Healing Hands as a Wammo Elite
Turtle222
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Originally Posted by John Panda
their is only 1 reasons not to use healing hands as a tank elite
1.)Bad Recharge
personally my friend wouldnt let you join his FoW group unless you had his specific build the tank was a healing hands tank.. it worked well and could hold aggro better than the slow Obsidian tank. post up his version of a healing hands tank, and ill give you at least 2 builds that are better
1.)Bad Recharge
personally my friend wouldnt let you join his FoW group unless you had his specific build the tank was a healing hands tank.. it worked well and could hold aggro better than the slow Obsidian tank. post up his version of a healing hands tank, and ill give you at least 2 builds that are better
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Turtle222
post up his version of a healing hands tank, and ill give you at least 2 builds that are better
No need.
I've got one already.
[skill]sever artery[/skill][skill]power attack[/skill][skill]final thrust[/skill][skill]"watch yourself!"[/skill][skill]healing signet[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
A kitten to whoever gets it.
I've got one already.
[skill]sever artery[/skill][skill]power attack[/skill][skill]final thrust[/skill][skill]"watch yourself!"[/skill][skill]healing signet[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
A kitten to whoever gets it.
Ma Sanbao
Yes Stormlord, Koss is a pretty effective tank if you give him Mending with 0 points of Healing Prayers.
But seriously, Healing Hands is only great versus loads of little damage. The recharge time hurts it as well.
But seriously, Healing Hands is only great versus loads of little damage. The recharge time hurts it as well.
Ma Sanbao
Hooray! A fuzzy kitten!
As far as tanking goes: in general it's not such a great idea; as someone already said it's just a "black hole" in the party.
If you really want to run HH, no one's stopping you, but expect to see a lot of "[Player_Name] has left the game."
As far as tanking goes: in general it's not such a great idea; as someone already said it's just a "black hole" in the party.
If you really want to run HH, no one's stopping you, but expect to see a lot of "[Player_Name] has left the game."
Valeria
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I would really like to see a caster build that has more dps then a dslash warrior.
And what is a tank? For me it's the guy who stands in front of the team blocking the enemy and luring them together into one big mob. If you talk about THAT being bad you should start growing a brain. Smart luring and positioning of heroes is just another word for tanking...
A Tank who runs around with 0 offense and anly blocking and armor buffs is another matter.
Healing hands is no good because it will likely be removed very quickly by the enemy. If the enemy has no enchantment removal than you will get a full life bar for 10 seconds.
I wouldn't use it unless you want to solo something, take a monk with healing seed.Quote:
stuff like [skill]healing seed[/skill] and [skill]healing hands[/skill] is best if used on warriors because the have high al. On a monk or an assassin with 70al these skills dont work that good. if your warrior is taking more than 25 dmg from tiny wand attacks you're doing it wrong! on most attacks the healing will outnumber the damage you take.|
If you really want to run HH, no one's stopping you, but expect to see a lot of "[Player_Name] has left the game."
i have see a lot worse builds like a standard wammo. like monks with 12 healing 12 prot using rebirth in the middle of the combat and with mending too! Still W/Mo get all the hate(ok maybe all the sins as well)
Ma Sanbao
I have seen sins with Mending (to counter the degen of vampiric daggers, of course) and Healing Hands before...I don't know what people see in that.
Maybe viable if one has protspirit on...and their max health is 250? I'm not feeling it.
blue.rellik
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Originally Posted by Valeria
how about any nuker SS nekro or something like that? and don't froget something like blocking and blindness.
SS's DPS totally depends on who you cast it on. Cast in on a HM warrior then yes insane DPS, cast it on a NM ele then you're an idiot.
Crom The Pale
I was out capping skills today and grabed [skill]Healing Burst[/skill]
If you ran a melee heavy party would this be of any use on an adren war? Its a good heal for low cost and an adren war, even without and elite attack, can still dish out good fast dmg. Just an idea, personally I'll stick with war elites.
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
I was out capping skills today and grabed [skill]Healing Burst[/skill]
If you ran a melee heavy party would this be of any use on an adren war? Its a good heal for low cost and an adren war, even without and elite attack, can still dish out good fast dmg. Just an idea, personally I'll stick with war elites. I don't think I have to explain why that idea is bad.
Sab
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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
I was out capping skills today and grabed [skill]Healing Burst[/skill]
If you ran a melee heavy party would this be of any use on an adren war? Its a good heal for low cost and an adren war, even without and elite attack, can still dish out good fast dmg. Just an idea, personally I'll stick with war elites. I think it could work.
