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Burning Blade

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

Syag

14 Nov 2007 at 00:03 - 81

last offer was:

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100k+1250e+panda+dedicated Ghostly+Vizu+Gold Mini Pig+100 armbraces.

but the guy soon restracted to buy a Plasma Blade, which is a collector weapon (according to Wiki). Is it a joke or what?

Yesterday, I saw the guy selling that Eternal Blade in Kamadan D1 and I was "wow new sword?" and asked to see. The seller was nice to show me and told me the asking price of 1500e+50e. I almost fainted to see the shocking price and now current offer is way beyond that (if my math is correct). If I bought it I would make some stacks of ectos as benefits. Never mind cause I will never be able to get that kind of money even though I have 3 FOWs from long time farming and power-trading.

Damn that sword looks sick. Is it still dropping or it only dropped once long time ago? Me and my brother may finally have the reason to clear UW. What's best team build to do there (not full 8-man team but 2 man + H/H)? We tried B/P Tomb team build. It worked okay but had a bit of trouble killing smites.

I still have 1 stack of ectos dont know what to do. If its price ever goes down to around 1 stack, I may consider buying it instead of farming my life off.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

14 Nov 2007 at 00:04 - 82

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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito

QFT

That said, the numbers just don't add up unless there was a LARGE undocumented giveaway in the not too distant past.

Don't count every thread in High End as a new seller or even a new item. A lot of the regulars to the banned queue will have other accounts or will get friends/guildies to sell their items.

lol! fake bid..just as I said

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

14 Nov 2007 at 00:08 - 83

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Originally Posted by w00t!

The solution to the economy is, and always has been, gold sinks. Introducing a new weapon drop in UW will only move money around, not remove it from the economy. So it has no effect on the economy as a whole.

Actually, increasing the number of transactions in the economy suddenly is likely to screw it up in the short run. Or so say the monetarists.

The problem that the economy faces is that there simply are no gold sinks that are anywhere near as attractive as the super-rare items. There's a reason for this - the gold sinks are available to all, so they produce less significant status symbols. FoW armor, Chaos Gloves and the like don't even begin to scratch the surface of keeping up with ecto creation. At the end of the day there 3 things that require sinks:

1) Ectos
2) Armbraces
3) Gold

as these are the currencies in which in-game trades are denominated.

If sanity is to return, stuff that armbraces can be traded in for needs to be created; the catch is that people need to like them a LOT more than they like armbraces.

The new items would have to be new weapon skins/pets/title items/consumables/what have you, in order to avoid crashing other markets.

I think we can all agree on the probability of this actually happening, given the shift in focus to GW2 development.

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

14 Nov 2007 at 00:13 - 84

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burning Blade

Yesterday, I saw the guy selling that Eternal Blade in Kamadan D1 and I was "wow new sword?" and asked to see. The seller was nice to show me and told me the asking price of 1500e+50e. I almost fainted to see the shocking price and now current offer is way beyond that (if my math is correct). If I bought it I would make some stacks of ectos as benefits.

Unless he lied to you. People do that. Someone with an item like that is particularly likely to do so, as exploiting information asymmetries is how you make BIG money trading.

I'd be surprised if the sword sells for anything even approximating that bid.

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Originally Posted by Burning Blade

Damn that sword looks sick. Is it still dropping or it only dropped once long time ago?

It just started dropping; apparently it will only drop from the end chest, so you have to compete all ten quests down there for a shot at one.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

14 Nov 2007 at 00:14 - 85

More gold sinks just create more reasons for people to buy/dupe items.

They could add an UW armor, but people would just use this as an excuse to buy more gold.

It's a never ending circle.

I MP I

Hustler

Join Date: Nov 2006

in between GW2 servers

Mo/

14 Nov 2007 at 00:15 - 86

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice Black

Bingo!

Most those bids are fake. A lot of people in High End bid, but they don't have the cash to back it up.

Money is easy to make in GW. Everything depends on who you know, and what you know.

There is also little groups of trade "buddies" that artifically inflate the price of their friends items with fake bids. One of the main reason guildies can not bid on each others items in High End.

Welcome to the trade world.

