Heyzzzzz people
I just wanted to make a statement here over some high end stuff.
I posted a rant over the ridicilous prices being offert about the eternal blade
100k 1500 ecto 75 braces and still rising.
8 people who read the rant pm'ed me ingame and agreed with me that far most all that stuff can't be fair and can or is still a leftover from the dupe exploit.
And i even think Anet drags there feed related to Ebay golds.
Course how is someone willing to accumulate 75 braces (1125 gemsets)
And many have those amounts of braces and even more IMO
Thats 7000k and 2100 ecto iff you count 100k 40 ecto a brace
2100 ecto x 5k ea = 10500k -_- for 70 braces
And many stacks of ecto sure someone can have 1 or 2 stacks but 10 plus stacks.
Something stinks.
And it's a bad smell.
Just a last thing i know Anet banned the big dupers but i know that they missed
those who kept there mouth shut and did it without Anet noticed it.
And some other thing flame away i have thick skin but you people can't ignore these things something stinks and it ain't smelly gymsocks
Sorry but is is just me but this just can't be fair
Greetzzz Sparda
looking for a ban
Sparda
makosi
I have to commend you for saying what's on a lot of people's mind.
I have my doubts about the duping situation. Was it really all cleared up?
I have my doubts about the duping situation. Was it really all cleared up?
Sparda
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I have to commend you for saying what's on a lot of people's mind.
I have my doubts about the duping situation. Was it really all cleared up? |
And i just had to make this rant.
Antheus
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These people don't get money by farming. It's impossible. There are players who operate at different levels, solely trading and investing. The values tossed around here are nothing special.
There were people with stacks of ectos soon after launch. Not one stack, but stacks. And that was almost 3 years ago.
DoA is now fairly old. 75 braces isn't much. That's 1 every 3 or so days, perhaps even less. It's really not a big number. It was those "500 braces, how many do you need" type of deals that were fishy.
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And many stacks of ecto sure someone can have 1 or 2 stacks but 10 plus stacks. Something stinks. And it's a bad smell. |
Running Elonian chests gives you 20k every month. Multiply that by x characters. There's people with 5, 10, 20 accounts. With dozens, even hundreds of characters.
No, 10 stacks really isn't that much.
Mordakai
Is the Eternal Sword unique? As in, it will never drop again?
Redfeather1975
If I had the money I would buy the sword and make a video of me salvaging it for materials.
Like that WoW movie with little Jimmy and his blue staff.
Like that WoW movie with little Jimmy and his blue staff.
Sparda
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Originally Posted by Antheus
No, not really.
There are eBayers. No bad smell about that. It may seem a lot at first. But 75 really isn't that much for one-of-a-kind item. Drunkard and Sweet tooth cost millions. People are buying those titles left and right, and are generally considered the easiest titles to get. These people don't get money by farming. It's impossible. There are players who operate at different levels, solely trading and investing. The values tossed around here are nothing special. There were people with stacks of ectos soon after launch. Not one stack, but stacks. And that was almost 3 years ago. DoA is now fairly old. 75 braces isn't much. That's 1 every 3 or so days, perhaps even less. It's really not a big number. It was those "500 braces, how many do you need" type of deals that were fishy. |
And that many ecto's where sold to the trader @ the time of the dupe or else the price didn't get that low from 10/12k to 5k
And sweet tooth or drunkard can cost like 2 mil in total ea for max titel
Snograt
This insane price war has me worried too. When prices start to head in the multiple Armbrace range, it's an obvious concern.
Maybe someone with an insight to the legitimately ultra-rich could offer an opinion? (The name Malice Black springs to mind - he knows everyone with limitless funds ^^ )
What is the most money anyone has legitimately accumulated and, just as importantly, what limit would the ultra-rich put on a singular purchase such as this?
(Thumbs down for the trolling thread title though...)
Maybe someone with an insight to the legitimately ultra-rich could offer an opinion? (The name Malice Black springs to mind - he knows everyone with limitless funds ^^ )
What is the most money anyone has legitimately accumulated and, just as importantly, what limit would the ultra-rich put on a singular purchase such as this?
(Thumbs down for the trolling thread title though...)