Keekles
The only monk elite I would put onto my warrior is probably [skill]Empathic Removal[/skill]. I used to use HH right after I capped it... stopped a few hours later after realizing that it really just sucked.
If I go w/mo in pve, it's for [skill]mending touch[/skill] or [skill]purge signet[/skill]. There are better elites to use on a war in pve. And for pvp... uh, yea. HH is bad...
A Leprechaun
I'd rather have a HH Wammo than the one I had to tell to change his build when PuGing a dungeon the other day, no attack skills and his elite was [skill]Mark of Protection[/skill].
Aaaarrrggghhh! Back on topic, its not an ideal elite on a warrior but as long as he has a half decent aggresive build behind it and knows how to play the game then I dont care. ~A Leprechaun~ BlueSS
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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
I was out capping skills today and grabed [skill]Healing Burst[/skill]
If you ran a melee heavy party would this be of any use on an adren war? Its a good heal for low cost and an adren war, even without and elite attack, can still dish out good fast dmg. Just an idea, personally I'll stick with war elites. Well, I can tell you that it does work. It is also fun to play
A Leprechaun
I think that skill could work (and as you have shown it does) but what was the rest of your build? Was it too amazing to share? Or too embarrassing to share? ^^
~A Leprechaun~
Valeria
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Maybe viable if one has protspirit on...and their max health is 250? I'm not feeling it.
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Protspirit reminds me of monks casting PS on the tank.... is so ridiculous!
How do they think i will take more than 10% dmg if i run around with 600-800hp?
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I dont think this would be good on a whammo... if you have lots of aggro HH or HS will give you much more healing. Only IF you really want to use monk self healing anyway|
SS's DPS totally depends on who you cast it on. Cast in on a HM warrior then yes insane DPS, cast it on a NM ele then you're an idiot.
sure but that is why you have a tank which is holding a big mob in one place so you can smash them with aoe spells. (too time consuming and not really worth it in normal mode areas though) PS: most fun i had while clearing the UW was running into the traps at twin serpent mountain with healing seed. I love having my screen full or red and white numbers.
Sandokap
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Originally Posted by John Panda
personally my friend wouldnt let you join his FoW group unless you had his specific build the tank was a healing hands tank.. it worked well and could hold aggro better than the slow Obsidian tank.
Your friend is bad. Very bad.
Cleared FoW lots of times without a single war. Aggro what?
Terraban
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Originally Posted by Sandokap
Your friend is bad. Very bad.
Cleared FoW lots of times without a single war. Aggro what? But the FoW is hurd. Youz be needin like 4 obsi tanks n like 3 bonders mkay? As for the screenshots trying to prove something....you could do both of them without any elite at all.
Sandokap
Lol, qft. ^^
isamu kurosawa
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Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Alright...you head on into slaver's exile and start taking on the 20 enemy mobs without a tank.
In normal situations sure, no need for a tank....i dont tank all the time either. But in situations where mobs are just way too overpowered to allow the melee to hit the casters, such as slaver's exile for instance, a tank is 99.9% necessary, even with smart teams. Not everyone has advanced title tracks for lux/kurz, and the high adren cost for SY! doesn't allow for any prevention of the initial spike from PvE enemies.  you where saying?
Bryant Again
^ You're in an oupost! It doesn't count!1! /sarcasm
That being said, I love the warriors in this game because they're in there to kill - and they're *damn* good at it. They *can* tank, but it's generally the filler way to play when you have nothing else to do and/or you suck. And no HH is not a good elite.
Dr Strangelove
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Originally Posted by Valeria
stuff like [skill]healing seed[/skill] and [skill]healing hands[/skill] these skills ...dont work that good.
Fixed that for you
Valeria
Oh how kind of you big THX
now try to use one of the skills once against traps or large mobs before posting 
A Leprechaun
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Originally Posted by Valeria
Oh how kind of you big THX
now try to use one of the skills once against traps or large mobs before posting
In PvE when do you run in traps, let alone enough to kill you? And you only get dangerously large mobs when you fail at pulling/aggro control.~A Leprechaun~
Sir Pandra Pierva
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Originally Posted by A Leprechaun
In PvE when do you run in traps, let alone enough to kill you? And you only get dangerously large mobs when you fail at pulling/aggro control.
or use Gwen as a hero ~A Leprechaun~ Added what you were missing. She is an aggro magnet even when flagged. And set to run like hell. So ya.
iridescentfyre
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Originally Posted by Valeria
i have see a lot worse builds like a standard wammo. like monks with 12 healing 12 prot using rebirth in the middle of the combat and with mending too! Still W/Mo get all the hate(ok maybe all the sins as well)
You're absolutely right. The difference is that a Monk using Mending and Rebirth in the middle of combat is comparatively rare. In contrast, a startling number of people are still running W/Mo with Healing Hands/Mending and think its a good build.. thus why it attracts all the hate.
