Anyone else remember (fondly,or not so fondly) back in the early days of Co-op pve. THK, Dunes, HP all the harder missions were a rite of passage. Finding and leading a good group was a art. (and some luck)
I doubt everyone would want to go back to that, but in GW2 it would seem pointless to be lvl 100+ if only Koss the 47th or Margid the Unbelieveablely Old was there to see it.
So do You think heros should be in GW2?
Should there be heros in GW2
Jeremy Untouchable
Shayne Hawke
I definitely remember those days of trying to find the right groups for THK and Hell's Precipice, and all of the other Ring of Fire missions, and Vizunah Square, and Arborstone, and Unwaking Waters...
I don't want to wait a year or more for heroes to be implemented into GW2.
I don't want to wait a year or more for heroes to be implemented into GW2.
Kityn
Don't really care. From what I have read you will beable to take 1 companion.
Isileth
Deffinately some sort of system for players who prefer to go with AI.
As it is a lot of people who use h/h never really pugged or (As is my case) purchased it with the intent to not PuG.
Supporting both grouping and solo players leads to more options for players and also the game appeals to a greater range of gamers.
GW attracted a lot of people by supporting solo play with AI.
As it is a lot of people who use h/h never really pugged or (As is my case) purchased it with the intent to not PuG.
Supporting both grouping and solo players leads to more options for players and also the game appeals to a greater range of gamers.
GW attracted a lot of people by supporting solo play with AI.
mage767
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Don't really care. From what I have read you will beable to take 1 companion.
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Alexandra-Sweet
I hope they will atleast force people to take atleast one other human player, like they have now with heroes.
Isileth
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Originally Posted by Alexandra-Sweet
I hope they will atleast force people to take atleast one other human player, like they have now with heroes.
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It would be very much like it is with GW now, if you removed h/h you wouldnt get those people who purchased it to play solo suddenly pugging. They would just quit.
Give people the option to play how they want.
nugzta
Yes Im going to see if I can still solo with henchies and heroes in GW2 or at least not dependent on other players. Im not gonna waste hours of LFG for every single mission, quest or other pve activities if the solo gaming removed in GW2, Id rather play other game.
Chris Blackstar
As much as I enjoy hero's, I would rather Anet invest in a split between PvP and PvE so skill modification to encourage new builds does not effect PvE in any way. The word Balance is over used like the word Love is.
Dev121
Who knows how the game will turn out, it could have a completley re-worked system, I heard something about being able to take one companion which could mean itll be like WoW in which case I wont be buying it because I'd rather shoot myself than player games like WoW.
Thunder Mancer
I'd prefer no heroes or "companions". I don't mind henchies, but limit them. Why even play an online game if you want to just sit there and play by yourself?
BlackSephir
If there will be no henchies and heroes I won't take PUG anyway. Instead I will try to solo the whole game and probably die trying.
Guild > Alliance > Heroes > Henchies > Solo > PUG
But guild and alliance is for pvp, so...
Why do you have that retarded urge to tell others how to play? Do I tell you how to play? Cool, I don't think you have any right to tell ME how to play.
Guild > Alliance > Heroes > Henchies > Solo > PUG
But guild and alliance is for pvp, so...
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WinterSnowblind
Definitely. I play Guild Wars because it ISN'T designed like other online RPG's. I enjoy playing it co-operativly with friends, but I do not want to be forced to play with random people. The only reason I started playing Guild Wars again, after forgetting about it was because of Nightfall and the inclusion of heroes.
Guild Wars has always been advertised as a multi OR single player game. And while I don't mind most of the changes they're making with GW2, losing the single player aspect would be something that would kill any interest I have in it.
Guild Wars has always been advertised as a multi OR single player game. And while I don't mind most of the changes they're making with GW2, losing the single player aspect would be something that would kill any interest I have in it.
Tyla
i only use pugs when i want a laugh.
or for pvp
or for pvp
Havok1610
I'd like to see a sort of matchmaking system, like in PVP, where you just press enter mission, and it assigns you with a team if your unable to find a party.
Your Lucky I Heal
well i want heros, i remeber when 3 of my friends were in urgozes, we beat it with heros. (t took like 7 hours) but also the main reason why i want heros is for the exploring, i mean than atleast youll know what your heros are doing.