Drop of Fear
the fact that there are still duped items / armbraces around cannot be contested. we all know that. but throwing random accusations at ppl is not fair either.
i know a guy that bought an everlasting beetle tonic for 220ectos the first days those were available. he recently sold it for 1750 ectos. he had a lucky stroke. he bought it to use and found himself with a little treasure in his storage now that he decided to sell it.
he gained 1530ectos doing that. has he cheated? no. has he duped? no. has he bought from ebay the 7 stacks of ectos he has? no.
many people trade in highend items better then this.
i personaly can think of 2-3 ppl that acquired immense amount of cash somehow cheating, but not everyone did.
i know a guy that bought an everlasting beetle tonic for 220ectos the first days those were available. he recently sold it for 1750 ectos. he had a lucky stroke. he bought it to use and found himself with a little treasure in his storage now that he decided to sell it.
he gained 1530ectos doing that. has he cheated? no. has he duped? no. has he bought from ebay the 7 stacks of ectos he has? no.
many people trade in highend items better then this.
i personaly can think of 2-3 ppl that acquired immense amount of cash somehow cheating, but not everyone did.
Coridan
the eternal blade is a drop from the end chest of UW. I agree that the dupe hasn't been fully explained...and that there are know dupers still in the game. Total BS.
As to insane amounts of money for items check out the prices on the Panda's and the people that have them have 2-3 panda's each. Total BS that a non casual gamer as myself who has a bit of money and ectos can never ever achieve the amounts of money that a select few players have...
EDIT Make Armbraces nonstackable
As to insane amounts of money for items check out the prices on the Panda's and the people that have them have 2-3 panda's each. Total BS that a non casual gamer as myself who has a bit of money and ectos can never ever achieve the amounts of money that a select few players have...
EDIT Make Armbraces nonstackable
makosi
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Is the Eternal Sword unique? As in, it will never drop again?
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More will appear in the future.
Sparda
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Running Elonian chests gives you 20k every month. Multiply that by x characters. There's people with 5, 10, 20 accounts. With dozens, even hundreds of characters. No, 10 stacks really isn't that much. |
and you can only have like 26 plus 12/13 chars slots
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by makosi
No they come from the UW end chests and [i think] the HoH reward chest. I only know of a req.13 and a req.9 in existence because both were featured in the High End section of the Ventari's Corner.
More will appear in the future. |
It's just too bad Anet doesn't get some characters to sell high end stuff to remove some gold from the game....
Simath
Oh hey look it's another "that person has too much gold they must be an ebayer" thread.
You can easily accumulate mass wealth through power trading with enough time and patience. Why this topic continues to be discussed I don't know.
You can easily accumulate mass wealth through power trading with enough time and patience. Why this topic continues to be discussed I don't know.
boxterduke
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i do not agree on that first time you pop those free chest yes they can give like 20k but after more times they give less and less money after 4 pops they give me 6k and only grapes
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But yeah, I see these prices and I think its not fair as well.
Antheus
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Al that stuff need to get from somewhere remember that the server only has that amount of ecto that the players sell to the rare trader. And that many ecto's where sold to the trader @ the time of the dupe or else the price didn't get that low from 10/12k to 5k |
Ectos are excluded from loot scaling, yet access to UW was increased, and as such allowed for limitless farming.
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What about those with all characters with FoW armor?
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Back in the Prophecies, I was trading ecto between continents. I was making 500g per ecto, or 7% markup. Sometimes, in an hour, I'd move a stack, making 125k in the process. This type of "high end" trading would be considered scraping the bottom.
Now consider that there are people who have spent last 3 years doing nothing but trading - but not for 500g profit per item, but differences counted in ectos.
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cosyfiep
when people start using pandas for trading purposes (like 2 pandas, braces, and ecto....) then I will start to worry about the dupers again.....until then there are tons of people who do nothing but the same farming thing over and over and over and ....you get the idea......
its been some time since DoA was opened up as someone said, if you did a run like everyday for the last few months that would be lots of stuff to sell, trade, etc....so I have no problems with the stacks people say they have now. Whether dupping is still going on.........who's to say?
its been some time since DoA was opened up as someone said, if you did a run like everyday for the last few months that would be lots of stuff to sell, trade, etc....so I have no problems with the stacks people say they have now. Whether dupping is still going on.........who's to say?
Prof Of Black
You can make, with luck, 100k each hour with powertrading.
Thats 20 ecto
1000 hours of trading = 1000x20 = 20000 ecto..
= 400 armbraces
It's /nolife, but still, it's possible.
Trading rare minis ftw.
And having luck.
~Prof.
Thats 20 ecto
1000 hours of trading = 1000x20 = 20000 ecto..
= 400 armbraces
It's /nolife, but still, it's possible.
Trading rare minis ftw.
And having luck.
~Prof.
makosi
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Oh hey look it's another "that person has too much gold they must be an ebayer" thread.
You can easily accumulate mass wealth through power trading with enough time and patience. Why this topic continues to be discussed I don't know. |
Everyone knows that you can acquire great wealth through power-trading and being in the right place at the right time with good contacts and so on. There comes a time where people stop and think about how these unknown people, who have never been seen on the high-end scene, suddenly bid millions on a sword.
