Mission Pack open access for ALL. NO WEAPONS

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

This is a thread as the title suggests.

Anet give us the Mission Pack at no cost. No Bonus.

Which means, you can play the missions. But you cannot get the weapons.

Weapons remain exclusive to those who qualified for the promo. Just like with Pre-order weapons, which are also promos.

neuaelr

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2007

I'd pay for it, it's bad business to just give it to us for free, they should at least re-offer it though, cause now there is useful stuff in the online store that i'd buy for 30 dolllars and so on.

WinterSnowblind

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Wouldn't giving away the same stuff away for free be even worse? Or is this really just about weapons? Like I said in the other topic, the bottom line is, you guys have new toys that you don't want others to play with.

I see no reason they shouldn't just put the FULL pack up in the store, for a small fee. You guys wanting to hoard the new skins to yourself, seem much worse than those who are jealous they can't use them.

/not signed.

Elentari

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

[Te]

W/

like other thread, had ur time to get it

/not signed

CHunterX

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

I'd really like to see a dedicated thread with solutions to the "BMP problem," rather than aruging on why people couldn't qualify for it.

Ship out boxes, CDs, and instruction manuals to those who bought EotN from the in-game store under the premise that purchasing from the in-game store would be the only way to access any part of the BMP. Areanet already made a bigger profit off in-game store users, and if they do end up selling it via the in-game store, which so many non-qualifiers suggest, it would result in an even bigger profit. They already have our home addresses (from purchasing in the in-game store), and they'll have the money to be able to afford to ship these boxes out (the boxes have already been made).

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

I'm for this or something like this. I preorder GW:EN but because I didn't use their store (which has had occasional problems), no BMP.

sykoone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mystical Chaos

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHunterX
Ship out boxes, CDs, and instruction manuals to those who bought EotN from the in-game store under the premise that purchasing from the in-game store would be the only way to access any part of the BMP. Areanet already made a bigger profit off in-game store users, and if they do end up selling it via the in-game store, which so many non-qualifiers suggest, it would result in an even bigger profit. They already have our home addresses (from purchasing in the in-game store), and they'll have the money to be able to afford to ship these boxes out (the boxes have already been made).
This would be a logistics nightmare. It's a a whole lot easier for the manufacturer of the physical product to make up a handful of large shipping containers to go to the big-box warehouses than it is to ship one box at a time to possibly thousands of individual customers. Imagine the time it would take to cull the database for customers who bought GWEN, confirm the address, pack and ship the item. More time = more money. It could very easily eat away the profits made from purchasing direct.

Traveller

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHunterX
Ship out boxes, CDs, and instruction manuals to those who bought EotN from the in-game store under the premise that purchasing from the in-game store would be the only way to access any part of the BMP.
I don't see where you would have this idea. Buying EoTN from the online store was definately the easiest way to meet the quota, so to speak. But like mentioned before, people have bought GOTY, or several extra character slots to meet the requirement. You told me in the other topic (or was it Lyra?) that I made a choice when I decided to get EoTN from retail store, but isn't getting the online version a similar choice?

Buying the BMP from the online store comes totally separately after this - and you guys who did use the limited time offer still come on top, since you got EoTN and BMP for one purchase whereas some people would have to pay twice.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

this is alot better than the "buy online" one.
/signed
no weapons for the guys who didnt go for online store is ftw.

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHunterX
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Ship out boxes, CDs, and instruction manuals to those who bought EotN from the in-game store under the premise that purchasing from the in-game store would be the only way to access any part of the BMP. Areanet already made a bigger profit off in-game store users, and if they do end up selling it via the in-game store, which so many non-qualifiers suggest, it would result in an even bigger profit. They already have our home addresses (from purchasing in the in-game store), and they'll have the money to be able to afford to ship these boxes out (the boxes have already been made).
this one is best for if the BMP goes onto the online store

either this or bring back the collectors editions imo.

AW Lore

AW Lore

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

Ancient Warriors Gaming Clan

W/Mo

for free to all? not signed.

available through some other promotion of spending money in the online game store for another $29.95 somewhere next year? /signed

Jongo River

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Someone suggested in one of the several threads on this subject to open it during festivals (sorry I forget who). I think that was a great idea. I'm unsure about "No Weapons", though. Maybe a limit of 1 per toon each time the missions are opened to all?

My personal preference would be to just sell the pack, but I'm still going to say /signed for this thread, because any solution to open the pack to all players would be welcome.