Yep I've got my eyes on that thread cause of that (lol plasma blade). The shill bidding is one of the reasons I stopped bothering with highend trades on here. It happens too often.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

14 Nov 2007 at 00:21 - 87

Make all the rare skin weapons buyable from merchants/crafters/collectors for less than they are going for in bids (but still a lot, in ectos, armbraces, etc) so that the vast amounts of wealth used go out of the market instead?

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

14 Nov 2007 at 00:21 - 88

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice Black

Don't count every thread in High End as a new seller or even a new item. A lot of the regulars to the banned queue will have other accounts or will get friends/guildies to sell their items.

lol! fake bid..just as I said

All true, but if I observe:

3-5 Vizus perma on the first few pages, vs. rare Beetle/Panda sales
Vizu repeatedly being used as currency in trades (by multiple bidders?)

then this can be fully explained neither by the repost hypothesis, nor by the "undesirable" hypothesis. The frequency of attempted sales/use in trades is just too high unless several of them actually change hands weekly.

Contrast with Mini Ghostly. There have to be WAY more than 39 out there at this point; the price range is similar. Yet the frequency with which those go up for sale/are included in a bid is much lower.

The behavior just doesn't make sense given the information. (Why would good traders still own Vizus? Shouldn't they have exited from ownership already if market demand/value is dropping, given the informational advantage? Why would a trader that owns a Panda ever accept one?)

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

14 Nov 2007 at 00:23 - 89

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

Make all the rare skin weapons buyable from merchants/crafters/collectors for less than they are going for in bids (but still a lot, in ectos, armbraces, etc) so that the vast amounts of wealth used go out of the market instead?

Attractive until the market price dips below the trader price (which would be nearly instantaneous). Then the mechanism stops working for you.

Worse, the lost consumer surplus resulting from the massive devaluation of stuff people own would have players howling for ANet's blood.

Even worse, some people have informational advantages, and would utilize them to dump their affected stuff on the market and leave others holding the bag.

Not worth the cost from ANet's perspective. True, it institutes a price ceiling on rare items. However, unless you're prepared to make low req unconditional weapons available at the traders, there would still be stuff out there that cannot be provided through the trader system.

Let me be the first to suggest that ANet NOT do that...

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

14 Nov 2007 at 00:27 - 90

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Alvito

All true, but if I observe:

3-5 Vizus perma on the first few pages, vs. rare Beetle/Panda sales
Vizu repeatedly being used as currency in trades (by multiple bidders?)

then this can be fully explained neither by the repost hypothesis, nor by the "undesirable" hypothesis. The frequency of attempted sales/use in trades is just too high unless several of them actually change hands weekly.

Contrast with Mini Ghostly. There have to be WAY more than 39 out there at this point; the price range is similar. Yet the frequency with which those go up for sale/are included in a bid is much lower.

The behavior just doesn't make sense given the information. (Why would good traders still own Vizus? Shouldn't they have exited from ownership already if market demand/value is dropping, given the informational advantage? Why would a trader that owns a Panda ever accept one?)

Heh this says everything. People who duped/bought gold suck at trading, so if you see something like you described you know they are not legit.

I laugh when I see people say "I sold this to you, but I miss it" then they go and bid more then what they sold it for (just so happens this was a Vizu sell also)

weed

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Im Not Stupid Im [Dumb]

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14 Nov 2007 at 00:31 - 91

Yea this is BS....Q9 Eternal Sword on Highend Forums going for 100k+1250e+mini Vizu+200 Armbraces??? If ectos are 4.5k and mini vizu for 1000e Armbraces for 60e ...=64,225,000 plat...Sorry there is noway. That is WAY 2 much 2 get JUST from playing this game =/ GG anet GG

undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

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14 Nov 2007 at 00:51 - 92

Quote:

Originally Posted by weed

Yea this is BS....Q9 Eternal Sword on Highend Forums going for 100k+1250e+mini Vizu+200 Armbraces??? If ectos are 4.5k and mini vizu for 1000e Armbraces for 60e ...=64,225,000 plat...Sorry there is noway. That is WAY 2 much 2 get JUST from playing this game =/ GG anet GG

i know of a fact that there are handful ppl that can truely afford it, and yet, some of them are DUPERS left overs, at least i know 2 person still have 800+ armbraces, go figure

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

14 Nov 2007 at 00:53 - 93

The Ascalon Inter1 crew lol

Hangin in Ebay district is cool these day huh?

