/not signed - silly idea. If you wanted it bad enough you would have gone the way many other people did. If you sat back and hoped that a little pressure at the right would change Anet's mind then you deserve to miss out.
Whether it was a good policy on Anet's part or not - you can't disenfranchise those that signed up for the contract because others want a late change to the policy to get it too. What's done is done and that bridge has been burnt.
Move along - nothing to see here.
Whether it was a good policy on Anet's part or not - you can't disenfranchise those that signed up for the contract because others want a late change to the policy to get it too. What's done is done and that bridge has been burnt.
Move along - nothing to see here.
Drop of Fear
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Originally Posted by Jongo River
No it isn't. Like me, you got the pack for free. For ANet to sell it or re-run the offer in the future would not be disrespectful of anyone. It's what any rational person would expect them to do.
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FOR FREEE???? the price payed for BMP has been 8euro and 1 boxed version i DONT HAVE (and many ppl like me). many ppl bought slots they had no need or use for PAYING ONLY TO HAVE THE BMP.
it's pretty easy to understand...
crazy diamond
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Originally Posted by Drop of Fear
i feel the need to state it again...
FOR FREEE???? the price payed for BMP has been 8euro and 1 boxed version i DONT HAVE (and many ppl like me). many ppl bought slots they had no need or use for PAYING ONLY TO HAVE THE BMP. it's pretty easy to understand... |
Cargan
[QUOTE=SirJackassIII]
You can use debit cards to purchase from the online store. I don't know where you got the idea that it's only credit cards.
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Originally Posted by Loviatar
Actually, we have debit cards. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debit_card Which are actually more widespread throughout Europe and unlike CC, they're free to use. So really, unless you're a European who travels a lot or buys a lot of things off the Internet, a CC is useless. And even if you do buy from the Internet, a lot of online stores do accept Debit Cards. Also, the governement has nothing on CC by my count, but Debit cards are pretty much encouraged to use by both merchants (lower fees than CC) and buyers (No cost to use it). And technically, Belgium hasn't got a governement at the moment to blame (for this anyway ).We can get CCs, it's just that getting them would mean we'd have to start paying for them, while having a better alternative at hand. So really, what all us Europeans should have done is get a CC, only to use it once in Anet's Online Store? Oh yeah, that's a great solution... |
william1975
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Was his younger son hyperactive and found doing nothing very difficult?
Nobody is saying that people should get the pack for nothing (well, I think a couple of idiots have tried to suggest that, but it's obviously unreasonable). When you buy something, even participate in a promotion, there's no guarantee that a better deal won't surface later. Most people realise this when they make a purchase. None of you have any right to hold ANet to a commitment they never made. |
lol well i know some folk find it difficult to do nothing
I totally agree that there is no guarantee that it wont be offered in some other way, and im not sure if Gaile has ever said it wont be offered again
However I do think people have a right to feel upset if it is offered in some cheaper way
In my opinion I think if Anet were to offer it online in the sotre for £17 as it was i the offer that would be fair. though I know I wouln't buy it at that price
CyberMesh0
/NOTSIGNED
Anet just won't do it, no matter how many people beat the dead horse. The only excuse anyone has is if the ingame store screwed them over and didn't accept their card. No other reason is acceptable.
Anet just won't do it, no matter how many people beat the dead horse. The only excuse anyone has is if the ingame store screwed them over and didn't accept their card. No other reason is acceptable.
crazy diamond
I think the only way to make both sides happy would be to make it available to purchase, and give the people who got it along with the offer something else that only they would have.
Then we can have this whole dilema all over again over the new stuff people wont have.
Then we can have this whole dilema all over again over the new stuff people wont have.
Solas
/signed
if they made it spend €40 in online shop but had it a long term thing( nearly twice the origional amount) then it would be more or less the same..as i was expecting SMS payment before the offer ended but it wasn't delivered-.-
and im not allowed use credit cards prepaid or other
if they made it spend €40 in online shop but had it a long term thing( nearly twice the origional amount) then it would be more or less the same..as i was expecting SMS payment before the offer ended but it wasn't delivered-.-
and im not allowed use credit cards prepaid or other
william1975
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Originally Posted by crazy diamond
give the people who got it along with the offer something else that only they would have.
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Clone
/signed
I'm getting pretty sick of this "I got it free with GW:EN so YOU CAN'T HAVE IT!" mentality. I bought GW:EN on the online store. Do I want to deny content to people who want to pay extra for it? Hell no. There are way too many elitist pricks online now.
Look, Anet will have screwed up either way this plays out. If they do offer the content to be bought separately, some people who bought GW:EN online will bitch and moan. If they don't, some people will bitch and moan. Some people like to pay cash for a hardcopy of their game from a brick and mortar store. I don't see anything wrong with that. If they want to go out later and pay more online for a bonus pack, let 'em.
I'm getting pretty sick of this "I got it free with GW:EN so YOU CAN'T HAVE IT!" mentality. I bought GW:EN on the online store. Do I want to deny content to people who want to pay extra for it? Hell no. There are way too many elitist pricks online now.
