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apocalypse_xx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/Me

15 Nov 2007 at 11:34 - 161

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

Wrong

It was never sold for that.

The winner of the sword was going to purchase the gold at the end of the week when his pay cheque cleared... So the people bidding never actually had the ecto required.

However, there was a mass bot ban shortly before.

Gold prices rocketed.

Trade never went through.

O and um, the two people in the bidding war were far from legit lool. Lots of fake bids too as my friends were doing them.

Please get your facts right...

Crystalline Swords R8 15>50 sold for 100k +1750 Ecto before and after that thread.

O, if the R8 15>50 Crystalline Sword is worth 3000 ecto. Then please tell me why a few months prior to the duping crap I was the highest current offer holder on one which was 100k +1750 ecto. Where is all those 3000 ecto offers???

In short, your wrong

Er, I think I know full well that people are capable of having legit stacks of ecto lol. What with me having ecto stacks and everything... I never disagreed that people could not have legit ecto stacks.

Please list all the legit trades where 1750+ ecto was traded pre-duping. I cannot think of any I doubt you would be able to tell what is legit and what isnt though as you didnt know that the main bidders on the R8 15>50 Crystalline Sword you mentioned use real life money to fund their GW purchases...

I apologize then...I guess I am really naive about people who were bidding on that sword. Sorry Herb

boxterduke

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

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15 Nov 2007 at 13:45 - 162

I just have to say thank god I'm not into those hot skins that cost 9 million ectos.

When DoA came out I wanted those tormented items but I waited and now with 100k_40 ectos, you can easily get them. I got me a colossal scimitar for 10k the other day, fully modded. Not bad huh, considering people got them for 100k+ectos before.

My only week point is armor, I just have to have all of the sets and that's not hard to farm for.

Now I'm saving up for FoW armor for my other chars and in 40 days I would have my Dervish and Rit armor with just casual 20k farming a day.

Power trading for me is really boring, I'd rather farm, at least I'm playing the game and not just standing there spamming.

So I guess my point is, leave and let be. It all depends on what kinda of person you are, if you can super farm and have many hours to play the game and can amass amounts of ectos then all power to you (I wish I have the time to do that). If you want the easy way and ebay your money or has duped it then you risk your account being banned, and I think at the end of the day you won't feel the great sense of achievement a legit player feels when clicking on a piece of FoW armor that took him/her quite some time to farm for.

My 2 cents, peace and safe travels in the world of Tyria all.

Tokar Terrius

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

England

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Mo/E

15 Nov 2007 at 19:42 - 163

How many of these replies have got something along the lines of...."Yes its easy....its powertrading!" I generate pretty much all of my income through so called "power trading"....and let me tell you something....its a mile away from being easy. And the profit you make is nowhere near what alot of people seem to think it is. At the low end theres no margin for decent profit and at the higher-end you're dealing with 90% traders anyway. Trading is harder than its ever been.

Cleavage

Worlds Hexiest Man

Join Date: Jun 2006

[TRDR]

15 Nov 2007 at 19:49 - 164

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokar Terrius

How many of these replies have got something along the lines of...."Yes its easy....its powertrading!" I generate pretty much all of my income through so called "power trading"....and let me tell you something....its a mile away from being easy. And the profit you make is nowhere near what alot of people seem to think it is. At the low end theres no margin for decent profit and at the higher-end you're dealing with 90% traders anyway. Trading is harder than its ever been.

Ding...Ding....Ding....You Sir are CORRECT. The days of the "Power Trader" are at an end.

Steboy93

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15 Nov 2007 at 20:31 - 165

Yep, it certainly looks that way...

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

15 Nov 2007 at 20:49 - 166

ArenaNet does not want players to be able to make money. They want to create an environment where the will remain rich, the poor can get all the formerly rare items they want, and the mid-range players can never become rich.

TheRaven

Desert Nomad

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Virginia

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15 Nov 2007 at 20:59 - 167

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

ArenaNet does not want players to be able to make money. They want to create an environment where the will remain rich, the poor can get all the formerly rare items they want, and the mid-range players can never become rich.