Traveller

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

Me/

Nah, it has to be the whole BMP or nothing. There's no point whatsoever to sell just the weapons or just the missions.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Traveller
Nah, it has to be the whole BMP or nothing. There's no point whatsoever to sell just the weapons or just the missions.
in other words you only want the weapons - i thought the bonus mission pack was for the missions.says some people

Traveller

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

Me/

I would prefer the whole package, but yes, weapons are the main attraction. I thought that was clear to everyone?

milan

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

BONE

N/

You had your chance, don't give me bull about not being able to use any payment method. Every country in Europe have pre paid credit cards available to them, as does the US, Canada and Australia.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Traveller
I would prefer the whole package, but yes, weapons are the main attraction. I thought that was clear to everyone?
those who only want it for the weapon are not deserving of the BMP
the BMP after this update if put in online store should only contain the actual missions

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

/signed

This is a GREAT idea. If Anet is thinking of doing that, they should announce it right away (it'd calm down some people, though not immediatly). If not, seriously think about it.

Traveller

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by tyla salanari
those who only want it for the weapon are not deserving of the BMP
the BMP after this update if put in online store should only contain the actual missions
So, in other words, you would decide based on spite?

In the whole BMP discussion I haven't quite grasped this strange attitude of some of the people who have it are making towards those of us who don't and would simply like another method to acquire it.

I guess it all comes down to perspective. I have some of the things people who have played longer than others might have. Mini-pets, special dances, special hand animations. Should they sell these things in the online store, I would still continue to have 'em.

I would have the option to think "This is an outrage, I've played longer and paid more than those n00bs, how can A-Net put them on the same level as me" and I could also think "Cool, now they can enjoy the glowing hands as well".

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by tyla salanari
those who only want it for the weapon are not deserving of the BMP
the BMP after this update if put in online store should only contain the actual missions
exactly.

Gaile mentioned that they had much work put into this as a special effort.

it might as well be a weapons pack otherwise.

thought for the curling of hair.

think of how many over the top threads there would be if the weapons could be sold for 100k plus ectos?

Jongo River

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by tyla salanari
those who only want it for the weapon are not deserving of the BMP
the BMP after this update if put in online store should only contain the actual missions
So long as they don't get what they want, you're happy, eh?

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Traveller
So, in other words, you would decide based on spite?

In the whole BMP discussion I haven't quite grasped this strange attitude of some of the people who have it are making towards those of us who don't and would simply like another method to acquire it.

I guess it all comes down to perspective. I have some of the things people who have played longer than others might have. Mini-pets, special dances, special hand animations. Should they sell these things in the online store, I would still continue to have 'em.

I would have the option to think "This is an outrage, I've played longer and paid more than those n00bs, how can A-Net put them on the same level as me" and I could also think "Cool, now they can enjoy the glowing hands as well".
i dont have proph CE - because i started playing too late.
and the BMP weapons are also an added bonus - potentially if you got the bonus AFTER limitations,you dont get it.

leave the weapons for the people who qualified.
we didnt get the casing and some people like to have a complete guildwars collection of stuff.

if they let the weapons on people who didnt qualify - it would also make a QQ thread again.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jongo River
So long as they don't get what they want, you're happy, eh?
yeah - and vice versa,i want the casing for it too,did i get it?
no.
am i QQing over it?
seemingly because you're bringing up the argument against it

Jongo River

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
think of how many over the top threads there would be if the weapons could be sold for 100k plus ectos?
It is a weapons pack - the best weapons pack ever!

Actually, I've been wondering why there isn't another "they killed the economy" thread. They may not be tradeable, but I don't see many of us BMP owners *buying* weapons anymore.

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

the weapons are the motivation.

also, you missed your chance, youll be over it in a week.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by street peddler
the weapons are the motivation.

also, you missed your chance, youll be over it in a week.
yeah - very soon itll lose its spark

Traveller

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by tyla salanari
if they let the weapons on people who didnt qualify - it would also make a QQ thread again.
That is, unfortunately, the way (GW) univers rolls. But there has to be room for discussion over certain topics, because every differing comment can't be labeled simply as "QQ'in" (gawd, I hate that term).

Quote:
Originally Posted by street_peddler
also, you missed your chance, youll be over it in a week.
This has never been a really big issue for me. I already have so much stuff I don't know where to stuff it. This is a fun discussion, and I haven't spent this much time on GWG forums in a long time. I'm actually anxious to see what happens next.

Silly Warrior

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

It does make sense, Anet gains nothing and loses nothing from simply allowing everyone to play in the bonus missions.

Then again, the BMP was intended as a BONUS for those who bought 30$ worth of products from their online store. So I feel as a customer, I deserve the BMP, and not those who haven't bought anything from the company in years.

