Character Names

elektra_lucia

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

England

Leteci is [sexy]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamRunner
Really? So I can't go up to some random guy and swear at him? I think I could.
Missed the point. You're wrong too, A-Net could ban for that. Freedom of speech isn't what you think it is, you think it is this:
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You want freedom of speech but you don't want to hear the things that people hate? Err ok, that doesn't make much sense. Freedom of speech meaning everyone gets a chance to say their opinion, but but conflicts occur because difference of opinion?
Freedom of speech is about politics.
Quote:
The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. This sort of "reasoning" has the following pattern:

1. Person A has position X.
2. Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X).
3. Person B attacks position Y.
4. Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed.

This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself. One might as well expect an attack on a poor drawing of a person to hurt the person.

Fried Tech

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

[Yeti]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by yesitsrob
Pretty much getting banned for this kind of thing almost seems as silly as getting banned for bumping one of your Ventari's Sell threads 4 minutes early.

As far as Sega goes, what kind of non-italian speaker is going to know that is a curse word in that language? I actually learned this when Arsenal were sponsored by Sega and would actually have Dreamcast on their shirt when playing in the Champions League... I can't imagine a lot of people will know this, it doesn't warrent a ban, it warrents a warning.

I would recommend people stop being gestapo dipshits and not report offensive names, the name filter covers anything genuinely offensive, hell you can't even have "suck" in your name - if you are offended by Azz you should probably /wrist or at the very least get off the internet
Couldnt agree with you more. This report function will never be used by me. Im' not going to do the job that anets name filters are to crappy to do. If the name filter doesnt catch it then chances are that any negative meaning is going to be given by the reader. Not the actual definition of the word.... and that's what should matter. You can argue that Azz should be reported, but a name with SEGA in it? COMEON! I have 2 Sega's in my living room, and I play with them all the time.

And by the way. Anet. I find the word Yakslapper to be very offensive. Could you tell me how to report anet for offensive language?

elektra_lucia

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

England

Leteci is [sexy]

Mo/

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ass

What if you made a character Ass Zhed . He is kind of a horse, would that be offensive? We don't say 'Ass' in England and America is not the world, interesting indeed. If you say it quickly it might sound like arsed though.

Kusandaa

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fried Tech
You can argue that Azz should be reported, but a name with SEGA in it? COMEON! I have 2 Sega's in my living room, and I play with them all the time.
IIRC, from the previous posts, it's an offensive word in Italian. Don't know what would be the equivalent in English though.

(Totally off topic, but I wonder if the name affected sales in Italy?)

Keithark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Be Aggressive B E Aggressive [AGRO]

E/Me

Had a guildie banned for "Spear Chucker" WTF?? it is a paragon who throws spears for crying out loud??? Retard ban FTL

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kusandaa
IIRC, from the previous posts, it's an offensive word in Italian. Don't know what would be the equivalent in English though.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sega

The second one stops looking at her belly button as the center (or "centre" in British English ) of the world, one discovers the wonders of the world, its languages, its cultures, things that go beyond one's selfish opinion of what is and what should be.

There is a good reason for the measures that Anet is taking. You cannot have fun at the expense of others, even when you believe it is harmless. It may "just" be a word to you, but it may be something completely different to many other players.

ischuros

ischuros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ireland

N/Me

Has anyone pointed out that ass actually means donkey?
Yeah, it does mean arse now, and why has that got red dots underneath it, and Shakespeare does use word play in a Midsummer's Night Dream, when Nick Bottom transforms into a donkey.

OT:

It's a game, and he didn't even spell ass correctly, some people are seriously sheltered.

max gladius

max gladius

Yep, really is me...

Join Date: Aug 2005

My House

L33t

i just got temp ban for "I Stole Joras Cherry"... no idea, i like fruit... yet "Zhed Has A Big Xxxx" is fine.... yes it means wand... no i have no idea what anet is doing.... that is my 4th name violation now... one char was 28 months old at time "name found offensive" do they have nothing better to do now then dig up old dirt no one even care about anymore? how bout they focus on fixing the things ppl care about, and leave names alone...

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

max, do you need a reply or was that a rhetorical question (post)?

