Healing Hands as a Wammo Elite

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Terraban
What hard elite mission did the Healing Hands wammo finish?
If you actually read my first post on this subject I told the OP that healing hands was ineffective. My responce was to the guy flamming me for asking a question about the effectiveness of Healing Burst in a party with 3+ melee chars.

Age

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
If you actually read my first post on this subject I told the OP that healing hands was ineffective. My responce was to the guy flamming me for asking a question about the effectiveness of Healing Burst in a party with 3+ melee chars. Why use an elite like when you don't have devine favour as there will be no bonus with HH it will heal when being attacked.

arcady

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Join Date: May 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Teutonic Paladin
How to Tank Slavers:
1. Find a warrior.
2. Put Protective Spirit on him.
3. Kill all the enemies. Typical Wammo:

M------x-----W
x= limit of caster range

Team chat:
W: You noob monk, heal now!
M: ...
M's screen: [click] Target is out of range.
[click] Target is out of range.
[click] Target is out of range.
W: Heal!
W: OMG! Noob Monk, they pwn'd me!
W: I have 60% DP!
M: Gee, I wonder why...
W has left the party
M's screen: W whispers, "You noob!"

M can cast Protective Spirit all she wants, if W can't stop acting like Wammo, it doesn't do any good. So W start's thinking:

W: "I need to make tank, only tanks can win this game."

isamu kurosawa

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Quote:
Originally Posted by arcady
Typical Wammo:

M------x-----W
x= limit of caster range

Team chat:
W: You noob monk, heal now!
M: ...
M's screen: [click] Target is out of range.
[click] Target is out of range.
[click] Target is out of range.
W: Heal!
W: OMG! Noob Monk, they pwn'd me!
W: I have 60% DP!
M: Gee, I wonder why...
W has left the party
M's screen: W whispers, "You noob!"

M can cast Protective Spirit all she wants, if W can't stop acting like Wammo, it doesn't do any good. So W start's thinking:

W: "I need to make tank, only tanks can win this game." Sounds about right to me, its idiots like this that made me crfeate my warrior in the first place. Now it's one of my most played classes because i enjoy playing to kill things rather than stand around like a fool.

Steboy93

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Lol, warriors with monk elites are shit. End of.


Warriors should stick to warrior elites in general PvE, I don't see how this isn't obvious to some.

Crom The Pale

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
Why use an elite like when you don't have devine favour as there will be no bonus with HH it will heal when being attacked.
Healing Burst is a group heal, in otherwords your buffing your party, something wars should be doing. I am not saying it is a good idea, but it does work for a war to bring a skill that can keep your front line alive.


X W W X

R E E R

M M


W = warriors
X = pets
E = elementals/mesmer/necro/rits(any nuker really)
R = Rangers
M = Monks.

With this set up you have a self sustaining front line that can deal damage and a secondary line, taking some hits from casters ect. that can be healed by the monks who wont have to run up and heal the defending wall.


I am not saying this is the best or most efficient pary build, just that it will work.

Yichi

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
I am not saying this is the best or most efficient pary build, just that it will work. Stapling my finger to the wall would work too if I needed to hold something on the wall for a period of time. It still doesn't mean that its not a retarded RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing idea.

A Leprechaun

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MistressYichi
Stapling my finger to the wall would work too if I needed to hold something on the wall for a period of time. It still doesn't mean that its not a retarded RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing idea. He can run what he likes in PvE, I like the sound of the idea, and as some guy already posted you can have whole groups of warriors without monks using this skill, there are much better things, but it does work.
If you don't like the idea, don't use it, end of.

~A Leprechaun~

Arkantos

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
Healing Burst is a group heal, in otherwords your buffing your party, something wars should be doing. I am not saying it is a good idea, but it does work for a war to bring a skill that can keep your front line alive. Warriors are supposed to deal damage, monks and paragons are supposed to be buffing your party.

But whatever. If you want to run it then go for it, it's PvE.

Savio

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by A Leprechaun
He can run what he likes in PvE He can run whatever he likes on his own time. But if someone posts a thread asking for advice, he shouldn't be giving bad suggestions. People are not asking for your "creative" and "fun" builds, people are asking for effectiveness. So stop suggesting crap.

Crom The Pale

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Warriors are supposed to deal damage, monks and paragons are supposed to be buffing your party.

But whatever. If you want to run it then go for it, it's PvE.

OH I see.....


So wars should never run [skill]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill] or [skill]"Shields Up!"[/skill] or [skill]Protector's Defense[/skill] or [skill]"Save Yourselves!"[/skill]

and here I was thinking these were good skills, oh what a noob I must be.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio
He can run whatever he likes on his own time. But if someone posts a thread asking for advice, he shouldn't be giving bad suggestions. People are not asking for your "creative" and "fun" builds, people are asking for effectiveness. So stop suggesting crap. People post to get all possible input on the question they asked.

Crap sugestions are from people telling others there is only one build you are permited to use in all of GW and if you don't run it then you should not bother playing the game.

It is a game, nothing more nothing less.

Savio

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
So wars should never run [skill]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill] or [skill]"Shields Up!"[/skill] or [skill]Protector's Defense[/skill] or [skill]"Save Yourselves!"[/skill]

and here I was thinking these were good skills, oh what a noob I must be.
The number of times you've suggested to use WY, SU, or SY are abysmally low, and the number of times you've suggested to use bad builds are abysmally high.

Also, Protector's Defense is crap.

Quote:
Crap sugestions are from people telling others that they should run random shit because it's "unique" and "fun" when they're asking for good builds. Fixed.

Arkantos

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
OH I see.....