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

14 Nov 2007 at 01:16 - 94

I remember when ectos were 100gp each and how many of us bought tons of them at that price. It was some economic reset and those online when it happened made a killing on getting stacks and stacks of ectos. But, the other stuff like the gemset items yeah those would take some time to collect but how longs it been since NF release a year now? I think someone dedicated to a years worth of collecting them could have stacks and stacks by now.

o m g pizowned

Site Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2006

14 Nov 2007 at 01:32 - 95

Quote:

Originally Posted by weed

Yea this is BS....Q9 Eternal Sword on Highend Forums going for 100k+1250e+mini Vizu+200 Armbraces??? If ectos are 4.5k and mini vizu for 1000e Armbraces for 60e ...=64,225,000 plat...Sorry there is noway. That is WAY 2 much 2 get JUST from playing this game =/ GG anet GG

i know people legit who have had more than 60mill....
but, i can deff. say that the guy bidding on that eternal is *not* legit

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

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14 Nov 2007 at 01:52 - 96

Quote:

Originally Posted by undeadgun

i know of a fact that there are handful ppl that can truely afford it, and yet, some of them are DUPERS left overs, at least i know 2 person still have 800+ armbraces, go figure

See this is what i am talking about. I have followed the dupe thread since it broke and Undeadgun has mentioned these two players over and over again as has Max i think it was. WHY is it that these two players are still in the game with over 800+ Armbraces. I know that Gaile Grey has asked for an ID on these 2 players and i feel pretty confident that they have been reported but yet they are still in the game. There has to be some reason that this is true.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...e+undead+gu n

Check out that thread... but as Undead has said they are still here and among us!

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

14 Nov 2007 at 01:59 - 97

Just because you don't have that much doesn't mean that it can't be done.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

14 Nov 2007 at 02:01 - 98

If they've been reported...

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

14 Nov 2007 at 02:19 - 99

I have 1400 ecto. Ban me please.

Seriously. People have money in this game you know.

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

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14 Nov 2007 at 02:30 - 100

I am not saying because someone has xxx ectos...shit i have over 300e i know no big deal...but its a great deal more than most players....I am saying when someone has 300+ armbraces (800+ confirmed by Undead Gun) then there is a problem. A stack of ectos equals 4.16 armbraces at 60 ectos per armbrace...u do the math... 300 x 60 = 18000 ectos? thats 72 stacks of ectos ....at 4k per ecto you are looking at 72 million gold....and the ecto is worth atleast 4.5 800 armbraces= 192 million gold or 48000 ectos or 192 stacks.

Toxage

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

14 Nov 2007 at 02:30 - 101

I like how people in this thread claim they know every legit "high roller". You don't know every rich player in this game. Guild Wars has millions of players. You don't know the wealth of millions of people. Stop claiming everyone who is rich is a ebayer, duper, scammer, hacker, or whatever else you want to call it.

Did you ever bother to think about it for a little bit?

- Maybe they played a long time?

- Maybe they are really passionite about the game?

- Maybe you suck at Guild Wars?

Guild Wars gold is too easy to get. I have gotten over 500,000 gold over the past month playing around 100 hours. That was starting from scratch with 0 gold, no characters, while playing the game with minimal trading and farming, I spent most of the time playing the game, beating every campaign. If I farmed the whole time I played I could easily have been in the millions. Learn to play Guild Wars better.

Burning Blade

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

Syag

14 Nov 2007 at 03:23 - 102

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toxage

Guild Wars gold is too easy to get. I have gotten over 500,000 gold over the past month playing around 100 hours. That was starting from scratch with 0 gold, no characters, while playing the game with minimal trading and farming, I spent most of the time playing the game, beating every campaign. If I farmed the whole time I played I could easily have been in the millions. Learn to play Guild Wars better.

yeah right! I remember someone said before that according to ANET's stats, average players don't have more than 20K. Unless you are very lucky to get a super drop, I don't see how normal gameplay can earn you 500K within 1 month!