I disagree. Arenanet primarily wants an environment where wealth doesn't matter except on a superficial level. If I meet up with Herbalizer or Malice Black or any other "billionaire" level player in battle, I have just as much chance of winning that battle as they do. They haven't been able to use their wealth to buy a Fire Wand (Req 3), Fire Dmg 50-80 with an 80/80 sundering mod and that mini Panda walking along behind them won't suddenly jump on me and do -100 dmg to my Warrior. They may be wielding a very expensive Eternal Blade with a torment shield, but my cheap tribal axe and adamantine shield is equal to the task.

The only thing that will determine the winner in battle is a player's skill, not wealth, so on that level I really don't care if I'm wealthy or not. As long as I'm able to purchase what I need to complete missions and compete on a level footing in HA, I'm happy.

Coridan

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15 Nov 2007 at 21:08 - 168

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_...th_Duped_items

I posted this on Gaile's Wiki page...hopefully it won't be ignored. While i have to agree that peoples ELITE loot doesn't affect the game play....it's more about the abuse of the dupe...and that there are so many duped Armbraces still in circulation.... i have no problem competeting with people that are on equal footing...but not to be able to compete due to a cheat/hack/dupe what have you is a bad thing. I am not saying that everyone that is rich has duped items...but i am saying that if u have over 50+ armbraces and shit that you would most likely have duped armbraces...the people that took advantage of the dupe INDERECTLY by trading semi rare/rare items for extreme amounts of duped items is as much to blame as anyone else. They know who they are and its a shame.

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

15 Nov 2007 at 21:38 - 169

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRaven

I disagree. Arenanet primarily wants an environment where wealth doesn't matter except on a superficial level. If I meet up with Herbalizer or Malice Black or any other "billionaire" level player in battle, I have just as much chance of winning that battle as they do. They haven't been able to use their wealth to buy a Fire Wand (Req 3), Fire Dmg 50-80 with an 80/80 sundering mod and that mini Panda walking along behind them won't suddenly jump on me and do -100 dmg to my Warrior. They may be wielding a very expensive Eternal Blade with a torment shield, but my cheap tribal axe and adamantine shield is equal to the task.

The only thing that will determine the winner in battle is a player's skill, not wealth, so on that level I really don't care if I'm wealthy or not. As long as I'm able to purchase what I need to complete missions and compete on a level footing in HA, I'm happy.

And that's why I don't mind having "lower" cash

. I try maintaining 100k in storage because I -personally- like to be in a triple digit number, but I understand it's a pretty good standard if you think about what a casual player has (I'm not a casual player, but yeah... in-game fun > in-game money). I don't power-trade, I farm most of my money (and sell some drops to people). I guess I'm a semi-hardcore player... I don't do much PvP, I don't do a lot of high-end PvE... but I'm happy with what I have. Because equipment-wise and character stat-wise, my warrior, running 12 in axe mastery with a rq12 chaos axe does the same dmg. as that warrior's with the same stats, but a req9. And yet the req version goes lower.

TBH, this situation suits me. I sell req9 stuff for higher because of the demand, and can buy cheaper, equally effective equipment at a lower cost

.

Nosferatu1976

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

Ascalon

Mo/N

20 Nov 2007 at 12:36 - 170

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coridan

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_...th_Duped_items

I posted this on Gaile's Wiki page...hopefully it won't be ignored. While i have to agree that peoples ELITE loot doesn't affect the game play....it's more about the abuse of the dupe...and that there are so many duped Armbraces still in circulation.... i have no problem competeting with people that are on equal footing...but not to be able to compete due to a cheat/hack/dupe what have you is a bad thing. I am not saying that everyone that is rich has duped items...but i am saying that if u have over 50+ armbraces and shit that you would most likely have duped armbraces...the people that took advantage of the dupe INDERECTLY by trading semi rare/rare items for extreme amounts of duped items is as much to blame as anyone else. They know who they are and its a shame.

