Great, Anet forgot the Tourney Tokens.

TheGuildWarsPenguin

TheGuildWarsPenguin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Los Angeles, California

Picnic Pioneers

E/

Anet should have let people trade in 5/10 tourney tokens for a zaishen key.

I Phoenix I

I Phoenix I

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Elite Lords of Chaos [LoC]

R/

Hey, life's not fair. You just got to move on and deal with it.

I wouldn't be surprised if they did allow that to happen though.

snikerz

snikerz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rt/A

i'm not worried, i have about 4 stacks of tourney tokens collecting dust

but yes it would be cool if i could trade say 5 for a key.

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

W/

I think it would be fair, considering we took the time to stock up. I have over 600 tokens, I'm probably never going to be in the tournaments. Let me use them...

deluxe

deluxe

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Monkeyball Z

S.K.A.T. [Ban]

Mo/

hah, i just trashed a few stacks for more storage the other day, but yeah...

/signed!

MsMassacre

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Don't feel too bad, the just doesn't actually drop anything useful, just firewater and beetlejuice. Whee.

deluxe

deluxe

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Monkeyball Z

S.K.A.T. [Ban]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MsMassacre
Don't feel too bad, the just doesn't actually drop anything useful, just firewater and beetlejuice. Whee.
What is the reason of posting this? Did you just open it 2 times and got 2 creme, in that case: Stop talking please.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

WTB zaishen key 200g...stacks of tourney tokens would equate to stacks of keys in the hands of relatively few people. This would then equate to a disproportionate number of gold drops from the chest to those individuals. You PvP'd, you have your rewards...and this gives you some more. As i said in the other thread...let tokens be traded for non-key items.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0
WTB zaishen key 200g...stacks of tourney tokens would equate to stacks of keys in the hands of relatively few people. This would then equate to a disproportionate number of gold drops from the chest to those individuals. You PvP'd, you have your rewards...and this gives you some more. As i said in the other thread...let tokens be traded for non-key items.
You say this while at the same time advertising you buy keys for gold. This would then equate to a disproportionate number of gold drops from the chest to those people with larger amounts of gold.

Don't see why this change shouldn't be made, tokens have way too little use at the moment.

Ultra Mega

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

OCAU

Mo/Me

Aren't tournament tokens for tournaments?
Never saw Anet say anywhere to stock up on tournament tokens for rewards. I really don't understand why you would gets stacks and stacks of the things with no indication they would be used for anything but tournaments.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultra Mega
Aren't tournament tokens for tournaments?
Never saw Anet say anywhere to stock up on tournament tokens for rewards. I really don't understand why you would gets stacks and stacks of the things with no indication they would be used for anything but tournaments.
You can't do anything else with your faction.

Ultra Mega

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

OCAU

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
You can't do anything else with your faction.
You can let it just sit at max. It is what I did and my total faction earned still increases. I also don't have to waste storage space on tokens.
I thought it was pretty clear that tournament tokens were for entering tournaments and nothing else.

MoldyRiceFrenzy

MoldyRiceFrenzy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Santa Rosa, CA

Confusion in The Ranks[tArD]

Mo/W

im completely content with the general vic + balth faction for zaishen keys. I do however have 2-3 stacks of tourn tokens... but at least anet implemented a decent balth faction sink so im happy

maraxusofk

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

International District [id多], In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP], LOL at [eF]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
You say this while at the same time advertising you buy keys for gold. This would then equate to a disproportionate number of gold drops from the chest to those people with larger amounts of gold.
LOL can u say owned by logic?

its probably cuz he doesnt do serious pve and only has pve gold. but seriously, tournament toekns prob wont be implemented b/c of the abilty to use faction now, although i woudlnt mind if i can trade in tokens.

Melkorium

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Maybe if they allowed you to trade a tournament token back for 1000 faction. There's no real reason for them to lock Balt. Faction away in Tokens now that there's a use for it.

sagilltwins

sagilltwins

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2006

Your Mom's House

香港,poke, mad, BECK, nH

A/W

Anet: *wakes up* "OH SNAP"!

shadows of hob

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rocky (Dragon)Mountains

Mo/Me

Of course it should be possible to exchange 5 tokens for a key, just give it a few days.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

I agree, BUT .. it's NOT supposed to collect tokens in your inventory, you just buy one and use it.