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

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14 Nov 2007 at 03:26 - 103

No, many dupers got away with in, in fact, some ditched their items ahead of time to someone else, or traded it to a spare account. The damage of getting obsidian armor, and what not, wasn't fixed.

Personette

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

14 Nov 2007 at 03:41 - 104

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toxage

Guild Wars gold is too easy to get. I have gotten over 500,000 gold over the past month playing around 100 hours. That was starting from scratch with 0 gold, no characters, while playing the game with minimal trading and farming, I spent most of the time playing the game, beating every campaign. If I farmed the whole time I played I could easily have been in the millions. Learn to play Guild Wars better.

Even making 500,000 a month, it would take more than 184 months - that's 15 years - to get 92 million gold. Does that sound reasonable to you?

* edit: thanks to the post below me for correcting my math. I thought there was something funny about the number but I trust my calculator more than my intuition where math is concerned. I must have left out a zero somewhere...

tuna-fish_sushi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

California

E/A

14 Nov 2007 at 03:48 - 105

@ the poster above me Your calculations are horribly off... 500k a month over 15 months is 7.5million gold.

Anyway back on track, I am not much of a "Power Seller", I managed to make well over 400k with only a 125k investment this week. I bought 100 lockpicks and ran chests for Underworld Inscripable items and out of those 100 lockpicks I got a few req 9 inscripable uw items.

I can see how people make that money, I just feels its a huge waste to spend that much money on 1 item, it must have taking a few years to build up that much and to blow it on an item that will soon be less rare then the crystalline sword.

Crystalline Sword can only drop in HoH (so far...)

Eternal Sword can drop in UW end chest which many pvers can Ursan-way in about 2 hours. Theres a TON more pvers then pvpers.

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

14 Nov 2007 at 04:27 - 106

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burning Blade

yeah right! I remember someone said before that according to ANET's stats, average players don't have more than 20K. Unless you are very lucky to get a super drop, I don't see how normal gameplay can earn you 500K within 1 month!

It's really very simple. I run 100 people a week to Droks or other places for an average of 2k per person. The math is pretty simple. 100 x 2k = 200 plat a week x 4 weeks average month is 600k a month.

So, just because you can't do the droks run and make oodles of money doesn't mean we all can't. Running money is the easiest money to make in this game. There's a gold mine in running money out there. I usually can't pop into any high population zone without finding someone that wants or needs a run somewhere.

NoXiFy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

★☆٭Ńēŵ~ŶờЯК٭☆★

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/Me

14 Nov 2007 at 04:37 - 107

There definitely is STILL a way to dupe, I got a screenshot earlier today... someone was looking to buy a Miniature Kanaxi for 3 Mini Panda+3 Ecto stacks+1 stack of Armbrace...

Don't tell me that dosen't make you sick. I got the screenshot AND the little trade window with the $hit in it.

creelie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Alberta

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Mo/

14 Nov 2007 at 05:09 - 108

This is the tempest that results over rares that are skin-only. They give not a single advantage over a collector's item worth 125 gold.

I just hope Anet has the wisdom to retain their strict policy of meaningless elite items in GW2.

weed

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Im Not Stupid Im [Dumb]

W/

14 Nov 2007 at 05:28 - 109

Quote:

Originally Posted by o m g pizowned

i know people legit who have had more than 60mill....
but, i can deff. say that the guy bidding on that eternal is *not* legit

Im not saying that there isnt ppl out there with that much money...but remember when mini kanaxais was 1 of the rarest items in game?...was 5-7mill...now minis and rare items costing over 60million+???...
How many mini vizu's and zhed's have u seen being sold recently?....idk if duping is back, but i think quite a few got away...more than we think =/...but what do i care?...its only a game ...right?

