New Build Today Ursan Related

TechnoSword

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

International SuperStars

W/Mo

Ursun strike requires you to touch your target instead of distance, first thing I noticed :O not to bad though

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

It's not on wiki yet?Where's the whole update?

maraxusofk

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

International District [id多], In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP], LOL at [eF]

W/

Is it blind affected? please say it aint so.

Seraphic Divinity

Seraphic Divinity

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Heroes Ascent

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by maraxusofk
Is it blind affected? please say it aint so.
Touch=/=Melee

TechnoSword

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

International SuperStars

W/Mo

Im in a mallyx group right now and blind doesnt effect it by missing =D

Cargan

Cargan

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

Scotland

[ESP]

W/

um, are you using the ursan blessing you get in the quest "Blood Washes Blood"? That one is touch only and is different to the elite skill Ursan Blessing.

angmar_nite

angmar_nite

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

[SNOW] of [YUM]

E/

At least caster classes will have a harder time... MORE NERF PLZ! Really, I don't mind it half as much, but in my opinion only wars should be able to truly tank effectively with this skill by itself.

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

There's nothing in the update notes on the official site about skill changes.

TechnoSword

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

International SuperStars

W/Mo

It doesnt have to be mentioned, like I said I used Ursun Strike while in a mallyx group, It makes my character touch the person im targetting no longer distance

jammerpa

jammerpa

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Sunny FLA

Omega Knights

N/Me

I've just tested it out and ursan strike only works when you're right next to your target instead of being on the edge of the targets aggro bubble.

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

I guess Anet was hoping we wouldn't notice. LOL!

Cargan

Cargan

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

Scotland

[ESP]

W/

I'm guessing they've changed it to the way it was supposed to work to start with. How would a bear maul from range? :P Really didn't make much sense that the 2 versions of the skill worked differently, but either way is good. I may be biased as I always use melee weapons when using Ursan.

Now, if only they'd let Ursan Force break through walls/barriers...

trobinson97

trobinson97

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guildless :(

R/

That's not bad for UBers is it? Glad to see Anet didn't go overboard. Of course, there will still be the whiners who want it nerfed more, but ah well.

ume kurosaki

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

Looks like they fixed it. I was wondering why I could use Ursan Strike from a long distance with the elite skill compared to the Blood washes Blood variant.

truemyths

truemyths

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Great, just great... because of some complaining aNet takes out the nerf bat to Ursan Strike. And I don't complain much about nerf bats, but I'm ticked.

Folks like me (mesmer) and the rest will not be able to do Mallyx... back to cookie cutter builds for that.

You know, when they come with something cool, like this PVP only skill...

flame me if you like, but I know I'm not the only one... there's a lot of unhappy casual players (not just the farmers).

Grrrrrr......

snikerz

snikerz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rt/A

acceptable nerf imo, i guess it makes it convienient to get up close for ursan rage anyway

azzer20

azzer20

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

In Ballerup, Denmark

Me/

YAy they nerfed it? it was waaaaaaaay overpowered for PvE !

I play a mesmer and i always been able to join some for DoA , UW or FoW it's the people who needs an adjustment.


but FINALLY!

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Star Gazer

Star Gazer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Zerohour Enterprises [ZHE]

W/

amen. these god damn whiners qqing about how ub made doa obselete, really need to get over themselves. those comments were the same ones discriminating and preventing others from getting into groups. nice to hear that if i whine loud enough, i could get something too. lets see what we could whine about next.....how about luxon and kurz title tracks being too high?

Sujoy

Sujoy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

In Livia's Cleavage (.)ME(.)

The Early Monk Heals The Worm [EMHW]

Mo/

Never had problem playing with mesmers in high-end areas, just group with friends or guildies if ever necessary.

Never did UB, never will.

Terraban

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sujoy
Never had problem playing with mesmers in high-end areas, just group with friends or guildies if ever necessary.

Never did UB, never will.
It is a mind numbingly boring button mash fest.

I advise against trying it.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Two threads on this topic merged.

sagilltwins

sagilltwins

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2006

Your Mom's House

香港,poke, mad, BECK, nH

A/W

the nerf wasn't THAT bad.... still playable just not as spammable :/

kobey

kobey

GW Retiree

Join Date: Nov 2005

Sg Unknown [KATE]

W/

I have always been in touch range when ursaning. don't see how it affects me.

Cobalt

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

Anet lets QQing dictate way to many changes with this game, maybe they should let QQing develop GW2 that way we can get it over with at the start.

Terraban

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobalt
Anet lets QQing dictate way to many changes with this game, maybe they should let QQing develop GW2 that way we can get it over with at the start.
So...basically you are QQing about someone QQing? You get my vote.

Clarissa F

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Fighters of the Shiverpeaks

Me/Mo

Yeah. UB use goes in inverse proportion to your skill, and correlates neck-and-neck with your laziness.

People use it 1. Because they haven't the skill to get through the area, or they don't have the patience to wait for a time when enough friends/guildies/alliance members can get together to do it. 2. They just want to get in bad pugs and farm the snot out of an area.