and you are 100% sure that they are all dupers, right?^^ read what Gaile answered you at wiki and think about it. if you work much and hard on it you will get rich in guild wars there is no other way. if you spend your time on the game and very much time on trading you get your ectos and in the next step you get your ambraces IN A LEGAL WAY.... stop telling here a duper there a duper... and one more duper.... if you think someone is a duper report him... but be prepared for consequences if you report someone as duper that isnt one.... dont waste your time on throwing dirt on others which are working hard as traders or farmers ingame.... use your time to honourable earn money and ambraces and ectos with trading or farming in guild wars...

undeadgun

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20 Nov 2007 at 12:55 - 171

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nosferatu1976

and you are 100% sure that they are all dupers, right?^^ read what Gaile answered you at wiki and think about it. if you work much and hard on it you will get rich in guild wars there is no other way. if you spend your time on the game and very much time on trading you get your ectos and in the next step you get your ambraces IN A LEGAL WAY.... stop telling here a duper there a duper... and one more duper.... if you think someone is a duper report him... but be prepared for consequences if you report someone as duper that isnt one.... dont waste your time on throwing dirt on others which are working hard as traders or farmers ingame.... use your time to honourable earn money and ambraces and ectos with trading or farming in guild wars...

you are totally misunderstand the point here, i am not saying there are DUPERS, i am saying there are Duped Armbraces still in the market.

Coridan

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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20 Nov 2007 at 17:02 - 172

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nosferatu1976

and you are 100% sure that they are all dupers, right?^^ read what Gaile answered you at wiki and think about it. if you work much and hard on it you will get rich in guild wars there is no other way. if you spend your time on the game and very much time on trading you get your ectos and in the next step you get your ambraces IN A LEGAL WAY.... stop telling here a duper there a duper... and one more duper.... if you think someone is a duper report him... but be prepared for consequences if you report someone as duper that isnt one.... dont waste your time on throwing dirt on others which are working hard as traders or farmers ingame.... use your time to honourable earn money and ambraces and ectos with trading or farming in guild wars...

I think you need to reread what i said there and look further down the discussion for clarification. I said that I didn't think all traders were dupers...i actually believe very few are...but i believe the majority of the armbraces in circulation in the High end tradering areas are DUPED armbraces..

take a look at trades before the dupe...very rarely was armbraces used as a "general" form of currency it was more rare the common...now take a look at the true high end trades going on today and tell me where those hunderds of armbraces are coming from? from DoA? I think not..i think they were traded for during the dupe and the DUPED ITEMS (IE Armbraces) where never taken out of the game therefor upsettting the trade balance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nosferatu1976

use your time to honourable earn money and ambraces and ectos with trading or farming in guild wars...

Don't talk to me about honor...i think it's very dishonorable what you did with the eternal sword. I understand by cheap and sale high...but to screw both the seller and the buyer...is not honorable. Just my personal opinion...and a mod can delete this out if they want. I lucked upon a guy selling a mini zhed ...dedicated...i bought for around 100k +15 ectos or so...told him if i make a large profit from reselling i would give him something for it....sold for 100 ectos or so...went back gave the guy half the profit...

EDIT: After looking at the thread below seems as if u just screwed the original seller and lied about the buy out price.

Burning Blade

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

Syag

20 Nov 2007 at 17:08 - 173

ok today I just checked the thread about Eternal Blade again to only realize something fishy here. According to this thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10219431 the Blade was sold for 100k+1250e+Vizu+200Ambraces to a guy named Zoren and he immediately tries to resell it for BO of 100k+1500e+90 Armbrace in this thread http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10220278, which is much lower than its cost. I smell BS here.

There are fake bidders and now there are even fake transactions I believe.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

20 Nov 2007 at 17:13 - 174

High End is full of such stuff.

They also have "friends" which will make fake bids to boost the price, that guy will then withdraw all bids when someone hits the price.