Steboy93

Steboy93

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Feb 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] | Ex-Officer [TAM]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MsMassacre
Don't feel too bad, the just doesn't actually drop anything useful, just firewater and beetlejuice. Whee.
I got a req9 gold embossed aegis and a firewater

Anyone know what other kinds of golds are dropping?

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

Tournament tokens.
Used to enter tournaments.
See a link to zaishen chest?

Guildmaster Cain

Guildmaster Cain

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Guildmistress Eve [Me], Guildmistress Azura [N], Guildmistress Azumi [A], Guildmistress Jaina [D]

Guildmaster Aeron [Rt], Arthas Ironfist [W], Guild: The Tyrian Templars [TTT]

Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
Tournament tokens.
Used to enter tournaments.
See a link to zaishen chest?
1000 Balthazar faction > buy tournament token > play Tournament > gain 5000 Balthazar faction > buy 5 tournament tokens > play 5 Tournament > gain 25000 Balthazar faction > buy 25 Tournament tokens....>...>...>...> Character dies from the heavy burden of 999999999 Tournament tokens

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

Ok, don't flame me for this as I don't pvp, so this is a genuine question.

Are the PVP tournament tokens the same as the ones rewarded from the Xunlai Tournament House?

If so, then you can change them for keys. I had ten tokens left over from last months Xunlai awards, and I exchanged them for two Zaishen Keys this morning and opened the chest.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain
1000 Balthazar faction > buy tournament token > play Tournament > gain 5000 Balthazar faction > buy 5 tournament tokens > play 5 Tournament > gain 25000 Balthazar faction > buy 25 Tournament tokens....>...>...>...> Character dies from the heavy burden of 999999999 Tournament tokens
Not anymore because you exchange for keys now

IslandHermet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by snikerz
i'm not worried, i have about 4 stacks of tourney tokens collecting dust

but yes it would be cool if i could trade say 5 for a key.
Im with you on this.
would been cool but owell I will continue to let the tokens collect dust

IslandHermet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by MsMassacre
Don't feel too bad, the just doesn't actually drop anything useful, just firewater and beetlejuice. Whee.
LoL
The chest drops everything from all Golds in the GW world to sweets to tomes to booze to tonics and consumables.

Sir Scorn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

YES,

Please implement this. Our original sink was these tokens. It would be nice to unload some.

IslandHermet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultra Mega
Aren't tournament tokens for tournaments?
Never saw Anet say anywhere to stock up on tournament tokens for rewards. I really don't understand why you would gets stacks and stacks of the things with no indication they would be used for anything but tournaments.
THINK FIRST THEN POST.

We are UAX (Unlocked Everything) Only 1 use for balthazar faction at this point which is Tourney Tokens, Since Im a good player at PVP I gain to much faction to quick just to let it sit at my Faction cap I spend it on Tokens, Even useing the tokens as fast as I can I still earn Way to much Faction which makes me fill up my invintory with Tokens.

You dont understand because you do not earn faction at the rate of most GOOD PVP players.
Does that answer your newbie question?

Gargle Blaster

Gargle Blaster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

first let me say big thanks go out to the developers for adding a new use for faction. I hope tournament tokens could be exchanged for keys also at the expected rate of 5 per key. i have a good stash of tokens and i don't play in the tournaments...

thanks again,
-Gargle Blaster

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by IslandHermet
THINK FIRST THEN POST.

We are UAX (Unlocked Everything) Only 1 use for balthazar faction at this point which is Tourney Tokens, Since Im a good player at PVP I gain to much faction to quick just to let it sit at my Faction cap I spend it on Tokens, Even useing the tokens as fast as I can I still earn Way to much Faction which makes me fill up my invintory with Tokens.
Is there a penalty for allowing your faction to sit at cap?