Look, Anet will have screwed up either way this plays out. If they do offer the content to be bought separately, some people who bought GW:EN online will bitch and moan. If they don't, some people will bitch and moan. Some people like to pay cash for a hardcopy of their game from a brick and mortar store. I don't see anything wrong with that. If they want to go out later and pay more online for a bonus pack, let 'em.
Mork from Ork
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Originally Posted by crazy diamond
I like to think of the BMP as my actual purchase and all the character slots to be free. You must be a glass is half empty kinda guy.
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The truth is, many wound up buying 30.00 of stuff they did not want and could not use in order to get the pack. It's refreshing to see someone regard that 30.00 purchase to be the bonus they got with the BMP - most are going to feel cheated if every one else gets it for 5 bucks.
I did not buy because I did not like how they handled the whole promotion to begin with but I will ....
/sign
but only with the provision that it cost $30.00 and is sold in places other than the online store (which was the major problem in the first place)
(As a side note - I strongly suspect they have always had every intention of offering this separately after the promotion. This was a try-out of the online store and any content from this point on will be standalone purchasable units sold through the online store only. I believe this was their way of transitioning from box copies to strictly electronic ones. So for those of you who are upset that they might offer it by itself - get over it. It's gonna happen. And for those of us who did not buy because we do not like the way the online store works - tough luck - I bet that's the only way they distribute any content between now and GW2)
Dev121
/Signed
If you already got it dont be selfish and try to prevent others from it. Also to everyone moaning about GW:EN, you didnt have to buy it so grow up.
If they released it I'd probably buy it because it wouldnt be a issue but buying it online is so it would be better. I doubt it will happen but you can hope I guess...
If you already got it dont be selfish and try to prevent others from it. Also to everyone moaning about GW:EN, you didnt have to buy it so grow up.
If they released it I'd probably buy it because it wouldnt be a issue but buying it online is so it would be better. I doubt it will happen but you can hope I guess...
Dev121
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i feel the need to state it again...
FOR FREEE???? the price payed for BMP has been 8euro and 1 boxed version i DONT HAVE (and many ppl like me). many ppl bought slots they had no need or use for PAYING ONLY TO HAVE THE BMP. it's pretty easy to understand... |
Str0b0
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Sorry I don't see the point in allowing for shiftless people with no plastic. This is an obvious marketing ploy just think about it. If A Net sells in a brick and mortar store they pay for the CD manufacturing and the packaging and the shipping. All of that comes out of their profit. If they sell in the online store they have only the overhead of actually making the code to consider so yeah they are going to give people incentives to buy from the online store and I don't think that those incentives should be available to just everyone otherwise it defeats the point of it being an incentive or reward.
Sorry I don't see the point in allowing for shiftless people with no plastic. This is an obvious marketing ploy just think about it. If A Net sells in a brick and mortar store they pay for the CD manufacturing and the packaging and the shipping. All of that comes out of their profit. If they sell in the online store they have only the overhead of actually making the code to consider so yeah they are going to give people incentives to buy from the online store and I don't think that those incentives should be available to just everyone otherwise it defeats the point of it being an incentive or reward.
KiyaKoreena
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It was a bonus for buying through the online store. I dont expect a tshirt/poster/whatnot to get shipped to me if some brick store offered one with purchase and I went elsewhere.
Though it might be kind of nice if the contests in the future offer a key for it as a prize option. If there was a DA key offered for a contest prize I would bet quite a few people would try harder with their entries.
It was a bonus for buying through the online store. I dont expect a tshirt/poster/whatnot to get shipped to me if some brick store offered one with purchase and I went elsewhere.
Though it might be kind of nice if the contests in the future offer a key for it as a prize option. If there was a DA key offered for a contest prize I would bet quite a few people would try harder with their entries.
Sinnocent
/notsigned
And I DON'T have it, or GW:EN.
I saw the promotion, I knew it existed, it was hard not to see it (but then again some players don't even read the login announcements), I chose not to take part in it knowing full well I'd be left out on the bmp. Did I have the money? Sure. But I had other things I needed to spend my money on.
If it's decided later on that the promotion will run again, perhaps I'll take part then. If the bmp is sold in stores, I'll give it the same consideration. If the bmp is gone for good, so be it. Guild Wars games are a luxury for me. I have and will only make the purchase when I can afford it without crossing my budget lines and saftey nets. I can't play the stupid card and pretend I didn't know any better about the promotion, or that I should blame Anet for making priority out of my personal funds.
A limited time bonus promotion is exactly what it says. I'll live with it, or in this case, without it.
And I DON'T have it, or GW:EN.
I saw the promotion, I knew it existed, it was hard not to see it (but then again some players don't even read the login announcements), I chose not to take part in it knowing full well I'd be left out on the bmp. Did I have the money? Sure. But I had other things I needed to spend my money on.
If it's decided later on that the promotion will run again, perhaps I'll take part then. If the bmp is sold in stores, I'll give it the same consideration. If the bmp is gone for good, so be it. Guild Wars games are a luxury for me. I have and will only make the purchase when I can afford it without crossing my budget lines and saftey nets. I can't play the stupid card and pretend I didn't know any better about the promotion, or that I should blame Anet for making priority out of my personal funds.