When Akhilleus bought a req.8 15^50 crystalline for [i think] 1,750 ectos nobody pointed fingers and called him a cheat because he sold and bought lots in high-end over a long period of time.
People reserve the right to be skeptical where they can add reasonable justification.
On another note, if you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about so if I had all that cash I wouldn't post in this thread trying to defend myself. I'd be on a shopping spree.
Sparda
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Oh hey look it's another "that person has too much gold they must be an ebayer" thread.
You can easily accumulate mass wealth through power trading with enough time and patience. Why this topic continues to be discussed I don't know. |
I'm not pointing fingers to people but we all know that are many ways to get rish but some of them here just have an unlimited amount of money.
And we all know that the money has to come from somewhere.
But if i look @ your blow joe average they don't have much money so iff they can't affort the prices from the power trader where does there money then come from
Jebus
I must congratulate you on posting what's on a lot of player's minds.
Sparda
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I must congratulate you on posting what's on a lot of player's minds.
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I just wanted to shed some light on some smelly things.
Course Anet never told us anything how they reacted to the dupe exploit
Sure they told us yeah we banned some people yawn where going back to bed.
They never ever posted something serious on there official wiki.
And for ... sake it's there official website.
yeah they posted here on GW Gulag not much but something.
VanDamselx
This is ridiculous. There are some incredibly rich players who may have 75 armbraces, there's no need to say that they were duping. Scooby had a problem quite some time ago being accused simply because he had a panda, or something along those lines. You can ask any of the Guru mods on here, offers like that do come from legitimate players and if you can't afford it, then wait. It's only time before the price sinks like a rock just like everything else in this game.
Earth
Congratulations on making just about every post a big QQ about prices. Yes, 10+ stack of ectos is possible. Yes, 75 armbraces is possible, even without duping.
If you can't afford it, tough shit. Learn power trading if you want insane amounts of ectos, or do UW HM until you get your own sword. Looking for a ban? I think you're just QQing.
If you can't afford it, tough shit. Learn power trading if you want insane amounts of ectos, or do UW HM until you get your own sword. Looking for a ban? I think you're just QQing.
VanDamselx
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its a little extra in game gold worth the 50$ for a new account. be it NF.Faction or tyria?
all these people who say they have 10 accounts with 10 characters each are just IMHO full of it. unless its a rich kid or rich person, no average person will spend that much real money on accounts. 10 accounts with 3 campaigns and 2 extra char slots each or 10 accounts with 1 campaign each with 6 extra character slots. thats alota real money to be spending whats to say they did not just ebay if your willing to spend that much money on char slots and accounts than your willing to spend 50$ for a million gold are you not? we normal GWers 1 account with 3 campaigns and EOTN 8-10 char slots mostly people with 8. thats if you bought them when they came out 190$ thats a big chunk of money for a video game if you look at it like that. take those people who clame to have many accounts 10 accounts with 10 character slots each estimated by spending the max for each the math is normal account size with all 3 games + EOTN and extra character slots 2 for each account. 10*190$=1900$ + 10*9.99$=99.9$ Thats about 2 thousand REAL DOLLARS for all those accounts and characters, Seems some people have alota extra money to spend and paying bills is last on the list LOL 2 thousand dollars who ever has that much money to spend on a video game would you pay my rent Please? now take all that money spent 2000$. if the person has this much money to blow why not buy a million gold for each of those accounts or buy more than a million for each account??? Flame all you want but anyone who spends this kind of money on GW really needs a special someone or needs to talk to a professional about video game addiction |
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If you can't afford it, tough shit. Learn power trading if you want insane amounts of ectos, or do UW HM until you get your own sword. Looking for a ban? I think you're just QQing.
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Darkobra
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i do not agree on that first time you pop those free chest yes they can give like 20k but after more times they give less and less money after 4 pops they give me 6k and only grapes
and you can only have like 26 plus 12/13 chars slots |
Faer
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Just a last thing i know Anet banned the big dupers but i know that they missed
those who kept there mouth shut and did it without Anet noticed it. |
There are legit players who just have boatloads of gold to blow. There are also remnants of the days of duping, in the form of scattered duped items that were sold cheap at the time, and could possibly have been collected (through trading), by a few people with enough cash to do so. Then, there are the people who spend real cash on pixel gold, and spend it on super rare items to make themselves feel and/or look 1337. But don't accuse the company when it's the players that are at fault.