There is groups of people who will buy and sell stuff for each other just incase they get banned etc

Multiple accounts

Guildie bidding

Sibling bidding

The list goes on. It's a pit, no other way to describe it.

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

20 Nov 2007 at 17:15 - 175

good work, burning. this needs looking into.

D??esseBrighid

Academy Page

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20 Nov 2007 at 17:23 - 176

Quote:

Originally Posted by makosi

No they come from the UW end chests and [i think] the HoH reward chest. I only know of a req.13 and a req.9 in existence because both were featured in the High End section of the Ventari's Corner.

More will appear in the future.

A friend of mine got a req. 10 a couple weeks back and sold it for 1400 ectos. Insane.

Cleavage

Worlds Hexiest Man

Join Date: Jun 2006

[TRDR]

20 Nov 2007 at 18:38 - 177

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burning Blade

ok today I just checked the thread about Eternal Blade again to only realize something fishy here. According to this thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10219431 the Blade was sold for 100k+1250e+Vizu+200Ambraces to a guy named Zoren and he immediately tries to resell it for BO of 100k+1500e+90 Armbrace in this thread http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10220278, which is much lower than its cost. I smell BS here.

There are fake bidders and now there are even fake transactions I believe.

Ding Ding Ding Ding

I knew there was fake bidding going on that why I made my rediculous bid. Glad someone came along with a plasma blade thou :P

I did recieve a pm from new owner which definately leads me to believe this was a bid up hoax to try and succor someone.

Steboy93

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20 Nov 2007 at 18:46 - 178

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burning Blade

ok today I just checked the thread about Eternal Blade again to only realize something fishy here. According to this thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10219431 the Blade was sold for 100k+1250e+Vizu+200Ambraces to a guy named Zoren and he immediately tries to resell it for BO of 100k+1500e+90 Armbrace in this thread http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10220278, which is much lower than its cost. I smell BS here.

There are fake bidders and now there are even fake transactions I believe.

Nice work, I thought I could smell BS when i saw the price he apparently sold it for then the new b/o price from the buyer. And as for the guy with the c/o atm who more than quarupled the last bid...well that just seems extremely fishy to me...

TheRaven

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20 Nov 2007 at 20:16 - 179

Lol, this reminds me of the auction for the Red Iris Flower. It sold for 1 million plat I believe.

I Will Avenge You

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Me/N

22 Nov 2007 at 05:04 - 180

I don't understand how people who Q __ Q over some people being so rich in GW.

If they dupe, ebay, /nolife, or however tens or hundreds of millions of gold acquired, it's that person's business, if they have fun doing it so be it; if you want them found, let Anet do the /police.

~2cents

undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

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22 Nov 2007 at 05:21 - 181

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Will Avenge You

I don't understand how people who Q __ Q over some people being so rich in GW.

If they dupe, ebay, /nolife, or however tens or hundreds of millions of gold acquired, it's that person's business, if they have fun doing it so be it; if you want them found, let Anet do the /police.

~2cents

no, you are wrong. they can be rich, they can be insanely rich i dont care, but if they(dupers or players with duped armbraces) ever mess up with something that normally i can afford, i would get pretty pissed off.

Drop of Fear

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

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22 Nov 2007 at 06:34 - 182

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burning Blade

ok today I just checked the thread about Eternal Blade again to only realize something fishy here. According to this thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10219431 the Blade was sold for 100k+1250e+Vizu+200Ambraces to a guy named Zoren and he immediately tries to resell it for BO of 100k+1500e+90 Armbrace in this thread http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10220278, which is much lower than its cost. I smell BS here.

There are fake bidders and now there are even fake transactions I believe.