A limited time bonus promotion is exactly what it says. I'll live with it, or in this case, without it.
Loviatar
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as to being available some other way that was your own wishful thinking
here is what it officially says and it looks pretty clear to me that this is indeed a limited offer take it or lose it
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Originally Posted by Jongo River
Frankly, I'm astonished at all the snivelling against the idea that this pack might be made available any other way. My recollection of the several long threads on this subject, was that many players were not happy with the offer and many also believed that it would become available some other way.
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Spend a total of $29 USD (€26/£17) or more in the Guild Wars In-Game Store or purchase and activate any product worth $29 USD (€26/£17) through the PlayNC online store, between Noon Pacific Time July 5, 2007 and 11:59 PM Pacific Time October 31, 2007. You can spend the required amount all at once, or over time; your purchases will be tracked and once you meet the requirement, you will qualify to receive the Bonus Mission Pack! The Details The Bonus Mission Pack will release in November. This promotion is non-transferable and is limited to one per account. The Bonus Pack will only be available to the exact account that fulfills this promotion in the in-game store or the exact account on which a qualifying Guild Wars product is activated that has been purchased in the PlayNC store. |
KamikazeChicken
The BMP was offered for an extended period of time with full disclosure that it was ONLY available for that limited period. People either qualified or didn't, and it's time people take responsibility for their own actions, instead of blaming Anet for every last thing.
However, I don't see why Anet did the promotion how they did when the entire point of offering it as incentive was to create revenue. The made quite a bit more off people buying 3 character slots than those buying EotN, but I'm sure Anet knows what it's doing.
However, I don't see why Anet did the promotion how they did when the entire point of offering it as incentive was to create revenue. The made quite a bit more off people buying 3 character slots than those buying EotN, but I'm sure Anet knows what it's doing.
Jongo River
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as to being available some other way that was your own wishful thinking
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it looks pretty clear to me that this is indeed a limited offer take it or lose it
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Just curious, but when Disney re-release all their junk in the run-up to Christmas with "only for a limited time" stickers on the covers - do you actually believe them?
Str0b0
Look people,do you cry when the McRib goes away? Do you demand that the manager make you one even though it's been gone for a month? No of course not. It's a limited time offer. That means that once that time expires it's done. You missed out. No pork goodness for you. Do you demand that the collector's edition exclusives be made available for your purchase? Well maybe you do but I hate to say it it won't happen. you missed out on the window to acquire that goodness. Now this offer was not only blasted on the log in screen for weeks but posted on the website and the official wiki. You would have to be playing this game in braille to miss it. It clearly stated that the BMP would be available to anyone who spent X amount of dollars between date A and date B. Do you see the finality of that time line? It says the promotion starts here and it ends here. You missed out. Too bad. You had every opportunity that the rest of us did.
pumpkin pie
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The BMP was offered for an extended period of time with full disclosure that it was ONLY available for that limited period. People either qualified or didn't, and it's time people take responsibility for their own actions, instead of blaming Anet for every last thing.
However, I don't see why Anet did the promotion how they did when the entire point of offering it as incentive was to create revenue. The made quite a bit more off people buying 3 character slots than those buying EotN, but I'm sure Anet knows what it's doing. |
Sneaky Mcsneaksneak
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Gaile was already very clear on this. It will not happen.
/not signed.
pumpkin pie
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that phrase means the promotion is not transferable maybe to other account? have you think about it. if it mean after the promotion you won't get the pack, it would probably says something along the line of: "The Bonus Pack Offers will not be available after the promotions period."
What is will be. if not, well I have mine mission pack, both accounts :P but I think other player who wishes to get it later can get it with a reasonable price.
PS: limited edition and limited time offers are 2 different type of promotion.... one is exclusive the other is non-exclusive.
plus the bonus mission pack, don't necessary have to be called a bonus mission pack after this, it can be called an upgrade. *throw hints at Anet*
CHunterX
If they do end up offering it in the in-game store, I would like a Eye of the North box sent to my home, free of charge and shipping. The only reason I used that damn store and missed out on having a box for my shelf was for the BMP.
jezz
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i dont think anyone is preventing anybody from accessing BMP...(July 5, 2007 and October 31, 2007)...if you didnt get it in that time frame..whos problem is it...not those that have qualified or Anets.
crazy diamond
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And here we see the disaster that is ANet marketing. They kept emphasizing this was just a nice little bonus if you bought something in the online store you would normally want anyway.
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The Abbott
/signed, there are a lot of selfish people here
Drop of Fear
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/signed, there are a lot of selfish people here
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The Abbott
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and a lot of full time whiners.
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Dante the Warlord
I bought GW:EN from the online store and didn't really see the point of the box lol. Who knows whats going to happen, but i don't see how people can just happen to afford the BMP after they were given months of time to buy it.
Plus, most of the people who are /signing it didn't want to buy it or have bought it already.
Plus, most of the people who are /signing it didn't want to buy it or have bought it already.