Kahlindra
I'd like them for quiet times, so I'm a definite yes, but I'd also like more dynamic options/better ways of teaming so it's not just 'group with the horrors of the internet or play alone'. I'm sure they're working on it.
DarkWasp
Yeah I REALLY like the idea they got going now with 1 companion. As long as it can be a character or atleast customised like a character.
aapo
How to not make a poll:
1. Biased and childish answers
2. Showing names of those who voted.
FAIL!
And it has been announced that if there's heroes/henchmen/mercenaries they will be like in Diablo II, which is a good thing in my opinion.
1. Biased and childish answers
2. Showing names of those who voted.
FAIL!
And it has been announced that if there's heroes/henchmen/mercenaries they will be like in Diablo II, which is a good thing in my opinion.
Vinraith
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Don't really care. From what I have read you will beable to take 1 companion.
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The game will be soloable without AI, supposedly, and you'll be able to take one companion. Someone above said this sounds like NWN, and they're right. Incidentally, NWN (while a great platform for multiplayer gaming) was a completely worthless single player game, despite being soloable (it was just dull as dirt played that way). Anet is removing the party dynamic, and thus most of the diversity of game play, from the single player game. It's a shame, but fits an overall pattern.
Between this, persistent explorable areas, no level cap, changes to the skill system... meh, I don't even know why they're bothering to call it "Guild Wars" anymore. It's certainly not a game I'm interested in based on what's been said so far, just sounds like some crappy MMO.
Bryant Again
It's been stated that the whole game can be played solo, so there'd be no point.
Also stated that you can have one companion with you if you want.
Also stated that you can have one companion with you if you want.
Stockholm
The question should be. WILL THERE BE HEROS IN GW2, should makes it sound like we have a say about it.
Shakti
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I'd prefer no heroes or "companions". I don't mind henchies, but limit them. Why even play an online game if you want to just sit there and play by yourself?
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A pug would be rightly annoyed as hell. There are many other examples but you get the point. I love playing with my guildies and being social in towns etc, but there are times I really have to use h/h to avoid being an asshat afk leaver see? That's a freedom GW offers and I'd be very dissapointed if GW2 doesn't, as would many many others.
Vinraith
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Originally Posted by Thunder Mancer
Why even play an online game if you want to just sit there and play by yourself?
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I quit GW after a couple of months in '05 because of the sheer ridiculous difficulty of high end Prophecies with only henchmen. Nightfall brought me back to the game, and heroes convinced me to then go back and buy Factions and later EotN. Without heroes, Anet would never have seen a dime from me after Prophecies, and I can guarantee you I'm far from alone on that.
Saraphim
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As other people have said, it seems that likely from information released so far that we'll be able to take one 'companion'. If that is a hero-style companion, that's enough for me. However if that is the case they'll need to scale back the mobs from what we currently get to more traditional persistant MMO fare, ie; killable in groups of two or less. If not, they're going to exclude solo players completely unless they run some sort of duo-farming build. No thanks.
Not all 'solo' players are actually playing solo anyway. I don't pug, me and my hubby bought the games so we had something we could play together as a team, which is precisely how we play in WoW as well. I still talk to people in towns, socialise etc; but I don't pug and I don't partcularly want to be forced to either. I doubt I'd play at all if that were the case.
KvanCetre
I'd personally like it if it maxed out at one. Like the hirable mercs from Diablo 2 LOD(that you could equip with armor etc)
grottoftl
companions are going to be the new hero system and the game will be fully soloable as stated
the option of soloing HAS and WILL always be in mmo's since ultima online. there is not a damn thing anyone can do to change that. if you want to play with a group go ahead, if others want to solo let them
saying people should not solo because its online is flawed
the option of soloing HAS and WILL always be in mmo's since ultima online. there is not a damn thing anyone can do to change that. if you want to play with a group go ahead, if others want to solo let them
saying people should not solo because its online is flawed
Arkantos
I voted yes. I'd rather play with AI that have good skillbars, won't ragequit and act like an idiot then play with the horrible players of Guild Wars.
Guild Wars has always been a game where you can play with others or play solo with AI. Don't punish the people that don't want to play the game with others, because most of the others are bad. And please don't blame people being bad because nobody plays with them, there have been bad players since day 1.