In any event, gold is really easy to come by in this game these days. Just slap some amazingly lolimba PvE skills on your bar, tear up a few Hard Mode dungeons or zones, and watch your Xunlai Chest fill up. Before GW:EotN was released, I was one of the "middle class" players, sitting on just enough gold to buy whatever I needed, and not much for any of the special stuff. Now, I'm still middle class, but I'm moving up on the economic ladder at an alarming rate simply by playing the game for a few hours each day before or after (and sometimes during) work. And I haven't even bothered messing with Hard Mode outside of some elite zones (UW/FoW/DoA mostly)!
Anybody can become eRich. You just have to put in a little effort.
Sparda
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its a little extra in game gold worth the 50$ for a new account. be it NF.Faction or tyria?
all these people who say they have 10 accounts with 10 characters each are just IMHO full of it. unless its a rich kid or rich person, no average person will spend that much real money on accounts. 10 accounts with 3 campaigns and 2 extra char slots each or 10 accounts with 1 campaign each with 6 extra character slots. thats alota real money to be spending whats to say they did not just ebay if your willing to spend that much money on char slots and accounts than your willing to spend 50$ for a million gold are you not? we normal GWers 1 account with 3 campaigns and EOTN 8-10 char slots mostly people with 8. thats if you bought them when they came out 190$ thats a big chunk of money for a video game if you look at it like that. take those people who clame to have many accounts 10 accounts with 10 character slots each estimated by spending the max for each the math is normal account size with all 3 games + EOTN and extra character slots 2 for each account. 10*190$=1900$ + 10*9.99$=99.9$ Thats about 2 thousand REAL DOLLARS for all those accounts and characters, Seems some people have alota extra money to spend and paying bills is last on the list LOL 2 thousand dollars who ever has that much money to spend on a video game would you pay my rent Please? now take all that money spent 2000$. if the person has this much money to blow why not buy a million gold for each of those accounts or buy more than a million for each account??? Flame all you want but anyone who spends this kind of money on GW really needs a special someone or needs to talk to a professional about video game addiction |
your are right
Nothing to say
Earth
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I understand the deals and what not this is a ROUGH estimite on the Best buy prices.
Very nice deal Sams club has to bad you need a friend or family member to get you in if you dont have a Sams card, and even sams club cost money to be a member of. And yes 2-3 accounts I can see that 1 friend quits and gives it to you, But 10friends quittin and all of them giveing the accounts to you LOL now thats just very hard to believe. what im trying to say is the people who have 10+ accounts with hundreds of characters also have millions of EBAYED/WEBSITE gold. they have ither Hacked/Stolen all of those accounts or bought them all and again if your willing the spend thousands of dollars on a video game your willing to spend a few hundred for a couple million gold. |
VanDamselx
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I understand the deals and what not this is a ROUGH estimite on the Best buy prices.
Very nice deal Sams club has to bad you need a friend or family member to get you in if you dont have a Sams card, and even sams club cost money to be a member of. And yes 2-3 accounts I can see that 1 friend quits and gives it to you, But 10friends quittin and all of them giveing the accounts to you LOL now thats just very hard to believe. what im trying to say is the people who have 10+ accounts with hundreds of characters also have millions of EBAYED/WEBSITE gold. they have ither Hacked/Stolen all of those accounts or bought them all and again if your willing the spend thousands of dollars on a video game your willing to spend a few hundred for a couple million gold. |
This whole thread is based on assumptions and basically accusing the people that made these bids on the Eternal Swords are guilty of some kind of cheating. If you think someone is cheating, then report it instead of making wild claims on a forum.
Antheus
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take those people who clame to have many accounts
10 accounts with 10 character slots each estimated by spending the max for each the math is normal account size with all 3 games + EOTN and extra character slots 2 for each account. 10*190$=1900$ + 10*9.99$=99.9$ Thats about 2 thousand REAL DOLLARS for all those accounts and characters, Seems some people have alota extra money to spend and paying bills is last on the list LOL 2 thousand dollars who ever has that much money to spend on a video game would you pay my rent Please? |
This isn't even counting that in GW, getting accounts from people who depart is free - no subscription. Having dozens of accounts is no problem, and can easily be free.
Highest bids in online worlds have exceeded $100,000 a few years back for virtual property (Entropia Universe).
If you look at SOE's Station Exchange, I believe someone earned ~$50,000 by powertrading for real money and paid for college with that money.
What one considers a big investment into a game will vary. Especially in a free-to-play game.
$200 a month is not a lot of money. There's millions of people that would spend it on something more useful in real life - but for many, it's just disposable income for an hour or two of entertainment. And some, even choose to spend it on games.