You KNOW that the staff at anet is only working on gw2 so the let the masses (input age derogative term here) do reporting now.....

we have mentioned before that putting guns in the hands of children is a bad thing---letting other players decide upon your characters names is also a bad thing.

max gladius

max gladius

Yep, really is me...

Join Date: Aug 2005

My House

L33t

we are letting others decide our names, i have written to ncsoft / anet about name violations i received, including my latest... their reply "we don't argue / have conversations about a character name. if someone reported it as offensive, then they must find it offensive, therefore you must change it." that my friends, is a load of crap! you cannot defend your actions? just as people are seeing / experiencing with the moving money between accounts, anet / ncsoft doesn't care to hear why, just take your ban and live with it, that is the support they are offering now...

guilty till proven innocent? with no defense aloud... so you are just found guilty on reasons of someone doesn't like you?

nechronius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Southern Cali

Herald of the Storm

W/R

You are complaining that a.net gave you a temporary ban for what is clearly a juvenile name? It couldn't be kiwi or orange or mango. You had to go with the one with the obvious sexual connotation. Your suspension was inevitable and you knew it.

Tachyon

Tachyon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Stoke, England

The Godless [GOD]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by nechronius
You are complaining that a.net gave you a temporary ban for what is clearly a juvenile name? It couldn't be kiwi or orange or mango. You had to go with the one with the obvious sexual connotation. Your suspension was inevitable and you knew it.
I'm sorry, but what the hell has cherry, or any other fruit for that matter, go to do with a sexual connotation? If anything, that's more a case of some over-sensitive pleb having an hyper-active dirty mind and finding offence in anything and everything.

max gladius

max gladius

Yep, really is me...

Join Date: Aug 2005

My House

L33t

hey, where in the EULA does it say i am responsible for what others think? nowhere exactly.... it doesnt say "put your mind in the gutter..." no it doesnt... you know there are many children / younger players who saw my cherry name, and had no idea it was dirty at all... that is my point... i am not responsible for what ppl have run threw their minds... my name was 100% not offensive... people take things the wrong way and i get in trouble...

well, Gaile Gray is offenive... Gale = loud / strong outburst, Gray = old... is the game for only loud old ppl.... well maybe that is why people stopped buying the game, cause they felt insulted by the spokes person for the game...

my point is anything and everything could be offensive, and since you cannot defend yourself, i would expect everyone to get some ban at some point... maybe i should log in now and just report everyone everywhere...

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by max gladius
just take your ban and live with it, that is the support they are offering now...
They are giving support, not to you but to the one offended by the name you chose. What's so essential about this name anyway? Is it more than 10% of the fun you take in the game? Can't you just find another one more appropriate? (please, stop invoking your "rights" and the "law", this is a game offered by Anet, not a state, they choose the policy and you're free to comply or leave)

I wonder if (it may not be your case) people complaining so fiercely about a ban because of an inappropriate name are annoyed or if they simply contest the principle. It's strange that people want the game to be so different from real life (it has to be, but only up to a certain point), no one would accept names like these in real life, would they? Who wants to call someone (virtual or not) "I hate boobs"?

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by max gladius
hey, where in the EULA does it say i am responsible for what others think? nowhere exactly.... it doesnt say "put your mind in the gutter..." no it doesnt... you know there are many children / younger players who saw my cherry name, and had no idea it was dirty at all... that is my point... i am not responsible for what ppl have run threw their minds... my name was 100% not offensive... people take things the wrong way and i get in trouble...
If you disagree with this decision and point the EULA, you should probably sue Anet!

You may not be responsible for how others perceive this name, but you should be responsible for understanding that the statement "my name was 100% not offensive" is plain wrong. It's like the above comment on "Sega", look at the link I provided.

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well, Gaile Gray is offenive... Gale = loud / strong outburst, Gray = old... is the game for only loud old ppl.... well maybe that is why people stopped buying the game, cause they felt insulted by the spokes person for the game...
You're looking for an excuse here. It's probably her name and herself (not an electronic avatar or a virtual character that can be deleted in a matter of seconds) that you're (almost) insulting.