VanDamselx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Buffalo, NY

[TTBH]

14 Nov 2007 at 06:11 - 110

The thought of duping being back makes me feel like the community is turning to shit.

undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

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14 Nov 2007 at 06:37 - 111

duping is not back, but duped armbraces are still around, just think it this way, when does DoA introduced to us? like what, almost a year ago? lets say, the BEST team out there, 8 real ppl(there was no usran blessing back then), can finish the whole DoA run in 6 hours, lets say we started at Margonite place(city), 1 margo gem+2 tormented gem+3stygian gem+4 titan gems. idealy, If only IF you get lucky you get 2 of the same type of the gems in each area, thats:3 margo 4 tormented 5stygian 6titans, +after defeating mallyx, +1 to each type of the gems, ends up 7 hours you will get total of 22 gems. Tormented weapons need 60 gems(15 of each type) to trade in. that means, 3 runs , you may get an armbrace. 21 hours for 3 armbraces. 800+ armbraces=5600 hours=233 days. thats the IDEAL numbers of the armbraces you will get, not counting in any thing else. This means, THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN FARM THAT MANY ARMBRACES ON YOUR OWN. now comes down to just buying them, who in this game that can afford 800 armbraces use either in game currency or stupid enough to pay real money?so my question is, where are those armbraces came from?

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

14 Nov 2007 at 06:46 - 112

Quote:

Originally Posted by undeadgun

duping is not back, but duped armbraces are still around, just think it this way, when does DoA introduced to us? like what, almost a year ago? lets say, the BEST team out there, 8 real ppl(there was no usran blessing back then), can finish the whole DoA run in 6 hours, lets say we started at Margonite place(city), 1 margo gem+2 tormented gem+3stygian gem+4 titan gems. idealy, If only IF you get lucky you get 2 of the same type of the gems in each area, thats:3 margo 4 tormented 5stygian 6titans, +after defeating mallyx, +1 to each type of the gems, ends up 7 hours you will get total of 22 gems. Tormented weapons need 60 gems(15 of each type) to trade in. that means, 3 runs , you may get an armbrace. 21 hours for 3 armbraces. 800+ armbraces=5600 hours=233 days. thats the IDEAL numbers of the armbraces you will get, not counting in any thing else. This means, THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN FARM THAT MANY ARMBRACES ON YOUR OWN. now comes down to just buying them, who in this game that can afford 800 armbraces use either in game currency or stupid enough to pay real money?so my question is, where are those armbraces came from?

It's pretty simple to clear DoA in 2 hours these days (since SY). Not to mention with the falling price of gems and the amount of plat people may have saved up.

undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞], also as guild leader

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14 Nov 2007 at 06:55 - 113

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avarre

It's pretty simple to clear DoA in 2 hours these days (since SY). Not to mention with the falling price of gems and the amount of plat people may have saved up.

clear DoA in 2 hours??? SHOW ME PLZ, w/e build you use, if you really can clear DoA all 4 areas in 2 hours, i will /kneel to you in game

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

14 Nov 2007 at 07:13 - 114

Quote:

Originally Posted by undeadgun

clear DoA in 2 hours??? SHOW ME PLZ, w/e build you use, if you really can clear DoA all 4 areas in 2 hours, i will /kneel to you in game

Take a look at Racthoh's team setup (I know he's posted it somewhere).

A paragon with Focused Anger + "Save Yourselves!" basically means nothing can kill your team. The total time is usually a bit over 2h, below 3h, (and doesn't count Mallyx, which takes another 20-30 mins or so for another 4 gems), but it's still fairly quick.

I expect if he stopped taking sub-par support characters (Mesmers like me!), a bit more time could get shaved off.

Sparda

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Netherlands

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14 Nov 2007 at 07:33 - 115

It's funny some of you just claim yeah i know some people with 60mil.
And many many stacks of ecto.
Sure after a good night sleep i thought yeah maybe some people are rich but some people are to rich.
And nobody can proof anything that they got there stuff by farming/grinding
Sure i have my fair share of money but it ain't more then 900k spent something yesterday did go down to 460k
I consider myself a scrooge if it's about money.

Steboy93

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Feb 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] | Ex-Officer [TAM]

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14 Nov 2007 at 07:45 - 116

I know it seems crazy that someplayer can have 60mil+ gold or 250 armbraces or whatever, but just think for a minute. Guild wars is only a game and having stacks of ecto+arms isn't gonna help them one bit in real life.
I really don't see why people moan about others being incredibly rich when you can get perfect items and nice skinned items for incredibly cheap amounts. And to be honest, what exact items are people buying wih their huge hoard of ectos? Think of the extremely rare minis and eternal blades as a reward for the players who have spent the last 2+ years hoarding gold and ecto, they give no real ingame benefit so lets just leave the rich to the rich shall we?