So wars should never run [skill]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill] or [skill]"Shields Up!"[/skill] or [skill]Protector's Defense[/skill] or [skill]"Save Yourselves!"[/skill]

and here I was thinking these were good skills, oh what a noob I must be. Now see, theres quite a big difference between going /mo and speccing into a crap attribute line for monk skills that are bad on every class then speccing in tactics (which is somewhat useful) for the first 3 skills and speccing into nothing for godmode.

The Meth

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If you are a w/mo and carry any monk skills other then these: Succor, Mending touch, balthazar's spirit, purge signet, Judge's insight or a hard res, you better have a very good reason why when I ask. Otherwise, I will request you change it for a more effective warrior skill, if you don't then "There ain't enough room in this here group for the both of us".

Just because PvE can be beaten by a wammo with an empty skill bar and henchies does not mean you and the henchies are using good builds.

And tactic's warriors who don't have Watch Yourself! make me cry inside...

Age

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
Healing Burst is a group heal, in otherwords your buffing your party, something wars should be doing. I am not saying it is a good idea, but it does work for a war to bring a skill that can keep your front line alive.


X W W X

R E E R

M M


W = warriors
X = pets
E = elementals/mesmer/necro/rits(any nuker really)
R = Rangers
M = Monks.

With this set up you have a self sustaining front line that can deal damage and a secondary line, taking some hits from casters ect. that can be healed by the monks who wont have to run up and heal the defending wall.


I am not saying this is the best or most efficient pary build, just that it will work. Excuse me but Warriors can't heal that well unless you sacrifice(sp) what you have invested in tactics or weaponsmastery and with out DF it is just waste of a heal plain and simple.I wouldn't eve n use healing burst as a Monk as WoH is King of the elite healing elites.In otherwords you just wasted an SoC.

Crom The Pale

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I give up responding with intelligence to these flames...

I could post a build, a screen shot and demonstrate just how effective it is, but that wouldn't matter to most of you that believe you and you alone are the GOD of all players and anyone not running your approved builds just sucks.

So flame on, I'll keep playing and have fun vanquishing with ease while you keep screaming at 'noobs' in your PUG's about how its all thier falt your party got wiped.

Valeria

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yum

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
I give up responding with intelligence to these flames...

I could post a build, a screen shot and demonstrate just how effective it is, but that wouldn't matter to most of you that believe you and you alone are the GOD of all players and anyone not running your approved builds just sucks.

So flame on, I'll keep playing and have fun vanquishing with ease while you keep screaming at 'noobs' in your PUG's about how its all thier falt your party got wiped. You're right. PALADIN is god, I mean, just look at da name.

Seriously, if you guys cant see how great a PALADIn izz , you should quit GW.

I r last man standing!!!

Teutonic Paladin

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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I agree, I am god!

But seriously, Crom, you have no basis for any of your arguements. Good players can run bad builds, but there is no reason to. If you like running garbage, go ahead but don't expect people to be sympathetic. There is an enormous amount of evidence behind standard builds, that's why they are standard. When you use substandard builds, you will weaken yourself no matter what.

blue.rellik

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Well as long as you know what a bad build is and what a good build is then you should be excused. I run bad build sometimes sometimes for the challenge and because it's fun but I do run a 'good' build whenever I enter someplace serious

BlackSephir

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Thx crom, the next time someone asks why people don't want to pug, I can link to this thread.

runite ringleader

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HH is awesome, I use it everywhere, its even more useful when u have a minion master smiter monk in ur party that pretends to be a healer.

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

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Quote:
Originally Posted by runite ringleader
HH is awesome, I use it everywhere, its even more useful when u have a minion master smiter monk in ur party that pretends to be a healer. your right it is awesome, its the most effective means of removing dumb people from your party. Once they ping their skillbar, you see HH you kick...Ingenious!

ShadowsRequiem

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Phft we all know that a w/mo with infuse is waaayyy better then Healing hands

Turtle222

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Healing hands should not be on a skill bar. its like being a mesmer barrager - useless

Yukito Kunisaki

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Dang, I walk away and retire from GW for a mere 3 months to finish up other-life activities...

I come back after reading up on some other online rpgs [since you can't game, then read I suppose] and what do I find?

PEOPLE SAYING WARRIORS DON'T DO DAMAGE?!

DAMN do people not REALIZE that GW is the only Online RPG [yes i've done a LOT of reading from Ragnarok Online to WoW and beyond] that there is STILL NO RPG IN EXISTENCE where the Warrior is more useful for outright damage...

Don't tank, please, it's no fun... There's 999 other rpgs out there you can waste monthly fees on to tank and be a crash test dummy [that's what you are, you sit there in your chair and get smashed dur dur]

Guild Wars Warrior is about getting out there AND OWNING THE WURLD! Give me a noob warrior with a skill bar full of attacks only vs. a 'pro tank' who couldn't hurt me even if I was naked with no weapons/armor/shield...

Freakin' idiots...

Draginvry

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki
DAMN do people not REALIZE that GW is the only Online RPG [yes i've done a LOT of reading from Ragnarok Online to WoW and beyond] that there is STILL NO RPG IN EXISTENCE where the Warrior is more useful for outright damage... I have to agree with this. The only game I remember playing where a warrior felt this strong was Champions of Norrath: Realms of Everquest. With the exception of that game and this one, warriors barely even dink the monsters with their sword.

It's good to have a game where I can actually do some damage, rather than filling up my skill bar with something that increases my defense by 500% or some nonsense.

Yukito Kunisaki

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Draginvry
I have to agree with this. The only game I remember playing where a warrior felt this strong was Champions of Norrath: Realms of Everquest. With the exception of that game and this one, warriors barely even dink the monsters with their sword.

It's good to have a game where I can actually do some damage, rather than filling up my skill bar with something that increases my defense by 500% or some nonsense. Yay. Bless you Anet for giving us a melee class that doesn't SUCK for damage!