For some, various fortunes in game are truly unimaginable. But the sums we're talking here, either for accounts or in-game gold are not one of those.
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Crom The Pale
The big problem at the moment is just that so few of the Eternal Blades has dropped, in about 2-4months they will be more reasonably priced.
100K + 20-100ectos seams the comon range for most of the rare skins depending on requirement/mods and current popular taste.
Mini pets are a diffent story as they have a limited number in game and that number, for the rarest, does not increase save at some special event reward.
100K + 20-100ectos seams the comon range for most of the rare skins depending on requirement/mods and current popular taste.
Mini pets are a diffent story as they have a limited number in game and that number, for the rarest, does not increase save at some special event reward.
Faer
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You are making very rash, very childish accusations and pointing fingers in random directions in an effort to make a point, without caring who's reputation you might be throwing dirt on in the process.
6am3 Fana71c
I understand that millions of gold is possible, heck - my own friend has 2 FoW armors, and he got both of them simply by farming and selling. But we are not talking about few millions here, we are talking about dozens of armbraces, and stacks of ectos, that's like...hundreds of millions? Yeah, you can get lucky with 1337 minipets trade, but they are rare and few, it's impossible EVERYONE got rich reselling them.
Sparda
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$2000 in 3 year period of disposable income isn't a lot of money. It's $55 a month. Many of my online friends and past guildies have 5-10 accounts in subscription based games ($150 a month easily). Either one game or multiple games. And those weren't even the hard-core. The most hard-core parson I've ever met in another game had 22 active accounts at $15 a month. /nolife? Not my problem or for me to know.
This isn't even counting that in GW, getting accounts from people who depart is free - no subscription. Having dozens of accounts is no problem, and can easily be free. Highest bids in online worlds have exceeded $100,000 a few years back for virtual property (Entropia Universe). If you look at SOE's Station Exchange, I believe someone earned ~$50,000 by powertrading for real money and paid for college with that money. What one considers a big investment into a game will vary. Especially in a free-to-play game. $200 a month is not a lot of money. There's millions of people that would spend it on something more useful in real life - but for many, it's just disposable income for an hour or two of entertainment. And some, even choose to spend it on games. For some, various fortunes in game are truly unimaginable. But the sums we're talking here, either for accounts or in-game gold are not one of those. |
$200 disposable income that is much money that you trow away a month.
MikeV
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hmmmm you haven't any clue about money those people have a serious defect
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Antheus
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Not everyone who plays this game is 16 and works at McDonalds. I put 3 times that much in my 401k each month. I'm not saying I'd piss it away on a game, I'm just saying many people have that opportunity if they wish to do so.
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Another person I met was a majority stockholder of a rapidly growing restaurant franchise.
Many others I've met were business owners and or senior managers or consultants, including high-level Fortune 500 members. We're talking $200-500 per hour rates.
Needless to say, $200 a month was not much, considering many of them spend this much for wine over dinner.
But given the free nature of GW, as well as generally younger demographic, it is indeed hard for some to understand the big players in MMOs.
Crom The Pale
Just a quick little update, I just checked on the Eternal Blade in high end.
Current bid is for 100K +1250ecto + Mini Vizu + 200 Ambraces.
Now I have Chaos Gloves and full FoW armor and a nice set of weapons over 100K, but no way will I EVER earn that much cash/items.
I know a few wealthy players, one that is about 100 times richer than me(not that I count myself as rich) and he will admit that some levels of wealth are never obtainable out side of Ebay/Dupping or Bot farming.
Current bid is for 100K +1250ecto + Mini Vizu + 200 Ambraces.
Now I have Chaos Gloves and full FoW armor and a nice set of weapons over 100K, but no way will I EVER earn that much cash/items.
I know a few wealthy players, one that is about 100 times richer than me(not that I count myself as rich) and he will admit that some levels of wealth are never obtainable out side of Ebay/Dupping or Bot farming.
Shadowmoon
current offer ~ 50 mil gold. Guess i'll glad gw2 is coming soon, everyone will be equal footing.
So Anet, loot scaling was suppose to cause deflation, where is all this income coming from i'm wondering. I'm wondering if the Duping had more of a effect than was evident.
So Anet, loot scaling was suppose to cause deflation, where is all this income coming from i'm wondering. I'm wondering if the Duping had more of a effect than was evident.
Sparda
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Not everyone who plays this game is 16 and works at McDonalds. I put 3 times that much in my 401k each month. I'm not saying I'd piss it away on a game, I'm just saying many people have that opportunity if they wish to do so.
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but remember that there are many nationalities here your from the Stats and i life in the Netherlands 2 different ways of life