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my point is anything and everything could be offensive, and since you cannot defend yourself, i would expect everyone to get some ban at some point... maybe i should log in now and just report everyone everywhere...
No, not everything can be offensive, for example proper names! It's quite amasing that you fail to understand this!

Prof Of Black

Prof Of Black

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

@ Sensation Black

Death is Energy [DIE] ~ Raining fame alliance

Would you get banned if your password contains bad words?

Thanks,

~Prof.

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Azagoth
Ia case of some over-sensitive pleb having an hyper-active dirty mind and finding offence in anything and everything.
Or you're an under-sensitive person who cares only about himself?

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Azagoth
I'm sorry, but what the hell has cherry, or any other fruit for that matter, go to do with a sexual connotation? If anything, that's more a case of some over-sensitive pleb having an hyper-active dirty mind and finding offence in anything and everything.
Sometimes I think people like this just don't "get it." If you are age 18-28 in the US, you OBVIOUSLY see the sexual connotation with that phrase.

MywayFtw

MywayFtw

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

Glob Of Ectospasm [GoE]

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prof Of Black
Would you get banned if your password contains bad words?

Thanks,

~Prof.
I doubt it, as your password should be 'private'.

Good question though.

nechronius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Southern Cali

Herald of the Storm

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Sometimes I think people like this just don't "get it." If you are age 18-28 in the US, you OBVIOUSLY see the sexual connotation with that phrase.
In Azagoth's defense, he is from the UK, and might not understand the sexual meaning of the term "I Stole Joras Cherry" as a name. But anybody living in the US not still being bottle fed would probably take bets on when a name like that will end up getting the user a suspension.

Tachyon

Tachyon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Stoke, England

The Godless [GOD]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Sometimes I think people like this just don't "get it." If you are age 18-28 in the US, you OBVIOUSLY see the sexual connotation with that phrase.
Well, I'm neither 18-28 nor am I from the US and as such don't have a clue what's offensive about the word "cherry"! So, does this mean that if I use the word, given that I'm based on Euro servers, I can get banned too? Or is it a case of ANet thinking that the entire World is encased within 50 States?

For instance, let's say I used the word "Cherry" in a name and get banned for it, is that fair considering I have absolutely no idea as how it can be construed as offensive? To me it's nothing more than a drupe!

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

[QUOTE]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Azagoth
Well, I'm neither 18-28 nor am I from the US and as such don't have a clue what's offensive about the word "cherry"!
here use google to see why.....40,000+ examples

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...22&btnG=Search

he was asking for it

Tachyon

Tachyon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Stoke, England

The Godless [GOD]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar

here use google to see why.....40,000+ examples

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...22&btnG=Search

he was asking for it
Sorry, but over here "Cherry" is nothing more than a drupe! In fact, it's about as offensive as a fluffy kitten bearing flowers!

Mac Sidewinder

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

First of all when in game does Jora have cherries that you would associate that term with her? It was meant to be sexual in nature.

Secondaly Gaile said it doesn't matter if its offensive or not in your language, if its offensive in someone else's language. You might not be aware of this at the time but when its brought to your attention the proper thing to do is change the name.

Buzzer

Buzzer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Australia

max gladius, that is 100% bs that you claim innocence over that name. You know exactly what it means. 4 name violations... that says it all. Stop flirting with the threshold and you won't get banned, simple as that.

Azagoth, you will not get banned for using the word 'cherry' unless it's in a specific, inappropriate context.

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

W/

I wonder if my character Atheist Dervish will get banned. If people can have names like 'I Love J E S U S,' then this should be allowed for sure.

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Azagoth
Sorry, but over here "Cherry" is nothing more than a drupe! In fact, it's about as offensive as a fluffy kitten bearing flowers!
No idea what a drupe is, but I know what a fruit is...

As for the popping / stealing cherry phrase, I left school over 20 years ago, I live in the UK and it was in common use even then. It's not restricted to the US.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

People are way too offended by sex. If max says his character humped Jora (even though, she probably done way before max came in (lol)) then I think it should be totally allowed.

Since you weren't the first one max you should have made the name.. I Poked Jora or Jora Got Done By Me.

Don't say it isn't proper either cause it is. I would like to see people everywhere doing the dosey doh.