With that said, I don't have an opinion on this, whatever Anet feels is right for their company they should do.

iriyabran

iriyabran

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

[Lord]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Traveller
I'm actually anxious to see what happens next.
maybe we should ragequit and easе their servers

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silly Warrior
It does make sense, Anet gains nothing and loses nothing from simply allowing everyone to play in the bonus missions.
Technically, they demotivate people from participating in further similar promotions (why preodrer or take part in promotion when qq will help out). Which would cut down their profits (since they not only sell stuff in online store for much more than stone shops, they don't have to share profit with retilers.)

Still, something similar happened with material storage.

Making BMP free, but without weapons for late commer is agreeable to most of people. People wanting to eperience those stories should get their chance, people wating just weapons get no sympathy. Missions are unique, but game has tons of weapons already.

Abnaxus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Keepers of Chaos

To all those who have this pack and don't want others to be able to buy:

GO HOME

PLAY THE GAME

ENJOY

DONT' BREAK THE BALLS TO THOSE WHO WANT TO BUY

Abnaxus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Keepers of Chaos

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
This is a thread as the title suggests.
Anet give us the Mission Pack at no cost. No Bonus.
Which means, you can play the missions. But you cannot get the weapons.
Weapons remain exclusive to those who qualified for the promo. Just like with Pre-order weapons, which are also promos.
Lyra _song, instead of wasting your time opening threads withs the sole purpose to provoke people, why don't you follow my suggestion?

GO HOME
PLAY THE GAME
ENJOY
DONT' BREAK THE BALLS TO THOSE WHO WANT TO BUY

Is the BMP so short you have already completed everything? Sry for you.

In case you haven't finished it yet

GO HOME
PLAY THE GAME
ENJOY
DONT' BREAK THE BALLS TO THOSE WHO WANT TO BUY

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

I don't care about the rewards.

ONLY the final cutscene between Joko and Ossa makes the whole pack worth it.

They advertised it.
They say what it would include.
They set a really wide period to get it.
There are pre-paid credits cards for those that do not have one or are not over 18yo in all countries where GW is available in stores.

Allowing further acquisition of the Bonus pack would be like allowing to acquire again preorder or collector stuff.

I Phoenix I

I Phoenix I

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Elite Lords of Chaos [LoC]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
I don't care about the rewards.

ONLY the final cutscene between Joko and Ossa makes the whole pack worth it.

They advertised it.
They say what it would include.
They set a really wide period to get it.
There are pre-paid credits cards for those that do not have one or are not over 18yo in all countries where GW is available in stores.

Allowing further acquisition of the Bonus pack would be like allowing to acquire again preorder or collector stuff.
QFT

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Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abnaxus
Lyra _song, instead of wasting your time opening threads withs the sole purpose to provoke people, why don't you follow my suggestion?

GO HOME
PLAY THE GAME
ENJOY
DONT' BREAK THE BALLS TO THOSE WHO WANT TO BUY

Is the BMP so short you have already completed everything? Sry for you.

In case you haven't finished it yet

GO HOME
PLAY THE GAME
ENJOY
DONT' BREAK THE BALLS TO THOSE WHO WANT TO BUY
Yeah but those who bought GW:EN online dont get the casing for it.
We took BMP>casing you took casing>BMP
there are only extremely few valid reasons why you DIDNT get it.
but i /agree - as long as there isnt any weapons and this costs about 5$

Gaia_Hunter

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

I have the bmp.
I wouldnt mind to get all of the bonus weapons or dances for a fee, like the millions edition weapons.
I dont mind they sell or make the bmp offering again.

Bowstring Badass

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

Along with the QQ threads I will go with my usual /notsigned...

Biostem

Biostem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

The whole purpose of the BMP is to encourage people to buy from the online store. If you don't buy from the online store, then you don't get the BMP.

Why does it have to be any more complicated than that? No one ever promised it for doing anything else - if you didn't take part in the promotion, then you missed out. Life goes on...

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Biostem
Life goes on...
i said that in the other forum like...almost every prepost until i started going all out offensive - word style!

ValaOfTheFens

ValaOfTheFens

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Warrior Nation[WN]

/not signed. This is an all or nothing issue.

Now that I know what the BMP missions are all about I'm happy I didn't pay for it. Yes, I'd like some Mursaat and Undead weapons but there's no other attraction to the bonus missions. If I didn't own NF or EoTN then it would great because the weapons are inscribable. But by making the weapons customized automatically it dropped any value they have to zero and virtually killed the replay value of the BMP.

I'll stick with my free additional content. I still haven't done SF, Urgoz's Warren, The Deep, or DoA and in the end I find that content to be better than the BMP. While I play GW for fun, I do have a bottomline and the BMP doesn't contribute to that at all.

gone

Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

LoL I'll sign yes just because I want to read all the threads about how the people that paid for BmP(via in-store purchases) got ripped off.