Guild Wars has always been a game where you can play with others or play solo with AI. Don't punish the people that don't want to play the game with others, because most of the others are bad. And please don't blame people being bad because nobody plays with them, there have been bad players since day 1.
You can't see me
I enjoy my freedom to not rely on PuGs to get most things done in the game. I don't want to see it stripped, or be forced to group just because someone wants me to act social and fail at a mission 8 times before I get it done.
Arsalan
KInd of a biased first choice there isnt it 
Rexion
This is an online game... sitting in a city talking is not very online gaming. I can go to a chatroom on AIM if I wanted to sit and talk.
Heroes take away from the "online game" experience, making it just a "game".
Besides, heroes can be stupid and energy waste and I hate to heal them!
Heroes take away from the "online game" experience, making it just a "game".
Besides, heroes can be stupid and energy waste and I hate to heal them!
Arkantos
So you think just because this is an online game people should be forced to play with others? Also, I fail to see how heroes take away the online gaming experience. ANet aren't forcing you to play with all heroes, are they? No, they aren't. You want your online gaming experience, play with others. Let others experience the game how they want.
Rexion
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So you think just because this is an online game people should be forced to play with others? Also, I fail to see how heroes take away the online gaming experience. ANet aren't forcing you to play with all heroes, are they? No, they aren't. You want your online gaming experience, play with others. Let others experience the game how they want.
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Anyways. Keep henchies. Atleast with Henchies you don't have to play with people. Heroes made me play Nightfall all by myself all the way till the last 3 missions. I was getting tired of pressing heal and protect for the other 20 some missions that I had to put up with. I'm starting to encounter the same thing happening in GWEN. Exactly why I am playing other games; I'm just becoming terribley bored playing by myself while others do the same.
I paid for online, not to run around with stupid fat NPCs that waste all their energy in 10 seconds.
BlackSephir
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This is an online game... sitting in a city talking is not very online gaming. I can go to a chatroom on AIM if I wanted to sit and talk.
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Your word vs ANet's word? Not a fair fight.
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Rexion
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And many PUGs take away from the game "fun" making it just a "shit"
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so personally, I think your statement, in my eyes, is completely false. Especially since by the fact that about 25% of GW players think the point of a monk is to make the red bars go up.
Vinraith
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Exactly why I am playing other games; I'm just becoming terribley bored playing by myself while others do the same.
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Rexion
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So because the game is online, other people should be forced to play with you. You were picked last for kickball in grade school, weren't you? Find people that enjoy playing with you if you're so hellbent on playing with people. Leave those of us that like to solo alone. Take away heroes and we still won't play with selfish "my fun is more important than your fun" individuals like yourself, we'll just play something else.
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since when was I the last one picked for kickball? I was the one picking the teams.
since when was I choosing my fun over yours? you want fun, go Henchie it.
since when was this a "FLAME REXION FEST"? If you want one, i can definitly turn on my old trolling skills I picked up from my WoW days.
Arkantos
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I took that offensively with the pushy tone. :]
Anyways. Keep henchies. Atleast with Henchies you don't have to play with people. Heroes made me play Nightfall all by myself all the way till the last 3 missions. I was getting tired of pressing heal and protect for the other 20 some missions that I had to put up with. I'm starting to encounter the same thing happening in GWEN. Exactly why I am playing other games; I'm just becoming terribley bored playing by myself while others do the same. I paid for online, not to run around with stupid fat NPCs that waste all their energy in 10 seconds. |
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meeting people while attempting to reach a goal, that is fun. meeting people while laughing at someone that thinks their form of reaching a goal is good (when it really isn't), that is fun-ny. so personally, I think your statement, in my eyes, is completely false. Especially since by the fact that about 25% of GW players think the point of a monk is to make the red bars go up. |
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since when was I think only one that said "take away heroes". the poll says 28 others did, too. since when was I the last one picked for kickball? I was the one picking the teams. since when was I choosing my fun over yours? you want fun, go Henchie it. since when was this a "FLAME REXION FEST"? If you want one, i can definitly turn on my old trolling skills I picked up from my WoW days. |
It's an analogy.
You're basically saying because you don't like playing with heroes you want everyone else to not be able to play with them.
Nobody is flaming you. Go ahead and start trolling, see how long your post lasts.
wixter
Heros ruined the game IMO.
Arkantos
Care to explain how?