Honestly, the amount of people who are saying "yeah I've got stacks of tokens sitting around" is baffling. Why did you buy them, if you had no intention of using them?

Selket

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Grand Court of Selket/Sebelkeh

What If You Had An Outpost Named After You [slkt]

W/

Why let your faction stay capped when you could have a lovely +20 popup every few seconds?

If you don't buy them, you were missing out on free stuff.

I stopped buying them because I ran out of inventory space and clicking buy token 100 times every time I hit max faction was pretty dumb.

Gargle Blaster

Gargle Blaster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
Is there a penalty for allowing your faction to sit at cap?

Honestly, the amount of people who are saying "yeah I've got stacks of tokens sitting around" is baffling. Why did you buy them, if you had no intention of using them?
you dont aquire faction when it is maxed. tokens were the only thing to spend faction on after UAX...

Chico

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultra Mega
Aren't tournament tokens for tournaments?
Never saw Anet say anywhere to stock up on tournament tokens for rewards. I really don't understand why you would gets stacks and stacks of the things with no indication they would be used for anything but tournaments.
Tokens are for tournaments? Yes, of course.
But you are ignoring the fact that tokens is the only thing we could get with our faction if we had already unlocked everything for a very long time. Now we have a way to empty our faction. All we are asking for is to let us trade that faction that we spent on tokens (when tokens where the only option) for keys.

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gargle Blaster
you dont aquire faction when it is maxed. tokens were the only thing to spend faction on after UAX...
But why did you feel compelled to spend it? Do you go out and blow your entire paycheck whenever you receive it?

You spent your 'paycheck' on things you didn't need, and now you're complaining that you can't get your money back. Sorry?

R.Shayne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

/Signed

I bought these tokens because I did not want to see faction just go down the drain, now what am I suppose to do with me.

Gargle Blaster

Gargle Blaster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
But why did you feel compelled to spend it? Do you go out and blow your entire paycheck whenever you receive it?

You spent your 'paycheck' on things you didn't need, and now you're complaining that you can't get your money back. Sorry?
your paycheck is not limited by a faction cap... you can also spend your money on more than one item.

And yes with most real life items you can get your money back, or at least exchange purchased items for items of the same value.

Hrmzia Thseus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

/varily signed

This only makes sense, I am hardcore pve player and don't even Pvp much and but I still have everything i need unlocked thanks to AB.
My balthazars faction cap limit is 10K thats it:P I do have a fair collection of tourney tokens.Thats like 3 games of AB to max it, the tourney tokens were the only way to spend it.

But heres the thing I know a guy who just has over a Million tournament tokens o.o

That would mean 200,000 keys, imagine what those keys can unleash on the market, all golds will be dirt cheap.

But please Anet let their be a way to get 1K balthazars faction back by exchanging a tournament token, its not fair to people with maxed out balthazars action who had no way to spend it cept using tourney tokens!

IslandHermet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
Is there a penalty for allowing your faction to sit at cap?

Honestly, the amount of people who are saying "yeah I've got stacks of tokens sitting around" is baffling. Why did you buy them, if you had no intention of using them?

yes a very large penalty YOU no longer Recieve Faction once you hit the cap.
That means when your total faction hits the cap and you have lets say 1.8mill balth faction and a faction cap of 26k If you continue to play PVP and not spend the 26k faction your Total balth faction will stay at 1.8 mill.

You learn something new every day Well this is not new at all but Here you go hope this explains it.
Honestly the amount of people who do not notice this is baffling

geminisaga

geminisaga

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/N

man explaining to pve ppl is priceless ^^

IslandHermet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
But why did you feel compelled to spend it? Do you go out and blow your entire paycheck whenever you receive it?

You spent your 'paycheck' on things you didn't need, and now you're complaining that you can't get your money back. Sorry?
Most High end PVP guilds require a set limit of your Balth faction or they will not invite you.

Recruting UAX, R3+,glad 2+,champ 1+, 2 mill balth faction minnium. PM for details.

IslandHermet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by geminisaga
man explaining to pve ppl is priceless ^^
I know they refuse to listen and learn