^^ i reported those 2 auctions to gaile last week for the same reasons, i was smelling duping at first but ye it's pretty clear what he did now
fake 200 armbrace bid trying make ppl accept that the price for a r9 is something like that, to find a real buyer then following auction.
sad try if u ask. i would ban the gw account aswell not just the guru one.

sickle of carnage

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

Textual Harassment [kTHX]

22 Nov 2007 at 06:41 - 183

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drop of Fear

^^ i reported those 2 auctions to gaile last week for the same reasons, i was smelling duping at first but ye it's pretty clear what he did now
fake 200 armbrace bid trying make ppl accept that the price for a r9 is something like that, to find a real buyer then following auction.
sad try if u ask. i would ban the gw account aswell not just the guru one.

I agree. If I could I'd ban all those fishy accounts which managed to outbid EVERYONE to make the item look more expensive...seems to me like they are all one person...

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

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22 Nov 2007 at 13:58 - 184

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparda

Just a last thing i know Anet banned the big dupers but i know that they missed
those who kept there mouth shut and did it without Anet noticed it.

Well if you see someone doing something they shouldnt, do /report and inform Anet. I have to admit I dont have a clue what this post is about, but i get the impression its about an exploit?

If so, then how is Anet meant to catch people unless they are either reported or stupid enough to brag about it or use ebay and make reference to GWs.

Im sure it is wrong and it shouldnt be happening, but Anet cant police every city and website and watch what we all do 24/7. Some people are bound to get through the net and its not Anet's fault for being under staffed and probably low on funds.

If you want these people to get caught then its down to the community as a hole to police what people do. Unless you want to give Anet a huge financial pay off to help employ more people to watch the servers and trading websites?

FrAnt1c??

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Belgium

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22 Nov 2007 at 14:03 - 185

I honestly believe there are people that are that rich, without ever duping anything... GW exists for over 2 years now, that is enough time to gather a nice amount of ectos and rare items. But since the duping thing a couple of months ago, you cant tell who duped, and who is legit, and that is just sad. I agree that the dupers should be punished, but not at the cost of players that got their panda's/crystalines/req7 items in an honest way...

~Frantic.

I D E L E T E D I

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22 Nov 2007 at 14:24 - 186

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrAnt1c²

I honestly believe there are people that are that rich, without ever duping anything... GW exists for over 2 years now, that is enough time to gather a nice amount of ectos and rare items. But since the duping thing a couple of months ago, you cant tell who duped, and who is legit, and that is just sad. I agree that the dupers should be punished, but not at the cost of players that got their panda's/crystalines/req7 items in an honest way...

~Frantic.

The weird thing tho is that these mega high auctions never happened before the Duping Incident.

Tarkin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

W/N

22 Nov 2007 at 15:10 - 187

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrAnt1c²

I honestly believe there are people that are that rich, without ever duping anything... GW exists for over 2 years now, that is enough time to gather a nice amount of ectos and rare items. But since the duping thing a couple of months ago, you cant tell who duped, and who is legit, and that is just sad. I agree that the dupers should be punished, but not at the cost of players that got their panda's/crystalines/req7 items in an honest way...

~Frantic.

I have a lot of money... and this money cost me a lot of time and i dont want to wast this money in useless stuff...

The point is... who have a lot of money from legal sources not stupid to buy overpriced stuff...

Everytime i see someone trying to sell something overpriced i laught because who have more 100k not stupid to buy something superoverpriced...

The time of 100k xxx ectos over... only few things cost more 100k... i have 30 rangers heros... 20 of them have dead bow 15 or 14^ 19/20 or 20/20 29/30 hp the others have + dazed stuff only from buying it from unden itens... i remember the time dead bows are 100k xx ectos...

You have more golds drops... you have good colectors to get nice weapows...
You have better rewards froms quests... good rewards from chests... have elona treasures from 100k each month... and the more important GW GOLD AGE ( and i not talking about money here...) finish...

Get money and stuff are a lot easyer... and stuff prices down a lot...

And about Eternal Blade its just someone trying to up price of a rare sword with a false bid only it...

P.S Eternal Blade worth only 500k to me...

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

22 Nov 2007 at 15:14 - 188

Quote:

Originally Posted by I D E L E T E D I

The weird thing tho is that these mega high auctions never happened before the Duping Incident.