Suck it up, Buttercups!

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by truemyths
Great, just great... because of some complaining aNet takes out the nerf bat to Ursan Strike. And I don't complain much about nerf bats, but I'm ticked.

Folks like me (mesmer) and the rest will not be able to do Mallyx... back to cookie cutter builds for that.

You know, when they come with something cool, like this PVP only skill...

flame me if you like, but I know I'm not the only one... there's a lot of unhappy casual players (not just the farmers).

Grrrrrr......
Wow.. People bitching because an incrediably overpowered skill is still overpowered, it just now makes sense (bear mauling from a distance... wha?).

UB is still really good and overpowered. Changing from ranged to touch isn't that big of a deal. Now you might need a speed boost consumable, but that's about it.

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

6 Tanks and Two monks, Ursanway. Gg. This changes nothing.

blackknight1337

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clarissa F
Yeah. UB use goes in inverse proportion to your skill, and correlates neck-and-neck with your laziness.
Very well said.

Ursan is still a ridiculous amount of armor ignoring damage, it simply cant be used at caster range anymore. IMO, making it armor-affected and/or toning the damage down a bit would have been an alternative, but at least now you have to get in melee range.

cliff notes:
anet tries a mild nerf for once. sure wish they would've tried that with LoD.
ursan still way overpowered.
all users go to guru and set up a QQ thread.
remains to be seen how long it will last till the flaming gets thread closed.

*waits to see line of QQers decend*

truemyths

truemyths

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

hah, as far as the button mashing and all that good stuff, maybe I'm just not doing it right. It seems like once you have any skills bar, well, it's just button mashing. Of course, it's all in the timing, which is the same for ursan.

As far as "not much change"... let's see AL 60 plus a bit in touch range... nope, that's a pretty big impact for casters who use this.

As far as normal game use, ursan with H/H is a fine complement but in no way the sole skill one would use to maximum effect. As a mesmer, I soften em up, go ursan, then switch back. I've got some hidden energy (via wpn switching), so I'm right back in action. But now, that sort of thing is out if I have to get in melee range.

strcpy

strcpy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by kobey
I have always been in touch range when ursaning. don't see how it affects me.
Me too, in fact I always found it irritating as the other main skill is centered around the caster. Never really understood why it was ranged to begin with and never really understood why so many people whined about it either. I always felt (and still do) that other PvE only skills are WAY more imbalanced than this (Pain Inverter anyone? It makes any situation where a monster would normally party wipe you dead with one skill and one cast - even at rank 1). Even then I don't want those skills nerfed either - they all take about the same amount of c-spacing your way to victory.

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

This isn't even a nerf, it's just making the skill make some sense. Why the hell would you be able to bear maul at range? The level of complaining about such a minor alteration implies the PvE community is even more cripplingly dependent on this ridiculous skill than I thought. By all means, nerf the stupid thing some more (nerf pain inverter while you're at it, actually), maybe people will think about what they put on their bar for a change.

The Meth

The Meth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/

I really question why they changed it this way. The ONLY possibly redeeming part of UB is that it allowed less popular classes get into pug groups. So anet nerfed that one benefit of letting mesmers, ritualists, ect into pugs while not doing anything to warriors/dervs/rangers using UB.

eeks

eeks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Sydney, Australia

Lubricated Volcano Love [Club]

Rt/Mo

Well, I guess it makes the other attack skill easier to use if one is spam happy and (before the 'nerf'), didn't care whether they had any foes adjacent to them or not.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinraith
This isn't even a nerf, it's just making the skill make some sense. Why the hell would you be able to bear maul at range? The level of complaining about such a minor alteration implies the PvE community is even more cripplingly dependent on this ridiculous skill than I thought. By all means, nerf the stupid thing some more (nerf pain inverter while you're at it, actually), maybe people will think about what they put on their bar for a change.
Yeah, the amount of QQing over such a minor change is... disturbing.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

One step in the right direction, at least.

Lagg

Lagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/

We traveled deep into the fires of The Foundry of Failed Creations, where Ursan Blessing was forged, the one place it could be destroyed.


— ArenaNet! Cast it into the fire! Destroy it!

— No.

— ArenaNeeet!


ArenaNet kept Ursan Blessing. It should have ended that day, but evil was allowed to endure.

ca_aok

ca_aok

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Xen of Onslaught

E/Me

You know, people DID play PvE in a time before UB existed. A staggering realization, I know... however it seems most of the QQers have forgotten this, especially since UB is still ridiculously overpowered even for a PvE skill. I fail to see how this change does anything except make the skill follow logic.

Shanaeri Rynale

Shanaeri Rynale

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

DVDF(Forums)

Me/N

Too little, too late. Touch Range does little to dent it's effectiveness

Metalmaster

Metalmaster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Guardians of the Stars

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sujoy
Never did UB, never will.
^^ QFT

Anet, please, nerf PvE skills more