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

I'm not offended by sex either, though I can't say as I much want people to starting going at it in front of me in the street. Personally I find the terms "poke" and "done" childish and disrespectful, but I'm not going to /report someone based on my subjective opinion of a term that doesn't stretch the word filter.

However it is disingenuous to make a name that is obviously designed to circumvent the word filter and then cry "why????" about it when it gets banned.

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by max gladius
if someone reported it as offensive, then they must find it offensive, therefore you must change it."
I find 'Gaile Gray' to be offensive, as 'Gaile' could be resembled to 'Hell' if you're dumb enough. I demand a name change.

If that's a stupid reason, Gaile, then so has probably a bunch of other bannings on names your team has done. I'm worried stupid people will report people just for the hell of it.

OI-812

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Somewhere between GW and Fchan on the nets

None

R/D

I was going to make a Paragon with a name directly referencing the Aasimar subrace from a certain roleplaying game mythos, but I was afraid of getting a slap on the wrist about copyright infringement or somesuch...

Para looked spot-on like an Aasimar though.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saraphim
I'm not offended by sex either, though I can't say as I much want people to starting going at it in front of me in the street. Personally I find the terms "poke" and "done" childish and disrespectful, but I'm not going to /report someone based on my subjective opinion of a term that doesn't stretch the word filter.

However it is disingenuous to make a name that is obviously designed to circumvent the word filter and then cry "why????" about it when it gets banned.
Yeah those words are but this game is a childish game made for children (obviously) and you can't use words like sex. Make love maybe, but that's kind of too big. Same with copulate/fornicate etc. I Fornicated With Jora might work but it sounds really odd.

C2K

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

I am offended by people who use the /report function, can we get a ban on that?

OI-812

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Somewhere between GW and Fchan on the nets

None

R/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by garethporlest18
Yeah those words are but this game is a childish game made for children (obviously) and you can't use words like sex. Make love maybe, but that's kind of too big. Same with copulate/fornicate etc. I Fornicated With Jora might work but it sounds really odd.
What about I Knocked Boots With Jora (would that fit?) or I Shagged Jora?

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by OI-812
What about I Knocked Boots With Jora (would that fit?) or I Shagged Jora?
Damn those are good! Shag, totally forgot about that one. People should get banned (or slapped) for not using that word, it's gold!

"Shall we shag now or shag later baby?" *smirk wink*

Kashrlyyk

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fried Tech
...
Could you tell me how to report anet for offensive language?
/signed I want to report Dupek!

mcsumo

mcsumo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

SOS

R/

One thing really bugs me about this whole 'workaround the filter' business. Every time somebody says 'WTF' or 'OMFG' in game we all know exactly what they are saying. So according to Anet's own rules they should all be banned.

DOH! No players left to move on to GW2, maybe I should get myself into LOTRO or WOW now. Anet seem determined to shoot themselves in the foot and alienate 90% of their player base, without whom their game wouldn't have reached the stage of rolling out to all these other countries,

OI-812

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Somewhere between GW and Fchan on the nets

None

R/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by mcsumo
One thing really bugs me about this whole 'workaround the filter' business. Every time somebody says 'WTF' or 'OMFG' in game we all know exactly what they are saying. So according to Anet's own rules they should all be banned.
Yes, but thankfully A.net's staff isn't a bunch of damn robots, and they understand players and give them some leeway on things like this. They're all internet users/gamers too, after all... and hypocrisy doesn't go over well with playerbases.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mcsumo
DOH! No players left to move on to GW2, maybe I should get myself into LOTRO
I can tell you from first-frickin'-hand experience that the folks at LotRO are incredible name-nazis and profanity-police. You think GW is bad? Hahaha, silly player.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mcsumo
Anet seem determined to shoot themselves in the foot and alienate 90% of their player base
Now THERE'S hyperbole if I ever heard it.

flipper

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2007

If you dont like the rules A-net made, dont play, it's that simple

MywayFtw

MywayFtw

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

Glob Of Ectospasm [GoE]

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by flipper
If you dont like the rules A-net made, dont play, it's that simple
We arent playing.

Why do you think we are on this forum, in this topic?