Yeah.

There were peopel with tens of millions of gold. But those people could not afford to drop it all on one item. You only really saw people spending / offering all they had waaaay back in the day for like R8 15>50 Crystallines.

Now you see people offering like 5000 ecto as if its nothing to them for a mini pet or something...

And you knew who all the insanely rich people were e.g. akh, spil, nef, lgw etc. Now there are complete randoms and noobs with that kinda of wealth.

I D E L E T E D I

Wilds Pathfinder

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22 Nov 2007 at 15:47 - 189

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

Yeah.

There were peopel with tens of millions of gold. But those people could not afford to drop it all on one item. You only really saw people spending / offering all they had waaaay back in the day for like R8 15>50 Crystallines.

Now you see people offering like 5000 ecto as if its nothing to them for a mini pet or something...

And you knew who all the insanely rich people were e.g. akh, spil, nef, lgw etc. Now there are complete randoms and noobs with that kinda of wealth.

yeah thats what i meant, but i have trouble expressing myself properly in english xD

kobey

GW Retiree

Join Date: Nov 2005

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22 Nov 2007 at 16:15 - 190

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

Yeah.

There were peopel with tens of millions of gold. But those people could not afford to drop it all on one item. You only really saw people spending / offering all they had waaaay back in the day for like R8 15>50 Crystallines.

Now you see people offering like 5000 ecto as if its nothing to them for a mini pet or something...

And you knew who all the insanely rich people were e.g. akh, spil, nef, lgw etc. Now there are complete randoms and noobs with that kinda of wealth.

Agreed.

Before the duping incident, people who are rich are usually quite famous.

Now, we see random people bidding 100k + xxx ectos + xx armbrace every other day.

FrAnt1c??

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Belgium

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Mo/

22 Nov 2007 at 16:21 - 191

Quote:

Originally Posted by kobey

Agreed.

Before the duping incident, people who are rich are usually quite famous.

Now, we see random people bidding 100k + xxx ectos + xx armbrace every other day.

Yeah, thats what I meant, nowadays if you have a couple of stacks of ectos by trading/farming or whatever and want to buy an item, you get overpowered by those that might have gotten their money in an ''illegal'' manner...

Havok1610

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Ireland

None at the moment :(

22 Nov 2007 at 18:02 - 192

I've even noticed in the last while, the price of elite tomes has dropped drastically, due to farming. I recall Elite Necro tomes going for 15k upward, now you'd be lucky to sell at 5k

Drop of Fear

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

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22 Nov 2007 at 18:38 - 193

Quote:

Originally Posted by Havok1610

I've even noticed in the last while, the price of elite tomes has dropped drastically, due to farming. I recall Elite Necro tomes going for 15k upward, now you'd be lucky to sell at 5k

uh? i'm still selling tomes rather easily necro14k ele/monk/necro10k war/mesm/sin/rang7k... got the impression that elite tomes prices went up a little actualy

but ye agree. people that worked hard to earn few stacks of ectos wouldnt bid them all on something stupid like pets.
i mean, there are like 4-5 r8 15^50 crystallines that we know of, at least 2 we're sure have been customized... pandas/island guardian/vizu/shirokens.. dozen of these.

vdz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

22 Nov 2007 at 18:42 - 194

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...=Eternal+Blade

Now look at this one :

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...=Eternal+Blade

See anything suspicious here? Why would someone sell an item one day later for a HUGE loss. Are we getting rid of duplicated armbraces/ecto/gold here?!?

I mean seriously, am i the only one who find this VERY suspicious..
And why the hell is an admin backing him up, is there one big duplicating gang going on there?!?

*ups just found out that this was already posted in this thread, sorry. I was on to this the day he posted. I pmed the guy and told him that i was going to report his supspicious behaviour. But before i could even post on gwgru the no bid admin (400 ecto isnt a bid....whatever) banned me.*

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

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22 Nov 2007 at 20:25 - 195

People with 5000 ectos doesnt really surprise me, its the guys with 250+ ambraces that does.