Nosferatu1976

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

Ascalon

Mo/N

14 Nov 2007 at 08:01 - 117

Hi i am the seller of the Eternal Blade. At first i did not wanted to post any comments to this Thread but now i will do. I want to explain how it is possible to have so much money and how it is possible that other do not believe that they earned this money legal. Take me for example... maybe i am one of the richest 10 GW gamers but that is not cause i am so good or cause i farm so lot.... no that is cause i am a hard power trader from hour one of Guild Wars and cause i spended over 10.000 hours on this game and cause i am trading whole the day. if you get a starting money about 200k which is easy to get you will be able to make in one week 1000k with trading. than you buy as cheap as you can ectos for 900 k and you have your first 200ectos and 100k. now you check wich items are selling good and which of em you can afford atm. From now its on you to buy the weapon or pets at the minimum price and sell for the maximum price that will take your time and i mean really much of your time. Selling the Eternal Blade takes about 50+ hours till now and not sold till this moment. If you are clever and act like this its possible to make 100-500 ectos profit each day and if you have enough ectos you have to buy yourself Ambraces. if you do this for many many month you will earn your 100+++ Ambraces and if you start to bid at very hot high end items with your XTREME hard earned money some guys like you will start flaming and... Not a big thing but that is how it works. Dont look negative to someone who is nearly online 24/7 he is working hard for the money and can be proud of it. And if some Items (which are maybe the only ones in the whole Game with 5 million active Gamers) are going in auctions or will be sold ingame or somewhere else... do you think they go for 100+5 ectos only that a hobby gamers can afford it... no it wont. It will be sold for the very very maximum prices that maybe can be afforded from 30-40 gamers of the 5 million comunity. Please rethink it and look from other perspectives at the whole thing maybe i was able to open your eyesBest Regards from.... a serious Gamer with 10.000+++ gaming hours and 12 chars......

undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

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14 Nov 2007 at 08:02 - 118

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steboy93

I know it seems crazy that someplayer can have 60mil+ gold or 250 armbraces or whatever, but just think for a minute. Guild wars is only a game and having stacks of ecto+arms isn't gonna help them one bit in real life.
I really don't see why people moan about others being incredibly rich when you can get perfect items and nice skinned items for incredibly cheap amounts. And to be honest, what exact items are people buying wih their huge hoard of ectos? Think of the extremely rare minis and eternal blades as a reward for the players who have spent the last 2+ years hoarding gold and ecto, they give no real ingame benefit so lets just leave the rich to the rich shall we?

we shall, for sure, i dont mind duped armbraces floating around in high ended market at all. however, think this way, if YOU ever want a rare item, and you have a decent amount money, YOU SIR cant have it, period, no matter how hard you earned your money, how much you have in your storage, you cant win in the competition of the Armbrace War, you just cant win

i am not whining, i have enough money that i can afford 99.9% of the in game items, and i know myself as a hardcore trader as well, but this whole eternal blade thing just sicks me that how left over armbraces can effect so much of the high end area. recall when very 1st STygian reaver dropped from halls, how much it went, that was very 1st one of the entire GW, 100k+400e-500e?very 2nd mini Ghostly Hero which was the very 1st one posted on guru, which i was the buyer, 305 ectos flat... too many example to list, these alll happens before DUPE.

jackie

/retired

Join Date: Dec 2005

On the Beach

14 Nov 2007 at 08:12 - 119

Personally it doesn't really comfort me much to see my offer from let say Mini Panda doubled by some smart ass duper, bid wars are helluva fun but in this case I'd rather rip the spine and make sushi sauce from the spinal fluids of the guy behind those armbraces.
High End market ain't very healthy in GW at the moment & hasn't been for a long time, imo.

undeadgun

Forge Runner

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Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞], also as guild leader

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14 Nov 2007 at 08:14 - 120

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Originally Posted by jackie

Personally it doesn't really comfort me much to see my offer from let say Mini Panda doubled by some smart ass duper, bid wars are helluva fun but in this case I'd rather rip the spine and make sushi sauce from the spinal fluids of the guy behind those armbraces.
High End market ain't very healthy in GW at the moment & hasn't been for a long time, imo.

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