Age
I use it for farming sometimes that is it.
Xue Fang
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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
I was out capping skills today and grabed [skill]Healing Burst[/skill]
If you ran a melee heavy party would this be of any use on an adren war? Its a good heal for low cost and an adren war, even without and elite attack, can still dish out good fast dmg. Just an idea, personally I'll stick with war elites. This is why people think that Wammos with FoW = eBayers, because they're just bad. You're a disgrace to the Warrior class.
Winterclaw
If you ask me, if you are going to use a healing elite, WoH or possibily LoD would be better options in PvE.
Age
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Originally Posted by Winterclaw
If you ask me, if you are going to use a healing elite, WoH or possibily LoD would be better options in PvE.
For a Monk yes a Warrior No.
majiger
instead of HH use Mark of Protection, yes the recharge is long, 45 loong sec, BUT when close to death it is a 10sec reversal of fortune, so if being hit for 40dmg and u got 10prot prayers, it will nulify the dmg +heal u for 42hp.
majiger
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Originally Posted by Xue Fang
This is why people think that Wammos with FoW = eBayers, because they're just bad.
You're a disgrace to the Warrior class. Umm what?? what does that have anyting to do with the healing burst comment, and using warrior elites?? O.o im confused
Crom The Pale
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Originally Posted by Xue Fang
This is why people think that Wammos with FoW = eBayers, because they're just bad.
You're a disgrace to the Warrior class. A: I have never and will never use Ebay. B: I earned my FoW before factions came out and did it the hard way, no 55monk to farm the ectos for me. C: Whats the bigger disgrace, a war that takes a cookie-cutter build and 7 live people and beats an easy elite mission, or the guy with a crap build and a pug that beats a hard elite mission. Player Skill trumps Skill Bar every time!
TGgold
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Originally Posted by krypt1200
Please post your opinions about a wammo using this skill to tank.
The problem is that you're bringing an elite with the intent to use it to tank, when you are capable of maintaining aggro, tanking, and dealing damage while using an offensive elite. If this were a solo game, it would be okay, but you have other team members available to support you.
Terraban
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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
A: I have never and will never use Ebay.
B: I earned my FoW before factions came out and did it the hard way, no 55monk to farm the ectos for me. C: Whats the bigger disgrace, a war that takes a cookie-cutter build and 7 live people and beats an easy elite mission, or the guy with a crap build and a pug that beats a hard elite mission. Player Skill trumps Skill Bar every time! What hard elite mission did the Healing Hands wammo finish?
Savio
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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
Player Skill trumps Skill Bar every time!
Players with skill bring good skill bars.
blue.rellik
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Originally Posted by Valeria
sure but that is why you have a tank which is holding a big mob in one place so you can smash them with aoe spells. (too time consuming and not really worth it in normal mode areas though)
PS: most fun i had while clearing the UW was running into the traps at twin serpent mountain with healing seed. I love having my screen full or red and white numbers. What does that have to do with Healing hands?
Valeria
healing hands and healing seed are not that different are they?
If you ask me, if you are going to use a healing elite, WoH or possibily LoD would be better options in PvE
I just wanted to state that there are many occasions where either of the two skills can heal you for 1000+ hp. So they don't deserve the "OMG NOOB!!!111 worst elite in the game" treatment. Quote: |
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And i rather disarm traps before the next noob ele runs into them to get his loot. (happened 3 times in a row and they still didn't get that the traps were killing them)
and it is great fun too!
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This is why people think that Wammos with FoW = eBayers, because they're just bad. You're a disgrace to the Warrior class. I lold at this one. I bet you never used any build that was not posted here and approved by the 1337 section of GW. You're a disgrace..... that really made my day
Savio
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Originally Posted by Valeria
So they don't deserve the "OMG NOOB!!!111 worst elite in the game" treatment.
Stop suggesting HH/HS on warriors, they're utter trash.
Valeria
I dont suggest to use it with your warrior is suggest to use it with your monk once in a while and put it ON your warrior. And thats not trash at all!
healing seed in a warrior skill bar is as bad as it gets.
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Valeria
I dont suggest to use it with your warrior is suggest to use it with your monk once in a while and put it ON your warrior. And thats not trash at all!
healing seed in a warrior skill bar is as bad as it gets. HH/HS are even worse on Monks. We've already got cluttered bars and decent elites - you think it's a good idea to waste precious skill slots on trash like HH/HS? No thanks. I'd rather run Cure Hex or Guardian in them slots. |