The reason being its very easy to aquire ectos, you can simply buy them from the merch and players are always selling them. If a player started in 2005 and only ran one char, didnt buy anything over 100k, he could easily amass 1000ectos just by normal play. Now picture a farmer that picks up 5-10ecto a day, an easy thing to do.

What I don't get is how you find 250+ people that have an ambrace and are willing to sell it, within the first month they were availible. Even now after its been around for quite some time you won't find more than 1-2 people a day selling just a single ambrace, so how do you get 250+ in so short a time?

kobey

GW Retiree

Join Date: Nov 2005

Sg Unknown [KATE]

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23 Nov 2007 at 02:43 - 196

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

People with 5000 ectos doesnt really surprise me, its the guys with 250+ ambraces that does.

The reason being its very easy to aquire ectos, you can simply buy them from the merch and players are always selling them. If a player started in 2005 and only ran one char, didnt buy anything over 100k, he could easily amass 1000ectos just by normal play. Now picture a farmer that picks up 5-10ecto a day, an easy thing to do.

What I don't get is how you find 250+ people that have an ambrace and are willing to sell it, within the first month they were availible. Even now after its been around for quite some time you won't find more than 1-2 people a day selling just a single ambrace, so how do you get 250+ in so short a time?

By trading

Many high end items get inflated after the duping incident. If you purchase a panda for 300+ ectos in the past (i hope i did not remember the price wrongly) and resell it now, you will get the inflated 100k + 1500ectos + xxx armbrace.

However if you are questioning the why there are so many armbraces around: Duping

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

23 Nov 2007 at 03:44 - 197

Quote:

Originally Posted by kobey

By trading

Many high end items get inflated after the duping incident. If you purchase a panda for 300+ ectos in the past (i hope i did not remember the price wrongly) and resell it now, you will get the inflated 100k + 1500ectos + xxx armbrace.

However if you are questioning the why there are so many armbraces around: Duping

Pandas were like rly rly cheap back in the day. I remember turning one down for 100 ectos in like months ago. Thats only like thousands of thouasands ecto profit.... At least there is nothing to spend it on

Thorondor Port

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

British Columbia

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23 Nov 2007 at 04:00 - 198

By playing pvp i avoid all this pve garbage.
...im suprised people even ask for 100k in the trade still...

N E D M

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Officer's Club

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

24 Nov 2007 at 06:47 - 199

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdz

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...=Eternal+Blade

Now look at this one :

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...=Eternal+Blade

See anything suspicious here? Why would someone sell an item one day later for a HUGE loss. Are we getting rid of duplicated armbraces/ecto/gold here?!?

I mean seriously, am i the only one who find this VERY suspicious..
And why the hell is an admin backing him up, is there one big duplicating gang going on there?!?

*ups just found out that this was already posted in this thread, sorry. I was on to this the day he posted. I pmed the guy and told him that i was going to report his supspicious behaviour. But before i could even post on gwgru the no bid admin (400 ecto isnt a bid....whatever) banned me.*

400 ecto sounds like a bid to me
-reading that thread it seems the admin in question is banning anyone who bids on the item, and saying banned for non bid, when they all have obvious bids in their post... :S
maybe guru should take the initiative, and just eliminate high end and ban anyone trying to sell anything for over 100k
(since 100k was supposed to be the trade limit by design)
lol

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

24 Nov 2007 at 13:02 - 200

Quote:

Originally Posted by N E D M

400 ecto sounds like a bid to me
-reading that thread it seems the admin in question is banning anyone who bids on the item, and saying banned for non bid, when they all have obvious bids in their post... :S
maybe guru should take the initiative, and just eliminate high end and ban anyone trying to sell anything for over 100k
(since 100k was supposed to be the trade limit by design)
lol

I disagree.

Anet knew items would go higher than 100k.

Beta testing etc. would have shown them this. The ease with which gold could be made then making items with low drop rates,